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karma_lives
October 24th, 2004, 11:35 PM
Title kind of gives it away but I want people's opinions.

Vamps..

Real
Fake
Other : Please Explain

Mab
October 24th, 2004, 11:38 PM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.

karma_lives
October 24th, 2004, 11:41 PM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.

Ditto! There *ARE* those people who (no offense to any of them if they're members or anything) that totally freak me out who get their teeth filed into 'fangs' and actually have the whole 'bite ya in the neck, suck some blood' sort of thing going on...

Aelfoak
October 25th, 2004, 03:25 AM
Its fake and all made up, but those vampire ladies are sexy http://www.mysticwicks.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Secrets Flame
October 25th, 2004, 04:01 AM
I have absolutely NO doubts that vampires, in the form of eternally damned, for all intents and purposes immortal, and drink people's blood are real, and "alive".

Infinite Grey
October 25th, 2004, 04:03 AM
I am sure they exist in some shape or form. The legend of a Vampires stretches across many independent cultures, as do Dragons, demons and werewolves. Each culture had its own names for such creatures but the similarities in are staggering. The earliest and most common similarities I found is that vampires were seen more as ghost than as but Hollywood would have as believe. A family member's ghost rises from the grave and preys on its own family.

It strikes me strange how so many cultures could have legends so similar without it being true to a degree.
:jawdrop:

WingedTigerChild
October 25th, 2004, 04:29 AM
I don't know about the stereotypical Hollywood vampire. I guess they could exist in one form or another, as someone else suggested. I don't want to say for sure -- I like to keep an open mind about things. (even if it seems wacky or just plain stupid). Anywho, there are psychic "vampires" (http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/v/vampire_the_psychic.html) and other "wannabe vampires" (http://www.vampire-church.com/) (or vampyres).

Valnorran
October 25th, 2004, 08:34 AM
I've heard tell of so-called psychic vampires, people who seem to drain those around them of all energy, apparently involuntarily. I've never experienced one but I could accept their existence. There are also those who engage in the whole blood drinking bit. But the undead creature of folklore? No. Totally fake.

IvyWitch
October 25th, 2004, 10:22 AM
Psychic vampires yeah. But I think the closest one can get to being like the vampire of stories are the people who play waaaaay too much Vampire: The Masquerade.

HolographicJoe
October 25th, 2004, 12:04 PM
I am sure they exist in some shape or form. The legend of a Vampires stretches across many independent cultures, as do Dragons, demons and werewolves. Each culture had its own names for such creatures but the similarities in are staggering. The earliest and most common similarities I found is that vampires were seen more as ghost than as but Hollywood would have as believe. A family member's ghost rises from the grave and preys on its own family.

It strikes me strange how so many cultures could have legends so similar without it being true to a degree.
:jawdrop:

Precisely. In addition, people with porphyria (it's an extremely rare disease) have all of the characteristics associted with vampires (except, of course, immortality): Pale skin, wasting resulting in claw-like nails and drawn skin - a deathly appearance, extreme photosensitivity, and a craving for blood. It's pretty weird. But Infinite Grey is right. He nbeat me to it. The stories of Vampires are too wide spread over both culture an time to be summarily dismissed.

_wiz_

Pilot
October 25th, 2004, 12:15 PM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.

Agreed!

However, there are historical vampires (that engaged in blood rituals and such) such as Dracula, The Blood Countess (I can't recall her name as of the moment).

There are also numerous cult followings that engage in mythical vampire activities.

But then again who really knows... :bat:

karma_lives
October 25th, 2004, 08:36 PM
I'm so excited! This is the most anyone has replied :yourock: ...which is actually kind of sad if you uthink about it..LoL But I agree with a lot of what you guys say. I believe in them to an extent because I mean, if you can believe in witches and magick and gods and goddess I don't see why vampires wouldn't also exsist..>shrug< :whatgives

WingedTigerChild
October 26th, 2004, 01:19 AM
Agreed!

However, there are historical vampires (that engaged in blood rituals and such) such as Dracula, The Blood Countess (I can't recall her name as of the moment).Vlad Tepes (http://altreligion.about.com/library/weekly/aa102203a.htm) and Elizabeth Bathory (http://europeanhistory.about.com/od/bathoryelizabeth/index.htm?terms=Elizabeth+Bathory).

Pilot
October 26th, 2004, 02:02 PM
Yeah! That's it-

I knew Dracula (Vlad), but i couldn't remember her name. I do remember that she did some cruel things, such as leaving people outside in the freezing cold winter, then throwing buckets of ice water on them.

Cruel things. Then there was Vlad, who became known as the impaler, but that is kind of self explanitory!

WingedTigerChild
October 26th, 2004, 03:32 PM
I love vampire lore. Countess Bathory bathed in the blood of young virgin women because she believed it kept her looking young and beautiful.

Pilot
October 27th, 2004, 02:12 PM
There is that as well. There are so many great books, stories, etc.
Have any of you ever read any of Anne Rice's (if i spelled her name incorrectly forgive me) books?

Sleet
October 27th, 2004, 02:42 PM
I've heard tell of so-called psychic vampires, people who seem to drain those around them of all energy, apparently involuntarily. I've never experienced one but I could accept their existence. There are also those who engage in the whole blood drinking bit. But the undead creature of folklore? No. Totally fake.

Dammit Val, I'm agreeing with you frequently lately. It's weirding me out. ;)

Valnorran
October 27th, 2004, 04:03 PM
Dammit Val, I'm agreeing with you frequently lately. It's weirding me out. ;)
Give yourself to the Dark Side!

Valnorran
October 27th, 2004, 04:04 PM
I love vampire lore. Countess Bathory bathed in the blood of young virgin women because she believed it kept her looking young and beautiful.
If the portrait I saw of her is any indication, it didn't work.

Pilot
October 27th, 2004, 04:13 PM
If the portrait I saw of her is any indication, it didn't work.

Perhaps the results were seen only by her... I mean everything she did was an "exact" portrait of herself, crazy.

There is no two ways about it, simply crazy-

PoisonIvy
October 29th, 2004, 03:37 AM
I know that there are groups of people who claim to be vampires and they do frequently cut themselves and drink each others blood,though they are particular about the people who's blood they drink. As to whether or not they are vampires in the folklore sense I do not know.I also know that there are people who have a certain disease(I can't remeber the name of it) that can't be in the sun at all or they will die,but they don't call themselves vampires. As far as the inhuman strength and the immortality thing,no,I don't believe that.

Enigma
October 29th, 2004, 04:46 AM
There are people who drink blood because they are in-love with the idea of a vampire. But that does not make them vampires. True vampires? Does the question really need to be asked? Be logical!
Muahahahahahah..., sorry I thought my crypt door was closed.:bat:

FaerieGothMommy
October 29th, 2004, 04:50 AM
I don't believe in vampires, the only type i believe in, is people pretending to be a stereotypical vampire...

Wether they existed many years ago on the other hand.. i'm not quite sure.

Fairyelf
October 29th, 2004, 08:25 AM
Psychic vampires yea

LadyTrinity
October 29th, 2004, 08:30 AM
Vamps are real... people out there drink blood and live a vamp life style.. as for the typical tv vampire who comes out of their grave... I would love to believe it once was true because goodness.. look at all the bizarre stuff we have in the world...

- Hobbits
- Lake Monsters
- Big foot
- Aliens...

You get my point LOL. :abanana:

Fairyelf
October 29th, 2004, 08:54 AM
Vamps are real... people out there drink blood and live a vamp life style.. as for the typical tv vampire who comes out of their grave... I would love to believe it once was true because goodness.. look at all the bizarre stuff we have in the world...

- Hobbits
- Lake Monsters
- Big foot
- Aliens...

You get my point LOL. :abanana:
yes :chatty:

mol
October 29th, 2004, 09:51 AM
Other. Never seen one.

xblue420x
October 30th, 2004, 05:12 AM
Vamps are real... people out there drink blood and live a vamp life style.. as for the typical tv vampire who comes out of their grave... I would love to believe it once was true because goodness.. look at all the bizarre stuff we have in the world...

- Hobbits
- Lake Monsters
- Big foot
- Aliens...

You get my point LOL. :abanana:
Yesterday my sister was online reading a National Geographic artical about how scientists found a hobbit skull..I thought that was the funniest thing ever..The whole time I was reading through this I was thinking that..If they found an actual hobbit skull, and now believe that hobbits(which before were mythical fairy tale creatures in a couple of books) used to live side by side with us, then why not believe in the possibility of vampires? It is possible that the whole idea of 'tv movie vamps' started with rummors of the disease and just increased into what it is today, but like LadyTrinity said, is it so far fetched that in a world where people believe in monsters, big foot's, aliens, immortalized gods and goddesses, faeries, ect, that there could be immortal spirits(or something of the sort) in human bodies?
It's just one of those things that we will never know about..if they are real they certainly aren't going to let the rest of the world know about it or else they probably would have already. :whatmewor

Stormcall
October 31st, 2004, 08:05 PM
I try to keep an open mind, but NOT at the expense of logic. And my logical mind tells me that anything that's in the movies has usually been blown so far out of proportion that there's more falsity than truth. So, movie-style vampires? Nah. But if they did or do exist, they're probably so far removed from the "vampire" that hollywood has us believe, we wouldn't even recognize them as such.
Did that make sense to anyone but me??

Fire and Earth Witch
October 31st, 2004, 08:18 PM
In my personal opinion...yes, they do. And I don't mean those people that drink blood but are only saying that they are. I have done some research on this subject. However, I do believe, that the movies portray them wrongly. Although nothing is wrong with that, it's just fun and games. But yes, I do, and I have a bit of a reason to believe such things.

Jolixte
October 31st, 2004, 08:23 PM
Sang Vamps - Fake
Psychic Vamps - Real

violet rain
October 31st, 2004, 08:37 PM
YES!!!! I used to know a few...... I think I have said this before I don't really want to talk about it :blushake:

Threase
October 31st, 2004, 08:46 PM
*shrugs* I believe in vampires... blood-sucking kind, psi/energy vampires...

And yes, I'm in love with the idea of the creatures of the night... but that isn't because I play too much Vampire: The Masquerade (which is a kickass game, by the way...)

Moriquenya
October 31st, 2004, 11:25 PM
Faker than fake.

Now werewolves on the other hand.....LOL! ;)

Valnorran
November 1st, 2004, 10:34 AM
In my personal opinion...yes, they do. And I don't mean those people that drink blood but are only saying that they are. I have done some research on this subject. However, I do believe, that the movies portray them wrongly. Although nothing is wrong with that, it's just fun and games. But yes, I do, and I have a bit of a reason to believe such things.
Would you be willing to share those reasons? I'm genuinely curious. I weighed in with my opinion earlier, but I always keep in mind I could be dead wrong.

xarimae
November 2nd, 2004, 01:28 PM
I don't know. I feel that they're fake but then again, maybe its just because I haven't seen one. They're just like aliens, bigfoot, and the loch ness. There are hundreds of files and books on them and just because you haven't seen one, doesn't mean its not real.

Fire and Earth Witch
November 2nd, 2004, 02:19 PM
Would you be willing to share those reasons? I'm genuinely curious. I weighed in with my opinion earlier, but I always keep in mind I could be dead wrong.

Not a problem I just have to find my reasearch. It's been on my computer for quite some time, I'd love to post it and give it to you. As for one of my own, I've had a few conversations with one before. But details I cannot give. :fphone

Tisiphone
November 23rd, 2004, 02:20 PM
They exsist.

aerialla
November 24th, 2004, 07:35 AM
I have been researching vampirism since I was 4 so 23 years. Darn my mom anyhow (Long story about a movie called Love At First Bite with George Hamilton). Every culture has vampiric lore, and there is no proof that they don't exist. Probably not in the Hollywood type of way. It would be awesome if they all looked like Spike and Angel. People don't want to believe in Werewolves either, but Lycanthropy is an acutal registered disease. Until all theories can be disproved without a shoadow of a doubt I hold in my heart that they are real.

whitewater
December 1st, 2004, 04:29 PM
bloodsucking vampires are the things of horror movies. Psychic vampires, however, are very real.

Valnorran
December 2nd, 2004, 10:15 AM
People don't want to believe in Werewolves either, but Lycanthropy is an acutal registered disease.
Lycanthropy is a psychosis in which the person actually thinks he/she is a wolf. The person does not physically change into a wolf. It's a rare and severe mental illness.

aerialla
December 2nd, 2004, 11:19 AM
Yes, Lycanthropy is very rare, but where did it stem from. It didn't just sprout up because of Werewolve movies, just like Vampires didn't start because of Vampire Movies. There is a measure of truth behind both.

Bram Stoker based his book Dracula on lore and folktales from Romania. But there is lore and folktales about vampires all over the world, all sharing the same common denominators.

How could something that is not real affect so many people thousands of miles away from each other without prior knowledge of each other. Its just not possible. That's why I believe that vampires are real.

Just like Psychic vampires are real, even I have been accused of being one. If one is real why can't another, just because there is no proof on the record at this time in the Earth's history doesn't disfault today's history. That's like telling Christians that Jesus didn't exist.

I don't think I'm that off base with this statement, but Dracula is to Vampires what the New Testament is to Jesus. Is it a real tale told by people who lived it, or a make believe story based on fact. You decide

Valnorran
December 2nd, 2004, 11:33 AM
Yes, Lycanthropy is very rare, but where did it stem from.
The same source of all other delusions and psychoses - from minds tormented by illness. Maybe werewolves and vampires are real, but I need something a little more solid than folktales. I once read an interesting speculation as to where the tales of such creatures came from - ancient serial killers. The idea was that when people "back in the day" were faced with a serial killer, they simply couldn't accept that a human being was capable of such things, so they explained it away as beasts that look human. Even today, many people have great difficulty accepting that people are capable of doing such things and insist guys like Manson and Dahmer aren't really human. The same can be said of other mental illnesses. I've encountered more than one schizophrenic, and when you look into their eyes, it suddenly becomes very easy to believe in demonic possession. Maybe such creatures do exist, but I need some decent evidence. Proof that they don't exist is not proof that they do. The fact that many disconnected cultures had similar beliefs supports the idea that the beliefs were true, but it does not prove it. There are other explanations as to why different cultures shared similar ideas.

6th Angel
December 2nd, 2004, 02:48 PM
People say I´m a Psychic vampire. And I mean a lot of people have told me this, my mom says that especially when I´m mad and leave the room she feels like all life force leaves her body, even the maid once told me the same (and she doesn´t belive in these things at all). I have no clue how or why I do this, but coming from like 5 or 6 different people that don´t know each other, stikes me as no coincidence.

QUEEN OF THE DAMNED
December 2nd, 2004, 07:53 PM
Its fake and all made up, but those vampire ladies are sexy http://www.mysticwicks.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Right on brother!!!

I only believe in psychic vampires.

Although I wish so badly they were real. I wish I was one. How cool. LOL

AnFoghlaiBanrion
December 2nd, 2004, 08:22 PM
Fake. And the whole psychic vampire thing seems to really be stretching it.

Springheel Jack
December 3rd, 2004, 09:05 AM
Every culture has vampiric lore, and there is no proof that they don't exist. Probably not in the Hollywood type of way. It would be awesome if they all looked like Spike and Angel. People don't want to believe in Werewolves either, but Lycanthropy is an acutal registered disease.
I feel I need to add my 2 cents. I have a lifelong interest in folklore and the supernatural. My family come from a peasant village in Italy where ghosts, werewolves, witches and so on are part of everyday life. One thing you must take into account with the whole vampire/werewolf being real thing is that in the minds of traditional peasants they are interchangeable: vampire, witch and werewolf as totally separate beings is a relatively modern idea.
From the earliest times, those accused of using evil magic were accused also of drinking blood and eating the flesh of the living. The Romans, ofr example, most famously used this acusation against Christians, but it was a standard attack against any individual or group you wished to do away with. This belief survived the collapse of Rome as the stirge, evil spellcaster who drank the blood and ate the flesh of the living (think of the witch in Hansel and Gretel). In Romania, witch and vampire were vitually the same thing, a witch (strigoi vii) becoming a vampire (strigoi mort) after death.
Similarly, witches have always had the power to change into animals. Ancient Egyptians would hire young men to guard bodies being prepared for mummification incase witches in the form of small animals would sneak in and take parts of the faces of the dead for use in spells.
Original werewolf stories have more in common with the traditional witch than the full moon cursed lycanthrope we know today: those who confessed during the werewolf trials in France (mostly 16th and 17th centuries) most often claimed they got their powers via wolfskins, magical ointments or amulets. They changed voluntarily whenever they wanted to and killed either for the pleasure of it or to spite their neighbours.
Remember also, vampires have traditionally had magical powers as well as the power to morph into animals (with wolf being a particular fave). Many traditional vampire legends refer to the vampire attacks being committed by animals or savage and bestial creatures more akin to the modern werewolf than the goth vampire we think of today.
So my point is: creatures from folklore, not as easily categorisable as you might think. If you believe that vampires exist, werewolves probably would also have to by definition, if you can even think of them as different things.

donatello51
December 3rd, 2004, 10:04 PM
The classic vampire? I say fake. A medical condition mistaken for vampirism... yes.
Many things we never understood before are now explained by science and medicine. But in terms of a need to live on blood a need you gain from a bit from another person or thing? Transformation of body into a wolf or bat or smoke or whatever? NO. An undead preying on the living? NO. Energy vampires.. yes. Simple physics would say energy into matter and back again. Transition from one state to another makes things unstable. So an unbalenced human or animal or object needing energy to balence itself is only natural.

enchancea
December 4th, 2004, 02:21 AM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.
Same heree

trippingdaisy
December 10th, 2004, 05:03 AM
I believe in psychic vampires (I'm pretty sure an old roommate was one, but I cant be certain). as for the blood sucking type.... well, I wouldnt dismiss it. I used to hang around with a bunch of people who would dress up all vampiric, and occasionally would drink each others blood, but they said it was little more than role play, and they loved the drama and romanticism of it all.
I am certain of one thing though; If real bloodsucking vampires DO exist, waving a bit of garlic in front of their faces isnt gonna do a damn thing.


:bat: I vant to suck your bloood! (sorry!)

karma_lives
December 10th, 2004, 08:52 PM
you guys are great. i love reading all of your guys' different opinions! I think i'm just in love with the whole idea of vampires..unless of course one was feeding off of MY neck in which case i don't wanna believe. LoL get it? i might not make sense. i'm tired. DON"T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT!!! ha ^^ botox eyebrows..

WokeUpDead
December 13th, 2004, 06:22 PM
Fake. If they did exist I would want to be one as long as Lestat wasn't my boss, that would really suck.

gurlygurl2004
December 28th, 2004, 11:41 PM
I don't think I've ever known a psychic vampire but their are definitely goths and freaks who are into that sort of thing. It's sort of like role playing, but I guess everyone here seems to believe that those people aren't real vampires.

karma_lives
January 27th, 2005, 10:17 PM
i do believe i started a discussion! i'm so proud of myself..*sigh*

hotrodchick
February 2nd, 2005, 04:59 AM
Well there is such a Vampire but it's just a flying bat. It's not how the movie media portrays it. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind getting bit by one to have immortal life. :p

ollathair
February 4th, 2005, 11:08 PM
Vampires, or Vampyres, are real. I mean, not Dracula, but vampires, blood or psychic, exists. Hey, they're people with beliefs the same as us. One of them was on a show called Mad House with that fluffy Fiona Horne bimbo.

Zophael
February 5th, 2005, 02:51 AM
we (psi-vamps) exist, though not as the hollywood stereotype.
our sanguine cousins I'm not convinced of yet.

To find out more:

psi - http://www.michellebelanger.com/
psi & sangue - http://www.sanguinarius.org/

Sothis*Crowfeather
February 7th, 2005, 11:38 AM
I do belive in psy-vamps for sure, I've meet many many pepole who qualify.

I however almost want to belive in hollywood vampires, simply becuse I have a love of vampire movies and stories and all that. I find it hard to belive that something that has so much legend, so many diffrent names, yet alot of familarity in the legends, is found in virtually every culture, there must be some element of truth to it. I think there might be some sort of immortal, blood drinking, once human type creature somewhere out there. But I think that if such a type of creature exsits it is not the romantized, beautful verson of vampires you see in Anne Rice books.If a true vampire like creature exsits that it probley dosn't interact much with human socity, and probley dosn't kill or feed much off of humans. Thier probley very rare, if no extent as they would have surived alot better in less modernized times, and probley not alot of fun to be around.
Anyway that just my thinking on the subject :bat:

Mayru
February 7th, 2005, 04:09 PM
Real or not, Im facinated by the subject, a really great book i recently read was: Vampire, The Complete guide to the world of the Undead. By Manuela Dunn Mascetti
its a great read.

Tisiphone
February 9th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Hey Karma, did you ever post on bolt.com? Your name looks so close to another person on their that i talk about vampires with. O.o

vnvrymdreglage
February 12th, 2005, 03:43 PM
But their are definitely goths and freaks who are into that sort of thing.

Hey, now. Don't go and be stereotypical.

charmedkisses1
February 12th, 2005, 03:57 PM
Fake.

Ravendancer
February 13th, 2005, 08:35 AM
I've to think about this one.
Yeah, gotta say I believe in the whole thing. Not the Hollywood thing. But yeah.
There has to be some truth to the idea. I mean, there are some that say that the Gods/Goddesses that some worship are just lore??????? For me I know that isn't the way it is.
So I guess unless you have experienced it, it's kind of hard to say nope in my humble opinion. *giggles*

Queenorivers
February 13th, 2005, 04:21 PM
other, it's an illness people can get, a writer made up the character but some humans with this rare illness can have some traits, badly formed teeth, fur on their faces etc etc and only drinking fresh human blood can cure it, it might be a load of bull coz my dad told me but that's what could have happened, the character was deff made up by a writer. It's like............ ..... superman?

Pentangling_57
February 13th, 2005, 07:24 PM
Not the ones from fairy-tales, no. But I'm going to try and keep an open mind about other possibilities. But overall... no, not the kind I think you mean.

elfmage
February 14th, 2005, 03:07 AM
Real.

teh_fae
February 14th, 2005, 07:24 AM
I definately believe that that vampires are real. I don't believe however that they are like Hollywoods portrays them, that's a bunch of hocus pocus to me. I believe that they're regular humans like anyone else and lead normal lives. They are some what different, they just don't go telling the whole world. But I do believe that they exist.

Holly_Blackwell
February 16th, 2005, 07:47 PM
Fake.
Though I do WISH they were real. Lestat in particular...hehe *drifts off into a happy place*
I know there are lots of people who dsiplay a blood fetish similar to vampires (like Elizabeth Bathory) but I think they're all just normal people. Particularry twisted normal people...

Sephiroth
February 16th, 2005, 08:24 PM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.


diddo
but i have a taste for blood but that could just be a fetish thing thou.

InsomniaGoddess
March 14th, 2005, 09:14 PM
I totally 100% believe that the vampires from the old lore are real. I don't know if I'm just caught up in the fantasy of it all or what, but I beleive in them. I know all about people who go around drinking blood in broad daylight claiming to be vampires. I have nothing against them but I personally beleive that those who say that they are the "real" vampires are completely taking away from the romantic notion of this fantastic creature. I strongly beleive in the phrase "to each his own" so please don't get me wrong I don't wish to offend and I have nothing against those people. But I find the true vampires of the old world more fun and interesting. And I absolutely think they are real. :bat:

Tabbykitty
March 15th, 2005, 02:06 AM
I don't really think that vampires (the undead type) are real.... but let me assure you, psychic vampires are real and I have met two of them. At first I didnt believe it was possible. However, owing to an incident that involved 10+ witnesses, I am convinced this is a real phenomenon.

My psychic vamp story (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=87212)

morrigan
March 15th, 2005, 06:33 AM
psychic vamps,, yes
fetish vamps.. yes but they are self made not undead with magickal powers to turn themselves into bats etc
vampires in general still undecided.. I may make up my mind on that one once i finnish reading "Vampires.. The occult truth" by konstantinos..
its a pretty good read so far though..

abrakus
March 15th, 2005, 10:32 AM
I think they're real, but there is a code they have to live by.
They don't go poof in the sun, or dislike garlic, mirror etc.... Psychic vampires can be mistaken for empaths and vice versa, blood vampires however can either be a whole fetish thing or it is genuine that they need blood. I'm could tell you almost everything i know about vampires but i really can't be bothered at the moment. Hollywood vamps really get on my nerves, the closest thing they have ever come up with in my eyes is Blade the character.*Marvel created blade, but holloywood made him "real" Apart from the super human strength thing. Vampires are real..... (sorry my little rant is over.)

Kaliel
March 15th, 2005, 01:44 PM
Real, but various types.

Fyre_Nymph
May 9th, 2005, 06:23 PM
yep

Valnorran
May 9th, 2005, 06:43 PM
For those who are of the opinion vampires are real, could any of you explain why? What experiences did you have that convinced you?

innocent
May 12th, 2005, 01:23 PM
I don't think that vampires are real.

There are the "vampires" however.

type 1. A person with genetic conditions which make them a vampire.
Such as ~Scleroderma Pigmentosm ( A severe allergy to sun)
~Pica ( A lack in iron which causes the body to consume non-food items like chalk, dirt, grass, stones, ect. and commonly blood because of its iron content.)
~Another one which I'm not even gonna try to spell which is a type of continuous iron deficancy, only fixed using supplenents and foods high in iron.

type 2. A person with a fetish. There is a psychological condition revolving around this idea and there is also a type of personality that embraces death, which is usually excited by prospect of sharing one life source or stealing someones life source via drinking there blood.

Darkdale
May 12th, 2005, 01:41 PM
lol Vampires are pure fiction. There may be people who pretend they are vampires, but I assure you they are not. Vampires are a thing of fiction, like werewolves and mummies.

Rev R
May 12th, 2005, 01:52 PM
Hollywood vamps really get on my nerves, the closest thing they have ever come up with in my eyes is Blade the character.

Hollywood didn't invent Blade, Marvel comics did.

There are so many similar legends across the world about blood sucking creatures. It could be that these creatures actually exist(ed). It also could be a lovely story concocted to show us that man's greatest predator is himself. The only way to really find out is to actually meet one, but then you probably wouldn't survive to tell anyone else whether or not the stories are true.

abrakus
May 12th, 2005, 02:46 PM
I know marvel created blade, but hollywood made him "real". I haven't been on this thread since my rant, but thanks for telling me about my little mistake.

Valnorran
May 12th, 2005, 02:54 PM
lol Vampires are pure fiction. There may be people who pretend they are vampires, but I assure you they are not. Vampires are a thing of fiction, like werewolves and mummies.
"Lisa, vampires are make-believe, like elves, faeries, and Eskimos."
- Homer Simpson

Akir
May 29th, 2005, 09:58 PM
I think that vampires are real and that there is a special romance with them, that they are human to a degree and that they can love. Not all of them are evil...

Kaija
May 29th, 2005, 11:47 PM
I know psy vamps are real.. (and have many opinions about what causes it), sang vamps.. Not the hollywood versions, but yes.. and then there are people like me.. I am considered a fetishist I suppose.. to me, that is an important thing that I want to share with the people I am close to.. (may explain why I am eternally single.. lol) I don't dress like a stereotypical Vamp, I don't play Masquerade.. I am just me. lol..

I think the lore is a bit hard to trace... I've read several books on it, but Konstantinos' was the best that I've seen as yet. He put down plain facts, looked at actual things that could be disproven by today's science.. but the book still left me with the idea that there is something more to find. I think it's like in the haunting.. It's not supernatural.. it's preternatural.. (something we don't have an answer for yet, but will in the future)

One reason?.. for how long was the giant squid considered a myth?.. now they are commonly washing up on shore.. (though I've only ever heard of anyone seeing them dead) We cannot know everything there is to know.. it's just not possible.

Oh, and on a historical note: Vlad didn't have blood rituals.. he was never known to drink blood.. He impaled victims and in one known case had a table put underneath one of the spikes.. he dined underneath the dying person. Nothing he did was even particularly bad in comparison honestly.. That's what EVERY person in power had to do.. you had to make people afraid to try to fight you.. He isn't the only one to use impalement.. he's just the only one that seemed to take the same amount of joy in it.

and Bathory, well.. hehe.. I have been obsessed with her for years.. she was kind of twisted, but she would have been considered more of a witch than vamp. She bathed in blood, didn't drink it.. delighted in torture.. etc. etc.etc... Supposedly the character of Dracula was based on Stoker hearing about Bathory and Vlad and confusing their stories.. (easy to do since there was a ban on speaking about Bathory to outsiders)

Galaxia
May 30th, 2005, 06:40 PM
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e4e123@yahoo.com
June 1st, 2005, 02:30 PM
I don't know what you'll think of this but my mother's a vampire otherwise known as a "Vein" from Venus. It must be true because she bit me once. You really put the meaning in the word "Galaxia", don't you.

evangeline
June 2nd, 2005, 10:20 AM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.


Agreed. It's interesting to me that so many pagans believe themselves to be blood drinking vamps. What they don't realize is that the first "vampire" (Vlad the Impaler) was actually a Christian who swore to stop the Turks from invading his homeland. Dracula (son of the dragon, I believe) was a name not associated with the devil in Christian lore back then.

Aconite
June 4th, 2005, 01:24 AM
bah, un real

wolf
June 4th, 2005, 01:58 AM
IMO---stereotypical vampire (drink blood/live forever/get special powers/burn up in the sun)---totally fake.

The only type of vamp I believe in is the emotional/energy vampire. And those can be just about anybody or anything.

seconded.

WingedTigerChild
June 4th, 2005, 02:51 AM
What they don't realize is that the first "vampire" (Vlad the Impaler) was actually a Christian who swore to stop the Turks from invading his homeland. Dracula (son of the dragon, I believe) was a name not associated with the devil in Christian lore back then.

Dracula was not the first vampire or first of vampire lore. This is a common misconception that stems from the popularity of Bram Stoker's idea of Dracula and vampires, being the first to really 'romanticize' them. The rest is correct though. :)

thedawnofthyme
June 10th, 2005, 02:42 AM
:bat: I don't believe in vampires in the drinking yer blood/spontaneously combusting in direct sun light sort of way. I believe there's energy vampires though...my lil hag's one. :woah: <------- Me after a day w/ my lil hag. Teenagers...we can't choke 'em...for it is written some where. I got some white out though...we could fix that crap real quick like. :hrmm: You'll never see a hag move so fast in yer life. :deviltail

Kyo
June 10th, 2005, 04:28 AM
Winged Wolf (founder of the Psion Guild) explains, with her personal experience as being a vampire for a period of time, the true nature of Vampirism.

http://parazoology.thepsionguild.net/Vampyrs/index.html (http://parazoology.thepsionguild.net/Vampyrs/index.html)

AstralMoth
June 10th, 2005, 06:56 AM
Winged Wolf (founder of the Psion Guild) explains, with her personal experience as being a vampire for a period of time, the true nature of Vampirism.

http://parazoology.thepsionguild.net/Vampyrs/index.html (http://parazoology.thepsionguild.net/Vampyrs/index.html)
That makes a lot more sense than the last page I read on real vampires anyway. Nice link
Previously I was under the impression that to be a 'real' vampire you had to hang out in goth clubs and call yourself 'kindred' and play rpg's.