Religious Satanism

[Goobalon]

Also known as Traditional Satanism dosen't seem to be dealt with much on this web site. I just read the poll "Is Satanism Pagan" (all 14 exhaustive pages of it, forgive me if I missed something and repeat a part), it seems that most people here believe Satanism to only refer to LeVayen Satanism (Modern Satanism).

Religious Satanism does worship Satan, but not the Xtian Satan, as it predates christianity by several thousand years, so its not simply "reactionary" as some have dismissed it as. It holds its roots in the religions of the Yezidi and in many cases the Snake Worshippers of Egypt.

It not only has been claimed to predate any Judeo/Xtian/Islamic religion, but some have gone as far as to say that it may predate Paganism (please don't scold me for that, who came first I hope isn't too big of an issue).

Getting back to the point...here is a quote from http://www.meta-religion.com/Esoterism/Satanism/satanism.htm

"It is important to realize that the Satan that they recognize has few if any points of similarity with the Christian concept of Satan. The Satanists' concept of Satan is pre-Christian, and derived from the Pagan image of power, virility, sexuality and sensuality. To most Satanists, Satan is a force of nature, not a living quasi-deity. Their Satan has nothing to do with Hell, demons, pitchforks and profound evil. They have occasionally engaged in a Black Mass for publicity purposes, in which the Roman Catholic Mass is ridiculed. But, otherwise, their rituals have no connection to Christian rituals."

At this I would definately consider them pagan. If you are at all intrigued at this please see http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/TRADITIONAL.html

If you have any questions please ask me and I'll try to get back to you. I am by know means an expert in...anything...but I'd be happy to find people who are to answer whatever you may need to know about this subject.

At that I am just really dissappointed at the lack of information on the subject I've found about this on this site. If I just missed it I'm obviously an idiot, but please be kind enough to just point me in the right direction.

[ToriaMaximus]

I found this thread;

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=76305

And Diane Vera's site;

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/dvera/

Are theistic Satanism and Traditional Satanism synonymous?

[AdNoctum]

Are theistic Satanism and Traditional Satanism synonymous?

Yes.

[DamienDeville]

Nice Post:

[Rain Gnosis]

I'm a little confused Goobalon - who are you quoting in your first post? Is that part of another discussion?

If there hasn't been info here on it, it's because a traditional Satanist hasn't posted on the site about their beliefs. No reason for disappointment really.

[Goobalon]

Thanx ToriaMaximus

[SweetIsTheTruth]

Religious Satanism does worship Satan, but not the Xtian Satan, as it predates christianity by several thousand years, so its not simply "reactionary" as some have dismissed it as.

Thank you so much for pointing this out. Although I am not a Satanist, I am totally against disinformation of any kind. There seems to be much confusion on these boards regarding this, with many assuming Satanism can only exist within a Christian paradigm, which is not the case AT ALL, as you have perfectly demonstrated here.

[David19]

[/INDENT]Religious Satanism does worship Satan, but not the Xtian Satan, as it predates christianity by several thousand years, so its not simply "reactionary" as some have dismissed it as. It holds its roots in the religions of the Yezidi and in many cases the Snake Worshippers of Egypt.

Actually Yezidi is not Satanism, the Yeitzi's are a Kurdish group in Iraq, their religion is very secret, a lot is based on oral traditions, etc and also, they consider their line to be "pure" - "direct" from Adam, so they don't look to outsiders and don't accept converts.

Some people have accused them of Satanism, but these are mainly Islamic fundamentalists (and if we believe them, then I guess everyone is worshipping Shaitan, including Christians and Jews!).


[/INDENT]At this I would definately consider them pagan. If you are at all intrigued at this please see http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/TRADITIONAL.html

Just wanted to say, that site is total BS, it's run by Maxine Dietrich (real name: Andrea Herrington), it's a neo-nazi site, who is extremely anti-Semitic, (apparantly, she's waged an "astral war against the Jews"), her husband is Cliff Herrington, apparantly a prominent neo-nazi in Tulsa.

Check out her other site: www.666blacksun.com, it's kind of entertaining and funny really that some people would actually believe the stuff on this site.

Personally, I think Diane Vera's (http://www.theisticsatanism.com/) site is one of the best Theistic Satanist sites out there (along with others too).

[GEBS]

If you have any questions please ask me and I'll try to get back to you. I am by know means an expert in...anything...but I'd be happy to find people who are to answer whatever you may need to know about this subject.

At that I am just really dissappointed at the lack of information on the subject I've found about this on this site. If I just missed it I'm obviously an idiot, but please be kind enough to just point me in the right direction.


We'd be happy to have more info on any kind of Satanism. As has been stated, we just don't have people posting this information. If you would like to share more about what you know then we'd be happy to have it here. The more info we have the better.