I have a ? for all of yall

[darkone_withwords]

Do you think that the prophies are comein true right now?
I think that they are and that we will see the world end in like 40 years.

[Mab]

which prophecies?

[lil_suzie]

I donno what prophesies you mean.

[Flaire-FireStar]

No.

[Druchii]

Do you think that the prophies are comein true right now?
I think that they are and that we will see the world end in like 40 years.

I refuse to die when I am 70. Prophecies are just that, nothing more than conjecture and no real fact. I wouldn't worry about it. :)

[kissesree]

????????

[Xander67]

I would think it depends on which Prophesies you are referring to,
alot of Nostradamous's have and are being fullfilled, as are alot in the book of revelation,

im sure other cultures have prophecies that are comming true also.......

[Dashifen]

I once read a prophecy that the sun will rise tomorrow. I read it yesterday and it came true!!!! I'm so gonna get hit with the smiting stick for that one:

:fpoke:

Anyway, it depends on the prophecy and on the interpretation of that prophecy. Some, like the Book of Revelations, have been studied and altered and translated so many times that it's hard to know exactly what they're saying and if what they're saying in this language is what they meant in their original language.

Plus, then you have the question as to whether or not you believe in prophecy. I don't believe that the future can really be seen or understood, hence I don't really think that the future can be foretold in prophecy. 'Course, I'm also a Tarot reader, so go figure.......

~D~

[Windsmith]

Do you think that the prophies are comein true right now?
I think that they are and that we will see the world end in like 40 years.
Depends on what you mean by the world ending. Do I expect Armageddon/Ragnarok-like swords of fire & chewed-up souls in the next 40 years? Not a chance. Do I think it's entirely possible that the rate of environmental degradation being perpetrated by humankind could make the planet uninhabitable in the next 40 years? Oh, you bet your sweet bippy.

Of course, there's also this, which is one of my favorite quotes ever (wish I could remember where it came from!): "Don't be afraid that the world will end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia."

-W

[Aleigh]

Nope.

[Luminessence]

People have thought that the end of the world was imminent for hundreds - thousands, in fact - of years. The first Christians thought that the world would end in their lifetime. It may seem now like things are about to go over that edge, but it's seemed that way many times before, and it hasn't happened yet.

Besides, I don't want the world to end yet. So of course I'm reluctant to believe that it will :)

[Old Witch]

Nope

[equinox2]

If you are talking about the political rhetoric preserved in the Bible, then please consider the historical context.

The most important thing to remember is that the books we call the Bible were written in a different historical context (the world of the 1st or 2nd centuries), and make sense only in that context. When you take a word, sentence or book out of it’s historical context, you change what it means – so of course they don’t make sense today. That’s why Christians disagree on nearly every point about the end times (eschatology). The Catholics believe one thing, the Presbyterians another, etc, etc. In fact, most large groups just throw up their hands, and so different smaller groups in each denomination have different ideas even about what the Bible predicts. There are ideas as diverse as pre-trip, post-trib, amillenialism, millennialism, preterism, and on, and on and on. If you want to see real live Christians discussing all these, just go to www.rr-bb.com.

All the biblical predictions make a lot more sense if you first separate the different books, and then put each in its correct historical context.

Take the book of revelation, for example. It was written during the persecution of Domatian, and contains tons of clear political references to world of that day. For instance, 666 is the number you get when you add up the letters of the Roman emperor Nero’s name (in the ancient world, letters were used for numbers, a=1, b=2, etc. In fact, “Nero” can be spelled two ways, and some ancient copies of Rev have 616 as the number of the beast – based on the other spelling. Books like revelation were common – just as political cartoons are today.

The book of revelation is the Apocalypse of John. If you’d like to learn about the book of revelation or about any of those early Christian writings, here is a good site: http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/revelation.html. We also have tons of other books like it – the Apocalypse of Moses, the Apocalypse of Adam (claiming to be the "Adam" of "Adam & Eve"), the Apocalypse of Peter, etc, etc….. Thinking that the Apocalypse of John has any relevance today is simply missing the point of the book.

However, Christians have always thought that it was relevant for today, whether today was 95 CE, or 250 CE, or 632 CE, or 1156 CE, or 2004 CE. This is in spite of the fact that it appears that Jesus and the early church expected the end immediately.

Don’t forget that Jesus himself is supposed (according to Mark) to have said it would be within a few decades of when Jesus was around: Mk 13:30
Quote:

I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.


(Apologists will argue that Jesus means “race”, but that doesn’t agree with either the term used nor with Jesus’ clearly apocalyptic teachings.)

And a few decades after Jesus, Paul believed wrote that he would be alive when Jesus returned:

2Thes 4:
Quote:

According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.


And other Christians have been predicting the return of Jesus continually since then.

Writings we have show that in just about every generation for the past 1900 years, some Christians were predicting the end to come before they had died.

The Christian Jaochim of Fiore predicted it in the 12th century, and thousands believed him. The “great disappointment” of 1843 had tens of thousands of Christian followers. Hal Lindsay wrote the Christian book “the late great planet earth” in the 70’s and tens of thousands believed him. Thousands also believed the Christian who wrote the booklet titled “88 reasons the world will end in 1988” (all based on the bible).

Oh yeah, and this morning I drove by a Christian church that had written "Now we are one year closer........" on it's message sign out front.


The only safe prediction to make is that there will be Christians expecting the return of Jesus as long as there are Christians, and that they will always disagree about what “the end” will be. One thing that all of these prophecies of the impending end of the earth have had in common is that they have all been just plain wrong.


Whether you expect the end soon or not, I hope you live each day for itself, focusing on this life, not on some hypothetical event.

Have a fun day!

[Mab]

I would think it depends on which Prophesies you are referring to,
alot of Nostradamous's have and are being fullfilled, as are alot in the book of revelation,

im sure other cultures have prophecies that are comming true also.......
ah, but I just saw a documentary-type thingie on TV about Nostradamus, and it appears his "prophecies" are simply prediction of historical & mathematical pattern that has been apparent in human history since mankind started relating their history.

[WynterWynd]

umm........nope.

[ravenmyst]

wow, equinox2, love the research

[dr_zeus440]

"Don't be afraid that the world will end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia".

oh god..OH GOD NO!! WHAT ABOUT US AUSTRALIANS!! WE'RE ALL GUNNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND FIRST, TOO!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!

p.s. the sun just came up, it is officially "tomorrow" in australia. we'll keep you posted (our people will call your people).

[6th Angel]

I dunno on the prophecys part. But my SO always anticipates anything that will happen. He´s said things about the war in Iraq, and a few days later it happened, spectacular things. So he´s made a believer out of me on anything he predicts. And for some reason he keeps saying that we will be seeing a drastic reduction in the world population soon and sometimes he says it will be the end of the world soon..... So.......maybe Yes in answer to your question.

P.S. He´s no religious fanatic or freak, he´s actually got an extremely high IQ. So I tend to belive or at least pay attention to what he says.

[Sasha318]

Do I think it's entirely possible that the rate of environmental degradation being perpetrated by humankind could make the planet uninhabitable in the next 40 years? Oh, you bet your sweet bippy.

ITA. That pretty much does it for me on the prophecies.

Although I just read The Belgariad. That prophecy turned out pretty well.

[MoonDragn]

I wonder, if the world will end at a certain time, would it take into effect daylight savings?

[dr_zeus440]

depends on what was causing the end of the world. if it was due to a super duper bomb attached to a clock that had been set with daylight savings in mind, then maybe. if it was due to giant, walking, orange squids, than maybe not. but even then, if the squids had been woken up by someones alarm clock, and the alarm clock wasnt set to daylight savings, and the squids were trying to have a sleep in because they had been out at a rave the night before...then maybe. only one way to find out.

[Illuminatus]

Prophecies never come true, except for the occational fluke, and those nasty self-fulfilling ones.

One example is the children of israel reclaiming the land of zion. That only happened because a lot of people heard of the prophecy, and decided that it would be awesome if they went and did what the prophecy said so that the other prophecies later on in the chapter come true. And we know what a great idea that was.

Really, if a prophecy does actually come true it's either an accident or self-fulfilling (by deliberate act of man). Fate's got nothing to do with it, nor do the origins of the prophecy.

[Boogins]

Not a chance. Not on your life, or mine. All you're doing is scaring yourself, and then hiding away from the real world in a corner. In truth, yes, environmental damage is a great danger--but even that can be reversed if the world truly puts effort into it. After all, one used to be able to walk across the Thames River in England; now you can eat the fish out of it safely, and drown in it with ease.

Fire from above? The wrath of the gods? Just ridiculous.

[Xentor]

The world chances. It is called nature. Humanity might even get extinct, due to our meddling with nature. But history also showed us that we can adapt to changing surroundings, like most other animals can.

There has been no wrath from gods for the past 2000 years, so what makes the prophets think we are so important that it will happen now? The universe is larger than our puny world.

[equinox2]

It strikes me that the fact that some people in every generation think they are living near the end of the world is awfully egocentric, even if one does swallow the idea of an end of the world.

I mean, people have been on this earth for thousands of years. So the odds of the end of the world being within my lifetime = (one lifetime)/(human history). Plugging numbers in gives:

Odds = 70 years/2,000,000 years = 0.0035% (and that’s a “Nope” to me.)

Even if I were a Creationist, the odds are low:

Creationist Odds=70 years/6,000 years = 1%. (not something I’d bet on.)

I think some people just need to understand the Copernican principle – the universe doesn’t revolve around you. You (and your times) aren’t the most important. Now get over it and live your life.

(that is, of course, the general “you”, not you in particular!) :tongueout

Enjoy this day-

[Silverwolfthorn]

we'll all gonna die! ahhhh! i have so much to do!

[Olwenmsmind]

I dont believe the world is going to 'come to an end' ever in hisotry. Though the world may change life will always be around

[BrisaDelMar]

Personally.. I don't choose to live my life with the thought of the END OF THE WORLD at my heels. I have so much to accomplish; so much life to live. I think people must enjoy the fear and drama of this sort of thinking, because as others have said, it comes up in every generation. Me, I prefer to live my life to the fullest in the "right now" and not in the "what will come".

[Tigereyes99]

Nope! well it better not do!

[SacredWithin]

Do you think that the prophies are comein true right now?
I think that they are and that we will see the world end in like 40 years.

The only end I see is the current end of our ways of thinking and society. The end of planet Earth? I don't think so, although if our ways of thinking don't end soon, then yes, an end to planet Earth. It all depends on what we want to focus our energy on.

[Romani Vixen]

My dad lives in the mountains of N.E. Washington. He's been seeing geese flying north... odd...

I don't think that the world will end, I just think that it will change to the point that we don't recognize it anymore.

[PoisonIvy]

All I know is that the world has been "ending" for a long F-ing time. As far as Revelations goes...all of that stuff has been happening! But it also says that not even the angels in Heaven know when the world is coming to an end. Some dude predicted that the world would end in 1984 and guess what? If I'm already dead then so are all of you! So I say...stop guessing and LIVE! You'll just worry yourself to death and get all depressed!