Freaked out!

[Infinite Grey]

I am totally freaked out! The evil presence is back, only this time it seems to be occupying the hallways and living rooms of my current house. It is scary, every time I leave my room the air becomes thick, hard to move threw. I get an almost irresistible urge to hide, feeling pure malice hanging ambiently in the air. I can almost see "it" in the corner of my eye when I'm in the hallway, when I went outside I felt it watching me through a window. Oddly enough I felt safe outside, at peace, but the moment I stepped back indoors I felt fear wash over me. Now in my bedroom again I feel relatively safe, but I fear to sleep. It is 1:40am in the morning here. Unlike before, when I was younger, the presence was generally localized in my bed room.(Last time (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=71316) ) ’m beginning to believe I am curse or something... I fear soon my night attacks may begin again, and that is something I do not wish to deal with.

Does anyone have any advice? Am I just going crazy? If so then my insanity has been developing for over nine years now... this is not fun!

[Lunacie]

Have you tried talking to the presence and telling it that it MUST LEAVE?

It sounds like you need to do a cleansing and banishing ASAP. You can look for information on doing it yourself, or you can check www.witchvox.com (http://www.witchvox.com) for groups in your area and ask if any of them can come and clear the place.

[Infinite Grey]

Have you tried talking to the presence and telling it that it MUST LEAVE?


Yeah done that, and it left, now it's come back to say "hi" I guess.

I will look into a cleansing and banishing...

[LadyTrinity]

thats scary!
Last night I had someone on top of me... ENORMUS hands grabbing at my shoulders.. I wolk up in panic my shoulders hurt

[mol]

Well, lets look at some cold hard facts, shall we?

If it was something truly evil...you'd be dead. I mean if there was REALLY something to fear, you'd uh, well..be dead. You are obviously not dead. Therefore if you are feeling/seeing something then its YOU causing the fear when there is truly nothing to fear.

[zakzekezedd]

Definitely time for some major cleansing work. With the new moon coming up on the 12th this would be a good time to do it. It may not be a curse as much as for whatever reason you've attracted a pretty nasty entity. A good cleansing and banishing should evict it, and then follow up with a serious protection shield so it doesn't sneak back in. You may want to repeat the cleansing and protective work again at the full moon since this seems to be a particularly persistant and nasty bit of energy. I don't know what type of protective work you might have tried, or what herbs you might have ready access to, but you can get salt, cayenne pepper, and garlic at the grocery store and that mixture charged to keep away anything evil or harmful will add that extra "zap" to your protective work.

[Infinite Grey]

Well, lets look at some cold hard facts, shall we?

If it was something truly evil...you'd be dead. I mean if there was REALLY something to fear, you'd uh, well..be dead. You are obviously not dead. Therefore if you are feeling/seeing something then its YOU causing the fear when there is truly nothing to fear.

Perhaps... or maybe it enjoys tormenting me... or maybe it isn't after me at all, I'm just experiencing a side affect of it's presence?

In either case I have gained control of my fear and I have decided to ignore it.

[mol]

Perhaps... or maybe it enjoys tormenting me... or maybe it isn't after me at all, I'm just experiencing a side affect of it's presence?

In either case I have gained control of my fear and I have decided to ignore it.
Being there is NOT tormenting. If anyone is doing any kind of tormenting it is YOU tormenting yourself. Get a grip on yourself and stop trying to stir up fear that you know is irrational.

[Cielamara]

Well, lets look at some cold hard facts, shall we?

If it was something truly evil...you'd be dead. I mean if there was REALLY something to fear, you'd uh, well..be dead. You are obviously not dead. Therefore if you are feeling/seeing something then its YOU causing the fear when there is truly nothing to fear.

Excellent point, mol, and I agree.
It is apparent that InfiniteGrey is, however, truly afraid. We can suggest he simply tell himself over and over again that there's nothing to fear, but that won't make a difference if he really still believes there's something to be afraid of. I know what it's like to be afraid of energy forces you can't understand...I grew up with 'em. Therefore, I will offer my advice.
If you're doing a cleansing, you may go either very simple or a bit more complex. When I did the cleansing and warding back home, I mixed up water, salt, frankincense, rosemary, sage, lavender, mugwort and a bit of curry, which added an oddly comforting color and smell, not to mention some unusual energies. If you can't find all those ingredients, then surely you can find water, salt, and sage, at the very least. And even if you can't find the sage, water and salt will work sufficiently. So. Here are my instructions--you may adapt these as you see fit.

Ingredients
**Water
**Salt
**Other Components
Protection
~Sage
~Frankincense
Cleansing
~Rosemary
~Mugwort
Calming
~Lavendar
~Curry.

**Container in which you can mix the ingredients (Sacred vessels used in ritual are appropriate)

Instructions (For Cleansing Only)
Mix ingredients together, preferably with something with which you can direct energy--an athame, or wand, would be good, though simply using a regular old stick will work as well. If you set your mind correctly, you can tie it into the divine Masculine, particularly the element of Fire, which has to do with protection...this can be incorporated into any prayer or mantra you say while mixing the ingredients. Go around your house and paint the mix along every door frame and windowsill, subtly and discreetly--it really only takes a small streak to do the trick. Then sprinkle some in every corner of the house. Where the negative energy seems to be centered, perhaps sprinkle a protective symbol that means something to you in the middle of the floor. Focus your energy on self-protection.

Hope it helps. :) It sure did for me.

[Rudas Starblaze]

i agree with Mol. the only fear itself causes us panick. have no fear, fear no fear. nothing can harm you if you have no fear.

[Lunacie]

NOT being afraid isn't going to make entities, spirits or ghosts go away. Some you can live with, some you don't want to. But they really can't hurt you unless you become so nervous and afraid that you don't sleep well and become sick.

Okay, telling it to go away didn't make it stay away, but it did leave. So now you tell it, "You are not welcome here in this house, go away and stay away, do not come back again. By the power of three, so mote it be!" Then cleanse the house with your own energy, with salt water, with sage, with whatever resonates with you; then put bind runes on the windows and doors or use your energy to place wards around the whole house. It should leave and not come back, unless you continue to think about it and draw it back with your thoughts and energies.

[HolographicJoe]

i agree with Mol. the only fear itself causes us panick. have no fear, fear no fear. nothing can harm you if you have no fear.
No offense intended, but that's simply not true. Nothing can control you if you have no fear, but bones break whether you're scared or not.

[Xentor]

Admin mode

Moved to the Paranormal

[mol]

No offense intended, but that's simply not true. Nothing can control you if you have no fear, but bones break whether you're scared or not.
The entity in question is not breaking any bones.

[Rudas Starblaze]

No offense intended, but that's simply not true. Nothing can control you if you have no fear, but bones break whether you're scared or not.


very true, but they can heal fast if you know how to do it! trust me, i know from experiance. and they tend not break if you have totally faith in yourself when dealing with anything out of the ordinary. hard to believe, but faith of a mustard seed can move a mountain. dealing with spirits, ghosts, and demons is just like dealing with wild animals. i have done that my entire life growing up out in the country on a farm and all. its all in the mind. once you can control your mind and fears, you can control other things of lessor intelegance, bad thing is, some times there are people who can be controlled as well. i have found that out many of times..... especially at work.

[number_the_dead]

Wait, isnt this the presence who was giveing you scratches and bruises before? If that is so then there is danger of physical harm. So I say if there is physical danger you have a right to try to get rid of it.

[Mab]

Well, lets look at some cold hard facts, shall we?

If it was something truly evil...you'd be dead. I mean if there was REALLY something to fear, you'd uh, well..be dead. You are obviously not dead. Therefore if you are feeling/seeing something then its YOU causing the fear when there is truly nothing to fear.
I disagree. I grew up in a house that held a truly evil presence. I felt it. My mom felt it. My little brother & sister felt it. We'd all go sleep in the living room--some on the couches, some on the floor--just b/c we were so scared & it felt better to be together. A lot of nights we couldn't sleep. Sometimes it seemed to leave, sometimes it seemed oppressive & terrifying. None of us died b/c of it, but it definitely was not imagined fear or group hysteria--none of us really talked about how we felt until years later when we had all scattered--mom passed away, dad moved, bro moved, sis moved, I went away to college & then moved to a diff state. When my sis & I talked about it at first, we both experienced the same feelings.....just oppressive evil.

Just b/c something doesn't kill you, that doesn't make it a good/friendly spirit.

[mol]

*backs away, slowly*

[Fairyelf]

Excellent point, mol, and I agree.
It is apparent that InfiniteGrey is, however, truly afraid. We can suggest he simply tell himself over and over again that there's nothing to fear, but that won't make a difference if he really still believes there's something to be afraid of. I know what it's like to be afraid of energy forces you can't understand...I grew up with 'em. Therefore, I will offer my advice.
If you're doing a cleansing, you may go either very simple or a bit more complex. When I did the cleansing and warding back home, I mixed up water, salt, frankincense, rosemary, sage, lavender, mugwort and a bit of curry, which added an oddly comforting color and smell, not to mention some unusual energies. If you can't find all those ingredients, then surely you can find water, salt, and sage, at the very least. And even if you can't find the sage, water and salt will work sufficiently. So. Here are my instructions--you may adapt these as you see fit.

Ingredients
**Water
**Salt
**Other Components
Protection
~Sage
~Frankincense
Cleansing
~Rosemary
~Mugwort
Calming
~Lavendar
~Curry.

**Container in which you can mix the ingredients (Sacred vessels used in ritual are appropriate)

Instructions (For Cleansing Only)
Mix ingredients together, preferably with something with which you can direct energy--an athame, or wand, would be good, though simply using a regular old stick will work as well. If you set your mind correctly, you can tie it into the divine Masculine, particularly the element of Fire, which has to do with protection...this can be incorporated into any prayer or mantra you say while mixing the ingredients. Go around your house and paint the mix along every door frame and windowsill, subtly and discreetly--it really only takes a small streak to do the trick. Then sprinkle some in every corner of the house. Where the negative energy seems to be centered, perhaps sprinkle a protective symbol that means something to you in the middle of the floor. Focus your energy on self-protection.

Hope it helps. :) It sure did for me.


:thumbsup:

[QUEEN OF THE DAMNED]

Maybe it's nothing to be afraid of, like it was said before "if it was truly evil you would already be dead". You might only be afraid because it is the 'unknown', try some breathing exercises and try to communicate with it. I think that will make you feel more at ease. Maybe get some friends and contact it on a ouija board (only if you are game). It probably just wants attention. good luck and keep us posted. Sending calming energy your way. :)

[Dawa Lhamo]

My roommate last year complained about an entity similarly. She never had physical evidence, other than the fact that she'd go all cross-eyed and fall down. I tend to be blind to these things, but our other roommate said she could sense *something*. We performed a standard cleansing and it went away, but then about a month later, she said it was revisiting.

I hate to be mean, but I really think that either she was working herself up and creating it out of her own frustrations(the second time, perhaps even the first), or that her focus on fear and nervousness and such invited it back in. I never had a problem, even when she said it was right behind me. Perhaps the fact that I fill myself and my surroundings with love made the difference.

I have another friend whose house is haunted by unpleasant things, and they have to cleanse it periodically. (They're born-again Christians) But they believe that if they dwell on the idea, particularly the fear and anxiety associated with it, then it will make it easier for the spirits to return. For that reason, even though their house is commonly known to be haunted, they won't let anyone in who would go in looking for ghosts.

And even if in this particular case, it's not the fear itself that is allowing this thing "power" to hurt you, I think it's probably the fact that it can make you afraid is why it stays or why it comes back. I would say it probably feeds off it, and tries to make you afraid for that reason. Therefore if you can think of a way to eliminate or lessen the fear, then it should be beneficial.

You might also want to allow for the possibility that this thing is a creation from within you. Not that it necessarily is, but that it could be your nervous frustrations and such manifesting in a destructive form. To take care of that still requires some self-work on your part.

I don't think that all cases of this nature are necessarily catalyzed or propagated by the victim and his/her state of mind. There are certainly some that conceivably aren't, but when the victim is in a stronger place personally, they can deal with such things much more effectively. Just my thoughts.

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[Infinite Grey]

Tis an interesting thing, it has left or fled once more. Guess I scared it off... or not. Mores to the point I've been to busy to pay it attention, maybe "it" does feed off my fear. -shrugs- It no longer bothers me.

[Lunacie]

Hopefully it is gone for good. :)

[Hærfest Leah]

The advice given to you was very good, and I like the banishing and cleansing Lunacie suggested. It works very well for me. I have had great results witht the few I have had to drive off.