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willowfairy
September 1st, 2001, 07:39 PM
sometimes i just need to cry. it will just happen suddenly - i feel misrable, like i want to crawl into a hole and never come out. and i will usually start to cry. i don't know if it's depression or not though. but i have some problems at home (i am not abused, molested, or anything really bad like that), and a pretty low self-esteem. i will feel like nobody loves or cares about me, but i know it's not true, that people do love me alot. does anyone else have the same experiences?

SpikesPet5150
September 1st, 2001, 07:42 PM
Willowfairy,
Yeah, sometimes I have that same problem... there's really no need to cry, or to feel miserable, but ya do. I don't feel depressed because there are times when I'm truly happy.. but yeah, I get times where I don't want to go outside, or even see sunlight. I just want to curl up under my covers in the dark and cry.

I wish a new a way to make us both better.. but it's a little comforting to know I'm not alone in this, even though it sucks to know you go through it too. **big hugs** I hope we both get better soon. :)
~Bree

loopy
September 1st, 2001, 08:04 PM
I get that way too, all the time. I actually fear I might be manic-depressive. I'm not saying that's the case with you; I'm just in a sharing mood. But I get really hyper and then a few hours I'll drop and be really depressed.

willowfairy
September 1st, 2001, 09:54 PM
thanks bree. :D *big hugs!*

loopy - what's manic-depressive?

loopy
September 1st, 2001, 11:12 PM
It's a disorder in the same family as depression, where basically I think your mood swings a lot. There's an FAQ here: http://home.att.net/~mercurial-mind/faq.html

Earth Walker
September 1st, 2001, 11:21 PM
With me, I wouldn't say that it is depression, but rather a
matter of low-self esteem, a sense of worthlessness, etc.,
which is laregely derived from my childhood and teenage
years, as well as current problems.....and it makes me feel
better that I have Ariel to talk to (vice-versa) and folks here
at MW to talk to, too.

:bubbles: :T :wave: :wave:

Life and friends are wonderful :sunny: :boing: :boing: :boing:

Raynewitch
September 2nd, 2001, 12:35 AM
I suffer depression - been suicidal MANY times, I actually used t ohave a length of hose in my car, so if the day came that I was *brave* (read: stupid) enough to kill myself I could just go to some out of the way place and do it. If you have someone to talk to it might help but if you are like me talking to someone about it is like pulling teeth. And I REFUSE to go to a shrink - if I cant tell the people I love there is no way I can tell someone I dont know :(. If you ever want to talk Im here :)

:elf: Rayne :elf:

EasternPriest
September 2nd, 2001, 12:49 AM
It could be depression, or a milder form called a disthymia. Here are some links that might help:



http://www.med.nyu.edu/Psych/screens/depres.html

http://www.appliedhealth.com/mood1.html

http://www.planet-therapy.com/problems/depression-questions.html

http://www.uspharmacist.com/NewLook/CE/Depression/Viewquestions.htm

Blessings...

SpikesPet5150
September 2nd, 2001, 01:06 AM
Yeah, Willow.. if ya ever need to talk, I'm here too. I'm a great listener. :) Maybe we could help each other out. **BIG HUGS**
~Bree
:elf:

willowfairy
September 2nd, 2001, 09:08 AM
Your answers reflect the presence of significant depressive symptoms. It is advised to seek a psychiatric consultation ....

i got this the on the first link, ep. is this bad?

but it is also weird because i will feel really terrible, and a 1/2 hour later i'm hyper. i'm not sure... and bree - thank you.
:boing:

Faery-Wings
September 2nd, 2001, 09:27 AM
MM Willow and Spike and whoemver else feels depressed.

I hear ya completely- and I sometimes feel blue a lot as well as having a few moderate cases of depression and one big doozy of postpartum depression. There are so many forms and levels of depression that I would not be able to say yes, you are depressed or not. But I do have a bit of advice (and yeah,I know when you are depressed, advice is the last thing you want :ahhhh: )

Mom Mode on: (sorry this cannot be helped :D)

Do you girls eat regulary and balanced meals? You could be feeling the highs and lows of your blood suger. I have mild hypogycemia and I know when my blood sugar drops, I feel sad and teary myself.

You are both young also (as in late teens early 20's, right? sorry if I am wrong!) Your hormones are still settling out too. your hormone levels can also rise and fall throughout the day. causing this feeling.

This was the hardest for me.... I don't know how active you are but studies show that regular exercise can help lift depression. Yeah, that stinks too- who has the energy to get out of bed, let alone work out?? But it does work, as much as I hate to admit it.

And if you girls are in school, HS or college, you should have free counseling available if you truly feel that you are sinking deeper and have really lost any joy in life.

Mom Mode off~

Feel free to pm me if any of you ever need a shoulder, advice, or just a place to vent.

(((HUGS!!!!!!)

Chris

SpikesPet5150
September 2nd, 2001, 12:26 PM
Chris,
Thanks for your Mom Mode. :) You're a sweetie. I don't eat 3 times a day... I usually eat 2 times a day, but I swear to you, I eat when I'm hungry. If I get a little hungry, I eat a little snack, but for meals, usually only 2 a day. I certainly don't exercize as much as I used to, I suppose you're right about that. If nothing else I could always just take a walk every night. Thanks for your advice. :)
~Bree
:elf:

willowfairy
September 2nd, 2001, 01:59 PM
i eat 3 meals a day and snack alot, i play soccer, and i'm 12. puberty, maybe. i'm not sure. but i live in a very small town and hardly see people in the summer. i think that's also a reason. when i'm with my friends i'm very energetic. :D school starts on wednesday!!!!!!! :p

Celtic_Angel
September 3rd, 2001, 12:09 AM
*hugs*

folkwitch
September 3rd, 2001, 04:07 AM
I had a phone conversation with my niece on her 16th birthday. I told her that I wouldn't want be 16 again for all the money in the world. It's too traumatic! One day you're way, way, way up and the next day, you're way, way, way downnnnn. Some days you love everybody in sight and the next, you hate everybody's guts. meanface: There are days you don't want to see anybody :razz: and you don't want anybody to se YOU!
She said, "Oh, thank you, Aunt Linda - you mean I'm NOT crazy?"
No, you're not crazy! :ahhhh:
This, too, shall pass.
:heartthro I love you:

gunner
September 3rd, 2001, 06:58 AM
from a dad who has raised a daughter, i agree with folkwitch. no, you're not crazy, and willow, puberty might have a lot to do with it in your case. it's an upsetting time of life we all have to get through. the advice the ladies have given is good, remember they were all where you are now once, some of them not all that very long ago. you're doing the right thing to come and ask the "wise women", it's one of our oldest traditions for very good reason. hang in there, you'll get through this and one day you will be one of the wise women helping another young woman in her time of change.

(boys don't "just sail through puberty" either, but we're taught to talk about it less, not necessarily a good thing.)

willowfairy
September 3rd, 2001, 07:30 AM
really, gunner? :D my guy friend's voice changed COMPLETELY over the summer and when i heard him talk i was like "wow!" but it is very sexy. :loveduv:

Swanspirit
September 3rd, 2001, 08:39 AM
Merry Meeting ,
and from your posts you sound as if you are going through puberty ......MoodSwings and free floating anxiety can be common with rapidly fluctuating growth and reproductive hormones having effects on young female bodies. Not that boys dont go through this as well , they simply have fewer hormonal adjustments to make because they dont have cyclical moontime to deal with as it adjusts itself ......
That is not to say you arent depressed . You might have some mild depression but I wouldnt recommend seeing a psychiatrist based on an online test. if you really need to talk to someone , find someone SAFE that you know at school, a teacher you trust, or a counselor, which would be much better than seeing a psychiatrist initally. You are not having serious suicidal thoughts , or at least you didnt say you were ...so I think what you might need is some safe and stable couneling, or someone close to talk to .....rather than seeking a psychaitrist who might diagnose you and treat you with some medication and then you end up carrying some diagnosis around that isnt applicable .
unless your feelings of depression start to get out of control, and OR you feel as if you want to harm yourself in some way .... a counselor or trusted mentor would be a good choice.
I worked with mentally ill kids for years and years...... so I do know what I am saying here :>....and Iknow you are gouing through a tough time , but I am sure you will find some balance and stability .
A bunch of online tests dont tell you much ,
they arent valid and just serve to increase your anxiety and you dont need that.
Unless you are looking fo something specific ; like codependency characteristics or
and you dont need to worry about that :>
You actually sound like a sensitive young person with some issues you need to talk about .
If you sounded seriously in need of a psyshiatric consult I would tell you in a New York Minute :>
Love and HUGS
Swannie

willowfairy
September 3rd, 2001, 09:43 AM
thanks swanspirit. but i'm not sucidal or anything, just sometimes i get down. mood swings are correct, i think. ;)

Swanspirit
September 3rd, 2001, 09:49 AM
and you have a mic or can get one ......
download PAlTALK its free ... and we can have a REAL conversation private or in my room the WITCHES CHAT...... it is G rated for kids and everyone I would have HATED to have missed the Childrens Goddess Choir singing we all come from the Goddess :>
HUGS
Swannie
you can get it here takes about 15 minutes from download to set up ...... BUT it is down right now for about 8 hours for reconfiguring but by tonight should be up and running
http://www.paltalk.com/paltalk/index.html

sherry
September 3rd, 2001, 11:12 AM
I totally agree with Chryssi1, Folkwitch, and with Swanspirit, and with Gunner. Lots of good advise there.

I hear at the Nursing Home I work at thr residents saying "Oh to be young again" but when I talk to them about their statement they do not ever go back that young. They mean 20's , when their bodies were working and the times were easy and they did not run out of energy. After 21 years as a nurse I can tell you I have never heard anyone say they miss Puberty!!
I know I would not go through it again, but keep in mind it does pass:D not as quickly as you would like it to (or your parents would like it too)
You are not crazy just growing inside and out!!