View Full Version : One of my friends needs some help! Can you guys give some.
Lilith Rain
March 4th, 2001, 05:18 AM
One of my newest students; let's call her Angie for privacy sake. And she as a problem I've included a copy of the email she sent me. I'd be awfully grateful to anyone wha has any suggestion as how she can cope with this problem. Though if it's hurtful, I don't want to hear it and I don't think any one else does, either. I'm taking your advice on this one, Kaylara. Thanx for the offering and now I'm taking you guys up on it. Hope no-one minds. O.K. Here's the story.
"Miss Lilith:
I have been trying to find someone to help me? I need a spell to
stop my sister-in-law from telling lies on me and my husband.
You see we tried to help her 2 yrs ago. But, she is a cranck head.
She uses drugs to hurt people. we let her move to springfield with us to
get her away from her x husband she lived with us for 81/2 months. She was
out of our site for 24 hrs one weekend and she smoked some meth through a
pipe and then tripped out in our home around my5 yr old at the time. She
called 911 and told them we were holding her against her will at gun point.
She does not think that she did anything bad but, she has causes alot of
greif for my husband and i because of what she did. now all she can do is
tell lies to my mother-in-law and father-in-law I need to now how to stop
her from doing this.
Needless to say when the police figured out that she was high they
96 her to the mental ward at St. John's Hospital in Springfield, MO.
but, now she is here in our faces again and still trying to hurt us. What
can i do ?"
Any advice or suggestions are most welcome.
Thanx again every1.
Lilith.
PS. I've inculded some John William Waterhouse for you all to look at. Hope you enjoy it.
Tigerwallah
March 4th, 2001, 10:55 AM
well, the first thing I would do would be to call upon your guardians to make sure that no harm can come to you while waiting for the right time to perform a spell to end her destructive behavior towards herself and you. Then, I would try to get one of her pipes. Something she has used, and something much more personal - like fingernail clipping or some hair. At sundown, I would go outside, draw the circle, offer a prayer to whatever entity you feel would be best help here, and using a leather string, bind the pipe tightly, leaving no piece uncovered - visualizing her in rehab and leading a healthy life. I would then dig a hole - at least six inches - and put her personal item in it (the hair or fingernail), and then step out of the circle and bury the bound and rendered useless pipe outside of the circle - to the south east or south where it's position is weakest. - If you can't get her pipe, use another for symbolism - won't be as effective, though. I've adapted this from an impotency spell. I did use this once for a drug addicted boyfriend. It effectively ended our relationship - months later I ran into him and he was drug free. A happy ending for all.
Hope this is helpful, Lillith Rain
Best Wishes to "Angie" and her family. Blessed be!
Tigerwallah
March 4th, 2001, 10:58 AM
I just realized that I didn't tell you to have her bury her personal item in the center of the protective circle - imagining her surrounded by light and positive energy.
Twig
March 4th, 2001, 11:30 AM
If worse comes to worse,get a restraining order. A child is part of the formula,so needs protection
May Andrasta protect you and yours, and give you
Peace,
Twig :elf:
rantnraven
March 4th, 2001, 11:57 AM
Sorry to hear of this. However, while a spell would be nice, what is truly needed here is help for the addicted. Narcotics Anonymous would be a good place to start but the addicted has to WANT help.
I for one am a recovering alcoholic with quite some time sober. I understand the difficulties of getting and staying that way. I also know a few meth users that have been clean for a while and the difficulties they went through.
They also have groups for family members called CDA - co-dependants anonymous that could help family cope and understand.
Hope this helps.
gunner
March 4th, 2001, 03:17 PM
this wants action on both levels, the physical and spiritual. while you wait for any spells you cast to take effect you want to take the advice above to protect yourself and the child(ren). i've had a problem much like that, a niece who asked for "shelter" then proceeded to make a royal mess all around herself, kin are kin but sometimes you must look to protect your own first even against "family" (and sometimes "family" are the most dangerous in that they can and will take advantage of our best impulses. and drug abusers are some of the most self centered, selfish people in the world when driven by their addiction. in that world there are no loyalties) i wish your student luck, she will need it!
(and thank you for the art lilith)
rantnraven
March 4th, 2001, 03:48 PM
Yes! Protect yourself and yours.
Yes, Alcohol/Drug abusers are often motivated by their addiction to their own means - they lie, cheat, steal and can disrupt others lives. More so, the addiction can be worse on the family members then on the abuser.
Just remember, Substance addiction is a disease. By that, I mean that the brain goes through a permanent alteration (e.g. mind altering drugs). Most do not realize that the alteration is permanent and can tend to disregard the addict as simply a looser. Sometimes the addicted doesn't even know they are addicted. There's a fine line between knowing when to help and when to give up.
My advise here is this:
1) Protect yourself, spouse and children.
2) Next time the "user" is high, call the police on her - especially if she has drugs in her possession (or "using" paraphernalia). Do this enough and she might get the point.
3) Go to a co-dependant meeting - they offer more advice and understanding even if you don't think you are co-dependant
Have your student check out this web site http://www.recovery-man.com/coda/ as there is some good information there.
gunner
March 4th, 2001, 07:57 PM
i agree with rantraven, if the addict is "in posession" call the police, it may feel like "ratting them out" but you are protecting yourself and your family, that is the first duty, all else, in this case, comes second. hopefully getting the addict in custody might lead to her involvement in a treatment programme. rantraven is correct, while those who prey on addicts are criminals and evil the addict him/herself is sick needing help whether he/she realises it or not (and many addicts do realise this but when they get "sick" they do what they must to ease the craving.) again, good luck to your student, we will in our own ways be trying to help. blessed be.
Celestite
March 6th, 2001, 05:44 AM
I read your friend's problem and can sympathesize with her predicament.
If you believe in Karma, then before the sister-in-law came to this incarnation, she would have agreed to go through these lessons.
I agree with comments that she is indeed under a type of "possession", but a binding spell although good for your friend doesn't really deal with the underlying issues for the sister-in-law.
My advice would be to contact the s-i-l's higher self and send in healing that way, as direct contact with her would appear futile.
In addition, I would break contact with her immediately, get a friend to open the door or answer the phone and tell her that you have moved house. Failing that get an injunction against her.
Sometimes you can help people much more constructively if you detach yourself from the immediate situation.
Blessings to all concerned.
Lilith Rain
March 7th, 2001, 05:27 AM
Thanx for the advice people I will pass all that onto "Angie" tonight as I got an email back from her though this is what she had to say from my advice it may help things for everyone who is helping me out with this. Here's what she had to say;
"Lilithrain:
My Siser-in-law chose to do the drugs on her own. But, She blames
everyone else for that too. But, from i gather from her broher she has
always been like this. when she lived with us 2 yrs ago whenever she looked
at me or my daughter it was like if she could get by with it she would kill
us and she still looks at us like that now whenever we are around her so we
don't go around her. But, my husbands mother and father think i don't like
them because we never go out there because of her. They also don't
understand why i can't forgive her and forget what hapened then. The other
things i was going to ask was????
When is the waning moon?
Where can i find a book with magic names?
what is libation?"
I can understand why she won't forgive her sister-in-law or forgive her, as I guess most of you can too. But yet again, anything and quite possibly anything will be apprieciated.
Bright Blessings
Lilith.
PS. Funny pic added.
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