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Tabbykitty
December 27th, 2004, 03:51 AM
Hi Folks,

I thought I'd share this incident with ya all here to see what ya think.

Recently I got to know a group of people in my locale that consists of psychically gifted people, shamans and magick practicioners who study and discuss various aspects of stuff like meditation, the history of magic and other things.

It is a mixed bunch, some are older people and some are just out of their teens (20+). Currently Im a hanger-on who just sits around drinking tea and listening to what they have to say.

When I got there, I noticed that one of the members of the group, a rather brash young man who had joined them around the time I did, wanted DESPERATELY to be able to SEE supernatural stuff... like well.... ghosts, energies, entities..... you know, sorta like if you had the sixth sense. I think secretly he also wanted to be able to cast powerful spells and stuff.

THey had talked to him about how it may NOT be a good thing to be able to see ghosts and about how casting spells affects karma. And the importance of maintaining good karma etc. But the more they told him about it, the sulkier he got. I think he probably knew about the effects of karma but didnt really care about the consequences.

Finally I think one of the psychics got SOOOOOOOOOO fed up with his sulking that a few of them had an "aside" meeting to talk about this young fella and what to do with him. Finally one of them went to the young man and asked him if being able to see stuff was what he really wanted. He said yes apparently when I passed by to try and overhear their conversation.

Later they took him to a moonlit courtyard and made him stand in a circle of sorts and one of the magi... I think this fellow was highly irritated by the brashness and foolishness of this young fellow, stepped forward and asked the young man aloud if seeing entities and ghosts was what he really wanted. He said yes. He then asked if the young man was willing to take on ALL the karmic fallout (good and bad) of this particular action they were doing for him and the gift he was about to receive. HE SAID YES!

I was like..... WHAT????!!!!!! Well I thought about running over and clapping my hand over his mouth or something, but that would have meant breaking a circle of people standing around him. So I just stood and watched

During the ritual, each of the members of the circle said some words/phrases and drew certain symbols on the young man. Im not too sure what they are cos I was standing a little distance away. Allegedly, the thing they did could open up the young man's third eye and telepathic channels making him able to see and hear all that he desired to.

When it was done, I overheard the circle saying that the spell will take effect in 3 days.

I looked at them wondering if there was indeed such a spell or magic that can open a man's second sight. Well, after the ritual, the young man seemed to sulk less. I guess he believed he had gotten what he wanted.

What d ya all think of this? Do you think they really gave the young man what he asked for? Or, did they just put up some kinda show just to make him think he could now see the unseen world?

asamananara
December 27th, 2004, 05:29 AM
Heh. I guess you'll find out in a few days.
Perhaps you'll learn to be less brash and foolish in the future.

Rick
December 27th, 2004, 02:16 PM
Yes, do let us know how it turned out... and if the brash young fellow got EXACTLY what he asked for... :hehehehe:

Rick
December 27th, 2004, 02:17 PM
...maybe at the next gathering, they'll take pity on him & teach him how to shut it off...

Lady Jade
December 27th, 2004, 03:41 PM
I suspect a nasty headache ensued and now he is harshly realizing this may not have been such a good idea.

Teresa
December 28th, 2004, 03:15 AM
I am betting that he will regret his brashness !

Djiril
December 28th, 2004, 05:10 AM
I think that whatever they did, they probably shouldn't have. I suppose many people have a harsher sense of justice than I do, but there are worse crimes than being brash, and it sounds like if what they did works it could carry a very high and irreversible price. (Unless they are just messing with him, that is.)

I must admit I am also curious to find out what happens.

Aidron
December 28th, 2004, 05:44 AM
What do I think? I think everyone in that situation lacked wisdom, common sense, and generally was full of it.

Between the whiney lil' boy who was pouting because he couldn't have his way and the moral pioty of those idiots spouting on about karma (and unless any of them were Hindus they need to keep their mouths shut, because few people outside of the Hindus truly have a grasp of what karma is) and bombarding him with their moral ideals.

I would rolled my eyes, left, and never bothered with these drama queens again.

Elfa Wylde
December 28th, 2004, 06:24 AM
I just want to say.. that while it may not have been the most prudent thing in some folks' eye to cast such a spell for/on someone...
I have had experiences with EXACTLY that kind of fellow.... They are convinced that they would be THE most powerful, amazing, famous "wizard" in the history of majik "if only" they could get that thrid eye open..... or "remember" all their spells from a "past life" etc etc etc....
but.. when you try to explain that even IF they did all taht hollywood-style majik in a 'past life' it's not possible in this life and they have to start at the beginning again... then you start telling them how they need to remember Karma, etc etc like the group did with this fellow....
But RARELY (and for me it's only a story told to me by the friend of the friend of the cousin of the person it happened to) the guy actually listens... begins to learn... realises what a dork he'd been, and really becomes a well respected pagan ...
My personal exerience is that they just keep believing more and more crap, like that you CAN fly if only you could remember where you hid your broom in your past life... that the "big secret" is that he's "really a young God, incognito, down here to learn some kind of lesson because he was a naughty boy and his mother (the Goddess) sent him to his astral room..."
I say.. honestly... in my own humble opinion, these people know EXACTLY what they've done to him.. they know very well when he'd be like if they didn't show him... and this kid's getting EXACTLY what he asked for... he'll soon come to them.. realising what a dork he'd been... realising just how FAR from having a clue he'd been... and they'll take the spell/curse off him.
Good Luck to all!

dr_zeus440
December 28th, 2004, 09:13 AM
it would seem poetically just for the young man to receive what he wanted, only to have it come back and bite him on the proverbial, but please, since when is the world a) poetic, OR b) just. its horsepoo to say "oh, im sure it worked, and he'll be begging for mercy come sunday evening"...but how the hell can you claim to know that? you cant. it may have worked, it may not have worked. if it worked, it may be satisfying to the brash young man, it may not. either way, please gracefully/lessly bow out of this hollywood-style, melodramatic and fluffheaded idea that people get their just desserts. or just dont make statements that you cant support, preferably.

what do i think of this? hmm, you know, i dont really care. if circles of irrated "magi" want to turn stupid, demanding twits third eyes all way up loud to cause some kind of vengeance and satisfy their desires to be condescendingly smug, well, good for them. its their magic, its their call. i would, however, suggest that a fork to the eye tends to be the very best kind of vengeance, and that the fastest way to get what you want is to stop whining and do something about it.

Tabbykitty
December 28th, 2004, 11:46 AM
Hmmmmmm Im kinda reading all ur replies and I dunno really what to say because Im just a newbie when it comes to things like this. At this moment, all I am doing right now is just going about my business and waiting to see what happens. Tomorrow is the 3rd day since the spell, I wonder what is going to happen.

A friend of mine gave him a call, and apparently, his physical vision is "clearing up". I dont know what that means, but Im holding my breath.

Anyway, I think this is just about the worst time he can pick for having this thing done for him because I live in Asia, rather near to where the tsunamis occured. Just last night, several psychically gifted friends had visitations from troubled, angry and frustrated souls who were lost and were lashing out at people. The only right thing to do was to talk to them and guide them towards the light. I wonder if this young fellow will be able to recognise and communicate with spirits of the recently departed without freaking out. :P

Druchii
December 28th, 2004, 11:51 AM
I think they enchanted his eyes so that upon the 3rd day a sheet of wool the size of alaska would be pulled over them... :lol:
No, I think they were messing with him. I would have, but that's just me. :)

Tabbykitty
December 28th, 2004, 02:19 PM
Actually, after reading all the posts I kinda wanna find out what they DID cast on the young man. Well, I am thinking of a plan to approach the irritated magus for an answer since he led the entire ceremony, er.... lets call him Pete for convienence.

Probably on a day when I am free I'll pop over to Pete's place with a bunch of freshly baked cookies. I certainly hope tea and a lot of cookies might loosen up his tongue a bit ;)

Tabbykitty
December 30th, 2004, 12:35 PM
Hi everyone,

guess what, I and a few friends checked on the young man and apparently, the ritual/spell/watever they did on him worked..... just not in the dramatic way that we all envisioned.

Well, by the 3rd day, he STILL could not see ghosts and entities and stuff ... and I thought that the magi's spell didnt really work and that they were just pulling his leg. A friend of mine, who is rather good with words decided to find out what was really going on inside the young guy's head.

After talking to him a bit he figured out that, the MAIN reason the guy probably couldnt see anything was because:

1. he had really lousy sense of observation and perception (3rd eye or no 3rd eye)

2. he was really dense

3. even if he COULD see stuff, he couldnt recognise them. Its like, if a ghost passed right in front of him, he would see the ghost but not know it was one. :P


When I heard the results, I was like..... WHAT??????

My eloquent friend who is a clairvoyant himself noted that the brash young man's 3rd eye was indeed open. When I heard it, I well, was almost beside myself with laughter.

I said to him: "Lets drop the idea of seeing ghosts... how about some other intuitive sense?"

We found a piece of crystal with a rather playful deva in it and asked him to see if there was anything in the stone. Although he took quite awhile, he was actually able in the end to give an accurate description of the crystal's deva!

Since my eloquent friend was still a little unconvinced, we brought him to a place that sold pre-made magic/ritual stuff. We got him to hold each magic/ritual item and to tell us what kinds of energies and symbols were infused in each. Surprisingly, he got them all correct. We know cos we checked with the owner!

Finally we got him to do a remote viewing on a friend in a distant place and he was again SPOT ON in terms of description and what the guy was doing!

Probably most of ya might find this rather mundane, but honestly, just 3 hours before, he was a guy who couldnt see auras, energies, symbols, devas or ANYTHING, much less do a successful remote viewing. :P

Now I am REALLY starting to wonder WHAT ON EARTH the circle cast on him. Cos it wasnt the nasty "Yes, you'll see all spirits from here to eternity" kind of thing. It was more like giving him brains and insight and pehaps enhancing his clairvoyant ability...... Brains... mannnnnnn.....can any spell give a person something like that?

Djiril
December 30th, 2004, 02:34 PM
Does he really seem to have developed brains? :huh:

Tabbykitty
December 30th, 2004, 10:07 PM
Does he really seem to have developed brains? :huh:

well I dont think it was brains per se.... but maybe hightened sense of intuition and perception :alol: It seems his gift needed to be triggered off by someone. :whistle:


Apparently some people had previously tried to teach him how to do readings and sense energies and so forth. But although they kept trying, he still saw nothing and couldn't even feel the energy flow through his body or through other living things at all...:P

I think they eventually got him to try out every psychic ability they could think of, precognition/retrocognition, psychometry, remote viewing, seeing spirits, reading sealed envelopes, chairvoyance/claudience, telepathy.... you name it.... to find his gift. Finally, one night, while they were talking to him again... for the umpteenth time about his desire to "see stuff", one of the psychics spotted a..... you wont believe this..... a ghost laughing at him. I think unfortunately he found out about what the guy saw and i guess that fueled his desire even more..... also it made him horriby sulky.

Tabbykitty
January 3rd, 2005, 12:23 PM
Hi All,

its been some days since I answered this thread, but I thought I might post a update on my discoveries. I finally had a chance to talk to Pete (the irritated magus in this thread) about the ritual done on this young man.

It wasnt really easy to get Pete to talk to me about the ritual, but when he finally did he said that they had simply put this young man on a journey. The end result would hopefully be greater wisdom and self understanding for this young man. That was their real gift to him. For his 3rd eye, they merely enhanced whatever natural ability he already had.... there was no real need to open it since it was already open.

Strangely enough, that same brash young man had also visited Pete for a talk. Given the circumstances, I thought that he would try to avoid Pete altogether. He asked about the symbols and gifts which Pete and the circle had given him and Pete told him that the thing they had given him to improve his psychic abilities was "merely a toy" and that in time the young man would himself take it off because he didnt need it any more. I guess, what he meant was probably that the young fella wont need a mental crutch any more when he is far enough progressed along his journey to self understanding.

Well, the brash young fellow is now noticeably less sulky. When I asked him recently if he wanted to learn Pete's skills and spells..... he said: "That thing? Are you mad?!!!!!" OKay....... i guess he also gained a little bit of wisdom and common sense as well. :)

So far so good. I kinda hope it stays that way. :)

spirit wind
January 3rd, 2005, 11:05 PM
I'm glad it worked out for the best. :smile: