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Shanti
December 1st, 2004, 02:04 PM
Ok I know nothing about the Fae. Totally clueless because the subject just never struck interest for me.
Problem is:
A family member...married into the family, so dont know her history, she has been working with all things connected to the Fae. What she does and the details...she doesnt say. She is very private about it all.
What I do know is all her magick, power, everything is always based of the Fae.
My problem...she doesnt do 'nice' magick. She does what ever it takes to obtain personal gain no matter who it hurts.
What bothers me is she is hurting people I care ahout and I dont know what to do about it.
I know people can use all sorts of magick for their liking be it nice or not and I am surprised she works with the Fae and is not nice in her intentions. I didnt think that there are any Fae that would help with selfish, hurtful intentions.
Any thoughts?

Lunamoth
December 1st, 2004, 02:19 PM
The Fae are neutral, afaik. They're not "good" or "evil" they simply are. Rather like the gods and goddesses, really. Some have more "dark" aspects, I suppose, but if she's created a relationship with them that works for both parties... *shrug*

I'll pose this question to a girlfriend who follows the Faerie path more directly than I do and see what she says.

Shanti
December 1st, 2004, 02:26 PM
The Fae are neutral, afaik. They're not "good" or "evil" they simply are. Rather like the gods and goddesses, really. Some have more "dark" aspects, I suppose, but if she's created a relationship with them that works for both parties... *shrug*

I'll pose this question to a girlfriend who follows the Faerie path more directly than I do and see what she says. Her relationship is so intense with them that at times I feel like she is one having a human life!!!
But her heart is so cold. Its all very strange to me.

LittleRhiannon
December 1st, 2004, 02:41 PM
The Fae are neutral, afaik. They're not "good" or "evil" they simply are. Rather like the gods and goddesses, really. Some have more "dark" aspects, I suppose, but if she's created a relationship with them that works for both parties... *shrug*

I'll pose this question to a girlfriend who follows the Faerie path more directly than I do and see what she says.

Yep. Fairies are not known for being particularily benevolent. Oh, there are some, but most of the time? The host/unseelie/ect. would capture humans, steal babies, kill livestock, blind people, and all manner of unpleasant things.

I would say that if the fairies are getting something in return, and have no sympathies towards humans, they probably wouldn't have a problem helping with not so nice things.

Wolf O Volos
December 1st, 2004, 02:54 PM
It has been my experience with the Fae that what you put into your meetings with them, is what you get out of it. If you go into the realm of the Fae and bring darkness with you, the Fae that will present themselves to you are those that would help you achieve your darker purposes. If you are to ask the Fae for help with healing, or some other benevolent working, then the Fae you will meet would be of a different temperment.
As for what to do about the person who is using her connections with the Fae to cause harm to others.... I would suggest counter effect based energies, and trying to stay a step ahead of her. Just be careful as to not offend the Fae that she works with, as the lil buggers may not take kindly to outside interferance.
/shrugs not that I know a LOT about the Fae.. just reading up a lot on them lately to aide my daughter who is definately part of the Fae world, and uses its magick.

Aidron
December 1st, 2004, 02:57 PM
Faeries tend to be self-involved and self-centered, which is not necessarily a bad or good thing. Most often they are unconcerned about humans, except for using us as targets for their pranks to further their own amusement.

However, there are many different kinds of fae. From the wailing banshee to the earthy brownie and the downright malevolent (at times) goblin folk. These all can be defined as belonging to the race of fae to some degree.

The new-age movement has turned them into beings of light and happiness, which really could not be further from the truth and quite frankly, is just one more thing that sickens me about the whole new-age movement. Everything is full of light and goodness. Untrue and a flawed perception of reality. There are dark and malevolent aspects (not necessarily one in the same).

If she is disrupting your life, however, you have already taken your first step to discerning a solution: she draws on faery magic to create her discord. Most faeries outright despise iron, so hematite naturally is a perfect selection to difuse, scatter, and ground anything that could be harmful related to the fae. In fact, it repels them, and simply carrying some has earned more than a few people a spot on the "enemies of the fae" list, so to speak. Hematite pendants, or tumbled hematite carried on you (not just with you, on you) will help to shield you with varying degrees of success.

Faery magic in general relies heavily on two things: enchantments and illusions, so guarding against those things can further combat her, if she truly is this much of a problem.

AlAskendir
December 1st, 2004, 02:58 PM
Ok I know nothing about the Fae. Totally clueless because the subject just never struck interest for me.
Problem is:
A family member...married into the family, so dont know her history, she has been working with all things connected to the Fae. What she does and the details...she doesnt say. She is very private about it all.
What I do know is all her magick, power, everything is always based of the Fae.
My problem...she doesnt do 'nice' magick. She does what ever it takes to obtain personal gain no matter who it hurts.
What bothers me is she is hurting people I care ahout and I dont know what to do about it.
I know people can use all sorts of magick for their liking be it nice or not and I am surprised she works with the Fae and is not nice in her intentions. I didnt think that there are any Fae that would help with selfish, hurtful intentions.
Any thoughts?

When a Fae enjoys hurting or mischief, its begins a change into what were called the 'Bolg'. They do exist, and even when not 'bolg' they consume emotional energies that are directed at them by mortal attention. The Fae are not 'angels', unless you interact with some in one or another Deific court, there is no internal morality to guide them. (All in my opinion).

Shanti
December 1st, 2004, 03:02 PM
It has been my experience with the Fae that what you put into your meetings with them, is what you get out of it. If you go into the realm of the Fae and bring darkness with you, the Fae that will present themselves to you are those that would help you achieve your darker purposes. If you are to ask the Fae for help with healing, or some other benevolent working, then the Fae you will meet would be of a different temperment.
As for what to do about the person who is using her connections with the Fae to cause harm to others.... I would suggest counter effect based energies, and trying to stay a step ahead of her. Just be careful as to not offend the Fae that she works with, as the lil buggers may not take kindly to outside interferance.
/shrugs not that I know a LOT about the Fae.. just reading up a lot on them lately to aide my daughter who is definately part of the Fae world, and uses its magick.
Everything you said makes sense in this situation but:
I would suggest counter effect based energies, and trying to stay a step ahead of her. Just be careful as to not offend the Fae that she works with, as the lil buggers may not take kindly to outside interferance. Thats the hard part!!!!! She likes to see others miserable and she succeeds all to well in filling that desire. She cant mess with me or my SO since we are aware and active in protecting ourselves(which has not been easy to say the least) but that doesnt help at all with all the others she is affecting.
And she works her magick everyday, she is quite committed!

LittleRhiannon
December 1st, 2004, 03:07 PM
Thats the hard part!!!!! She likes to see others miserable and she succeeds all to well in filling that desire. She cant mess with me or my SO since we are aware and active in protecting ourselves(which has not been easy to say the least) but that doesnt help at all with all the others she is affecting. And she works her magick everyday, she is quite committed!

Well, you could try taking direct action against her, if you feel the need. Besides all kinds of spell work, if you are ever at her home, or know where she lives, you could leave iron around, to keep the fairies away. No fairies, no magic. I don't actually know if that would work, but in theory it makes sense. To me, anyway.

Shanti
December 1st, 2004, 03:08 PM
Faeries tend to be self-involved and self-centered, which is not necessarily a bad or good thing. Most often they are unconcerned about humans, except for using us as targets for their pranks to further their own amusement.

However, there are many different kinds of fae. From the wailing banshee to the earthy brownie and the downright malevolent (at times) goblin folk. These all can be defined as belonging to the race of fae to some degree.

The new-age movement has turned them into beings of light and happiness, which really could not be further from the truth and quite frankly, is just one more thing that sickens me about the whole new-age movement. Everything is full of light and goodness. Untrue and a flawed perception of reality. There are dark and malevolent aspects (not necessarily one in the same).

If she is disrupting your life, however, you have already taken your first step to discerning a solution: she draws on faery magic to create her discord. Most faeries outright despise iron, so hematite naturally is a perfect selection to difuse, scatter, and ground anything that could be harmful related to the fae. In fact, it repels them, and simply carrying some has earned more than a few people a spot on the "enemies of the fae" list, so to speak. Hematite pendants, or tumbled hematite carried on you (not just with you, on you) will help to shield you with varying degrees of success.

Faery magic in general relies heavily on two things: enchantments and illusions, so guarding against those things can further combat her, if she truly is this much of a problem.
Thank you for the advice!!!!!!!!!!! Enchantment and illusion....wow. She has a gift to enchant people and illusion...I think she has mastered that!! I am very intune to things and I didnt even realize the depth of the matter till recently. The level of illusion was fasnitating to say the least.

Shanti
December 1st, 2004, 03:12 PM
Well, you could try taking direct action against her, if you feel the need. Besides all kinds of spell work, if you are ever at her home, or know where she lives, you could leave iron around, to keep the fairies away. No fairies, no magic. I don't actually know if that would work, but in theory it makes sense. To me, anyway.
We did our own thing to protect ourselves and even though it was not known, she imediately knew we did that. And she was not home so she couldnt of known. She was over 100 miles away on a trip. We only protected ourselves...nothing toward her.
And even though it was our own protection she is angry and working more. How she picked up on us doing our own private stuff, I have no clue and its another thing that is making me very uneasy!!!!

And she lives right by me, about 100 feet away!!!

Lunamoth
December 1st, 2004, 04:00 PM
Heard back from my friend. She's the priestess who married us and I trust she's studied for quite a long time. Her answer isn't quite what I was expecting, so here ya go!

There are evil Fae out there. Most original fairy tales were cautionary stories on how to avoid falling into their traps. The Will-o-the-Wisps (not the escaping gas kind) are one type: they lead travellers off paths in swamps to drown so the WotW can feed off their suffering and death. All the boogums from legend are evil Fae (Slaugh and Redcaps et cetera). That's why people use other names for them, like the "Kindly Ones" so they wouldn't decide to torment anyone who said their real names.
Working with evil Fae, in my opinion (just to cover me buttocks there) are even more of a bad idea than doing just plain evil. Imagine relying on a bomb- dispensing slot machine, or roulette wheel with a VERY short attention span. You can do a lot of damage, but it gets into a spiral. You have to do more and more to feed them otherwise you aren't worth the effort to them.
I'm not too good at just saying generalities, I'm afraid. I can give specifics on how to limit their influence on others... She'll have to get burned for herself, though. Just like anyone else doing evil has to learn on his/ her own, otherwise s/he won't really understand that it's wrong.

Shanti
December 1st, 2004, 04:04 PM
Heard back from my friend. She's the priestess who married us and I trust she's studied for quite a long time. Her answer isn't quite what I was expecting, so here ya go!
Thank you and she can reap what she sows but till she starts reaping I am concerned keeping us and the people I love out of the line of fire and thats been a struggle and for the most part, not going to good and she is working even harder!

BrigidMoon
December 1st, 2004, 04:15 PM
That's interesting. I just learned a ton of stuff on this ... Thanks for asking, Shanti! I really hope this all works out for you. I don't know much about this topic myself. But now I know a bit more now than I did before!

AnFoghlaiBanrion
December 1st, 2004, 04:26 PM
Interesting topic indeed! Thanks for bringing it up... My only relationship with the 'fair folk' is a passingly scholarly one, as I want to learn more about them historically and culturally before I attempt to work with them! Therefore this thread has been quite educational; I hope others can contribute more opinions/information.

Verthandi
December 1st, 2004, 06:34 PM
If she is disrupting your life, however, you have already taken your first step to discerning a solution: she draws on faery magic to create her discord. Most faeries outright despise iron, so hematite naturally is a perfect selection to difuse, scatter, and ground anything that could be harmful related to the fae. In fact, it repels them, and simply carrying some has earned more than a few people a spot on the "enemies of the fae" list, so to speak. Hematite pendants, or tumbled hematite carried on you (not just with you, on you) will help to shield you with varying degrees of success.

Faery magic in general relies heavily on two things: enchantments and illusions, so guarding against those things can further combat her, if she truly is this much of a problem.
I agree. Hematite is an excellent choice. If you carry an iron nail with you, that can ward off faeries. Jasper, particularly red, is a great general protection stone. Obsidian, I believe, helps you see through illusions. You can also counter with your own faery magic; fae have enemies, just as humans do, you could try asking other fae (pixies, maybe--they're very mischievous, but they're enemies of faeries and feel great animosity toward them) for help.

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
December 1st, 2004, 08:14 PM
Hanging a horseshoe above your door will also keep them and their powers away from you. Carrying an iron nail, as suggested above is another very good idea. If there are others who she is affecting that you would like to protect, give them horseshoes to hang as a gift or something.

morrigan
December 1st, 2004, 09:36 PM
But her heart is so cold. .


when it comes to any form of magick its whats in the heart that determines what gets done.. if you have a good heart you will work for the good of all... if your heart is dark/cold then your magickal workings will follow suit..
Blessed Be ~Morrigan~

Fairywolf
December 1st, 2004, 10:18 PM
Someone else has said this as well but........Have you thought about working with the Fae? I understand you don't knwo much about them, but you can learn. I know a little and it seems to me that it would suit in this problem to use them. I Know that there are certian flowers that they detest and that you could give to those that you are trying to protect, they also don't like mirrors if I remember correctly. I am not completly sure on that one. If so then you could make something from mirror pieces that you can get from any craft store cheap. Such as a light catcher etc...I will try and go threw some sites I have or just add them here after I find them. I had to switch screen names and I haven't gotten all of my info yet so it might take me a day or so. :(

dr_zeus440
December 2nd, 2004, 12:38 AM
Hanging a horseshoe above your door will also keep them and their powers away from you.

extending this and thinking offensively, find out where she does most of her magic, and bury one or more horseshoes nearby. or create a "fairy circle" around her workspace...made out of buried iron nails. of course it does involve trespassing on private property...its up to you. or more subtly, think iron filings. oh, along with haematite, id add lodestone to the list.

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 12:45 AM
Someone else has said this as well but........Have you thought about working with the Fae? I understand you don't knwo much about them, but you can learn. I know a little and it seems to me that it would suit in this problem to use them. I Know that there are certian flowers that they detest and that you could give to those that you are trying to protect, they also don't like mirrors if I remember correctly. I am not completly sure on that one. If so then you could make something from mirror pieces that you can get from any craft store cheap. Such as a light catcher etc...I will try and go threw some sites I have or just add them here after I find them. I had to switch screen names and I haven't gotten all of my info yet so it might take me a day or so. :( I wouldnt mind learning but I have no money for books and dont know what is 'good' info on the net!!


And thank you all for the ideas!! I already have hematite around all our necks and looking into some of the other ideas.
I did set up a perimeter around my house with yule log ashes, from last years yule log burn,
but I think her Fae liked them!! http://mysticwicks.com/images/smilies2/sport006.gif
Since she is next to me our yards meet so I put the ash across the yard line. I definitely will try something else!!!

Gracecat
December 2nd, 2004, 02:51 AM
I'd agree with LittleRhiannon and Raven. They're not the nicest things out of the box and even the Seelie are unconcerned if their actions hurt humans. They will be benevolent if it suits their purposes. A few are eager to help humans but on the whole, there are only very few types of fae that are as considerate as.. say a brownie for example. We exist outside of their circle for the most part, we're ants on the sidewalk in most of faery life.

I always have looked at the fae as entities that will help if it suits their purposes. You could ask, but like anything with power, they're very "catlike" in that they'll ignore you until you turn blue if it's out of their way.

As far as using fae to combat her usage of fae... I don't think I'd recommend it. It would be all sorts of hell there I would imagine.

LittleRhiannon
December 2nd, 2004, 06:32 AM
I wouldnt mind learning but I have no money for books and dont know what is 'good' info on the net!!

The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries is available online free at sacredtexts.com. I think that would be a good place to start.

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
December 2nd, 2004, 07:35 AM
Look into websites that are based on traditional folklore and have resources. The Fairy Faith in Celtic Countries is a great start. I can go through my folklore links and see if I can pull up anything else for you. Personally however, I agree that "using" the fae to combat her is a bad idea. I would instead use techniques to nulify their power, such as hanging the horseshoes (or even burying them on her property as dr. zeus suggested. Faeries also greatly dislike the plant broom, so perhaps planting some of that in your garden and again giving broom plants as gifts to those you want to protect would be a good idea.

Seren_
December 2nd, 2004, 11:15 AM
http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/folklore/index.htm

This might be a useful link for you, although it is based on the Isle of Man folklore. There are plenty of stories about malevolent fairies wherever you find folklore about fae, though...they ain't all fluffy and light.

I'd second Morag's suggestion of giving gifts like horseshoes to friends, and especially since it's coming up to Christmas, it won't seem so odd. Iron in general is a traditional way to ward them off. Iron knives, candlesticks, or iron framed mirrors and so on will be just as effective and a bit more subtle, if that's a concern, and you can pick them up fairly cheaply. Bells are also good for it.

Djinn
December 2nd, 2004, 01:55 PM
I agree with the people who are advising cold iron--horseshoes, nails, whatever--to protect yourself from the fae. I was taught that hematite is less successful because it is unworked ore rather than wrought iron, but my teacher had some rather unorthodox ideas.

If you are more offensively minded and have access to the outside of her house, you might try mixing red brick dust and iron filings and sprinkling it across the thresholds. Don't go inside the house, just drop the dust where the doormat would be and make sure that the whole width of the door frame is covered. It doesn't have to be a lot...just a thin line of the mixture will do.

Good luck with this lady. She sounds a right biatch.

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 02:30 PM
Thank you all some more!!http://mysticwicks.com/images/smilies2/circle.gif

I dont want to use Fae to combat her use of Fae. But educating myself in the subject is a good thing to do because if I would of know earlier what you have taught me here, I wouldnt of been caught with my guards down. I assumed a person that appears sweet and works with Fae could never have less than good attentions. And in being in that uneducated bubble was not a good place to be!!!

Being financial tight is a prob, I cant get horse shoes or nails but we will work on ideas here for finding iron.

As for broom...she uses broom. I grow it and she took it all!! She makes little brooms she gives to people. She is obessed with my broom. I have to try to beat her to harvesting it or I dont get any, like this year. Ever since she has been living by me she has been obssessed with my broom.

And the broom I made for the family member she is married to, she burned. He had that broom for several years hanging in his house and she got rid of it. She made her own and hung them in the house now. He also had a very special piece of selenite I gave him and she got rid of it and replaced it with hers!!! All under objection. She makes things her way even if it means coming into my yard to take the supplies. Grrrr

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
December 2nd, 2004, 03:15 PM
I find it odd that she would have no problem working with broom, as it's traditional that the Good Neighbors don't like it and it's a sure-fire way to keep Them away. If she does work with it on a regular basis, I would be concerned as to whether or not she's actually working with Them at all. Is it possible that she's actually either doing this "nasty business" on her own and just telling you that she is working with Them or that she's working with something/one else?

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 03:35 PM
I find it odd that she would have no problem working with broom, as it's traditional that the Good Neighbors don't like it and it's a sure-fire way to keep Them away. If she does work with it on a regular basis, I would be concerned as to whether or not she's actually working with Them at all. Is it possible that she's actually either doing this "nasty business" on her own and just telling you that she is working with Them or that she's working with something/one else?
Thats what I thought but when talking to people that have known her for years including her brother, thats all she has ever worked with. The Fae is all she ever had interest in and her Hubby cant find any evidence at all that points to anything else. Her and the Fae have always been inseparable. Everyone that has known her and knows her now, knows about her pre-occupation with the Fae. Everything she uses is Fae. Her home is filled with everything Fae. She has even made it so her hubbys dragon stuff is out of sight and mind.
Her books, which are many, tarot, her wand, athame's, is all Fae.
She wont pay 2 cents worth of thought to anything unless its somehow connected to the Fae. Thats why I said that sometimes I think she is Fae in a human life!!

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
December 2nd, 2004, 04:11 PM
Don't know what else to tell you then. Try looking through some folklore from Celtic speaking areas regarding the fae and see what you come up with.

LittleRhiannon
December 2nd, 2004, 04:24 PM
Protection Against Fairies (from Faeries by Brian Froud)

Wearing your clothes inside out. It also says that if you turn a glove inside out and throw it in a fairy ring, it will disperse the revellers. Maybe you could toss one in her yard where she can't see it?

Bells
Iron
Crosses
Salt
Rowan and red thread
Mold from an old church
daisy chains
stones with holes (I have one of these...it hasnt really worked so far)
horseshoes
flax on the floor
shows placed with the toes pointing away from the bed
a sock under your bed
a knife under the pillow (doesn't sound terribley safe though, :bug: )
a twig of broom
a pentagram on the door
burning thorns on fairy lands/hills (when she's not home...?)
St. John's Wort

Lunacie
December 2nd, 2004, 04:27 PM
Maybe you could try doing a mirror spell on her to help her see herself as others see her (manipulative, demanding, bossy, selfish, etc). Take a small mirror and using oil trace a rune on the mirror (something like Kenaz for enlightenment / Ihwaz for transformation, Perthro for evolving, or Othala for focus and reflection), then hang the mirror in one of your windows that faces her house. Hard enough dealing with someone like her, but when they're family... ICK. :hugz:

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
December 2nd, 2004, 04:45 PM
Ahh, I completely forgot about the rowan cross tied with red thread. It was on the tip of my...fingers this whole time. Very simple and something that shouldn't cost any money. Again these should be hung above entrances to the home for protection.

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 04:51 PM
Maybe you could try doing a mirror spell on her to help her see herself as others see her (manipulative, demanding, bossy, selfish, etc). Take a small mirror and using oil trace a rune on the mirror (something like Kenaz for enlightenment / Ihwaz for transformation, Perthro for evolving, or Othala for focus and reflection), then hang the mirror in one of your windows that faces her house. Hard enough dealing with someone like her, but when they're family... ICK. :hugz:
Excellent idea..it cant hurt none and I havent thought of that. http://mysticwicks.com/images/smilies/bananas.gif

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 04:53 PM
Whats awsome is all the wonderful ideas that you all are taking the time to post. You never know what will or wont work till you try and you cant fail as long as you are trying. All this variety you's provided sure makes me feel a lot better!

Thank you. :)

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 04:57 PM
P.S.

I ran out of Karma pokes...I'll poke again when I get refilled. You all have been so helpful...I want to all to get a karma thank you! :)

RubyRose
December 2nd, 2004, 09:03 PM
My boyfriend would agree with you in that they are tricky creatures ... benevolent he calls them and michevious.

A while back I had some events unfold that my boyfriend suggested could be the work of the Fae, and the way he said it made so much sense, that made me question, just what aspects faeries contain.

I wouldn't go as far to say that there are evil faeries, but definitely Light and Dark Fae. Just the same as Deities. After all they talk about Fallen Angels, as opposed to Good Angels, so why can't the same be said of Faeries.

Unfortunately, I don't really understand them enough, to get into their heads, so to speak. It's been a while since I've done any work with them.

QUEEN OF THE DAMNED
December 2nd, 2004, 09:06 PM
Try not to worry, remember everything she does (good or bad) will come back to her threefold.
Leave it to Karma :)

Morgandria
December 2nd, 2004, 09:43 PM
Try not to worry, remember everything she does (good or bad) will come back to her threefold.
Leave it to Karma :)


Not everyone believes in the Law of Three, or that karma (the new-age butchered version or the eastern philosophy proper) has any place on their path.

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 09:46 PM
Try not to worry, remember everything she does (good or bad) will come back to her threefold.
Leave it to Karma :)

Not worring..did that...I need to worry so I am not caught off guard ever again!
I wouldnt mind relaxing in that thought but I have seen several greedy and not nice people go to their graves (old too) without ever seeming to have karma get them for many a bad deed. hence, I dont believe in Karma. I belive in cause and effect since that works well. And she causes things to happen so she can get what she wants be it for her shelfish intent or for her amuzment. So her cause and effect works well for her!

So I am creating my own cause and hopefully thanks to great ideas here, my effects will work well too and she wont be hurting people that dont want her effects! :)

Cielamara
December 2nd, 2004, 10:12 PM
The Fey are not evil. Nor can they be called good. They simply are, as mentioned earlier in the thread. Good and evil are human concepts--they wouldn't have any of those concepts; they would probably laugh in your face if you tried to classify them thus. The Fey are not human. The same "rules" don't apply to them at all.
Shield yourself from them if you feel you should. But if you want to rid yourself of the problem, try talking to her instead of blaming things that don't give a flying rat's ass about humans' concepts of morality and "good" actions. A lot of people really don't feel there's anything wrong with personal gain. Tell her that you don't want to try to deny her the right to do as she pleases, but that she's causing problems, and that you'd like to find a way around that. Be diplomatic. If that doesn't work, then I'd suggest you bind her or do something similar.

Shanti
December 2nd, 2004, 11:02 PM
The Fey are not evil. Nor can they be called good. They simply are, as mentioned earlier in the thread. Good and evil are human concepts--they wouldn't have any of those concepts; they would probably laugh in your face if you tried to classify them thus. The Fey are not human. The same "rules" don't apply to them at all.
Shield yourself from them if you feel you should. But if you want to rid yourself of the problem, try talking to her instead of blaming things that don't give a flying rat's ass about humans' concepts of morality and "good" actions. A lot of people really don't feel there's anything wrong with personal gain. Tell her that you don't want to try to deny her the right to do as she pleases, but that she's causing problems, and that you'd like to find a way around that. Be diplomatic. If that doesn't work, then I'd suggest you bind her or do something similar.
I know there is no good or evil. I am saying that all the time. Its only bad when its not what you want and she is doing things that are causing a lot of what people dont want.
If it was as simple as talking to her, the problem would of been solved a long time ago!!!!
She is of a cold heart...she likes it when people are not happy. She is at her best when others are at their worse. Its not just personal gain. She does things to harm others for her enjoyment!!!
And her personal gain by manulipulation and deceit leaving others hurt is not considered a good thing for the family and friends in my circle. Good for her perhaps, but not for others.

RainCeleste
December 2nd, 2004, 11:19 PM
I read in one of my fae books that they don't like windchimes because of the noise. So maybe you can hang up windchimes, they aren't that expensive or you can make your own. :)

Shanti
December 3rd, 2004, 12:24 AM
I read in one of my fae books that they don't like windchimes because of the noise. So maybe you can hang up windchimes, they aren't that expensive or you can make your own. :)
I love wind chimes!! I have some in my yard!!! Hey maybe I should move them closer too the house!!!! :sunny:


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