What..To..Do..

[Wiccamagikal]

Merry Meet,
_happydanc To begin, I want you all to know that I am not a very judgemental person at all, as a matter of fact I cant stand it when people do it..to anyone. But latley, something has been bothering me a lot. I have this friend, lets call her May...well last year, when I REALLY began researching Wicca and the metaphysics, May ran around school doing the same...Now, I was exposed to Wicca at a VERY young age, and just quit practicing for some reason until last year. Well, She and her friend "sean" went running all around school with wiccan books etc, which they bought...(I could not afford things like that so I just printed from the net)...WELL To say the least, ever since then they tend to look at my things and mimic them...Like, One day I wore my pentagram necklace to school, because..I had a strong urge to do so, so following that urge..I did. WELL The next day, here comes May and Sean with...pentagram necklaces. I mean, It is really annoying at this point....And they NEVER discuss Wicca, with me, or anyone else that I know! In Fact, they constantly harm things...including themselves...and I know if they were truley wiccan..they wouldnt be doing this right? WHY are they doing this!! I mean, I dont find it cool to be a "witch" at all..Its just what I am..and that is how I look at it. Well, Yesterday...(btw) this has been going on since last year...I went to Mays house..and..for some reason with great timing of course, I walk in and she is lighting candles all over her room. I immediatly threw my best protection spell into play...for I had no clue what she was ready to do...Well, She asked me what I thought of her altar.....and I didnt know what to say..Because to me, an altar is one of the most..sacred things of the craft..tis the link between you and your spirit...in my view...So I told her it was pretty...well...She was like OK well i stole this from (local shops name) and this from ( another shop) and I was just..,,.astounded. :eyebrow: For one, I go to this shop all of the time..and spend MOST of my checks their of COURSE LoL....And for two, the people there are SO nice and helpful..I just dont know how anyone would have the odassity to do something like that...Ughh! So I dont really know what to do.. I am like.."Friends" with this girl...but there are several things coming between us..and I try to talk about it but she just gets mad and goes "well your just copying off of us"...I mean..people....this is SO not true..lol! I just dont know what to do....I mean..should I confide in her anymore?? Should I even hang out with her anymore?? UGHHH.. LOL I am so glad that I have you all to vent with.. lol

Blessed be, and If you have any advice PLEASE tell...
WiccaMagikal.. :chattin:

[RubyRose]

Well personally, I don't think stealing is a great thing to do. I mean afterall the shopkeepers have to make a living too don't they? It's just wrong, in my opinion.
As for your friends harming themselves. People have all sorts of reasons for inflicting pain upon themselves, even simply because its fun. For no other reason other than they enjoy doing it. Sadly, I know some people who do it simply for that reason. The ones who do it as a cry for help or some other emotional reason are the ones to watch.
As for the Wiccan Rede 'An ye harm none, do as thou wilt' well its not so much a rule as it is a guide, and keep it mind that while most Wiccan's follow this, not all do, and it is open to interpretation.

As for continuing or not continuing the friendship, well that's something only you can decide.

I hope I helped, if only in a little way.

Bendithion,
RubyRose

[spirit wind]

Ok. Have you tried talking to her? Doesn't sound like she is one to listen but you never know.

Personally, if it was me in that situation, i would cut all ties with her. It's not worth the hassle to have someone around you that brings you down.

[badkitty]

In every relationship, you kind of have to weigh out what your getting vs what your putting in. Though you can have relationships with short term imbalances, but ultimately it is the best for everyone involved if there can be mutual support and respect. It doesn't sound like you respect this person, so I question why you want to stay friends with her. Is there any possibility that you can influence her practices in a positive way? Would you gain something by doing so? Are there other aspects of your relationship unrelated to spirituality that make it worth being involved in?

I have to admit to feeling some annoyance about her when reading your post, as she sounds like the type of person that gives us a bad name.

[ObsidianSunrise]

Personally, if it was me in that situation, i would cut all ties with her. It's not worth the hassle to have someone around you that brings you down.


I have to say I agree. You have indicated that you don't like the idea of being judgemental. Unfortunately, this world is full of judgemental people who will judge you by who you keep company with. As a teenager I was judged that way and I will admit a few of the people I kept company with were not people I would associate with now. Someday those two people are going to get caught stealing from some of the places you shop at. If the shop owners associate you with them, they may judge you as being like them.

You have to look deep inside yourself and decide if the association is worth the hassle and problems that could result. The saying imitation is the sincerest form of flattery has its' drawbacks if the imitation is all a bunch of lies to make that person look like you. Personally I wouldn't want someone imitating me in that manner, then later deciding to tell people she was only trying to be like me. That would really make you look bad if she is doing all the things you say she is doing.

It will be a hard decision Hun. But we are here to talk to if you need to talk. :hugz:

[morrigan]

If i was in your position i would cut ties or at least limit my contact with them.. the feeling they are causing in you is not a positive one so therefore i fail to see any benifits in keeping association with them.. (purely based on what you have said)
for you being a witch is who you are for them it seems to be a form of rebelion.. the stealing and hurting themselves could be an attention thing or it could also be a way of rebeling to see how much they can get away with.. you might want to be careful about being with them in shops as you could get falsely accused of theft if they get caught and decide to drag you into it too..

[Wiccamagikal]

[B]Merry Meet,
I must say, After reading everyones reply...I have come to the conclusion that I will talk with her one last time...and try to explain that wicca is not something she should use to "Rebel" against people..because it's something that is very important to MANY people..including me. I mean, I have tried to talk before, and it just seems like I am talking to my wall!! And I try not to do that too often...:) lol =) But what I am going to do is talk, then if that does not work I will just..brake the ties. And you are right, they are going to eventually suck me in to the whole theft thing, even if I do not do it myself they....are going to be found out..and because I am around them..people are going to associate me with them..and yes..I see the connection now. I mean, we have been friends for some time...but it seems that she is just..a different person now..Maybe a talk will do..or at least start the process...you know. Thank you ALL for your advice..and if you would..remember me in your thoughts..and her as well!..Maybe some good will come of this...either way it goes!

Like my Signature?? lol

[ObsidianSunrise]

I'm sending you strength Hun. :hugz:

I do like your sig! I never thought of the whole thorns have roses side before! LOL

[Wiccamagikal]

MM
Thank you! I will definitly try and iron this thing out, I will try my best that is....Have a blessed night! And yeah, I cant remember where I found the roses quote..But I fell in love w/it when I did..

[Ron]

Well um can I say that stealing like that, under those circumstances, practically goes against the founding principles of Wicca. I mean HELLO?! Wicca I am not, but for the sake of that religion I must say that you should probably write letters to the stores from which she stole things and include a list of exactly what was stolen. Given them her address and all her contact information. Maybe they will press charges, maybe they will just prey for her. Either way, they should know about this foolery. If she gets thrown in jail, all the better - it looks like she deserves it.

Just an opinion. I would say what everyone else already has, but this is something that I thought I'd mention.

[Valerie]

If it were me in that situation, I would have left her in the dust a long time ago. She's proclaiming her "Wiccan-hood" to the world for shock value, and has no real interest in the truths of the religion. Furthermore, she is not respecting you and is making a mockery of things that you stand for. That isn't a person I would like around me.

I'm glad that you're understanding this is not a true friend, and you are so much better than that! Don't let this get you down - there will always be people like that in our lives. We just have to know how to handle them and move on. ;)

I'm sure you'll get everything straightened out soon, and I'm sending some strengthening energy your way. :hugz:

With the way this girl is going about things, I wouldn't be surprised if she loses interest in Wicca very quickly anyway. :wtf:

[Wiccamagikal]

MM,
Yes, I do understand that she is not a true friend and should not be trusted...and I plan to confront her today about stealing from the wiccan store..And these ppl are psychic BTW..SO I am thinking they PROBABLY already know she stole things..but I will inform them anyway..just for their sake..they have to make a living too you know! I plan to go today and get some materials to read from the shop...so Maybe I will bring it up then..