This is crooked beyond belief!

[Artemis84]

I found this website on about.com. I must say, it is just plain SAD! :_(

http://www.spellmasters.com/spells.html

[loopy]

from site:
I can cast a spell to make one love another, or cause a person to change his mind about a relationship, or bring two people together.

My magical powers are beyond your imagination. I can cast a spell on your behalf regarding a relationship, your financial situation, future events, or whatever is important to you. I have the power and I use the power. I am Andreika, and I can change the course of destiny. Pay me and I shall cast a spell for you. Tell me what it is you want and I shall go about my work. Is it someone or something you desire to have? Do you want wealth, or happiness, or a mate?

I will cast only one spell at a time. Do not ask for more. My energies must be massed toward one specific target; otherwise, my powers are lessened. Send me your most important desire and I shall work my powers in your favor. When filling out the online order form, be sure to tell Andreika what you want!

This whole site reads like a late-night infommercial.

[Astraea]

Andreika should get herself a fake Jamaican accent and join forces with Miss Cleo.

[Earth Walker]

Those charlatans definitely got a piece of my mind! :G

[loopy]

Originally posted by Astraea
Andreika should get herself a fake Jamaican accent and join forces with Miss Cleo.

*snicker* I was just thinking that myself.

[sarhea]

And this is why we have such a hard time being accepted as "serious". Gods I get so mad about these "snake-oil salesmen"
grr.

[Myst]

makes me giggle...


there's one born every minute... and this one on the site is catering to a whole lot of other ones... ;)

[Socharis]

LOL 8O what an idiot.

[Earth Walker]

*bump*

[MammaStar]

Originally posted by Artemis84
I found this website on about.com. I must say, it is just plain SAD! :_(

http://www.spellmasters.com/spells.html

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


I'm sorry, I know I should be mad or something, but between this site and the other one I can't help but laugh.

Yes, I know it's sites like these that make us look bad, but sometimes I just can't help but laugh at the absurdity of it all.


:rotfl:

[Lavender]

Darn! Wished I'd thought of that first! :lol: I could be rich! :lol:

[Socharis]

Originally posted by Wildchild
Darn! Wished I'd thought of that first! :lol: I could be rich! :lol:

LOL 8O

[talamh]

Fifteen dollars (US) for a money spell??? Money back guarantee?? Oh wow! Sounds like a good investment to me..........

Well, is it any different from the televangelists who get people to send in money for prayers?

Why should anyone expect paganism to be any less likely to have the same range of opportunists, fundamentalists and power-hungry egotists then any other area of human endeavour....

If anything, it's a measure of paganism's "normalization". i suppose it's better then being burned at the stake.... but it's still sad. sigh. bb talamh

[Socharis]

Originally posted by talamh anEiac
Fifteen dollars (US) for a money spell??? Money back guarantee?? Oh wow! Sounds like a good investment to me..........

Well, is it any different from the televangelists who get people to send in money for prayers?

Why should anyone expect paganism to be any less likely to have the same range of opportunists, fundamentalists and power-hungry egotists then any other area of human endeavour....

If anything, it's a measure of paganism's "normalization". i suppose it's better then being burned at the stake.... but it's still sad. sigh. bb talamh

LOL 8O I agree Fire stains can be a real bitch to get out LOL

[story]

heh. what was that James Brown line?
Talkin loud
ain't sayin nothing


btw, i can't help feel prayers are in order for anyone calling themselves pazuzu. (as the proprietor of spells and magic dot com does.) Talk about playing with a loaded pistol. Sheeeeesh!

[Wiccan Maeve]

This website is an absolute joke. No wonder Pagans and Wiccans get such a bad rap. I wonder if this person/these people believe in karma? They must not to be pulling something like this. Ughhh...... this hits a nerve with me.

Love & light,
HoneyDreads

[Twilight Garden]

Seems to me, this is what happens when a mystery religion starts to become more mainstream. I'm not saying it IS mainstream. (I know from personal experience it's not.) It's just STARTING to get more recognition and acceptance. People are bound to start taking advantage of it.

[gunner]

"This website is an absolute joke. No wonder Pagans and Wiccans get such a bad rap. I wonder if this person/these people believe in karma? They must not to be pulling something like this. Ughhh...... this hits a nerve with me."

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"Why should anyone expect paganism to be any less likely to have the same range of opportunists, fundamentalists and power-hungry egotists then any other area of human endeavour.... "

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"i can't help feel prayers are in order for anyone calling themselves pazuzu."

"pazuzu"??? i think you're right!

sadly, you're right, we've got our share of snake oil peddlers just as every other religion does. inevitable i suppose but we don't have to like it, do we.

no, they don't , obviously, believe in karma or much of anything else other than the dollar and how to get it as well as enjoying a spurious feeling of superiority to the "suckers" they cheat.

and mystique, i'm pleased you gave them a piece of your mind, they sorely need to get more mind than they have at present and perhaps a bit of an honest mind might influence the rest.

[Amora]

Notice they failed to mention with a retribution spell that it can harm the sender threefold? I actually pity anyone who would fall for this sort of crap...

[Amora]

Actually I pity the person or people who are profiting from this....

[Myst]

pazuzu? puzuzu? Sounds familiar.

Here's my theory. What you have using these spells is people who don't know how to focus energy or even focus on an intent properly. The spells mean nothing without that, I think; they are just a bunch of ingredients with no magickal intent to unite them. Therefore, the people using these will either a) get nowhere, never really casting an effective spell or b) cast a weak spell that will cause problems for them or won't be strong enough to cause problems for anyone else

Maybe the people who do need to learn not to muck about with magick the hard way will in this way. If this is the lesson they need to learn then that's the way it will be. *AND* I wouldn't worry about anyone I know using one to hurt me, being as someone who doesn't know how to focus energy or on an intent properly probably has no defences against getting hurt if you "return to sender" the energy, nor would they be able to hurt you if you protected yourself against negative energy.

It's the *REAL* practitioners of magick we need to worry about, not some poor people who go to a website for magick from "Spells R Us" or the guy who provides the spells for them, IMHO

[Swanspirit]

UNDER A ROCK?????????
JUST KIDDING .............. these people have been around for a very long time ......since before my time tooo
anyone in paganism over twenty years knows this........ they are in the back of any new age astrology sci fi mag......... no need to get bent out of shape...... they arent going away .... and some of them have been practicing for a very long time and are sincere not all frauds .............
but very many of them are .....
as an astrologer for over twentyfive years....... most real astrologers deal with the hype from the POP astrologers and just shrug it off ..... just like the real pagans knows who is who as well ........
Love and light
Swannie

[Illuminatus]

.... I read a quote yesterday, it went "What you deny in others, you deny in yourself." And here you are, all denying this guy.

Now GRANTED, he may be using the force for personal benefit and not defense only like Yoda said, but I think the question should be asked: Could he be using it?

I know at least one of you has offered to perform spells on my behalf, as a personal favor. And two days ago, you all lit candles to send a bunch of energy to people YOU'VE NEVER MET. Now, take away the button that charges your credit card, and how is that any different from this guy?

Does the fact that he is a shady fraud, also indicate that he lacks psychic/spiritual power? Because that is the assumption you are all making, and I believe it to be unfounded.

- Ill

[loopy]

I'm not presuming he's a fraud magickally at all. I just think he's shameless, and shouldn't be ripping people off. *shrug*

The whole thing, as some have said, puts a silly spin of magick.


In fact, if you are not satisfied with any spell cast on your behalf, we will refund your money up to one full year from the time you receive your order -- no questions asked.

It's like you're buying a bicycle or some cheap closet shoe rack. *wrinkles nose*

[Swanspirit]

the "astrologer " gazes into the chart and says .... you will meet a tall handsome stranger .......LOL and it turns out to be your future mother in law LOL...... sorry couldnt resist ......
Love and Laughter
Swannie

[IOLO]

Ancient middle-eastern god....especially in the area of modern (if that's not an oxyism) Iraq....made "popular" again in the movie "The Exorcist"...( right at the beginning..Max von Sydow/Marin...unearths a statue of pazuzu..)

Well...in regard to the "snake oil salesmen".....let me borrow a phrase from the middle-eastern book of mythology..."as ye sow...so shall ye reap"....some have cultivated the fields, and these guys are just planting the seeds...can't say as I blame them in a certain way

I find them no different from the self-elected and styled "gurus" in the neo-pagan and wiccan world....especially the type who make death threats from their web-sites....

IOLO

[IOLO]

...just like me...hahaha...sorry for the typo

[Rævyn Cigány]

Originally posted by Mystique
Those charlatans definitely got a piece of my mind! :G

You GO girlfriend :thumbsup:

:flamer:

BB

Rae )0(

[Myst]

Originally posted by Illuminatus
Now, take away the button that charges your credit card, and how is that any different from this guy?

Exactly that. In general most Pagans don't like other Pagans doing this sort of stuff for money, except perhaps when they are doing it for their livelihood. It's a delicate subject. You'll find many Pagans slamming astrologists and psychics on tv, even some authors who seem more intent on money then quality. When money clouds the intent, or you treat magick like something you sell at Walmart, that's a problem....

Just my 2 cents.