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Swanspirit
September 5th, 2001, 10:01 AM
Merry Berries :>
This is by no means complete but it is a good start :> ask anything you like about what ever :>
HUGS
Swannie



Name: Silver Venus
Born: 12-28-1977 at 5:15 AM TimeZone: GMT+0 [Standard Time]
Longitude: 053W41 Latitude: 01N16
Birth Julian Day: 2443505.72 GMST: 11:41 LMST: 8:07

NATAL ECLIPTIC LONGITUDE AND EQUATORIAL DECLINATION :

LONGITUDE: DECLINATION: HOUSE: RETROGRADE:
Sun 06 CAP 22 23 S 17 3 NO
Moon 05 LEO 43 14 N 27 10 NO
Mercury 22 SAG 17 20 S 06 2 YES
Venus 00 CAP 22 23 S 35 2 NO
Mars 09 LEO 58 21 N 20 10 YES
Jupiter 00 CAN 22 23 N 13 8 YES
Saturn 00 VIR 16 12 N 41 11 YES
Uranus 15 SCO 08 16 S 00 1 NO
Neptune 16 SAG 37 21 S 22 2 NO
Pluto 16 LIB 34 09 N 07 12 NO
Ascendant 03 SCO 35 N/A 1 N/A
MidHeaven 29 CAN 28 N/A 10 N/A

PLANETARY ASPECTS :

Sun Conjunct Venus Orb = 5° 59'
Sun Opposite Jupiter Orb = 6° 00'
Sun Trine Saturn Orb = 6° 05'
Sun Sextile Ascendant Orb = 2° 47'
Moon Conjunct Mars Orb = 4° 15'
Moon Square Ascendant Orb = 2° 08'
Moon Conjunct MidHeaven Orb = 6° 15'
Mercury Conjunct Neptune Orb = 5° 40'
Mercury Sextile Pluto Orb = 5° 43'
Venus Opposite Jupiter Orb = 0° 01'
Venus Trine Saturn Orb = 0° 06'
Venus Sextile Ascendant Orb = 3° 12'
Mars Square Uranus Orb = 5° 10'
Mars Trine Neptune Orb = 6° 39'
Mars Sextile Pluto Orb = 6° 36'
Mars Square Ascendant Orb = 6° 23'
Jupiter Sextile Saturn Orb = 0° 05'
Jupiter Trine Ascendant Orb = 3° 13'
Saturn Sextile Ascendant Orb = 3° 19'
Neptune Sextile Pluto Orb = 0° 03'

NOTE: The Ascendent is the first House Cusp.
The Midheaven is the tenth House Cusp.

HOUSE CUSPS FOR THE PLACIDUS SYSTEM :
HOUSE: HOUSE CUSP:
1 03 SCO 35
2 03 SAG 20
3 01 CAP 20
4 29 CAP 28
5 29 AQU 37
6 01 ARI 46
7 03 TAU 35
8 03 GEM 20
9 01 CAN 20
10 29 CAN 28
11 29 LEO 37
12 01 LIB 46

ELEMENTS :
FIRE Moon Mercury Mars Neptune
EARTH Sun Venus Saturn
AIR Pluto
WATER Jupiter Uranus Ascendant MidHeaven

MODALITIES :
CARDINAL Sun Venus Jupiter Pluto MidHeaven
FIXED Moon Mars Uranus Ascendant
MUTABLE Mercury Saturn Neptune

PARALLEL ASPECTS :
Sun PARALLEL Jupiter 0° 04'
Venus PARALLEL Jupiter 0° 22'
Mars PARALLEL Neptune 0° 01'


Name: Silver Venus
Born: 12-28-1977 at 5:15 AM TimeZone: GMT+0 [Standard Time]

CHARACTER:

As a Capricornian, the natives character is marked by being
practical and self reliant. Patience and persistence, especially in
achieving success through constant hard work are the person's
trademarks, as well as having faith in one's self and ability to
handle all the difficulties of life. Although natives are warm and
friendly to close friends, they are somewhat aloof and closed to
strangers. Being somewhat self-centered, natives are eager, though,
to sacrifice for others and receive sympathy and appreciation from
those they respect or those in authority.
Sun conjunct Venus confers an easygoing nature and a love for
life. Natives love art, harmony and having fun. They care about
others, yet may be self absorbed. This is a very feminine aspect if
the sun is in a feminine sign.
Sun opposite Jupiter natives have over inflated egos and don't
know when to quit when it comes to putting demands on others. They
need to learn moderation in eating, drinking, and all things. They
need to learn humility.
Sun trine Saturn natives are achievement oriented and are apt to
excel in scholastics and work. They are honest, well organized
people, who tend toward a conservative disposition.


DISPOSITION:

The Moon in Leo marks one with a proud disposition. This person
has a strong desire to be the center of attention and will
frequently engage in acts of showmanship to capture it, even
forsaking danger to stay in the "spotlight". The native is always
fond of pleasing others. Usually, this person has a keen interest in
self-improvement as well as improving the lot of friends and society
as a whole. One may thus engage in work and activities which
beautify both the personal as well as the world at large.
Moon conjunct Mars indicates intense feelings which can result in
a short temper, jealousy, or emotional frustration if they are not
checked by reason. Impulsive and aggressive, Natives can accomplish
much if properly channeled.


MENTALITY:

With Mercury in Sagittarius, natives tend to focus their mental
energy on emotions and attitudes rather than facts. They have a
great desire to understand the motivations and actions of friends as
well as all society and should learn when it's better to "butt out"
of other people's business. Generally, natives are big-minded and
strive for intellectual greatness and status. This may lead them,
though, into conformity with society as a whole, and their ideas,
though popular with all around them, may not be entirely original or
valid.
Mercury conjunct Neptune natives are extremely romantic and
impressionable. They are definitely not logically oriented but
possess creative talent which may manifest itself in art or music.
They tend to be deceptive.
Mercury sextile Pluto confers a penetrating mind and an
exceptional concentration to natives which enables them to
comprehend the inner workings of complex systems. They are also
inventive and eloquent in speech.


AFFECTIONS:

With Venus in Capricorn, natives take their emotions and
affections very seriously, and see marriage and long-term
relationships as the means for a feeling of security. There is
definitely a sense of dignity in the way these people comport
themselves in public; in private, however, they are demonstrative
and open to loved ones. Generally, natives seek companions whom they
think will improve their station in life, they may thus use loved
ones unintentionally. Prestige and wealth are common to those whom
natives care about.
Venus conjunct Sun confers strong romantic drives in natives as
much of their energy goes into love. They are good looking,
affectionate, cheerful people who have little difficulty in
attracting the opposite sex.
Venus opposite Jupiter natives can be ostentatious and may have
been spoiled as children. They love luxury and tend to be vain. They
must resist the temptation to indulge in food and escapism (perhaps
television).
Venus trine Saturn confers loyalty and faithfulness to its
natives. They are dependable and hard workers who have heightened
powers of conceptualizing. They tend to grow on people as their
spiritual beauty is slowly revealed.


PERSONALITY:

With Scorpio on the Ascendent, natives' personality is marked by
stoicism and self-control. Inwardly, they have great courage and
determination which manifests itself by their strong work ethic.
They may tend, though, to be too critical of others and may drive
them as hard as they drive themselves. Natives sometimes even feel
guilty about just relaxing instead of doing something. Generally,
these people are adept at getting what they want since they know how
to bargain for what they truly desire. As a rule, natives have
little trouble attracting both friends and lovers. Further, there is
a tendency to engage in many different intimate relationships before
giving their heart. There is also a great desire to be respected by
friends and loved ones.
With Uranus in the First House, natives display a very
individualistic personality, usually differing from the
"mainstream". Also, they don't hesitate to voice their usually
original ideas even though they may offend others.


GENERAL INFORMATION:

A balanced number of planets in Fire Signs in the native's chart
indicates a blending of realism and compromise, making for a
diplomatic yet assertive individual.
A balancing of the Earth elements in the natal chart gives
practicality and common sense to all endeavors undertaken.
With a lack of planets in Air signs, the native is inclined to let
emotions rule actions, and have difficulty in expressing true
feelings.
Furthermore, an average number of planets in Water elements
indicates a person with considerable ability to express sympathy and
emotion to others.
With many planets in Cardinal modalities, a person is capable of
acting alone, and usually has a good grasp on the world and its
realities.

Silver Venus
September 5th, 2001, 10:21 AM
All that from just a time, date and place!
Thank you sooooooo much!! I really appreciate it allot!! :D :sunny:

I totally get allot of it ~ but confused by others parts ~ the ones I dont agree with! ;)
Is it all on time and place of birth?
When I read about big-headed... I though.. Ooo maybe my mum told me my birth time wrong! lol ~ would this affect the reading a bit! lol.. because I dont think Im big headed at all! lol... why do we always try and fight the negative! :D

Id love to give you feedback on all points! But its so long Im afraid youd fall asleep! what do you think? :)

Its so strange too because I felt very fire, water and earth but never air ~ I have a few air friends but in tarot and general (apart from my friends!) Im not an air person at all! which figures now!

So can you tell from that ~ which are my strong planets or signs?
and what my houses are in? Because that is what confuses me the most :D

Thank you again from the bottom of my heart ~ that was so nice of you!!!
Can I prepay with a reading in tarot? :D

Swanspirit
September 5th, 2001, 10:45 AM
This is a "quick over view" and an interpretation isnt always exact, and other factors intervene...... the little program that generates these is really good for general information but it doesnt tell you about how say Sun opposite Jupiter doesnt always mean inflated egos..... and on a deeper level it means that your over all life path (SUN) is sometimes in conflict with how you deal with the world at large (JUPITER).
Generally , the interpretation also doesnt tell you that where one area may indeed have this type of manifestion in one person in YOU it might be completely offset or overridden by some other aspect of your chart.
Generally though, Capricorns are conservative and dont like to make a "scene", where as moon in LEO loves to be out there shining ..... so a resolution would be a much more outgoiing Cappie than would be "expected" if that makes sense , but one with style and class :>.. if a teeensy bit old fashioned :>> and liking it that way ,,,, more of a "traditional thing " LOL
HUGS
Swannie

Silver Venus
September 5th, 2001, 10:52 AM
Thats more me! & I like that :D I always said I was too outgoing to be a Capricorn! So I have a strong Leo sign in my table? Thats great ~ Ive only got one Leo friend and she's really nice :) Bit stubborn though ;)

Can you please tell me my houses? and strong star signs? thats what confuses and really interest me :sunny:

I'll do a reading for you in a while in the Celtic Cross spread! Give me an hour because Im currently working on something else.. but by then I will have it for you :D

Swanspirit
September 5th, 2001, 11:08 AM
The houses are already there ...... in the nunerical portion of the post look fo r the sections oh heck let me just paste it in so you cant miss it ....HOUSE: HOUSE CUSP:
1 03 SCO 35
2 03 SAG 20
3 01 CAP 20
4 29 CAP 28
5 29 AQU 37
6 01 ARI 46
7 03 TAU 35
8 03 GEM 20
9 01 CAN 20
10 29 CAN 28
11 29 LEO 37
12 01 LIB 46
those are your houses starting from the first to the twelfth ........, you are Scorpio ASC, which means you intensity surprises even YOU sometimes but you are deeply knowledgeable about things you NEVER mention LOL....

and here are the planet placements .....
as you can see you also have MARS conjunct which means very close or within less than ten degrees apart.... to your Moon in LEO.... so you have incredible energy but can have a temper but never for any reason less than a purely noble cause :>

Sun 06 CAP 22 23 S 17 3 NO
Moon 05 LEO 43 14 N 27 10 NO
Mercury 22 SAG 17 20 S 06 2 YES
Venus 00 CAP 22 23 S 35 2 NO
Mars 09 LEO 58 21 N 20 10 YES
Jupiter 00 CAN 22 23 N 13 8 YES
Saturn 00 VIR 16 12 N 41 11 YES
Uranus 15 SCO 08 16 S 00 1 NO
Neptune 16 SAG 37 21 S 22 2 NO
Pluto 16 LIB 34 09 N 07 12 NO
Ascendant 03 SCO 35 N/A 1 N/A
MidHeaven 29 CAN 28 N/A 10 N/A
and dont worry about a reading in return ...... I love this ..........
Swannie

Silver Venus
September 5th, 2001, 11:23 AM
That is so true :) :D So when you talk about houses ~ Im a Scoripio ASC !! and so on :)
Ill try and have a look at the lessons here when I have some more time! Can you recommend any for finding out about all my houses and planets?

& can you tell me if my bf and I are compatible ~ he's a cancer! my opposite! Born 13/7/1978 (dont know time or place sorry)

Oh please let me read for you :) I love to too :D

Swanspirit
September 5th, 2001, 11:32 AM
Combining two charts .... two hearts..... can tell you alot ......... maybe I should just start a synastry thread ...........but lots of people want to know about Synastry......
LOL
Swannie

Silver Venus
September 5th, 2001, 11:42 AM
That sounds like good fun you should!
I just also thought about chinesse horoscopes ~ im a snake...sssss..lol!
Maybe we could start somehting on that too?
:)

Litha
September 5th, 2001, 01:42 PM
You're a SNAKE!
me 2 :D
I am having a way busy but much fabu year; are you?

Silver Venus
September 6th, 2001, 06:58 AM
Yeah, its been pretty good so far! I havent really been up to date with reading my horocope for the months gone but I did go a hunting for my Chinesse horcope book last night and remembering my friend has borrowed it. So as soon as I get that back I would love to read up again!
I just did a quick search and found this site http://www.chinatownhi.com/snake.html
Im a fire snake so this fugures! :D
Fire - Conquers/controls Metal. A good year for those of the Fire element. Metal is melted with heat. Great profit and wealth possible with strong monetary instincts. A cunning year with a deeply romantic core.
:sunny:

Methanespirit
September 6th, 2001, 08:32 AM
Sil' , your birth place given is in the northwest portion of the Amazon jungle, on the banks of the Jari River in the Brizillian state of Amapa. Is this correct? Although I'm looking at an old map of the area, there are no towns or cities there. (Maybe the latitude and longitude values are reversed.) "Muito abrigado"! hugs -------methane.

Silver Venus
September 6th, 2001, 08:39 AM
Lol, That is so sweet of you but I was born and bread here in the Uk so there are no brazlian jungles around here.. at least I dont think so ;)

Swanspirit
September 6th, 2001, 11:06 AM
me: Silver Venus
Born: 12-28-1977 at 5:15 AM TimeZone: GMT+0 [Standard Time]
Longitude: 001W52 Latitude: 53N45
Birth Julian Day: 2443505.72 GMST: 11:41 LMST: 11:34

NATAL ECLIPTIC LONGITUDE AND EQUATORIAL DECLINATION :

LONGITUDE: DECLINATION: HOUSE: RETROGRADE:
Sun 06 CAP 22 23 S 17 2 NO
Moon 05 LEO 43 14 N 27 8 NO
Mercury 22 SAG 17 20 S 06 1 YES
Venus 00 CAP 22 23 S 35 2 NO
Mars 09 LEO 58 21 N 20 8 YES
Jupiter 00 CAN 22 23 N 13 8 YES
Saturn 00 VIR 16 12 N 41 9 YES
Uranus 15 SCO 08 16 S 00 12 NO
Neptune 16 SAG 37 21 S 22 1 NO
Pluto 16 LIB 34 09 N 07 10 NO
Ascendant 26 SCO 55 N/A 1 N/A
MidHeaven 22 VIR 52 N/A 10 N/A

PLANETARY ASPECTS :

Sun Conjunct Venus Orb = 5° 59'
Sun Opposite Jupiter Orb = 6° 00'
Sun Trine Saturn Orb = 6° 05'
Moon Conjunct Mars Orb = 4° 15'
Mercury Conjunct Neptune Orb = 5° 40'
Mercury Sextile Pluto Orb = 5° 43'
Mercury Square MidHeaven Orb = 0° 35'
Venus Opposite Jupiter Orb = 0° 01'
Venus Trine Saturn Orb = 0° 06'
Mars Square Uranus Orb = 5° 10'
Mars Trine Neptune Orb = 6° 39'
Mars Sextile Pluto Orb = 6° 36'
Jupiter Sextile Saturn Orb = 0° 05'
Saturn Square Ascendant Orb = 3° 21'
Neptune Sextile Pluto Orb = 0° 03'
Neptune Square MidHeaven Orb = 6° 15'

NOTE: The Ascendent is the first House Cusp.
The Midheaven is the tenth House Cusp.

HOUSE CUSPS FOR THE PLACIDUS SYSTEM :
HOUSE: HOUSE CUSP:
1 26 SCO 55
2 29 SAG 45
3 12 AQU 44
4 22 PIS 52
5 21 ARI 09
6 11 TAU 16
7 26 TAU 55
8 29 GEM 45
9 12 LEO 44
10 22 VIR 52
11 21 LIB 09
12 11 SCO 16

ELEMENTS :
FIRE Moon Mercury Mars Neptune
EARTH Sun Venus Saturn MidHeaven
AIR Pluto
WATER Jupiter Uranus Ascendant

MODALITIES :
CARDINAL Sun Venus Jupiter Pluto
FIXED Moon Mars Uranus Ascendant
MUTABLE Mercury Saturn Neptune MidHeaven

PARALLEL ASPECTS :
Sun PARALLEL Jupiter 0° 04'
Venus PARALLEL Jupiter 0° 22'
Mars PARALLEL Neptune 0° 01'

Here is the data with the latitude and longitude in the correct order .......... that is what I get for fiddling with my little atlas on the program LOL...lets get you out of that jungle and back in England LOL..........
but the weird thing is it didnt change the ASC except for the degree so some of the house placements of the planets might be different but we didnt get that far yet......
Love and light
Swannie

Silver Venus
September 6th, 2001, 11:12 AM
Sory to be duh but does this alter it at all.. all the numbers in the houses look very diferent?
What went wrong?
Im sorry to take up more of your time :)

Silver Venus
September 6th, 2001, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by Swanspirit
you are Scorpio ASC, which means you intensity surprises even YOU sometimes but you are deeply knowledgeable about things you NEVER mention LOL....

and here are the planet placements .....
as you can see you also have MARS conjunct which means very close or within less than ten degrees apart.... to your Moon in LEO.... so you have incredible energy but can have a temper but never for any reason less than a purely noble cause :>



Sorry ~ I should of been more clear ~ Is this true still? :)
Thank you in advance

Swanspirit
September 6th, 2001, 11:58 AM
it is true still :> ( jumps at the chance for a lesson LOL) actually this is how many people learn as we go...mistakes and all .....
The horoscope is drawn in a circle ...... so there are 360 degrees ...... there 12 houses so each house has 30 degrees .....
you still with me ??
So when the "Circle or horoscope" is drawn ....... where the houses begin and end "cusp" have a degree between one and thirty ....
While before the nember said Scorpio 3 degrees it is now Scorpio 26 degrees...... stil in the SIGN Scorpio but at a later degree, which makes things bit differnt in the finer tuning for our purposes right now is not a large problem :> OK??????
HUGS
Swannie

Silver Venus
September 7th, 2001, 06:06 AM
Whew :) I was getting all confused there! Thanks for clearing that up :D

So what should I do now? Sorry to act like a dumb wit... should I go through the lessons? Starting with which? :)

Swanspirit
September 8th, 2001, 02:36 PM
are not acting like a dumb wit at all ......
I am sorry for the confusion , this stuff is diificult enough without me adding to it !!!!LOL
If you like you can read the lesson on
the houses, or you can type Scorpio rising into your search engine and see what other astrologers have to say ...........or both :>
HUGS
Swannie

IOLO
September 12th, 2001, 02:22 PM
Your Geocentricity.....

Have you done charts yet on the World Trade Center and Pentagon?

If so....would you mind forwarding them to me?...at my work e-mail addy.....I won't be able to get to the computer with my Solar Fire on it until this weekend....(my brother is stuck in Florida!!!)

Der IOLOmann

Swanspirit
September 12th, 2001, 02:24 PM
but I will happy to send it..... still cant start a new thread eh??
HUGS
Swannina

Silver Venus
September 13th, 2001, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by Swanspirit
are not acting like a dumb wit at all ......
I am sorry for the confusion , this stuff is diificult enough without me adding to it !!!!LOL
If you like you can read the lesson on
the houses, or you can type Scorpio rising into your search engine and see what other astrologers have to say ...........or both :>
HUGS
Swannie

Thanks for all your help and time Swannie! :)
Ill check it all out today! and try my best to get through the lessons.

Love, light and Peace for all the world :sunny:

Silver Venus
September 13th, 2001, 06:06 AM
Sorry to keep on at this.. Im just worried I still havent got my correct chart.. I just filled in the free chart at www.astrology.com

http://reports.astrology.com/free/2527/8702/gif1.html

and it says Im an ascendant of Cancer?
Very confused now...
I was born 5.15 pm GMT time...

Thanks again for helping me on this.. Im sure Ill get there one day! :)

Peace