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SIthErAc
November 29th, 2004, 07:21 PM
i want some ppls thoughts on this one i personally dont dress goth nor attempt to say iam
i do on the other hand find a great ammount of comfort in meditating while sitting ontop of a grave or monument. what do you think about it? i dont see it as any disgrace to the person, to me its more like keeping them company for a while lol (sounds sooo dumb out loud hahahha)

Keroberos
November 29th, 2004, 07:32 PM
meh, that's your choice, if it feels good there's nothing wrong with it. And it's not like your friends hang out there smoking cigarettes and trying to look cool right? it's just you getting your meditate on, go for it, you're not wierd quit worrying.

IndigoMoon
November 29th, 2004, 07:34 PM
I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I wouldn't do it because things that deal with the dead freak me out. I have no stomach for ghosts.

Aidron
November 29th, 2004, 07:37 PM
This is neither stupid nor a relatively new idea. People for thousands of years have conversed with the dead where they rested, often through various meditative forms (channeling, automatic writing, etc.).

If you however approach this method, you should only seek to converse with the dead present in the area. If you want to converse with someone whose grave is not there, go home and do it at your altar. It's not only being a tad rude, but illogical.

SIthErAc
November 29th, 2004, 07:39 PM
iam liking the replies thus far keep em coming! :D

6th Angel
November 29th, 2004, 07:54 PM
My great grandfather used to go to graveyards at night to read. He said it was the only place he could get peace and quiet from my great grandmother. They lived in a small town in Italy and thanks to his lantern, rumors started to go around this town saying it was a ghost :ghostie: . :lol:

Anyway, my point is that this is a quiet, peaceful place, great for reading or meditating. Donīt feel bad about it.

MorningDove030202
November 29th, 2004, 08:01 PM
I would say that a grave yard is a good place to find solitude outdoors, though my first impression was "stupid goth haingout" however, if a grave yard was the only park like place near me I would probably meditate there too. For me it's about being outdoors, and I'll take it with or with out the graves.

Dove

Sothis*Crowfeather
November 29th, 2004, 08:04 PM
Well I do admit I am a Goth, but I've never had the chance to go to a graveyard and just meditate. I have wanted to, just to expereince it. And no I don't want to hangout, smoke, and "act gothic".

Tarbh Nathroch
November 29th, 2004, 08:07 PM
Graveyards are great for some piece and quiet. The trees, grass and one can almost always find a bench if the grass is wet. Seams like an ideal place for meditation.

LittleRhiannon
November 29th, 2004, 08:10 PM
Graveyards creep me out a bit, so I try not to go unless I have a reason. Unfortunatly, I live right next to a huge one that is a shortcut to many places around the city, so I do end up going there a lot.

I did find a crow feather on the ground there once. I still have it.

I think it's dumb to just go there to hang out, kind of disrespectful, you know? But if you have a purpose, whether it's business with the dead, or just a quiet place to mediate, or even just a quick passage through town, I think it's fine.

DragonDawn
November 29th, 2004, 08:37 PM
I love visiting graveyards. The older the better. To me they are very peaceful and calming. Some advice though. Make sure that they are public, some of the older ones aren't, and that you are only there when their 'open'. Most have a dawn till dusk time frame.

morrigan
November 29th, 2004, 08:40 PM
I dont see there being any problem with spending time at graveyards.. the are quiet and a great place to open up the channels with those who have passed over..as long as there is no destruction of the graves i fail to see a problem with spending time there..
I find personally that the old grave yards intrege me the most.. I love to look at all the old headstones, seeing how old people were etc.. graveyards have a claming effect on me for some reason.. especially ones that have big old trees in them..
when my grandfather died he was buried in a lawn cemetary.. I dont particulaly like lawn cemetaries they feel like everyone in just jammed in there, they have a very chaotic feel to them so i wasnt too happy about having to go there. the day of his funeral was a clear day but when we got to the cemetary a mist/fog came in.. the heaveier it got the more i could feel my grandfather there..I think he did it for me so i would know he was there and so i was more comfortable..
Blessed Be ~Morrigan~
p.s I am goth but my fascination with graveyards started before i even knew what the term 'goth' was.. from the age of about 3 or 4 all i knew was that i loved old graveyards, loved misty moon lit nights and thought morticia adams was the most beautiful woman i had ever seen and wanted to grow up to be just like her.. (lol yes yes i was an unusual child)

QUEEN OF THE DAMNED
November 29th, 2004, 08:56 PM
I have to say I was a bit offended about the goth hang out thing. I am goth and I do love graveyards, I love old cemetaries, I love looking at the graves and imagining what the people's lives and deaths were like. I find it incredibly soothing and it feels right.
I agree that it is a great place to meditate. It feels so far from the outside world (lol depending on which cemetary i suppose). I've always wanted to go to the cemetaries in New Orleans and check them out. Cemetaries seem to be like a magnet for me.

Gracecat
November 29th, 2004, 09:00 PM
I enjoy wandering among the oldest of cemetaries. There are several next to the family plot that are more than 200 years old.

But... at the same time I have business there. Secondly, I don't *sit* on a person's grave. To me that is disrespectful and not just a little rude of that person's family should come up. And yes, people still visit their ancestor's place of rest 200 years later. Where my husband's family is buried contains local families that have been here since the beginning and are still very active in the community. The living visit recent dead (grandparents and parents) but that doesn't mean the oldest of plots aren't visited as well. At any rate, I can imagine seeing someone laying across the visible concrete slab atop many vaults. Not cool.

And if you should visit in the middle of the day, please please please don't continue to sprawl when visitors of *any* "resident" appear. Get up, leave and let the mourning mourn. Their necessity to visit trumps yours. Also, if security appears and asks your business, be polite. It's ok to explain you're enjoying the architecture of various monuments. (Obviously in places that disallow any standing monuments or requires a uniformity among headstones, this fails to stand reason).

Lastly, if you have a particular place you visit, leave something behind once in a while. It's only polite and family members of that person tend to be less abrasive if they find you there one day if a mysterious flower or such has been noticed on multiple prior occassions.

Tsuchimaru
November 29th, 2004, 09:02 PM
I love them. There's nothing quite like relaxing in a nice graveyard.....very calming...;)

I don't go to meditate, or to communicate with the dead. I also don't sit/stand or even touch the graves...I find -that- disrespectful (at least to stranger's graves), moreso than me actually being there. I like to be alone...and what better place than one that most people are afraid of? Graveyards are always nice and quiet...

WingedTigerChild
November 29th, 2004, 09:10 PM
I love 'hanging out' in graveyards and no, I don't consider myself a goth. I love the energy they give off, and I love looking at all the older headstones and funny last names.

awyrdone
November 29th, 2004, 09:15 PM
Secondly, I don't *sit* on a person's grave. To me that is disrespectful and not just a little rude of that person's family should come up.....
Lastly, if you have a particular place you visit, leave something behind once in a while. It's only polite and family members of that person tend to be less abrasive if they find you there one day if a mysterious flower or such has been noticed on multiple prior occassions.

On the second part, true! I try not to walk on their graves either because I just feel rude doing it. It's kinda like if someone walked on my bed or couch.....Just a personal pref.

The last part, awwww...that's sweet. They probably like it, too.

Go ahead and flog me....but they like it when you leave a little liquor or beer. I try to leave it there so they don't follow me home. (Grew up in a haunted house, then dabbled too much, learned my lesson)

But it really is a nice place to sit and know that you will most likley not be disurbed and have some quiet, not just some gothic thing.

SIthErAc
November 29th, 2004, 09:17 PM
good to see stereotypes arent rampant here lol ;D

audi
November 29th, 2004, 09:23 PM
um i used to love to go to the cemitary and just chill there. its really calm and peaceful, i think. except they close them kind of early around me because some of the grave stones started to get knocked over or stolen. ::shakes head:: how sad.
hope you enjoy your time there! *hugs*

flar7
November 29th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Have gotten drunk at many a graveyard and haunted place.......Like, "Crybaby Bridge" or "Co-tiny" very haunted places. Graveyards to me are not haunted, but do carry a peaceful presence, perhaps bestowed by the earth in recognition of the attempt by man at the last giving to earth. "attempt" since you cant decompose correctly in a modern type grave. ick.

Fairy lights are quite common at our town cemetary after dark. Very wierd. Anyone can see them, some have photographed them. Explanations vary, but if they are only holograms, they are some of the coolest holograms I have seen.

DragonDawn
November 29th, 2004, 09:25 PM
But... at the same time I have business there. Secondly, I don't *sit* on a person's grave. To me that is disrespectful and not just a little rude of that person's family should come up.



And if you should visit in the middle of the day, please please please don't continue to sprawl when visitors of *any* "resident" appear. Get up, leave and let the mourning mourn. Their necessity to visit trumps yours.

I agree, I would not sit on anyones grave. I also agree with leaving if any mourners appear. I always leave especialy if there is going to be a funeral in the area.

Gracecat
November 29th, 2004, 09:29 PM
Actually many cemetaries in New Orleans will have a gift of some alcohol or another. Spirits love spirits :)

Sage Rainsong
November 29th, 2004, 09:33 PM
I don't think its weird at all. I often use graveyard dirt in my spells(protection) I find them very pleasent and peaceful. I hardly own any black clothing.

lednevir
November 29th, 2004, 10:37 PM
the tombstone on the 1930's poet William Alexander Percy has a poem that basicially says let this be a spot where you can rest away from the hardship of life

wakywitch
November 29th, 2004, 11:09 PM
I love grave yards. Excellent place for meditation, especially if there is a body of water nearby.

As for it being "a stupid goth hang out", I hung around in grave yards as a teenager. Way before the term goth became so fashionable. :rotfl:

9-2-2
December 14th, 2004, 12:13 AM
A lot of folks call me gothic, but I am just me. I used to hang out at a local grave nightly. I was the only one there. I studied magick, meditated, thought, and did artwork. I picked up the trash that morons littered about, and once, ran out a teenaged couple trying to have a rut! It's disgraceful what some people do. I never sit or walk on graves, always around them. Didn't go ghost hunting, I always let the dead remain at rest.

As to graveyards being a "stupid goth hangout", I feel that is an ignorant statement. Goths usually hang out in clubs, cafes, their own corners at school, at home, or wherever they wish to flounder about like the next average joe.. I have never seen any goths "hang out" at any graveyards in Wichita and Derby. I've only met vandals, and because I was the only goth that regularly hangs around graveyards (as far as I know), I had fun running them off. n_n Heheh, I look mad scary in the dark to the average denizen here. n_n

At the time, the local graveyard was a better place for me to wander. Either that, or go home and get slapped around by my old man. :\

morrigen
December 14th, 2004, 05:24 AM
I dont see there being any problem with spending time at graveyards.. the are quiet and a great place to open up the channels with those who have passed over..as long as there is no destruction of the graves i fail to see a problem with spending time there..
I find personally that the old grave yards intrege me the most.. I love to look at all the old headstones, seeing how old people were etc.. graveyards have a claming effect on me for some reason..

p.s I am goth but my fascination with graveyards started before i even knew what the term 'goth' was.. from the age of about 3 or 4 all i knew was that i loved old graveyards, loved misty moon lit nights and thought morticia adams was the most beautiful woman i had ever seen and wanted to grow up to be just like her.. (lol yes yes i was an unusual child)

Me too. I liive 3 minutes walk away from a huge oold graveyardd and will often take a book and read there...or just wander around.

And Morticia Addams was my role-model too :)

karma carmeleon
December 14th, 2004, 08:45 AM
You could look at gravyards as a good location for meditation cause its quiet and peaceful. The only thing keeping people from doing that is you could get in trouble. Grave keepers don't exactly like it when people hang around in graveyards unless their visiting the dead.

DixieWitch
December 14th, 2004, 11:44 AM
I'm not a goth, nor do I think it's stupid to hang out in a cemetery. I do it sometimes just for the peace and relaxation. I've never know or heard of any goths stupidly hanging out in the cemetery. WHat exactly is your image of a Goth? Those teen kids that hang out at the mall, dressed in all black who frequent Hot Topic? Goth is a way of life for many people. And it's not just a way of dressing or where they hang out. Just like you have your jocks, nerds, preps and such, you have your Goths. So I'd be careful with my choice of words next time!

DixieWitch
December 14th, 2004, 11:46 AM
I have to say I was a bit offended about the goth hang out thing. I am goth and I do love graveyards, I love old cemetaries, I love looking at the graves and imagining what the people's lives and deaths were like. I find it incredibly soothing and it feels right.
I agree that it is a great place to meditate. It feels so far from the outside world (lol depending on which cemetary i suppose). I've always wanted to go to the cemetaries in New Orleans and check them out. Cemetaries seem to be like a magnet for me.
You would love the ones in New Orleans! I've only been to one---stupidly missed the Lafayette Cemetery and it was right down the road from where we stayed, which was a mile from Anne Rice's house. We did go to the St Louis cemetery though. I loved it!! But I highly recommend to take a guided tour! Don't ever go there alone!!

LadyTrinity
December 14th, 2004, 12:29 PM
i love graveyards.. as long as u respect the property and dont disturb peoples stones and graves there is nothing wrong with hanging out in one. :jumprope: