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StormVixen
December 19th, 2004, 03:21 PM
hi everyone :reindeer:

ok my patron god is the horned god, but i cant seem to figure out who my matron goddess is! i know what she looks like and stuff and ive tried very hard to find out her name but it hard! so i was just wondering if i write down what i see maybe you could throw some names at me and ill do some reserch.

here it goes:

at the moment i call her the wood woman, and i think she is a triple goddess but she might be a mother goddess, she wears green, she always has a fox at her side (but that might just be my vixen making an apperance!) she has pale skin, she is kind, she is part of nature and doesnt like civilization.

thanx

Fang of Loki
December 19th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Do some research into the Celtic goddesses Kerridwen, Epona, & Coventina.

Toby Stimpson
December 19th, 2004, 10:13 PM
A Triple Goddess, or a Mother Goddess. and has a fox by her side...hmmm, I would do a check on some websites on animal associations, or totem animals. Find a correspondance chart and see what Goddesses Foxes are connected to. What color was the fox? It could be that it was a wolf...Namaste

Tobias

Loopaleigh
December 20th, 2004, 12:21 AM
There is a Japanese Goddess called Inari that is associated with foxes and is sometimes portrayed as a vixen or femal fox. She can also appear as a young woman or a very old man. She is associated with rice growing, fire, smith crafting and a long life. In death she is said to guide and protect spirits.

StormVixen
December 20th, 2004, 11:31 AM
thanx everyone!

i was reserching some of the goddesses you mentioned and came accross Druantia i dunno if its her tho (continued recerch and meditation and dreaming is needed!). the fox is definatly a fox (twas too small and red to be a wolf).


:thumbsup:

StormVixen
December 20th, 2004, 11:44 AM
ok apparently Druantia is made up! er... the search goes on... :reading:

StormVixen
December 20th, 2004, 11:58 AM
hmm yeah i think she is because all the info on uk web pages say exactly the same thing! oh well...

Loopaleigh
December 20th, 2004, 02:20 PM
You could very well be right about the "made up" part....I found this at www.hobsgreen.com.

Apparently the one and only reference to her that everyone is using can be traced back to Robert Graves book, the White Goddess and he conveinently doesn't list an historical source material for her.

The problem with alot of these Celtic, Gaulish, and other European goddesses is that they were often local deities worshipped only in a small geographical area with all infomation about them being passed from generation to generation through oral traditions.

She could have very well been a goddess, or some nature spirit/being left over from local legend.......or.......she could have been an attempt on the part of Robert Graves to prove his theories.....who knows.....I say, if you like her and she is speaking to you than keep investigating.....:)

StormVixen
December 20th, 2004, 03:05 PM
er... please throw more celtic goddess names at me... and if you know any websites that have lists of locally worshipped goddesses

thankyou

:broomride

Loopaleigh
December 20th, 2004, 03:34 PM
Hi stormvixen....I have to log off and go do some Christmas/Yule errands....but I'll be back later with some links for you! _catroll_

StormVixen
December 20th, 2004, 04:19 PM
i have to work on yule! i have to perspone it till xmas! im going to meditate under a yew tree, and cut a branch for my b/fs yule pressie... runes! anyway thanx!

Loopaleigh
December 20th, 2004, 08:18 PM
Ok, I went ahead an posted them so they would be here when you got back, because my memory for things is notoriously terrible!

www.mythinglinks.org
A resouce page(s). Lots of links an info abuot other sites, regions of europe, mythology and folklore.

www.wiccanhistorian.home.att.net/homepage
This has several pages of local celtic gods and goddesses. Just look under the "deities" section.

Happy Yule! :elf:

MoonKnight
December 20th, 2004, 08:41 PM
Dia Griene
(Scotland) The daughter of the sun, or possibly a sun God - in ancient Scotland. She appears in a folktale in which, held captive in the Land of the Women, (a synonym for the Otherworld) she is freed by the Cailleach, disguised as a fox, and a helpful young man named Brian. Her name means "suns tear". Archetypally her legend serves as a metaphor for reincarnation.
http://www.joellessacredgrove.com/Celtic/deitiesd-e-f.html

Dia Griene
The daughter of the sun in ancient Scotland. She appears in a folktale in which, held captive in the Land of the Big Women, she is freed by the Cailleach, disguised as a fox, and a helpful young bumbler named Brian.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/dia_griene.html

Inari
The Japanese god of food or goddess of rice. Inari is one of the most mysterious deities of Japan. He is both male and female. Each year he/she descends from a mountain to the rice fields. The fox is Inari's messenger and it is believed that he/she can assume a fox's shape. The deity may also assume the shape of a spider in order to teach wicked men a lesson. Inari is portrayed with a beard and carrying two bundles of rice.

An Inari-shrine can be found in many Japanese towns and in many households he/she is venerated as a symbol of prosperity and friendship. These shrines are guarded by statues of foxes, divine messengers. Inari's central temple is Fushimi-Inara in south-east Kyoto city, built around 700 CE.

Inari the rice-goddess is celebrated in a festival held during the first days of spring when cultivation begins. She may be identified with the Indian Lakshmi and the Javanese Dewi Sri. Inari is also sometimes identified with Uga-no-Mitama, the goddess of agriculture.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/i/inari.html

Fang of Loki
December 21st, 2004, 01:04 AM
er... please throw more celtic goddess names at me


Arianrhod
Scathach
Blodeuwedd
Flidais
Caillech
The Morrigan
Sequana
Nemetona


There are 8 of them for you.

StormVixen
December 22nd, 2004, 03:17 PM
aaah thanx...

what i know is she is a celtic forest goddess from england (not ireland, scotland whales etc) so do any of you guys knoew any good sites that seperate the celtic gods into there regions... if you know what i mean...

cheers

StormVixen
December 23rd, 2004, 09:31 AM
ok this is what i have so far:

Druantia
Flidais
Arduinna
Nemeton
blodewedd

but none of them seem totally right, but they have the right kinda atributes... i guess ill know sooner or later tho.... il just have to keep researcging and stuff... thanx everyone

StormVixen
December 23rd, 2004, 01:28 PM
i think its flidais but im confused because ive never done irish before! maybe theres an english version of her...!

nia
December 24th, 2004, 10:55 AM
she does sound very much like the mother/maidn aspects of Cerridwen.
the mother aspect is very complex in her, and can lean very much towards the maiden end, or towards the crone. i tend to meet her in the middle to crone ends of mother, and as crone totally. but it does sound very much like her.

she is an amazing woman.

just as a point of thought, as something that has been scurrying around my brain recently, and i'm totally enjoying the 'coincidence' of meeting it here at just that same time, i have been considering the idea of a 'green lady', a consort to the green man. there are many dieties connected to the horned god, or cernnunos, or the god of the wild hunt, but i donthtink i've ever come across one connected to the green man, other than mother earth, gaia. The concept of a green lady, who is his female conterpart seems so natural and obvious to me, that i cant believe it's taken me so long to see it, or to meet her, but when i did she looked almost exactly as you describe, minus the fox. she is strong but gentle, abhors what we call civilsation, machines, houses as we know them, and the damage we do to the earth. she is incredibly warm and kind. i think we met the same lady! i know her as the green lady, but that is the name i projected onto her, as she didnt give me one.

im working a lot with the green man at the moment, and will ask him about it, and see if she returns.

let me know if you get anywhere, and i'll keep you posted.

i do love it when stuff like this happens!

StormVixen
December 26th, 2004, 09:25 AM
yeah the green lady does make alot of sence to me and the fox is probsably because my "spirit guide" is a fox, the thin is tho i see the horned god (cernunnos/hearn.... sorry cant spell!) as the same god as the green man, so the green lady should have a name aswell! hmmm... ill go to some woods sometime soon and do some "thinking"... do gods really need names or not?! does it matter... im so confused! :hmmmmm:

nia
December 26th, 2004, 11:10 AM
to me, the green man and cernnunos/the horned god are very very different deities, with different purposes and different attitudes. they live different lifestyles. they are just totally separate entities, as odin and thor are.
i do agree tht she doe sprobably have a name, but at the moment that is something which, for me, can wait. i'd rather get to knwo her and meet her and work with her, adn if we build some form of relationship, she'll eventually let me know who she is.

btw, blodewedd is definitely welsh. druantia and nemeton ring bells with me, but i honestly couldn't tell you why. possibly becasue nemeton rings of a similar word root to nemain, the moon and water goddess, and druantia makes me think of the word druid, which would seem appropriate for such a divinity. just pondering straight into the keyboard now, please forgive rnadom ramblings.......

StormVixen
December 26th, 2004, 12:54 PM
yeah sorry what i meant was i see the horned god and the green man as aspects of the same entity... although they have different personalities... hmmm...

StormVixen
January 2nd, 2005, 02:48 PM
ok now im thinking flidais... but i cant find much info on her... i wanna go out to some place far away from anywhere so i might be able to contact her easier (because aparently she doesnt like civilization!)

aparently she is the consort of the horned god and seeng as he is my patron she might be my matron!

StormVixen
January 23rd, 2005, 11:06 AM
now im thinking rhiannon... hmmm...