View Full Version : I don't like my chart!
arctic splash
October 28th, 2004, 04:15 PM
I'd like to hear reactions to my chart, which seems... unusual to me. Perhaps someone with more experience and intuition on the subject could give me insight (especially on romantic matters!). I feel so trapped by Capricorn! I don't have any oppositions in my chart, with major planets, but a bunch of conjunctions, and I haven't really figured out how they play out.
All those planets in the 12th house, too... :sadeyes:
zehava
October 28th, 2004, 07:40 PM
sorry, man. i'm not good at the chart thing. but i sympathise with the not liking your chart thing :hugz: i'm not terribly fond of my own... no earth whatsoever, so i kind of envy you ;)
MOST people who end up in my life are either earth signs like capricorn or taurus (my parents are both caps, my ex-husband, a few friends - my daughter is a taurus) or water signs (lots of pisces - my brother, my best friend... and scorpios... ) everyone else tends to stay away from me. LOL. (think that's a sign that perhaps i live the earthiness i'm missing vicariously (bwa hahaaa) through friends and family?)
capricorn has a LOT of positive qualities :D from my limited knowledge, caps are pretty stable people, damn hard working when they like what they do. i think i've also read 'determined' and 'purposeful' but i can't remember where now. maybe loyal if my ex is any indication of capricorn (he takes a LONG time to make friends, but when you ARE his friend, he will never consider you anything else, is that a capricorn trait?)
totally on intuition, and i don't know you very well, so ignore if i'm off: on the romantic side of things i'm guessing if you feel trapped by capricorn, you're probably pretty quiet about expressing your emotions? saying things like 'i really appreciate you' or even the dreaded 'L' word is hard. maybe if you say these things once you figure it's good enough and don't repeat them often? you ARE passionate, you just have a hard time letting go to show that side of yourself to other people... it may take quite some time for you to feel comfortable enough with a person to show it at all.? (maybe even though you really WANT to fall in love you're being held back by the fact/fear that there really is no sure footing when it comes to matters of the heart... and capricorns seem to like their sure footing ;)).
so based on my guesses (which, again, could be totally off), i think romantically you need to learn to 'let go' a bit and realize that even though YOU know you're into a partner, they might need to hear you say it more often than you do, kwim?
so, as i understand in my limited knowledge of astrology, the twelve house is supposed to be an, ermm... rather ugly, sad place, right?
wait... i found this. it might help you feel better:
The 12th house is also our connection with what the renowned Swiss psychiatrist Dr. Carl Jung monikered as the "collective unconscious." As such... the 12th house is our connection with dreams, visions, fantasy, romance, illusions, and redemption.
the whole article is here (http://www.thezodiac.com/12thhouse.htm).
*shrinking back to her corner hoping she wasn't WAY off*
-z
arctic splash
October 28th, 2004, 10:25 PM
Thanks for your input, and for that article! And no, you're really pretty close. It does take me a long time to really trust someone (or at least, I'd need a really good intuitive sense about that person), but when I do feel comfortable, I have no problem saying 'I love you' or showing that person how much I appreciate them. In fact, I love it. I'm a huge romantic. In the case of my ex-fiancee, you couldn't get me to stop! Heh. :) It's getting to the point where I can be so trusting that's difficult.
You're also right that I'm very passionate, but that most people who don't know me well don't get to see how passionate I really am. Often when I meet new people, I come off as quite reserved... but there's a really silly, carefree, passionate part of me that doesn't come out until I really trust someone.... or, unless I'm with someone who I feel comfortable with who I feel can 'protect' me. (The problem sometimes is that by then they've gotten so used to the quiet, reserved me, that it's a little hard to just change and say, 'well, now that I trust you, here I am!' By that point I feel that I have a 'reputation' to live up to...)
Romantically it'd be nice to have a better idea, from an astrological perspective, what would be a good match for me. I feel it's got to be someone idealistic, open-hearted, who probably has her head in the clouds much of the time. I don't know if it's a good or a bad thing, but I just won't settle for anything less than a dream girl. I didn't, and even now, I won't. Dating isn't for me. So it may be difficult for me to find someone, but when I do, I'm totally devoted...
I know there's a positive side to Capricorn. I love my Sagittarius, though!
katclar
October 28th, 2004, 11:45 PM
I have Cap rising too, but my chart looks nothing like yours. My sun and moon are both Leo. Most of my planets are 7th/8th houses... All I can say is that Cap does seem to limit your "innards" when your sun and/or moon are not earth. I am not entirely sure yet that the limits are "bad" however! ;) In other words, Cap can stabilize parts of you which tend toward the erratic.
Just took a closer look, and our house placement is very similar...weird...
Unfortunately I think we're too similar for any luck romantically (if that helps...LOL!), but we'd make great friends...
Hugs,
Katrina
Fluffmeister
October 29th, 2004, 05:26 AM
Capricorn can be rather serious, but that Sag Sun wants to go out and play and be a wild child! The difficulty you may be having with your chart isn't necessarily the Capricorn - OK, it feels a bit restricting at the moment, but will serve you very well indeed later on in life (you don't appreciate Capricorn until after your Saturn return at the age of 29) - but the fact that all those planets are in the 12th house.
The 12th house is hidden, so it's not easy to access that energy. Your chart ruler, Saturn, squares Mars which is probably why you feel so frustrated about things, but in the longer term relationships aren't likely to be a big problem for you; you have Juno on the Ascendant, and Moon and Venus conjunct. Sure, they're in Capricorn where they're much more serious than usual - so you're likely to be a one-woman man, a good parent, and loyal and hard working, taking your relationship very seriously indeed. Your Sag Sun may prefer to go out and have a wild time and sow your wild oats NOW, but ultimately you're going to end up with something a lot more stable than that.
Incidentally, on a non-relationship front - with Jupiter and Saturn in Scorpio, and Mercury in Capricorn, I think you'd make a good magician.
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