Contacting a Goddess?

[RubyRose]

Okay in light of my dream and the symbology represented within, I have a couple of choices to investigate.

The two deities being Ariadne and Arianrhod.

I'd also like to investigate The Morrigan more, seeing as she is my Patron goddess, and her name was brought up in my dream.

Now I was just wondering how to go about doing that? I'm not good with meditation, actually I haven't done any work with meditation skills as yet.

But I was wondering if a simply asking questions of a pendulum would give me the answers I seek? Or is there some other method?

This will probably sound stupid, but am I able to ask for a sign to tell me which deity it was that visited me in the dream? Like say a crow feather from The Morrigan etc

[Moonlight's Daughter]

First of all you might want to reserch all three, books, websites ect. You can scry, also since the information came to you in dreams you can make a concious effort to remember your dreams as more information might come that way. You can also build up your meditation by doing a specific amount of time, then slowly going for longer.. I am not that good at meditation either. I hope that helps!

Brandiwyn

[Morgandria]

If you're not good at meditation, design a ritual. I wouldn't combine them all in one - I would do a ritual for each individual goddess. Research their symbols and correspondences, and then do a small ritual - light candles and incense, introduce yourself, speak your heart to them, and then ask them for a sign, if they wish you to know them better.

It'll sort itself out in short order, and nothing beats directly asking a goddess or spirit or whatever who they are, and if they want something of you.

One other thing: if The Morrigan is your patron, you should be communicating with her, either through prayer, meditation, or small propriatory rituals each and every day. There is a level of expectation on both sides of the relationship, and you shouldn't expect her to lead you along a trail of bread crumbs. You also definetely do not want to wait for HER to decide to make contact because you've neglected to.

-M.

[Wiccamagikal]

Can someone explain to me what is a parton, guardian and etc for a friend, I myself do not know what a patron is...wow..lol umm..I think I know what a guardian...is. lol So if anyone could let me know the defs. of this..Id really appriciate it

[Moonlight's Daughter]

Here is the definitions in websters online dictionary:

1 a : a person chosen, named, or honored as a special guardian, protector, or supporter b : a wealthy or influential supporter of an artist or writer c : a social or financial sponsor of a social function (as a ball or concert)
2 : one that uses wealth or influence to help an individual, an institution, or a cause
3 : one who buys the goods or uses the services offered especially by an establishment
4 : the holder of the right of presentation to an English ecclesiastical benefice
5 : a master in ancient times who freed his slave but retained some rights over him
6 [French, from Middle French] : the proprietor of an establishment (as an inn) especially in France
7 : the chief male officer in some fraternal lodges having both men and women members


For me, its number 1 that explains it best.

http://www.m-w.com

[Wiccamagikal]

OH ok I get it now,,duh...lol! Well, I thank you for your kind reply....

[Anubis RainHawk]

If you're not good at meditation, design a ritual. I wouldn't combine them all in one - I would do a ritual for each individual goddess. Research their symbols and correspondences, and then do a small ritual - light candles and incense, introduce yourself, speak your heart to them, and then ask them for a sign, if they wish you to know them better.

It'll sort itself out in short order, and nothing beats directly asking a goddess or spirit or whatever who they are, and if they want something of you.

One other thing: if The Morrigan is your patron, you should be communicating with her, either through prayer, meditation, or small propriatory rituals each and every day. There is a level of expectation on both sides of the relationship, and you shouldn't expect her to lead you along a trail of bread crumbs. You also definetely do not want to wait for HER to decide to make contact because you've neglected to.

-M.

I completely agree. You might also work with other methods of divination to communicate. I would strongly suggest tarot for this. The best adive to communicate with a deity is to let Him/Her speak. Release your emotions to the deity and let it speak you you. This can be as simple as a prayer( you speak) and meditation(deity speaks).

Anubis RainHawk

[RubyRose]

Thankyou! :hugz: all round.

I was telling Rhyce about my dream today, and he immediately came up with the Goddess Lolth ... but from what I know of Drow, its fantasy...

[nia]

DEFINITELY dont wait for the morrigan to come and find you becasue you've neglected her.

if you dont mind my asking, and by all means tell me it's none of my business, what makes you think of her as your patron?

[Cathubodva]

oh im so glad i found this thread....
Nia, and others that seem to honor The Morrighan...what do you do, or what can you do to please Her when you so foolishly neglected Her? Any ideas?

[Morgandria]

Like I told RubyRose: Ask. Ask The Morrigan what she will accept, and she might tell you. Depends on how much you've pissed her off.

Me, I don't neglect her, period.

[Mnemosyne]

Divination is a good idea. Divination helps you tap into your subconscious thoughts. Pick what method works for you. But these methods involve being to make your mind at ease and able to meditate. I suggest trying to put your body and mind in total relaxation so you are able to meditate easier. But then again, if the whole process stresses you out, it completely defeats the purpose. lol.

[RubyRose]

I can't really say that I do neglect Morrigan on a daily basis. I mean I know I don't light a candle in honour of Her, each night, but She does play on my mind alot. And I do have symbols related to her on my altar.

But lately with my life so busy and unorganised, I haven't had much more time or energy besides that to devote to her.

[Morgandria]

Your intention is there...but not the energy. If the symbols are dusty on the altar, she knows. I'm surprised she hasn't asked for her own shrine yet. She doesn't share well, in my experience. It doesn't take a lot to light a candle and a stick of incense each day. Thinking about her is good, but it's not the same act of devotion as the other. Thinking about her gets all mixed up in all the other thoughts in your head - it's not really clear, and unless it's like a daily meditation on the Morrigan, it's not an act of devotion.

She gave you a call, once - for whatever reason, she wanted to teach you something, and be part of your life. If you don't try to devote even a small part of your day to her, she isn't gonna stick around. It's like a painter and their patron - if the painter doesn't paint, the patron doesn't look after them and eventually just lets them go.

If The Morrigan is your patron, you are a chosen priestess serving at her altar. That has duty attached to it. If you aren't ready or able for that committment, well...maybe you need to tell her that. It's perfectly fine to honour and work with a deity without them being your patron...and she might just have been saying "Know me better" than "Serve at my altar".

-M.

[nia]

I was involved in a discussion on another board, and something i wrote there seems appropriate - i'll edil it to make it sensible, but here we go:

the assumption a lot of people make is that the deity in question is loving.
i dont hold any preconceptions that the deities i work with love me. to me, that is not their purpose. thisngs need to be done, and if the deity in question is all about sharing love, or if the relationship you have is one where love is involved, then good for you. but i dont think that the worship of a deity should necessarily have anything to do with love. it is also respect, honour, belief, connectedness, communing.
in point of fact, i do believe that the deities i worship may love me, but from one of them it is definitely a hard love, that doesnt involve being gentle and soft, but in making me do the things that i need to do for my best interests in thel onger term, even if right now its the last thing i want to do. so far She has proved to be right, and i am starting to appreciate that maybe i should listen to her before she feels i need a sharp ding round the ear.
i am very cautious about using any words such as worship, revere, subjugate, adore, devotion, celebration.....
as far as my relationship with my deity is concerned, that is not what she wants. she wants me to pay attention to what she has to say, adn act upon it. she wants me to be strong, and in some respects independent, and to not take the shit that the world chooses to throw at me without a fight. she does not want me to be on my knees in homage, or begging a few scraps of her affection if she can be bothered to spare them, becasue the minute i start to behave like that she'll have nothing more to do with me.
the best i can give her is me. competent, capable, strong minded, strong willed, and working hard. the praise and adoration is not needed through gifts and words, but through the demonstration that i have heard her and listened, and done as she required.

And maybe....it shouldn't be such an easy thing. To love/worship...

if it was easy, and didnt take any effort, there would be nothing special about doing it. it would be something you could take or leave as it suited you.
'the higher the difficulty, the greater the glory in surmounting'.
and in this case, the glory goes to those who we honour. so the greater the difficulty of the task we undertake, the more glory they receive because we did.

which is why we do.

[Ivy Artemisia]

I would work on your meditation skills and then use those to contact the God/dess. Its the easiest way for me. Other than that, you can just pray, which is a simple way to contact her... just without meditation, I've found that its tough for Her to talk back to you. :)

[Cathubodva]

Morgandria, Nia, a heartfelt thank you for your replies...they are really full of wisdom.

[RubyRose]

Thanks guys.

I think I'll start the 'I'm sorry I've neglected you' ritual today.

Time for me to get back into all this again.

[AlAskendir]

Okay in light of my dream and the symbology represented within, I have a couple of choices to investigate.

The two deities being Ariadne and Arianrhod.

I'd also like to investigate The Morrigan more, seeing as she is my Patron goddess, and her name was brought up in my dream.

Now I was just wondering how to go about doing that? I'm not good with meditation, actually I haven't done any work with meditation skills as yet.

But I was wondering if a simply asking questions of a pendulum would give me the answers I seek? Or is there some other method?

This will probably sound stupid, but am I able to ask for a sign to tell me which deity it was that visited me in the dream? Like say a crow feather from The Morrigan etc

Welll, maybe (pendulum-wise). A pendulum is going to give you answers from your subconscious, but since your subconsious is the link between you (your conscious mind) and your higher self, and since your higher self probably already knows this stuff but in any case will be the part of you doing the most communication with your Deities anyway - - - yah, that could work.

Be careful designing your questions though.

You are indeed able to ask, and to expect a clear answer. That wasn't a silly question at all.

Have you been dedicated yet? Even if you are a solitary, there are some fairly easy ways to design/ participate in a ritual that summons avatars of these Goddesses for you to meet and dedicate to (if that's what you intent is). Search for 'dedication rites'. The research would be a good idea anyway, for it should guide how you design the calling (invocation or evocation).

[AlAskendir]

Thankyou! :hugz: all round.

I was telling Rhyce about my dream today, and he immediately came up with the Goddess Lolth ... but from what I know of Drow, its fantasy...

Yes! Exactly, pure fantasy!!

I'm a gamer nyself and while I have no problems with real Deities in games, let's leave fantasy Deities of fantasy races in the games where they belong.
One of the many problems with using 'Lolth' is that you would be likely to get some female Deity of the Nordic Dark Elves, which make Drow seem like...I dunno....Ronald McDonald.