Can I please get a reading?

[ChaosRayne]

I need a love reading, I have an issue here that's driving me up a wall.
I am trying to read myself but I am still learning and my feelings are getting in the way of the truth.

Can anyone help me?

Thanks.

[LisaT4P]

Can you post the reading you already did? That way we can help you interpret the spread, you'll probably be able to learn more from it that way. :)

[ChaosRayne]

Can you post the reading you already did? That way we can help you interpret the spread, you'll probably be able to learn more from it that way. :)

Thanks Lisa here is what I got.

I did the celtic heart spread.

Here are the spread positions:
Her
1 – Her basic soul self now/ Page of Pentacles-R
2 – Pressing issues, positive and negative/Queen of Swords
3 – Her gift from him/6 of Swords-R
4 – Her gift to him/7 of Pents-R
5 – Personal soul growth necessary for her/Queen of wands-R
Him
6 – His basic soul self now/ Knight of Pents
7 – Pressing issues, positive and negative/3 of cups
8 – His gift to her/ Page of Cups
9 – His gift from her/ King of wands-R
10 – Personal soul growth necessary for him/ Ace of Cups
The Relationship
11 – Snapshot of the infant relationship/Death-R
12 – Bond/the karmic tie that binds/ 4 of swords
13 – Lessons for relationship growth/ Page of wands-R
14 – Lessons for relationship growth/ Temperance
15 – Lessons for relationship growth/Wheel of fortune-R
16 – Blessing for the future / The empress
(Note: This card can be indicative of a wonderful experience / lesson or of one that is viewed as negative at the time, but either way it will ultimately be realized as beneficial.)


Let me know what you can get out of this.

thanks a bunch!

[Kadynas]

That's an awesome spread! Thanks for sharing. :)

[hamletincarnate]

chaos ... if you would like a reading, pm me and we could exchange. i could use a relationship reading myself. until then, good luck... i've been going through confusion and frustration and reading for myself has been hard, just like you said. i soooooo understand. i hope your heart can be at peace.

[Gareth]

Well, this is a big one! :) I won't be able to get it right this minute, but I'll get back to it later in the day when I'm not doing my "morning rush" thing.

Oops, this is really Lisa, I accidentally signed on as Gareth! :holycow:

[LisaT4P]

At first glance I'm seeing that there are WAY too many other people influencing you guys in this. There are 7 court cards in this spread, and while I don't necessarily think each one represents a different person, on the whole I find it signifcant that almost half the cards are courts. My first question is, are you talking more to other people about the relationship than you are to him?

Her
1 – Her basic soul self now/ Page of Pentacles-R
I'm thinking that maybe there are some messages being ignored. The basic needs of the body and soul are not being met.

2 – Pressing issues, positive and negative/Queen of Swords
Logic and too much analyzing may be getting in the way of actually "feeling" things.

3 – Her gift from him/6 of Swords-R
It seems like her gift from him is nothing. She feels as though she gains nothing or is not worthy of the relationship.

4 – Her gift to him/7 of Pents-R
She tries to help him grow, but she is being smothering and therefore ends up stunting the growth instead of helping.

5 – Personal soul growth necessary for her/Queen of wands-R
Let go of the manipulative instincts. Trying to control him and the relationship is not going to work.

Him
6 – His basic soul self now/ Knight of Pents
He is just an earthy guy. He can seem a bit dull at times because of his practicality and he's sensual in a more understated way than the other Knights.

7 – Pressing issues, positive and negative/3 of cups
He just wants to have fun. He isn't taking anything too seriously and just wants to have a good time.

8 – His gift to her/ Page of Cups
The love is there and being offered, the joy of youthful fun and exuberance. Again, nothing to be taken seriously.

9 – His gift from her/ King of wands-R
He is feeling his gift from her is in trying to keep him contained. Not allowing him to breathe and be passionate about things. This is also a "manipulative" card.

10 – Personal soul growth necessary for him/ Ace of Cups
He needs to give himself up to love, of all different kinds. I'm not sure if this is because of the "I've been hurt before" syndrome or because he just has truly never experienced it before.

The Relationship
11 – Snapshot of the infant relationship/Death-R
Changes are happening and they are scary. The resistance to change is present. Not wanting to go with the flow of the relationship and instead wanting it to be status-quo.

12 – Bond/the karmic tie that binds/ 4 of swords
Stagnation, rest, staying in one place and not moving forward. Not sure how that applies to the position meaning though. Perhaps if these 2 stay together they will not grow and move forward.

13 – Lessons for relationship growth/ Page of wands-R
Stop playing childish game of "he said, she said" and "but he/she broke the rules first". Time to let all that go and progress past it.

14 – Lessons for relationship growth/ Temperance
Everything in moderation. This card is also about synthesis. Mixing oil and water is hard work, but you eventually end with salad dressing, which is a nicer thing than either are alone. Learn to blend.

15 – Lessons for relationship growth/Wheel of fortune-R
Things may be turning for the worst right now, but eventually the Wheel always rights itself. This too shall pass.

16 – Blessing for the future / The empress
(Note: This card can be indicative of a wonderful experience / lesson or of one that is viewed as negative at the time, but either way it will ultimately be realized as beneficial.)
Creativity. Come together in ways that will be new and enjoyable to both parties. Relationships take alot of work to make them last, they are NOT easy in spite of what Hollywood tries to tell us. Creatvity and sensuality will pay off in the end.

[ChaosRayne]

At first glance I'm seeing that there are WAY too many other people influencing you guys in this. There are 7 court cards in this spread, and while I don't necessarily think each one represents a different person, on the whole I find it signifcant that almost half the cards are courts. My first question is, are you talking more to other people about the relationship than you are to him?

Her
1 – Her basic soul self now/ Page of Pentacles-R
I'm thinking that maybe there are some messages being ignored. The basic needs of the body and soul are not being met.

2 – Pressing issues, positive and negative/Queen of Swords
Logic and too much analyzing may be getting in the way of actually "feeling" things.

3 – Her gift from him/6 of Swords-R
It seems like her gift from him is nothing. She feels as though she gains nothing or is not worthy of the relationship.

4 – Her gift to him/7 of Pents-R
She tries to help him grow, but she is being smothering and therefore ends up stunting the growth instead of helping.

5 – Personal soul growth necessary for her/Queen of wands-R
Let go of the manipulative instincts. Trying to control him and the relationship is not going to work.

Him
6 – His basic soul self now/ Knight of Pents
He is just an earthy guy. He can seem a bit dull at times because of his practicality and he's sensual in a more understated way than the other Knights.

7 – Pressing issues, positive and negative/3 of cups
He just wants to have fun. He isn't taking anything too seriously and just wants to have a good time.

8 – His gift to her/ Page of Cups
The love is there and being offered, the joy of youthful fun and exuberance. Again, nothing to be taken seriously.

9 – His gift from her/ King of wands-R
He is feeling his gift from her is in trying to keep him contained. Not allowing him to breathe and be passionate about things. This is also a "manipulative" card.

10 – Personal soul growth necessary for him/ Ace of Cups
He needs to give himself up to love, of all different kinds. I'm not sure if this is because of the "I've been hurt before" syndrome or because he just has truly never experienced it before.

The Relationship
11 – Snapshot of the infant relationship/Death-R
Changes are happening and they are scary. The resistance to change is present. Not wanting to go with the flow of the relationship and instead wanting it to be status-quo.

12 – Bond/the karmic tie that binds/ 4 of swords
Stagnation, rest, staying in one place and not moving forward. Not sure how that applies to the position meaning though. Perhaps if these 2 stay together they will not grow and move forward.

13 – Lessons for relationship growth/ Page of wands-R
Stop playing childish game of "he said, she said" and "but he/she broke the rules first". Time to let all that go and progress past it.

14 – Lessons for relationship growth/ Temperance
Everything in moderation. This card is also about synthesis. Mixing oil and water is hard work, but you eventually end with salad dressing, which is a nicer thing than either are alone. Learn to blend.

15 – Lessons for relationship growth/Wheel of fortune-R
Things may be turning for the worst right now, but eventually the Wheel always rights itself. This too shall pass.

16 – Blessing for the future / The empress
(Note: This card can be indicative of a wonderful experience / lesson or of one that is viewed as negative at the time, but either way it will ultimately be realized as beneficial.)
Creativity. Come together in ways that will be new and enjoyable to both parties. Relationships take alot of work to make them last, they are NOT easy in spite of what Hollywood tries to tell us. Creatvity and sensuality will pay off in the end.

Thanks Lisa,

Answering your question, I was at one point looking for advice of others but then I started
withdrawing from everyone and just went into a "cave" sorta speak and started shutting everything out. Basically massive depression.

In terms of message, I sensed that I was missing messages that were being given to me,
I didn't or still don't know how to be open to them to receive them. I know they are out there.
There is hinderance through my disconnection w/ everyone and I am trying to get back into the real world sorta speak. I am huge with the overanalyzing thing.
I have felt at times that he has nothing to offer me anymore or even questioning that he ever did.
In terms of smothering I was big on that. I don't think I am now since we really don't communicate anymore.

The manipulative thing, was a big wow. I didn't realize I was doing that until you pointed it out. I can't believe that. Here I was accusing him of the same!

My concern with him that he's taking the fun to another woman and that's not cool, unable to confirm though. Ok but after reading this I do understand your point as he told me this before.

I do have a problem with change, I am not sure about him but I definately do.

on the 12th, stagnation. We aren't going anywhere. That's what I was afraid of.
Wondering we if aren't right for eachother now.

I really appreciate you reading them for me.

I will tell you what I got out of them now, let me know what you think.

I will do a new post for that.

CR

[ChaosRayne]

That's an awesome spread! Thanks for sharing. :)

Anytime, Now all I have to do is learn to read them then I am all set! :)

Thanks.

[LisaT4P]

No problem CR! I'd like to point out that maybe you should really be reading about this:In terms of message, I sensed that I was missing messages that were being given to me, I didn't or still don't know how to be open to them to receive them. I know they are out there.That might clear up a whole bunch of things for you! Although, I'd recommend a smaller spread for that. This one was a bit complicated.

Perhaps something like:

1. What is my body's message?
2. What is my mind's message?
3. What is my spirit's message?
4. What is Deity's message?
5. How can I integrate this advice into my life?

Something along those lines might be very useful. :)

[ChaosRayne]

No problem CR! I'd like to point out that maybe you should really be reading about this:That might clear up a whole bunch of things for you! Although, I'd recommend a smaller spread for that. This one was a bit complicated.

Perhaps something like:

1. What is my body's message?
2. What is my mind's message?
3. What is my spirit's message?
4. What is Deity's message?
5. How can I integrate this advice into my life?

Something along those lines might be very useful. :)

Thanks Lisa for the new spread and suggestion I will give it a whirl.

I am pacing myself on the big reading over here. :)

I will let you know how that turns out!

CR

[Gareth]

Well, this is a big one! :) I won't be able to get it right this minute, but I'll get back to it later in the day when I'm not doing my "morning rush" thing.

Oops, this is really Lisa, I accidentally signed on as Gareth! :holycow:

:geez: Goofball!! :alol:

[ChaosRayne]

Imagine what I was thinking when I read it! Ha ha. :abanana: