Psychic Vampirism/Energy Absorption

[Luminessence]

I checked, and there were a few threads on this subject, but they all seemed to be from 2001 or 2002, so I thought I should probably just start a new one.

So what do you think of psychic vampirism/energy absorption? Don't believe in it at all? Think it's not supernatural at all, but just unpleasant people? Think psychic vampires are bad people to be stayed away from at all costs? Think psychic vampirism is something they choose? Something inborn? Or maybe results from childhood issues? Are you a psychic vampire yourself? If so, what are your views on the ethics of energy absorption?

There seem to be a ton of opinions out there about psychic vampires, which is why I'm asking. I've seen all of the above opinions, and then some. My personal view is that psychic vampirism is generally something inborn. I think psychic vampires are often unfairly maligned; yes, there are harmful ones that are perfectly aware of what they're doing, but I think most of the harmful ones are doing it unconsciously.

So, what do you think?

[Threase]

I checked, and there were a few threads on this subject, but they all seemed to be from 2001 or 2002, so I thought I should probably just start a new one.

So what do you think of psychic vampirism/energy absorption? Don't believe in it at all? Think it's not supernatural at all, but just unpleasant people? Think psychic vampires are bad people to be stayed away from at all costs? Think psychic vampirism is something they choose? Something inborn? Or maybe results from childhood issues? Are you a psychic vampire yourself? If so, what are your views on the ethics of energy absorption?

There seem to be a ton of opinions out there about psychic vampires, which is why I'm asking. I've seen all of the above opinions, and then some. My personal view is that psychic vampirism is generally something inborn. I think psychic vampires are often unfairly maligned; yes, there are harmful ones that are perfectly aware of what they're doing, but I think most of the harmful ones are doing it unconsciously.

So, what do you think?

I agree with you. I've known a few psychic vampires in my life, and only one of them knew what they were. Of course, he was a Satanist and didn't mind draining other people lol...

[BrigidMoon]

Good question. I agree with you to an extent. Many empaths steal energy too, sometimes unaware. My child does it when she's overly tired yet not ready to rest. Some people you can feel it as they talk to you - just energy slipping away from you. It's weird. I try and ground myself and put up a circle to block mentally - it seems to help. Sometimes too well and people dont even see me it seems!

[mucgwyrt]

Good question. I agree with you to an extent. Many empaths steal energy too, sometimes unaware. My child does it when she's overly tired yet not ready to rest. Some people you can feel it as they talk to you - just energy slipping away from you. It's weird. I try and ground myself and put up a circle to block mentally - it seems to help. Sometimes too well and people dont even see me it seems!
I agree with Brigid. It's not only people who are "out to suck your energy" but people who dont have enough of their own and do it subconsciously. People who need it to fuel anger, people who need it to fuel arguments, people who need it to "pick themselves up" in the same way tired people use coffee because they have low self esteem - loads of stuff. In my experience it doesn't even have to be you they're angry at! :lol:

[spirit wind]

What is it? I have never heard of it before.
Is it like you are feeling fine and then someone comes along or you are with someone and you start feeling drained?

[mucgwyrt]

What is it? I have never heard of it before.
Is it like you are feeling fine and then someone comes along or you are with someone and you start feeling drained?
Yup

[spirit wind]

Yup
Oh! I have a friend that does that to me!

Now i'm fascinated, must go read up on this.

Thanks

[VeraLynn]

Good question. I agree with you to an extent. Many empaths steal energy too, sometimes unaware. My child does it when she's overly tired yet not ready to rest. Some people you can feel it as they talk to you - just energy slipping away from you. It's weird. I try and ground myself and put up a circle to block mentally - it seems to help. Sometimes too well and people dont even see me it seems!
I started using the mental blocks after I figured out what was going on, too. Also, certain crystal properties can help. I think tourmalines are good for blocking it, especially black; one of my books says that the black tourmaline won't even let the vampire get close enough to suck energy from you. Also, green aventurine is a special protector to guard against vampirism of heart energy. One of my friends whom I believe possesses this tendency to soak up my energy has not even tried to contact me since I started using my green aventurine and black tourmaline.
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[BabblingImp]

Yes I have had the same experience. Espcally in school, I had a friend that would drag the lightness out of me, (And any happiness I felt!) It was interesting to watch as soon as I put a 'ring' of energy around myself she stopped talking to me. I also think I have the problem of giving too much so I have to graud myself every where I go.

[Tisiphone]

I'm a Psy-Vampire, mostly people don't realize they're being drained, most psy-vamps don't take enough to hurt someone, just enough to go on to the next person. I do is Subconsciously, or I can make my self do it. I don't like to harm other people, it's jst what I am.
It's something I'm proud of. What I am complete contradicts what I believe in. But it is what i am.

[mucgwyrt]

I'm a Psy-Vampire, mostly people don't realize they're being drained, most psy-vamps don't take enough to hurt someone, just enough to go on to the next person. I do is Subconsciously, or I can make my self do it. I don't like to harm other people, it's jst what I am.
It's not something I'm proud of. What I am complete contradicts what I believe in.
Do you look for ways to overcome doing it subconsciously?
You may say its not enough to harm people, but perhaps it is and you just dont see the after-effect :(

[Tisiphone]

Do you look for ways to overcome doing it subconsciously?
You may say its not enough to harm people, but perhaps it is and you just dont see the after-effect :(
To tell you the truth, I'm almost sure it doesn't harm people, at least that I don't, it's not enough energy to even put a dent in their normal energy patterns. If anything it makes a person light headed, and bubbly, usually I prey on "unhappy" energy, it's soemthing i'm sure no one will miss. Although some people say not to do this.
I seen cases were people are harmed, i don't let my self do that.
Stoping my self from doing, I've tried it's not something i feel i have control over.
I've run into other psy who do the same thing, i guess if i went out to hurt someone it's possible. I've seen people drain another's energy to the point of passing out, but i've never tried it or had the urge to.
I've also heard of people who believe they're immortal, that when they die the energy they've taken will keep them alive after death. I don't believe in this, i beleive when you die you die, that's it.
I was a subconscious psy-vampire for a long time, i actually stumbled upon myself doing it, if that makes any sense. People've told me that i have "tendrils" and sometimes i can see the trendrils. That's how I found out what i was.
I actually taught my self to do it consciously, more as an experiment.

(editing typos XD)

[Tisiphone]

Death by energy absorbtion? There's been a few sites i've visited about this, I myself think it's wrong, but others think that' it's possible, I'd never try it myself.
If you think about it everyone is a psy-vampire, some "need" the energy other's borrow it. If you're in a bad mood and your friend is in a good one, doesn't it "rub off"?

[Valnorran]

I've never personally experienced it, but I'm willing to accept the idea. Of course, I tend to keep people, even those I like, at arm's length, so maybe that affords me some resistance. I tend to keep a "wall" around me.

[Tisiphone]

I think the best way to protect yourself from a psy vampire, is to put up a wall. Make a mental door way with only one key, or just a plane wall. I've got a clensing ritual to get rid of tendrils and anything left behind by a psy somewhere I'll find it and post it if you'd like?

[Tisiphone]

Interesting atricle about vampirism: http://www.llewellynjournal.com/article/513

[Morgandria]

Some people are genuinely deficient and need the energy they take when feeding - vampires. Some "vampires" are just people who discovered they could get a rise out of someone, and steal that energy...and that's a pranic addiction. I think most of the "vampires" out there are just people with pranic addictions. They don't really need the energy, they just want it, and eventually crave it...and they really may not be aware that they're taking it from people.

-M.

[LittleRhiannon]

Yep, I used to know one even. They weren't out to mess people up or anything, but just couldnt get enough on their own.

[Tisiphone]

Most psychic vampires (spelled psi-vampire or psy-vampire, sorry, it's just that i see so many spellings XD) don't do it on purpose or even know they're doing it. most people will probably end up dieing never knowing that's what they're doing. There's no way to prove that pranic addiction comes in to play with these people who don't know. If you don't know you are doing it, how do you become addicted?

[Valnorran]

I think the best way to protect yourself from a psy vampire, is to put up a wall. Make a mental door way with only one key, or just a plane wall. I've got a clensing ritual to get rid of tendrils and anything left behind by a psy somewhere I'll find it and post it if you'd like?
That's all right. I'm just a natural misanthrope!

[mucgwyrt]

Some people are genuinely deficient and need the energy they take when feeding - vampires. Some "vampires" are just people who discovered they could get a rise out of someone, and steal that energy...and that's a pranic addiction. I think most of the "vampires" out there are just people with pranic addictions. They don't really need the energy, they just want it, and eventually crave it...and they really may not be aware that they're taking it from people.

-M.
Call me a scrooge, but I think people should respect that other people's energy is their own.
I have m.e./cfs and I dont leech energy from people, and I'd be bloody livid if I knew someone was doing it from me on purpose! :lol:

[wintermagick]

What about PVs who actually believe they are the most positive individuals in the world? I only know one person I could truly call a psychic vampire, yet she *really* believes she RADIATES positive energy.

Hmmmm.... :noway:

[mucgwyrt]

What about PVs who actually believe they are the most positive individuals in the world? I only know one person I could truly call a psychic vampire, yet she *really* believes she RADIATES positive energy.

Hmmmm.... :noway:
:rotfl: yeah, everyone elses positive energy!

[AugustFirst]

I checked, and there were a few threads on this subject, but they all seemed to be from 2001 or 2002, so I thought I should probably just start a new one.

So what do you think of psychic vampirism/energy absorption? Don't believe in it at all? Think it's not supernatural at all, but just unpleasant people? Think psychic vampires are bad people to be stayed away from at all costs? Think psychic vampirism is something they choose? Something inborn? Or maybe results from childhood issues? Are you a psychic vampire yourself? If so, what are your views on the ethics of energy absorption?

There seem to be a ton of opinions out there about psychic vampires, which is why I'm asking. I've seen all of the above opinions, and then some. My personal view is that psychic vampirism is generally something inborn. I think psychic vampires are often unfairly maligned; yes, there are harmful ones that are perfectly aware of what they're doing, but I think most of the harmful ones are doing it unconsciously.

So, what do you think?
This is a great post! I could never put my finger on it, but there are SEVERAL people who do this to me CONSTANTLY!
I am always left dumbfounded.
Any ideas on how to prevent it, besides avoidance of them?
I am going to be following this thread!
Thanks.

[mucgwyrt]

This is a great post! I could never put my finger on it, but there are SEVERAL people who do this to me CONSTANTLY!
I am always left dumbfounded.
Any ideas on how to prevent it, besides avoidance of them?
I am going to be following this thread!
Thanks.
CzechWoods says Black Tourmaline is very good, although I've not tried it yet.

[aerialla]

I know that I have sucked energy from people on a couple different occassions before I learned what it was, but on another occassion some friends and I were celebrating Samhain last year and the eight other people that was in our cast circle said they could feel my energy radiating through them and back to me like a chain. My husband, bless his Christian heart one night walked in when I was preparing to cast a circle and he said he felt like he ran into a brick wall.

My point is I think that at certain times we all give and take of each other's energy. Some unconciously. I know that there have been times when I have needed an energy boost like when I found out my aunt had three months to live (colon cancer unoperatable). I went to the mall and just walked around for awhile trying to catch some vibrations from the people that were shopping. I only stayed for about a half an hour but it was enough to take some of the edge off. There will be a lot of people that say this is wrong, but I try to give back just as much as I take. :braindrai

[sweet nothings]

I'm the opposite of a psychic vampire, I'm a giver of sorts. I constantly give up my energy to others...it can be a bugger sometimes though. Imagine giving to someone who seconds later becomes hyper while you slump over on the couch...lol

[Seren_]

This is a great post! I could never put my finger on it, but there are SEVERAL people who do this to me CONSTANTLY!
I am always left dumbfounded.
Any ideas on how to prevent it, besides avoidance of them?
I am going to be following this thread!
Thanks.

Draw in and shield your aura...like the "wall" some people describe.

To draw in your aura, "feel" how far your aura spreads from your body...take a few deep breaths - in, out - and as you do this, feel your aura expand and contract in the rhythm with your breathing.

Keep breathing and visualising your aura getting smaller, until it's only an inch or so from your body (naturally, it actually spreads a few feet, although when most people see auras they see the densest part closest to the body). Or, if you're good at feeling/visualising things, simply see your aura "shrink-wrapping" around your body, so it's real close.

What you're doing is effectively compressing the aura. This makes it harder for psychic vamps, or anyone, to a) sense your presence (astrally/energetically) and b) get their hooks into you. This will also help those people who tend to be too giving...it will encourage self-containment. The downside of this technique is that it will temporarily shut you off psychically (although when you sleep, or relax, the aura will naturally rectify itself...so don't get too relaxed in the vamps presence, but don't worry about any possible permanent effects). This can be a great blessing, sometimes (like when you just need a decent night's sleep without the weird dreams, thanks...), but at other times it can be inconvenient. It's a good technique to learn generally.

Shielding can be done with drawing in the aura, or without, and is also a good thing to learn for general use. Simply concentrate on the edges of your aura (see it like an oval shape around your body, for example), and visualise the edges turn hard, like a shell or a wall, say. You can visualise the outside of this shell as turning into a mirror, to reflect and bounce back anything that's sent at you (ie negative energy), and effectively makes you invisible - the mirror will reflect things so they might see something, but they won't be sure what, or you can visualise it as a flowing torrent of water around you, which is good for grounding magical energies sent towards you. Other appropriate elemental visualisations (like a circle of fire to burn up and purify energies, the wall as an earthy earthing circle etc) can be used if you prefer...these are just a few.

This basically has the effect of preventing the psychic vampire from getting through your defences to vamp you, so obviously it's better if you draw your aura in as well...double protection.

On a different level, when you're dealing with people you already encounter as vamps, they will generally already have some kind of "hook" in you...It's always easiest to vamp someone who is permissive of it (some say consciously or not). Sometimes a psychic vamp will develop a very personal relationship with one person because of this - they're a ready and willing source. Others - probably most - are more opportunistic.

If you are regularly experiencing vamping from a known source, then shielding and drawing in your aura might only have a limited effect...since they have that hook, they essentially have a part of themselves in you already and this makes it easier from to link in. The thing to do here is visualise a rainbow effect of colours in your aura behind a mirrored shield...energy often operates on a particular frequency, associated with colours. So changing the colour frequency makes it harder for the vamp to get hold of you (hopefully I'm still making sense).

Likewise, those lacking in energy can visualise oranges or golden yellows in their auras, (which they can charge and conscientiously draw in to a reasonable level...not so much as for protection described above, but so it's less "stretched") to help prevent having to overcompensate by vamping...

In the longterm, most psychic vamps do so either consciously or unconsciously because of one or more underlying problems; I personally believe that the root cause is due to an imbalance or overcompensation of some sort. The solution could be as simple as some chakra therapy, or medical help. For some people, it can be (or become) an addiction, which is very hard to beat or even deal with...eventually, the person may find that they alienate pretty much everyone in their social circle because they end up exhausting everyone so much...I believe I've seen this happen on at least one occasion.

Depression is one of the most common causes of psychic vampirism, in my experience (especially when the person is in the manic phase). It can be a very exhausting illness, so the person may (I'd stress "may") automatically begin to sap at other people to help "perk" themselves up; and also, a lot of people who are sensitive to "psychism" of some form or another tend towards depression at some point, so it's not so unnatural for them to turn this way, consciously or (more often IMO) not...Sometimes it's a temporary thing, but mostly I'm talking about clinical, longterm depression. So if you're dealing with someone you can't avoid, it might be a good idea to encourage them to address the problem, if it can be identified...and in the meantime, shield and draw in.

[AugustFirst]

Thank you so much for that great explanation. I will practice it. I currently carry (in my pocketbook) a small black tourmaline, a tiger's eye and a small bottle of bent straight pins. I don't always have my purse and these don't always work...

[AugustFirst]

[QUOTE=On a different level, when you're dealing with people you already encounter as vamps, they will generally already have some kind of "hook" in you...It's always easiest to vamp someone who is permissive of it (some say consciously or not). Sometimes a psychic vamp will develop a very personal relationship with one person because of this - they're a ready and willing source. Others - probably most - are more opportunistic.

If you are regularly experiencing vamping from a known source, then shielding and drawing in your aura might only have a limited effect...since they have that hook, they essentially have a part of themselves in you already and this makes it easier from to link in. The thing to do here is visualise a rainbow effect of colours in your aura behind a mirrored shield...energy often operates on a particular frequency, associated with colours. So changing the colour frequency makes it harder for the vamp to get hold of you (hopefully I'm still making sense).

Yes this is true. It is a few different people. My neighbor, people at work, even my one sister. I have virtually cut off all contact with them, but it is difficult to do that. As for my neighbor, he continually hooks, and I continually try to unhook.
I won't go into specifics, but I have had a difficult time with this fella and I just want him to leave me alone. I don't even go into my front yard if he is out there. I have something in the works for this weekend to take care of the problem with him.

Part of my problem too, is that I am similiar to sweet nothings. I am a giver too. I even find myself giving when I don't want to.

Anyway, thanks again. I will be practicing.

[Evendusk]

I know that when I've gotten into arguments with people and I'm winning I'll feel a boost of power and I can almost sense the power flow from them and they visually weaken but I've experienced it from the other side as well and understand the loss of energy there. It also happens if I'm playing cards with others. When there's a power drain and the interest in the game wanes and we stop winning we always say that our luck has left.

When I first heard about psychic vampirism I began to visualize a shield around myself whenever I was around those people who wear me out and it seems to help some and I've also tried to be more conscious of my draining others and it's led to more calmer discussions than arguments. At least, most of the time.:)

[PoisonIvy]

I am empathic and I will admit that I have felt so drained by others emotions that I have been known to fuel arguements to try to make myself feel better. But now if I start feeling my energy being drained I walk away. When I was young I used to drain energy from others on purpose(I think) but if I do it now,I don't realize it. Now I've noticed my niece doing it. Yesterday after everyone left our Thanksgiving feast,I was so drained by my niece that I went to bed and passed out. I'm gonna have to learn how to block that little girl somehow! :seehearsp

[Sage Rainsong]

I have known a few psychic vampires in my life. I usualy use the standard circle. by the way anyone ever read the psychic vampire codex? Its a new book and this woman has a whole magical and classification system complete based on it complete with donor guidelines ect..

[Djiril]

Interesting thread! :)

[Dawa Lhamo]

In the longterm, most psychic vamps do so either consciously or unconsciously because of one or more underlying problems; I personally believe that the root cause is due to an imbalance or overcompensation of some sort. The solution could be as simple as some chakra therapy, or medical help. For some people, it can be (or become) an addiction, which is very hard to beat or even deal with...eventually, the person may find that they alienate pretty much everyone in their social circle because they end up exhausting everyone so much...I believe I've seen this happen on at least one occasion. I think I've seen it too. I have a friend who is like this. He's lost quite a few friends, and I don't think that they realize it's more than just he "creeps them out". It took me a while to realize it myself. Even after a past experience with vampirism. But, once I did, I resolved that I'd still love him and be his friend, but I wouldn't let him take anything other than what I give off naturally. And so I didn't.
Depression is one of the most common causes of psychic vampirism, in my experience (especially when the person is in the manic phase). It can be a very exhausting illness, so the person may (I'd stress "may") automatically begin to sap at other people to help "perk" themselves up; and also, a lot of people who are sensitive to "psychism" of some form or another tend towards depression at some point, so it's not so unnatural for them to turn this way, consciously or (more often IMO) not...Sometimes it's a temporary thing, but mostly I'm talking about clinical, longterm depression. So if you're dealing with someone you can't avoid, it might be a good idea to encourage them to address the problem, if it can be identified...and in the meantime, shield and draw in. This, I think, was my friend's cause. And it was a vicious cycle, because what he really wanted was love and attention, but he would need so much that he'd drive people away, increasing his own depression and feelings of worthlessness. He eventually had to leave school. But it had a happy ending, for him.

I have to admit, the idea of psi-vampirism, when I think about it, really scares me. ^_^ lol. Probably for the same reason being in a crowded room freaks me out. But, in my friend's case, he wasn't consciously aware of it, so I didn't feel like I could really blame him. Anyway...

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[Tisiphone]

I have known a few psychic vampires in my life. I usualy use the standard circle. by the way anyone ever read the psychic vampire codex? Its a new book and this woman has a whole magical and classification system complete based on it complete with donor guidelines ect..
I saw the Vampire Codex yesterday at the mall, I only had 15$ with me it was 20. That made my day a bummer.

[Tisiphone]

I'm actually thinking of starting a study, kind of a Q&A, the thing is it's just to weird asking people if you can interview them i've got the whole " I want to be a real life interview with the vampire" thing. I was thinking of starting a website, but my html skills are rusty. XD

Has anyone ever heard of the black veil? it's rules and regulations for vampires. Although I'm not sure i agree with it. But mostly it's about descretion when dealing with none vampires. And how it's breaking rules telling people about vampirism.

[Gothic Khat]

I've been called a psy vamp by my pagan girlfriend...I'm not sure if I am...If I am I'm not aware of it...but it freaks her out and I don't know what to do...
Sarz

[BrigidMoon]

I JUST saw this. Rock on, Auntie!

I started using the mental blocks after I figured out what was going on, too. Also, certain crystal properties can help. I think tourmalines are good for blocking it, especially black; one of my books says that the black tourmaline won't even let the vampire get close enough to suck energy from you. Also, green aventurine is a special protector to guard against vampirism of heart energy. One of my friends whom I believe possesses this tendency to soak up my energy has not even tried to contact me since I started using my green aventurine and black tourmaline.
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