2012 New Beggining

[Ramarious]

Does anyone know about The Suntelia Aion,or the Oroborus? I know something very big is supposed to happen. :confused: . I just don't know what. _travolta_

[turtlerain46]

While I can't remember the name of the guy who came up with this theory, I do know that he had come to the conclusion that starting in 2000, the earth would slowly begin to flood and that by 2012, alot of places would be underwater. While he's not talking Waterworld here, the shore line did come inland by 100 miles. He came to this conclusion by using ancient chinese numerology (I think). I don't know how much of that I believe but the way it's been raining and storming around here I would believe it.

[Keroberos]

I think that also has to do with polar ice caps melting, like Washington DC and Manhattan are going to be underwater.

[Wolfscout1]

http://www.survive2012.com/

Author: Patrick Geryl

Pole Shift & Pole Reversal in 2012
In 2012 the next polar reversal will take place on earth. This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions.

In my books I reveal the immense cataclysm that is going to torment the earth in the near future. It is presently assumed by most people and the general scientific world at large, that the rotation of the Earth is stable, however, as expounded in my previous works on this subject, this is not the case. The gruesome reports of the previous catastrophes should, hopefully, be clear to all.

The historical exploration of cosmology in previous books is founded on the translation of hieroglyphs, cracking of codes, unveiling of the magnetic reversal of the sun, study of old maps, decoding of astronomical clues, geological research, and the discovery of the most exciting archaeological find in modern times.
Considering these I came to the following conclusions:

1. With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. The result is worldwide destruction, and is supported by paleo-magnetic evidence and early manuscripts.
2. The reversal of the poles is attributed to the harmonic cycle of the magnetic fields of the sun.
3. Polar reversals can be calculated precisely on the basis of the sunspot cycle theory or the magnetic field theory, which the Maya and the Old Egyptians were privy to. These secrets are contained in the Labyrinth of Hawara, a huge complex consisting of three thousand rooms.

I explained abundantly clearly that life after a polar reversal is nothing but horror, pure unimaginable horror. All securities you presently have at hand, like - amongst others - food, transport, and medicines, will have disappeared in one big blow, dissolved into nothingness. As will our complete civilization. It cannot be more horrifying than this; worse than the worst nightmare. More destructive than a nuclear war in which the entire global arsenal of nuclear weapons has been deployed in one blow. Are you grasping the facts?

The earth will be subjected to total destruction. It will be many times worse than my description. Terrible hunger, cold and pain, and more will rule your daily life: without hope of a quick recovery, because all knowledge and resources will have been completely destroyed. That will be the reality of your daily life after the forthcoming polar reversal. And it is in this scenario you will have to try to survive.

The Riddle of the Magnetic Field Solved
At present scientists still do not know much about the mechanism that generates the magnetic field of the earth, which is more than frightening. Without doubt, our continued existence depends upon this. Thousands of years ago our ancestors knew that when this magnetic field tilts, a worldwide destruction takes place. The present geologists, astronomers and physicists know little about this. For that reason we are running towards our end, without a single acknowledgement from official sources.

So, what do our professors indeed know? Next to nothing. In short, the scenario is as follows: a solid central core rotates in the center of the earth. It is surrounded by a liquid iron-like layer, on top of which the earth's crust is continuously drifting. This whole structure therefore appears to be a huge rotating dynamo. In addition, the liquid layer rotates in the electrostatic field of the sun, recharging itself.

However, this is not at all efficient: more electrical potential is lost than gained. Just like a battery that is almost empty, it is difficult to recharge and it becomes exhausted more easily and quickly. This is the situation with the "battery" of the magnetic field of the earth. For this reason one sees the force of the magnetic field diminishing, almost 60% over the last two thousand years.

At this rate there will not be much left within a couple of decades! And then one can expect a reversal of the poles. But nobody knows in what way this will happen, nor what the consequences will be, in contrast to the Maya and the Old Egyptians who knew the terrible consequences only too well. Their science, their religion and way of life were completely based on them. They encoded their knowledge in Holy Numbers and in their architecture.

I needed days, weeks, months and years to follow their carefully applied clues and decode them. After an exasperatingly long search, I found out that these codes were connected with the catastrophic events on earth that were caused by pole shifts. Some of the codes were terribly complicated, although not incomprehensible. Once you have figured out the cipher, you are able to decipher the different levels of their scientific language. Then you can literally peel away layer after layer until you reach the ultimate result: the naked scientific figures regarding the background of these catastrophes.

Unknown Sunspot Cycle Theory Gives the Answer
The answers to these questions are alarming and devastating. All my deciphering points to a complex and ingenious science. Let me explain. When you, as a scientist, stumble upon results that the present astronomers do not know, you have, without doubt, stumbled upon something terribly important. Everybody will have to admit it, and that is exactly what I have done: I discovered an echo of a long-lost technological terminology; a majestic building with immensely sophisticated keys. Many numbers were based on the sunspot cycle, which they had discovered. A theory that is irrefutably correct and not known by our physicists! It cannot be more alarming!

This theory, in turn, correlates with the periodical polar reversals of the earth. I succeeded in cracking the whole puzzle and a large-scale structure appeared. Its development was such that the mathematical matrix ends on the day of the next polar reversal!

Just like the way we count down to the launching of a rocket, they counted down to the End of Times. On the last day of the calendar the magnetic north of the earth will change into the south. They knew this would not only mean the end of their civilization, but also of the whole civilized world!

Solar Lightning Causes the Polar Reversal
From legends and the sunspot cycle theory of the Maya, we can reconstruct the cause of a polar reversal. It has long been known that when a beam of lightning strikes a magnet, a reversal of the magnetic poles takes place. Let's apply this principle on a broader scale.

Our earth is a huge magnet, with its own North and South Poles. A short-circuit with another external "beam of lightning,” or magnet, can end in a catastrophic polar reversal. This means that the magnetic North Pole changes place with the magnetic South Pole. But what sort of external beam can cause this? What force is powerful enough to stop the rotation of the earth and revert it?

Only one object can cause this: our sun. You know from my book, The OrionProphecy that the magnetic field of the sun undergoes a drastic change every 11,500 to 12,000 years. Once a crucial point has been reached, it reverses instantaneously. Chaotic outbursts accompany this phenomenon and an immense cloud of plasma is catapulted into space. Then a shock wave of particles reaches our planet and the polar reversal of our earth commences.

With unknown power this solar lightning strikes our planet and causes a gigantic short circuit. That is the catastrophic truth behind a polar reversal of the earth. But how can we scientifically describe this fact? What is the precise physical cause that produces this polar reversal?

Solar Storms Cause the Pole Shift
In the book Earth under Fire I came upon the correct theory. More precisely, in the chapter entitled "Solar Storms and Geomagnetic Flips." The astronomer Paul La Violette writes “Field flips have been accomplished experimentally, by shooting large quantities of loaded particles on a strong bipolar magnet. These particles are then caught in the magnetic fields and cause a "ring-stream" in them. At a certain moment this stream speeds up to such an extent that the field of the magnet reverses completely.”

In an equivalent scenario the field of the earth can reverse in just the same way. Astronomers know that the particles of a solar storm can compress the earth's magnetic field and temporarily speed up the power of the earth's field.

When the solar particles reach our planet, the electromagnetically-loaded particles will move in a spiral along the magnetic lines: from the magnetic north pole to the magnetic south pole and back. While passing this north-south axis, they will move into the direction of the equator. When they arrive there, they will join into a super powerful "ring current."

This "ring current" generates an intense magnetic field that is opposite to the earth's magnetic field. In order to overpower the earth's magnetic field you need a solar flame a hundred times more forceful than the biggest one we have ever seen. At the reversal of the magnetic field of the sun this degree will certainly be reached.

From here on, my point of view deviates from that expressed by Paul La Violette. Not only will the poles reverse, but also the earth will begin to rotate in the opposite direction! This can only occur when the "ring current" pushes the inner core of the earth in the opposite direction.

Everybody knows that when you change the poles of an electric motor, it will start turning the other way. The same holds for the interior of the earth. When an external short circuit takes place, the core cannot do otherwise but start turning in the opposite direction!

Destruction & Renewed Life
This catastrophe will not only result in the massive destruction of life on earth, but also its continued existence, however incomprehensible this may sound. Let me explain this.
The magnetic field of the earth is not an accident of natural science. Its primary task is to protect us against cosmic and solar radiation. Without this field, life is practically impossible and in a short time, life on our planet would be extinguished. An all-burning, deadly radioactive radiation would torment the earth's surface.

So here we are talking about an incompatible duality: despite the fact that a huge amount of people, animals and plants will die, life will continue to exist, because the exhausted battery of the earth will be reloaded by the enormous solar storm. During thousands of years the magnetic field of the earth can therefore remain stable, protecting the flora and fauna against the damaging radiation. While doing this job, the inner battery of the earth will run out again and another cycle of destruction followed by creation and mutation will start anew.


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[Ahautenites]

Okay.... as one of the resident Kemetics on this board, I feel the need to butt in...

"3. Polar reversals can be calculated precisely on the basis of the sunspot cycle theory or the magnetic field theory, which the Maya and the Old Egyptians were privy to. These secrets are contained in the Labyrinth of Hawara, a huge complex consisting of three thousand rooms. "

Don't know anything about the Mayans (except that they couldn't even predict the downfall of their OWN civilization, nevermind the end of OURS), but the "Old Egyptians" knew no such thing and they never created labyrinths of any kind. (They created deceiving tunnels inside pyramids, but that's not the definition of a labyrinth anyway. Labyrinths have only one way in and one way out. And there are no ways of taking wrong path since there IS only one path in a labyrinth.) So I would really appreciate it people like Patrick Geryl would get their facts straight before they go posting about them to further their little crackpot theories and garner all kind of attention from gullible people online.

[-Sky-]

Me and another member of MW were discussing this too!We were sent signs through visions and dreams about these major changes!My friend has seen the polar shift and I've seen a great war in 2013.I've also seen fire but at the same time flooding...
I don't know if this is a correct theory but I believe it!

[misschief]

well.. i know about the polar shifts, as already mentioned... on top of that (this sounds insane, but i don't care) in about 6-7ish years there are going to be very close encounters with other species, of the 'alien' variety. things are happening behind the scenes, it's just going to take a while for everyone to see it.

[Morning Star]

That is why I'm going to stay in college for the rest of my life, because the world has gone mad. It's filled with masses of trivial people, with trivial beliefs. There is no vision, no dream, no passion. I say, let the ice caps melt, bring on the fire/flooding. War, disease, earthquakes, frogs raining from the heavens and seas of blood, bring it on. Ice Age? I can take it. Global Warming? I can take it. Nuclear War? I can take it.

So, on that note, "Oh Gods! Bring forth these trying times to try the strength and honor of the human race. If we fail, so be it. Let those fit to survive overcome! So mote it be." :)

I suspect, however, that life will continue as it has for quite some time, however. Things are OK all in all. :)

[Sonic Seamus]

So am I getting this right? The whole theory rests on a giant solar flare?

[misschief]

That is why I'm going to stay in college for the rest of my life, because the world has gone mad. It's filled with masses of trivial people, with trivial beliefs. There is no vision, no dream, no passion. I say, let the ice caps melt, bring on the fire/flooding. War, disease, earthquakes, frogs raining from the heavens and seas of blood, bring it on. Ice Age? I can take it. Global Warming? I can take it. Nuclear War? I can take it.

So, on that note, "Oh Gods! Bring forth these trying times to try the strength and honor of the human race. If we fail, so be it. Let those fit to survive overcome! So mote it be." :)

I suspect, however, that life will continue as it has for quite some time, however. Things are OK all in all. :)see... YOU GO!! that's what i think to. bring it on, i can take it.

[Sonic Seamus]

I found a review of Patricks book The Orion Prophecy (http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/orp.htm) and from what is said, Patricks theorys are flawed:

I had high hopes that this book might shed some new light on the 2012 Mayan end-point, but when the most fascinating part turned out to be a mistake, (the retrograde loops of Venus "code"), and the next most interesting item - the discovery (by overlaying sky maps onto a map of Egypt) that the "astronomical Labyrinth" (the Hyades) corresponds to the already known position of the Labyrinth building - also turned out to be wrong; that only left a French translation of the Egyptian Book of the Dead (or Chapter 17 of it, anyway), that has been partly translated into English (by a Belgian), and may contain codes about a catastrophe.

On the plus side, the book gives us access to part of a rare translation of Chapter 17 of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, encoding 3 catastrophes, (for which, as I said above, David Pratt has found corroboration in the Dendera zodiac). On the negative side, there is alot of misinformation in the book, but at least it does not add much to any anxiety we might have about the World ending soon.

When we're ready for another brilliant game, Geryl promises us (p.171), that when we read his "unbelievably accurate" decoding of the Dresden codex, in his next book, that we "will be almost shocked to death". I look forward to it.

[EnrgyRaiser]

When did you get this feeling that something will happen? How did you feel about it? to start with of course...

EnrgyRaiser

[EnrgyRaiser]

I was doing some reading on this topic a little, then this out:
http://www.etemenanki.com
it speaks about the "end game" and speculates something very interesting...

EnrgyRaiser

[EJ1096]

if you drag a screw driver on the back of a speaker it becomes magnitized. if you do it again it will be demagnitized. :bouncysmi
oh and maybe I wont get lost any more. I have the tendency to go the wrong way alot.
And what OH WHAT will be of my poor etch-a-scetch?! I can't draw the cool little stairs any more if the magnets dont work. :bug:

oh but wait I can just drag a speaker across it. YEAH! I got scared.

[Ivy Artemisia]

Well, he's a cheery little bugger, aint he?


http://www.survive2012.com/

Author: Patrick Geryl
I explained abundantly clearly that life after a polar reversal is nothing but horror, pure unimaginable horror. All securities you presently have at hand, like - amongst others - food, transport, and medicines, will have disappeared in one big blow, dissolved into nothingness. As will our complete civilization. It cannot be more horrifying than this; worse than the worst nightmare. More destructive than a nuclear war in which the entire global arsenal of nuclear weapons has been deployed in one blow. Are you grasping the facts?

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[Kadynas]

2012... let's see... to me that's the end of the Mayan calendar and the possible birth of the Age of Aquarius... We're currently towards the end of the Age of Pisces by most sources... it seems we'll see a lot of weirdness as Pisces dies out... already you see religious fanatics all over the world trying to take/keep power... I think it'll get a lot darker before the dawn, and that's not just my paranoia kickin' in.

[AmericanMe]

Funny thing is, those people who get into the whole Bible Code (http://exodus2006.com/3code.htm) thing are predicting a comet (http://exodus2006.com/2012code.htm) strike in 2012.

[AmericanMe]

2012... let's see... to me that's the end of the Mayan calendar and the possible birth of the Age of Aquarius... We're currently towards the end of the Age of Pisces by most sources... it seems we'll see a lot of weirdness as Pisces dies out... already you see religious fanatics all over the world trying to take/keep power... I think it'll get a lot darker before the dawn, and that's not just my paranoia kickin' in.

One thing I've always wondered, what was before the age of Pisces and when did Pisces start? Was there a historical event then?

[Kadynas]

One thing I've always wondered, what was before the age of Pisces and when did Pisces start? Was there a historical event then?
Hmmm... I'll have to do some research for you on that one... But the Ages move backwards through the order of the zodiac, so Before Pisces was Aries, before that was Taurus and so on... :)

Edited to add: though some consider the birth of Christ to be the heralding of the Piscean Age... again I will look it up sometime tonite. :)

[Carickah]

Hmmm... I'll have to do some research for you on that one... But the Ages move backwards through the order of the zodiac, so Before Pisces was Aries, before that was Taurus and so on... :)

Edited to add: though some consider the birth of Christ to be the heralding of the Piscean Age... again I will look it up sometime tonite. :)
Not that I pretend to know anything about it, but I thought that the Age of Aquarius was in the 60s.... maybe it's just that song from Hair that is throwing me off....




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[Kadynas]

Not that I pretend to know anything about it, but I thought that the Age of Aquarius was in the 60s.... maybe it's just that song from Hair that is throwing me off....




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Probably! :lol: The thing is noone really agrees on /when/ the new Age starts, so it gets confusing. So think it started with the milennium, some think we've still got another 200 years! :lol:

Mostly I'm going with 2012, because of some astrological interpretations, and just looking at the current events in the world: terror, war, environmental backlashes... it seems to be very much looking like the Christian's version of the "End Times"... to me the "End Times" don't symbolize the end of the world so much as the end of Christianity's Great Age: Pisces. If you look at the astrological symbolism of Pisces and its opposite sign Virgo, you will find that you can correlate it very well to the Christian religion in many ways. As I've said elsewhere, I /don't/ by any means think this means Christianity is "dying out"... rather that it is losing its "power" or "popularity" as the new Age pulls us towards a more individualized sense of spirituality and a greater sense of tolerant for beliefs differing from our own. But Aquarius has its bad side as well, so don't go expecting the era of Peace and Universal Love that they were singing of in the 60's just yet. :lol:

[Élistariel]

I'm with Morning Star on this one. I believe in the possibility of polar shift, but a sudden shift - no. I don't think it'll be *ball drops - 2012...SHIFT!*
Also, if this shift is destined to bring the greatest of destruction, chaos, torment, etc....
and, it has occured before... why are we still here? :confused:
The greatest torment and destruction doesn't seem to live up to it's name.
Also, there was great panic during 1000 and 2000. Remember how the world was going to end? Um, well the end of the world is FUN! :lol: When do we get to end it again, 3000?
Earth has been whirling around the Sun for like what, 4 billion odd years? I don't think any amount of panicky humans will change that.

[Élistariel]

tossin' in a bit of info here
Zodiac Ages
book - The New Compleat Astrologer, by Derek and Julia Parker, Copyright 1971, 1975, 1981, 1984
(the book contains more info than I am including, but this is straight from the book)
The Great Year
The great year is a period of 25,868 years in which the Earth takes to pass through the infulence of each of the twelves Signs of the Zodiac.
The Polarities
The influence of a Sign is related to that of it's opposite Sign across the Zodiac. This pairing is known as polarity. Aries' polarity is with Libra, Taurus with Scorpio - and so on.
*I'm aware this isn't the polarity that was meant, but I find it interesting that it was mentioned*
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The "calendar". Each "Age" has a little profile under it's representative picture (in my book). If you want the profile, just pm me. (it's a lot of typing)
The book includes the year 0. Um... I put 1 AD... makes more sense.

1000 - 8000 BC Age of Leo
8000 - 6000 BC Age of Cancer
6000 - 4000 BC Age of Gemini
4000 - 2000 BC Age of Taurus
2000 BC - 1 AD Age of Aries
1 -2000 AD Age of Pisces
2000 - 4000 AD Age of Aquarius

[MoonKnight]

This reminds me of Ænema by Tool.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly sh-t, stupid sh-t...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.


(mods. this is only a tiny portion of the song.)

[AmericanMe]

Great Song!!! My favorite from Tool...

[Carickah]

I'm with Morning Star on this one. I believe in the possibility of polar shift, but a sudden shift - no. I don't think it'll be *ball drops - 2012...SHIFT!*
Also, if this shift is destined to bring the greatest of destruction, chaos, torment, etc....
and, it has occured before... why are we still here? :confused:
The greatest torment and destruction doesn't seem to live up to it's name.
Also, there was great panic during 1000 and 2000. Remember how the world was going to end? Um, well the end of the world is FUN! :lol: When do we get to end it again, 3000?
Earth has been whirling around the Sun for like what, 4 billion odd years? I don't think any amount of panicky humans will change that.
Well, polar shifts have happened, there is geological evidence to indicate it, I don't remember the frequency they are to have happened at in the past, but based on that evidence, we are nearing one. As far as what this will do to civilization, keep in mind that this would mean a pretty mean shift in the geomagnetic field. This is the same thing that is affected my solar flares that have caused major blackouts in Canada and the Northern US. Except that this is not going to be limited just to the upper lattitudes, but will cover the whole planet. It may not be too bad, if it happens over a brief period of time and we have enough warning. If it takes its time or if we don't have any warning, it could wreak havoc on anything electric or electronic. And that is not based on the readings of any ancient texts, but is based on scientific observation in modern times. Just something to keep in mind.



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[Dawa Lhamo]

Don't know anything about the Mayans (except that they couldn't even predict the downfall of their OWN civilization, nevermind the end of OURS), Actually, according to my "Ancient Civilizations of the New World" professor, they did. As I recall from my notes, the Mayans predicted the end of the age would be in 950AD. So, when a number of bad things happened - endemic warfare, possibly disease, serious environmental degradation - they didn't really take the steps necessary to properly manage their society, since they knew it would fall anyway. They had that millenialist fatalism that we often see today.

Now, the last Mayan king died in 910AD, so you could say that they predicted it a bit late. We do know that in 800AD, they had a population of 4 to 5 million people (and more dense than rural china today) and by 950AD, there was less than a half million people. According to him, the collapse started in the South and West of the Mayan spread around 900AD, and rolled North in a domino effect over about 50 years. I'm not counting, obviously, the Itzas who were definitely Mayan in culture, but were ruled by something like merchant guilds, rather than kings. The Itza Mayans were something very different from the old Mayan kingdoms.

The calendar itself is very confusing because they have solar (365day) years and venus (260day) years and somehow it fits together every 52 solar years. I don't remember how the ages worked out, but they did have a base 20 counting system. So, I'm not an expert, but that's what I remember from class.

As far as the polar shifts, I think they'll happen, but I don't necessarily believe the circumstances or consequences that the article professes. I think it is possible that it could lead to a massive shift in culture, with a lot of chaos in the intervening years, but my optimistic side hopes that there won't be the massive death and destruction that he talks about. I got enough of that from my older brother (hey, look at this picture of the sun boiling the earth! hehehe) when I was little. Used to scare me so badly... ^_^

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[Wolfscout1]

So am I getting this right? The whole theory rests on a giant solar flare?

Actually by 2012 we are supposed to have crossed the galactic spiral/ passed through it is a better way to say it. This is supposed to be one of the causes of major disruption and our evolution spiritualy and mental changes as well.
indigo kids are said to be prepared for this already ..... another topic

[Morning Star]

You can't stop the end of the world, but you can enjoy your life today. You cannot prevent your eventual death, but you can make a positive change in your life today. You may not be able to prevent great torment and suffering, but you can create great pleasure and joy today.

I say, get eight hours of sleep, eat a balanced diet, exercise at least an hour or two, look good, feel good, work hard and play even harder, because it doesn't matter what happens tomorrow or even if tomorrow ever comes. What matters is what you are doing now. Have no plans, have dreams.

Also, fear sucks. Paranoia sucks worse. Prophecies piss me off. Jesus wasn't God. Human Beings aren't going to become extinct, we are like cockroachs people. Maybe that will be all that is left one day. People and Cockroaches and the people who can stomach that arrangement will be fear factor contestants or really sick MFs.

[-Sky-]

Wow so many answers and so many different things happening in 2012-2013.The interesting thing is that everybody agrees that something big,a huge change,is gonna occur.
Ok I'll give you more details about what I've seen!
First of all,the last year I've 3-4 dreams concerning the end of the world although it wasn't the end after all.In one dream I saw the sun coming closer and burning the earth but some people survived.In my other dream I saw fire and smoke coming from everywhere.In the 3rd dream I saw both fire and water flooding the earth.But in all 3 dreams some persons survived.And I believe that there will come many changes like the polar shift and the flooding of some lands but new lands will appear and the human nation will make a new start.
Now about my vision.Several weeks ago I was talking to a special friend,long story but he sees things,looks into previous lives,fights in the astral plane etc..weird case!.The conversation started when he told me that many of us won't live long to get old.So I asked him why and he revealed me that he and some others have also seen dreams and visions with disasters and changes occuring on Earth in some years.He actually said,it will happen in 2012.I couldn't believe that I would be so young when these will happen..So my stubborn nature insisted that it won't happen then!I suddenly felt great power coming from within,like I could succeed in everything!I asked him what the power is and he said:"realisation,awakening,some past memories and a view of the future".So I said suddenly "2013".And he asked me what do I see in the year 2013.Instantly I had some kind of vision.Firstly I saw me surrounded by yellow light and realised I was succesful.Then I felt love...but not passion,just family love.And finally my heart ached because it was touched by destruction.I saw fire and people fighting!But they didn't only fight with nuclear weapons but one with another too like in past years...The feeling of destruction was so intense that I almost cried...
And that's it!

[Elderbush]

LOL Well said! What I want to know is why no one ever predicts in 2012 (for example) that good things will happen - like the cure for cancer will be discovered, or world hunger eleviated or that suddenly mankind will lay down their weapons and fight no more. Or perhaps there will be a disaster that unites everyone as they never have been before and it ushers in a new age of enlightenment and peace? Or the weather patterns actually improve so that the Sahara becomes a garden?

Why is is always bad things that are going to happen?

[zakzekezedd]

The Mayan Calendar ends with 2012 and that is also the conclusion of the current Venus transit cycle. My take on it is not so much the physical doom and gloom end of the world, but rather the end of this particular cycle of consciouness or awareness. Mankind will be moving to a more spiritually aware state of being. Part of this transition is going to involve resolving a lot of karmic and past life issues between now and the end of 2012. Not always pleasant business, but necessary if we are going to "put our houses in order".

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a strong sense that we will see a major quake on the New Madrid Fault between now and 2012. There may even be an event of a magnitude to destabilize the plate techtonics and trigger major quake and volcanic activity globally but especially in the Pacific rim area and along the San Andreas Fault in North America. Anyway, I don't think I want to be east of Oklahoma/Arkansas border or west of the Continental Divide during the next 8 years or so.

[arctic splash]

It's funny, I just read about big events happening in 2012, in a Shamballa manual I just downloaded. The Mayan Calendar of 26,000 years ends its current cycle in 2012, at the Winter Solstice. It's also the completion of a significant 104,000 year cycle composed of 4 of these cycles. More:

" It is also the completion of a 225-million year orbit of our sun, Sirius, and the Pleiades around the Galactic center. According to many sources, we are in the process of a grand speeding up of Earth's vibrations, so that she changes dimensions by 2012. This acceleration began in 1972, became apparent especially after the Harmonic Convergence in 1987, and continues at phenomenal speed. According to others, we are already changing dimensions, being now in mid-fourth and still going." (Manual -- Shamballa Multidimensional Healing-Part 1)

It's fascinating stuff. And... based on my material... it's a very *positive* change, not a negative one. Something we can look forward to...

[Storm Moon]

I don't know about anyone else, but I have a strong sense that we will see a major quake on the New Madrid Fault between now and 2012.

Oh man I hope not. I don't live too far fromm the New Madrid Fault. There have been predictions that the town I live in (Bowling Green, KY) is overdue for a major earthquake by around 60 years. Scary stuff :lookaroun

There have already been numerous reports of tremors.
http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/

[Silverfire Darkmoon]

This insane thery has everything in common with such crackpots as Graham Hancock and that moron who wrote 'The phoenix Solution'. It's called pseudo-archaeology and I find it difficult to understand how anyone can take it seriously. People have been predicting the end of the world as long as they've known there was a world to predict the end of, and all the new age garbage writers are the ones who foster and nurture these moronic ideas and sell them to others, who mindlessly parrot them.
If a poleshift happened, it would most likely be due to the Arctic Ocean melting entirely, therefore unbalancing the Earth, which would then have to find a new axis, at least according to a lot of people I've heard.
I always get suspicious when I hear people talking about the Mayans. I blame James Redfield and his asinine 'Celestine prophecy'. Even the crap dictated by Kryon makes more sense, and that says a lot.

[Kadynas]

It's funny, I just read about big events happening in 2012, in a Shamballa manual I just downloaded. The Mayan Calendar of 26,000 years ends its current cycle in 2012, at the Winter Solstice. It's also the completion of a significant 104,000 year cycle composed of 4 of these cycles. More:

" It is also the completion of a 225-million year orbit of our sun, Sirius, and the Pleiades around the Galactic center. According to many sources, we are in the process of a grand speeding up of Earth's vibrations, so that she changes dimensions by 2012. This acceleration began in 1972, became apparent especially after the Harmonic Convergence in 1987, and continues at phenomenal speed. According to others, we are already changing dimensions, being now in mid-fourth and still going." (Manual -- Shamballa Multidimensional Healing-Part 1)

It's fascinating stuff. And... based on my material... it's a very *positive* change, not a negative one. Something we can look forward to...
I tend to agree that the end "results" will be more positive than negative... I just think we're going to see some major growing pains, so to speak. :lol:

[Dawa Lhamo]

Oh man I hope not. I don't live too far fromm the New Madrid Fault. There have been predictions that the town I live in (Bowling Green, KY) is overdue for a major earthquake by around 60 years. Scary stuff :lookaroun

There have already been numerous reports of tremors.
http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/Oh, they've been saying that for years; I live ~180miles upriver of the fault. I remember all the earthquake drills in school, and some guy predicting "the big one" and then everyone ran out and bought "supplies" and saved water and everything. Of course, that doesn't mean it *won't* happen, but that one has to be careful about these predictions. I do feel like people really underestimate New Madrid, though.
http://showme.net/~fkeller/quake/movement.htm
http://showme.net/~fkeller/quake/often.htm

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[PoisonIvy]

Sorry,I've never heard of this New Madrid fault line. How long is it,like from what state to what state? I know of the San Andreas fault line.

[Dawa Lhamo]

Sorry,I've never heard of this New Madrid fault line. How long is it,like from what state to what state? I know of the San Andreas fault line.That's all right; a lot of people haven't. It stretches from NE Arkansas, through SE Missouri, the western edges of Tennessee and Kentucky and into the southern tip of IL. The first image attached has seismic activity. In the second, if you see that big flat-looking area, that's where it is. It's a different kind of fault than the San Andreas, so there isn't the same amount of research on it. Actually, though, the earthquake series of 1811-12 produced earthquakes that are still the top #1, #2, and #4 of the contiguous US (excluding, of course, Hawaii and Alaska, which are very active. Including them, they are still top #5, #8, and #15) But, as far as frequency, San Andreas has it beat.

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[Leighla]

Wasn't the earth supposed to shift on 05MAY2000 when seven of the planets came close to alignment?

[lightdragon]

Wasn't the earth supposed to shift on 05MAY2000 when seven of the planets came close to alignment?
I was gonna reply to a few of the earlier responses but since Leighla is the most recent poster i`m start with her.
When i was in school people were precidicting the apocalypse would be in the year 2000. so everyone was all waiting for Jesus to come and kill us all. Making really bad movies like The Rapture or the seventh Sign (the one with Demi moore not the Ingrid Bergman movie). Also throughout the medieval period about every 500 years people were expecting the apocalypse. About every civilization predicted an end.Scientists did already predict a shift in the polar ice caps and other natural disaters,but it would take many years for it to fully happen. Nature doesn`t work that fast. A comet heading for earth that could destroy all life,etc.etc. As far as the Age of Aquarius. some said it occured in 1987 others 1997. others 2000. I don`t know when people will officially proclaim the age of aquarius. From most people we are in it already. As far as 2012 is concerned in my astrology calanders that marks the period of Neptune in aquarius(1998-2012) and it will go into pisces. But i do know that this period was a time of violent changes. The Colum something incident where a couple of kids shot up a school and killed themselves and then a few years later the 9/11 disaster.then a few years later we are involved with the Iraq situtation.before 2012 will come there will disasters where people will die,but not on a dramatic level as these authors state.So far in this area of neptune we are approaching midpoint so for2005 and 2006 should be the worst of it.

[Ahautenites]

Columbine. It's a school named after the wildflower called the columbine.

[SnowyMoon]

I have, all my life, had lots of dreams of seriously horrendous bad weather--I am talking multiple tornadoes everywhere, some of them made of fire--mega firestorms! I have also recently begun to have lots of dreams focused on water and flooding. Lucky for me in all these dreams, I usually seem to be seeking shelter and safety. I always awoke before it ended. I always thought these dreams to be symbolic of other things...or are they? :foh: All I know is I never thought I would live to be old or that most of us my age would at all. I also now feel that my daughter and I will survive and find safety should something happen; and I don't know how I know, I just do. I do see increases in global warfare and violence before it gets better as well, but I think the cosmic/aptmospheric/electomagnetic changes (especially in weather, fire and flooding) will be the real threat we humans will face. But, IMO, we have been through it before and survived, inhabited Mars until its end and survived and even moved on to Earth (my own personal theory) and will do so again. We are a part of that never-ending spiral cycle of things and will continue somehow. That I am sure.

And I hope all the predictions are just wrong, but my inner senses say otherwise. Something is going to happen, I think. It is definately time. But exactly what, I cannot be sure.

[lightdragon]

I have, all my life, had lots of dreams of seriously horrendous bad weather--I am talking multiple tornadoes everywhere, some of them made of fire--mega firestorms! I have also recently begun to have lots of dreams focused on water and flooding. Lucky for me in all these dreams, I usually seem to be seeking shelter and safety. I always awoke before it ended. I always thought these dreams to be symbolic of other things...or are they? :foh: All I know is I never thought I would live to be old or that most of us my age would at all. I also now feel that my daughter and I will survive and find safety should something happen; and I don't know how I know, I just do. I do see increases in global warfare and violence before it gets better as well, but I think the cosmic/aptmospheric/electomagnetic changes (especially in weather, fire and flooding) will be the real threat we humans will face. But, IMO, we have been through it before and survived, inhabited Mars until its end and survived and even moved on to Earth (my own personal theory) and will do so again. We are a part of that never-ending spiral cycle of things and will continue somehow. That I am sure.

And I hope all the predictions are just wrong, but my inner senses say otherwise. Something is going to happen, I think. It is definately time. But exactly what, I cannot be sure.
I could be wrong ,but i think those dreams are symbolic events going on in your own life.Instead of actual predictions of the earth,s climate.

[Morr]

i just read through this entire thread, and i suddenly feel very very very small.

[SnowyMoon]

Morr, why do you feel small, can you elaborate? I am curious.

:hugz:

[AlAskendir]

[QUOTE=Wolfscout1]http://www.survive2012.com/

Author: Patrick Geryl

In my books I reveal the immense cataclysm that is going to torment the earth in the near future.

The gruesome reports of the previous catastrophes should, hopefully, be clear to all.

1. With clock-like regularity, sudden reversals and pole shifts are natural to the Earth. The result is worldwide destruction, and is supported by paleo-magnetic evidence and early manuscripts.

I explained abundantly clearly that life after a polar reversal is nothing but horror, pure unimaginable horror. All securities you presently have at hand, like - amongst others - food, transport, and medicines, will have disappeared in one big blow, dissolved into nothingness. As will our complete civilization. It cannot be more horrifying than this; worse than the worst nightmare. More destructive than a nuclear war in which the entire global arsenal of nuclear weapons has been deployed in one blow. Are you grasping the facts?

The earth will be subjected to total destruction. It will be many times worse than my description. Terrible hunger, cold and pain, and more will rule your daily life: without hope of a quick recovery, because all knowledge and resources will have been completely destroyed. That will be the reality of your daily life after the forthcoming polar reversal. And it is in this scenario you will have to try to survive.
QUOTE]

Well, no it isn't really clear....I mean I understand how perhaps no electrical grids, devices, or even electronic devices will work thereafter for a while, so we might be 'kicked back' in terms of technology for to something like the
1850-s..but that's still massively better than...say...living in Afganistan right now. How will food dissolve..you mean literally? And if food dissolves why wouldn't people dissolve too?
And this will be worse than nuclear winter? Than trying to live with radioactive fallout? How exactly?

Prove to me that you are a rational person and can explain all of this in a way that I can understand.... I don't care why the pole reversal will happen, first I want to know what the results will actually be and why they will be that way.

[AlAskendir]

Not that I pretend to know anything about it, but I thought that the Age of Aquarius was in the 60s.... maybe it's just that song from Hair that is throwing me off....




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the 'first' predictions of a new age coing were at the turn of the 19th - 20th centuries, 190_-s, the Holy Order of the Golden ' Dawn ' - - - Dawn meaning to them the start of the New Age of Aquarius. ' Hair ' came 60 years later, but again is only talking about the 'coming' new age...it hadn't come then, and it still hasn't come. To understand what it means, think of the Earth as a top that is 'wobbling' as it spins. Each wobble is about 2000 years long, give or take, and the 'wobble' moves in such a way that it begins in one or another sign of the Zodiac, going backwards thru the Zodiac list. This 'wobbling' is also called the precession of the equinoxes, and you can porbably get a more detailed explanation on the 'net searching for that.

[AlAskendir]

tossin' in a bit of info here
Zodiac Ages
book - The New Compleat Astrologer, by Derek and Julia Parker, Copyright 1971, 1975, 1981, 1984
(the book contains more info than I am including, but this is straight from the book)
The Great Year
The great year is a period of 25,868 years in which the Earth takes to pass through the infulence of each of the twelves Signs of the Zodiac.
The Polarities
The influence of a Sign is related to that of it's opposite Sign across the Zodiac. This pairing is known as polarity. Aries' polarity is with Libra, Taurus with Scorpio - and so on.
*I'm aware this isn't the polarity that was meant, but I find it interesting that it was mentioned*
------------------------------------
The "calendar". Each "Age" has a little profile under it's representative picture (in my book). If you want the profile, just pm me. (it's a lot of typing)
The book includes the year 0. Um... I put 1 AD... makes more sense.

1000 - 8000 BC Age of Leo
8000 - 6000 BC Age of Cancer
6000 - 4000 BC Age of Gemini
4000 - 2000 BC Age of Taurus
2000 BC - 1 AD Age of Aries
1 -2000 AD Age of Pisces
2000 - 4000 AD Age of Aquarius

Did you drop a ' 0 '...? Or was the age of Leo 7000 years long? If so, why?

[lightdragon]

Did you drop a ' 0 '...? Or was the age of Leo 7000 years long? If so, why?
i think he forgot to add a 0. I have another book which has 10,000 BC for the start of Leo.

[lightdragon]

the 'first' predictions of a new age coing were at the turn of the 19th - 20th centuries, 190_-s, the Holy Order of the Golden ' Dawn ' - - - Dawn meaning to them the start of the New Age of Aquarius. ' Hair ' came 60 years later, but again is only talking about the 'coming' new age...it hadn't come then, and it still hasn't come. To understand what it means, think of the Earth as a top that is 'wobbling' as it spins. Each wobble is about 2000 years long, give or take, and the 'wobble' moves in such a way that it begins in one or another sign of the Zodiac, going backwards thru the Zodiac list. This 'wobbling' is also called the precession of the equinoxes, and you can porbably get a more detailed explanation on the 'net searching for that.

From looking at my own books. i am in total agreement with this statement.

[Morr]

Morr, why do you feel small, can you elaborate? I am curious.

:hugz:


cause during every day life, we are (or at least most people, i dont want to make any generalizations) occupied with ourselves, our lives and our immidiate surroundings...
and after reading such a post, you realize that in the grand skeem of things, you are just another spec. :lol:

i mean, who am i compared to the Eartgh's poles shifting? That is such an amazing power. I have a lot of respect for that - For the earth, the universe, nature, etc.

I'm also a control freak, so things that are WAY beyond my control kinda scare me...

[soilsigh aingeal]

cause during every day life, we are (or at least most people, i dont want to make any generalizations) occupied with ourselves, our lives and our immidiate surroundings...
and after reading such a post, you realize that in the grand skeem of things, you are just another spec. :lol:

i mean, who am i compared to the Eartgh's poles shifting? That is such an amazing power. I have a lot of respect for that - For the earth, the universe, nature, etc.

I'm also a control freak, so things that are WAY beyond my control kinda scare me...I have to agree with you!

[SnowyMoon]

cause during every day life, we are (or at least most people, i dont want to make any generalizations) occupied with ourselves, our lives and our immidiate surroundings...
and after reading such a post, you realize that in the grand skeem of things, you are just another spec. :lol:

i mean, who am i compared to the Eartgh's poles shifting? That is such an amazing power. I have a lot of respect for that - For the earth, the universe, nature, etc.

I'm also a control freak, so things that are WAY beyond my control kinda scare me...
Gocha. ;). I certainly do feel like a spec compared to polar shifting. :holycow:

[AmericanMe]

Well I'm sure Nostradamus said all this would happen _wiz_ It's amazing how a guy that's been dead for 500 years manages to predict everything after the fact. :alol:

[banondraig]

i think he forgot to add a 0. I have another book which has 10,000 BC for the start of Leo.

yep, dropped zero.

[Twig]

The Earth itself has...had a constant frequancy. ( being schooled as an audio tech this kinda stuff facinates me) This was ~7.4 hertz if I remember correctly.

Now, this freq. was a constant. How much so? Well it was steady enough that nuclear submarines calibrated their radios to it! However, they don't anymore. This is because in the last 15 or 20 years ( I have to refind my source and will edit it in later) this frequency has risen to ~12 hertz!!!!

What does this mean? That remains to be seen but the predictions are VERY dire and some are already happening. Increased freq. and intensity of natural "disasters". If you doubt this go to www.noaa.gov and research the stats.

2012 Yeah I belive.

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

[kissesree]

2012 is supposed to be the re-awakening........of the magic world!!!:dancy:

[AmericanMe]

2012 is supposed to be the re-awakening........of the magic world!!!:dancy:

Your not into the Shadowrun RPG are you? :lol:

If you doubt this go to www.noaa.gov and research the stats.

Intersting, though NOAA is a big site, could you post the direct link?

[kissesree]

Your not into the Shadowrun RPG are you?Thats just silly. I am, I love all RPGs, But that has nothing to do with this! I am serious. I dont mean there are gonna be trolls and cloakers running around. :shaker:

[zakzekezedd]

The Earth itself has...had a constant frequancy. ( being schooled as an audio tech this kinda stuff facinates me) This was ~7.4 hertz if I remember correctly.

Now, this freq. was a constant. How much so? Well it was steady enough that nuclear submarines calibrated their radios to it! However, they don't anymore. This is because in the last 15 or 20 years ( I have to refind my source and will edit it in later) this frequency has risen to ~12 hertz!!!!

What does this mean? That remains to be seen but the predictions are VERY dire and some are already happening. Increased freq. and intensity of natural "disasters". If you doubt this go to www.noaa.gov and research the stats.

2012 Yeah I belive.

Peace,
Twig
:elf:
Yes, right now the Earth is going through a massive transition of her own. Her frequency has been changing and will continue to change. There have been and will continue to be shifts, sometimes very disconcerting and uncomfortable ones in not just the energies of Earth, but also in our own energies. Will there be natural disasters? Yes. The tsunamis in Malaysia, Sri Lanka, and Indonesia answer that question. Will the world end in flame and smoke? Probably not. What will end is the rather narrow consciousness that allows someone to observe that "Well, it can't be all that bad because those people didn't have anything to lose in the first place" in reference to the tsunamis. (Truth, I actually overheard this.) I think that ultimately we are going to finally have to become more humane in how we view the Earth and all the living creatures with which we share it.

[BlairTheWarlock]

My county in the US had major flooding this year, more than it has ever happened in history, I thought I should add that...

[Xenojjin]

If it makes anyone feel any better I still havent sensed any super apocalyptic thing thats going to happen in 2012 , but we will most likely be in for some natural disaster trouble for a while .

[SilentDreams]

I say whatever happens, happens. If they can find some amazing way to stop all major changes from taking effect then let them try. One way or another shit will happen and we just need to not freak out. The best thing everyone can do regardless if we'll live for 3 more hours or 30 more years, enjoy life as much as possible. If you sit here for the next few years worrying yourself over the major possibilities then you'll be wasting your time.

[BlairTheWarlock]

I say whatever happens, happens. If they can find some amazing way to stop all major changes from taking effect then let them try. One way or another shit will happen and we just need to not freak out. The best thing everyone can do regardless if we'll live for 3 more hours or 30 more years, enjoy life as much as possible. If you sit here for the next few years worrying yourself over the major possibilities then you'll be wasting your time.

I totally agree with you, in fact... I've been thinking... I've got a loved one I need to visit.

:kooky:
Blair

[Aegun]

Readin all this... its almost like some weird comedy! I do geography and i know of these polar-shifts, but i also thought that they were quite frequent too, far enough, in science - frequent usually means 10,000 years. However I'm amazed that no-one has presented ANY evidence of these previous world-wide mass-destructions. We know of dinosaurs because we've found their bones.

In 10,000 years (taking that as the time between each polar-shift) we've gone from cave-men to a space-faring people (well almost lol:tongueout ). SO, thinking like a practical, logical man we should have found some evidence of a previously advanced culture/race.

I pesonally feel that something is going to happen in 2012, but something as bad as completly wipping out an entire civilisation (well almost) just sounds daft.

Sorry for gettin serious an' all but there are times when people take religion and mysticism a bit too seriously and forget to look at alternate views.

So pls, don't flame me too much lol.:ggrief:

[BlairTheWarlock]

Sorry for gettin serious an' all but there are times when people take religion and mysticism a bit too seriously and forget to look at alternate views.

How can you not take your own beliefs in religion and mysticism seriously if that is where your beliefs lay?

:kooky:
Blair

[Aegun]

How can you not take your own beliefs in religion and mysticism seriously if that is where your beliefs lay?

:kooky:
Blair
Ok, fair enough, i agree.
I guess I'm one of those people who like to look at something from all possible angles. Plus the fact I feel very strongly about this type of stuff probably didn't help either lol.
Sorry if I've offended anyone.

[Akhkharu Asgard]

Maybe someone will perfect magnetism and we can harness the earth's natural magnetism to propell our automocars. Thus ending the need for gasoline and high prices. And then after that happens, the earth will implode, thus killing you all in a hellish flame unlike any that I have ever seen. I, on the otherhand, will be safely hidden in space.

[Sleet]

http://www.survive2012.com/

Author: Patrick Geryl

Pole Shift & Pole Reversal in 2012
In 2012 the next polar reversal will take place on earth. This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction,

Allow me to call BS on this one. The earth will not, repeat not, start rotating in the opposite direction. I skimmed the rest and it reads like a million other pseudoscientific scare articles I've read before.

Don't believe a word of it.

[Akhkharu Asgard]

It's the Illuminati! Shh...they are the ones working together with the Knight's Templar to reverse the position of the poles. But you didn't hear it from me.

[Sleet]

It's the Illuminati! Shh...they are the ones working together with the Knight's Templar to reverse the position of the poles. But you didn't hear it from me.

Behind it all are the Stonecutters, you know.

Who holds back the electric car? They do.



They do.

[Penthesilea]

I've said all that I'm going to say on this subject on another thread. Now, I'm just going to lurk and maybe ask a question or two. Like: as anyone found out on what part of the NOAA website the information about the earth's vibrational frequency is on? I like research as well as the next girl but I don't have the time for it that I used to!! :lol:

[Penthesilea]

I've said all that I'm going to say on this subject on another thread. Now, I'm just going to lurk, see what everyone is else is thinking and maybe ask a question or two. Like: has anyone found out where on the NOAA website the information on the Earth's vibrational frequency is? I like to do research as well as the next girl but I don't have the time for it that I used to!! :lol:

[Akhkharu Asgard]

Behind it all are the Stonecutters, you know.

Who holds back the electric car? They do.



They do.

Oh my! The Illuminati, The Knight's Templar, and the Stonecutters...They must be

THE AXIS OF EVIL!!!

(dum dum dummmmm!)

Run for your lives. The end is near!

[Penthesilea]

Sorry about the double post. I got tangled up in my software. :bangyourh :scream:

[Hærfest Leah]

We learned about the polar icea caps melting thing in my Geoligy class I took a few years ago. My software that came with the book shows a neat video of how much of the country (US) would be covered. The global warming always happens between ice ages and as long as you don't live too far north you'll barely be affected. We are on the verge of the next ice age soon, but we'll all be dead by then. Geology should be required knowledge across the board.

[9-2-2]

Okay, I will tell you guys this much: if a gigantor shift happens in 2k12, hooray. The human race will be destroyed, or changed or whatever... either way, a lot of morons will be eliminated ;)
If nothing happens in 2012, don't be disappointed. Global shifts are not in every probability in the future, but there is supposed to be the rebirth of the Age of Aquarius (least of all), and it's supposed to freaking work this time... not be crushed by retards.
I'm all for the global poof in 2k12. I've seen plenty of futures for it, but not every future has a global poof. Hmm... I think I'll call it global poof from now on, it sounds cute. n_n
I've seen the futures for the global poof... it's weird, I've seen what happens the moment the poof goes, well, "poof"... but the strange thing is, I have only had one successful attempt to scry what happens AFTER the poof. It's like the situation barred me from scrying... pretty damned weird. :)

[Penthesilea]

Okay, I will tell you guys this much: if a gigantor shift happens in 2k12, hooray. The human race will be destroyed, or changed or whatever... either way, a lot of morons will be eliminated ;)
If nothing happens in 2012, don't be disappointed. Global shifts are not in every probability in the future, but there is supposed to be the rebirth of the Age of Aquarius (least of all), and it's supposed to freaking work this time... not be crushed by retards.
I'm all for the global poof in 2k12. I've seen plenty of futures for it, but not every future has a global poof. Hmm... I think I'll call it global poof from now on, it sounds cute. n_n
I've seen the futures for the global poof... it's weird, I've seen what happens the moment the poof goes, well, "poof"... but the strange thing is, I have only had one successful attempt to scry what happens AFTER the poof. It's like the situation barred me from scrying... pretty damned weird. :) Maybe it is because nothing is definite yet? "Always in motion, is the future." Or maybe multiple outcomes are possible. Or maybe we aren't supposed to know too much 'cause it would completely freak out some people. (Okay, a lot of people.) And yeah, "global poof" sounds good. This subject could use some humor. Personally, I just want to see what happens!! Yeah, I know. I'm too curious for my own good!

[Isis-Rayne]

Oh goody .. another 'The world is Ending on X Date' scare.

Aren't there more important things to worry about?

[AdNoctum]

Meh. Why should this "end times" prophecy be any more correct than any other? People have always been saying the world is coming to an end, and it hasn't yet. What makes the Mayan calendar special?

[merlo]

:falloffch We're all gonna die!! *runs screaming in circles waving hands in the air*
Party like it's 1999 err 2012 :fpartyman

[Sequoia]

Didn't all of the frequencies and Polar Special Stuff Things and freakish Space Aliens happen/reverse/come in 2000? Right along with the Millenium Bug that destroyed civilization as we know it.

I mean, we're all sitting around in the bunkers and ruins of Modern Earth, technology all having melted and whatnot. My baby's cradle is an old computer tower casing. I shredded some of the Last Synthetic Cloth to make the bedding.

(In other words... aside from the purely mental aspects of things such as astrology, all of this "the sky is falling" is total bullcrap.)

[bumpinthenight]

Reading earlier posts about... the age of the pisces ending... someone said something about 'dont expect peace etc etc' (sorry i just wrote an essay.. my brain has officially shit down) did nostradomous not predict 50 years of work peace? and if i am correct it would be happening around the same time as 2012?

[raeningstars]

Just a question....didn't we all have this scare when the Aztec calender ended? I believe so. And we're all still here.

I agree with what someone said a few posts back" we have been talking about the end of the world from the first moment we realized what it was. 2012 is going to be.....2012. If something happens, it's something that could just well occur in 2011 or 2025.

[9-2-2]

Whatever change happens, could happen any time. Psychics from past and present have foretold different kinds of crap happening. You don't have to completely believe in it, but don't close yourself off from your awareness of the possibilities. It's just a foolish thing to do, like crossing the street with your eyes closed. :yikess:

[Wolfie Girl]

2012... let's see... to me that's the end of the Mayan calendar and the possible birth of the Age of Aquarius... We're currently towards the end of the Age of Pisces by most sources... it seems we'll see a lot of weirdness as Pisces dies out... already you see religious fanatics all over the world trying to take/keep power... I think it'll get a lot darker before the dawn, and that's not just my paranoia kickin' in.


I can believe that. Mayhaps the peoples of the earth will come to a new conclusion about life in general. Things happen everyday that are "cataclysmic" and by 2010 we will have ourself whipped up into quite the frenzy. I see unrest in ourselves caused by fear stirred up by theese doomsday theories. Bottom line is ..when it is your time to go, it is your time to go. Live life good while your here, but we all pass from this existance sooner or later. There is no stopping it.

^..^

[Wolfie Girl]

I'm with Morning Star on this one. I believe in the possibility of polar shift, but a sudden shift - no. I don't think it'll be *ball drops - 2012...SHIFT!*
Also, if this shift is destined to bring the greatest of destruction, chaos, torment, etc....
and, it has occured before... why are we still here? :confused:
The greatest torment and destruction doesn't seem to live up to it's name.
Also, there was great panic during 1000 and 2000. Remember how the world was going to end? Um, well the end of the world is FUN! :lol: When do we get to end it again, 3000?
Earth has been whirling around the Sun for like what, 4 billion odd years? I don't think any amount of panicky humans will change that.


I remember we were all wondering about Y2K. I was at a party with my friends on New Years eve and while we werer all getting ready to kiss at midnight, on of my friends snuck downstiars. We all counted down and he hit the main breaker. ROFL! We all had a heart attack. It was grand fun.

^..^

[Celene]

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Sorry for gettin serious an' all but there are times when people take religion and mysticism a bit too seriously and forget to look at alternate views.

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Like The Global Warming?

[Aegun]

Like The Global Warming?
Yeah, like that one. I mean, hell, why not?