Romanian, 67, pregnant with twins

[Laisrean]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4133693.stm

:holycow:

[HorseCrow]

I consider myself a tolerant midwife.... but that is too far out.

[soilsigh aingeal]

thats extreme

[HolographicJoe]

What a selfish woman. What can she possibly offer those children? My parents were in theier mid thirties when they had me, and I would say it was a bit late. One pleasure of having young parents is that through out not only your childhood, but also your adolescence, they are active and fit, able to take you hiking and camping, biking, swimming, etc. What is this withered sack of prune juice and bones going to give them? An inheritance?

[Earthy]

Yea,i read it in the paper a few days ago-and i think it's wrong.

[novena]

What a selfish woman. What can she possibly offer those children? My parents were in theier mid thirties when they had me, and I would say it was a bit late. One pleasure of having young parents is that through out not only your childhood, but also your adolescence, they are active and fit, able to take you hiking and camping, biking, swimming, etc. What is this withered sack of prune juice and bones going to give them? An inheritance?

But a big disadvantage of being reared by young parents is their emotional immaturity and lack of life experience. My parents were 22 and 25 when I was born, and we all agree that the three of us "grew up together." It's not so fun being a kid and having to be the adult in the house! ;)

I've not read the article in question, but I am concerned about people in their late 60s becoming parents -- if there is no other support system in place for the child. Of course, I'm also a fan of the multi-generational household (a la "it takes a village to raise a child"). Adults of all ages have a great deal to offer children.

[Shanti]

What a selfish woman. What can she possibly offer those children? My parents were in theier mid thirties when they had me, and I would say it was a bit late. One pleasure of having young parents is that through out not only your childhood, but also your adolescence, they are active and fit, able to take you hiking and camping, biking, swimming, etc. What is this withered sack of prune juice and bones going to give them? An inheritance? Gee thanks for the opinion of middle aged parents!!!
Now I kinda disagree with 60 something getting PG by using fertilazation drugs. I wouldnt opt for it being a great choice. But not that its a 'bad' choice.
But many middle aged women naturally can bare children and make fine parents. And having a kid/kids at middle age is hardly an unfit time. Parents can be in bad physical shape at any age. What about the disabled? Are they any less good parents with nothing to offer?

If a 60 something got pg naturally, I would say her body wasnt ready to quit motherhood, but with drugs, its forced and I dont feel the best choice. Again not nessesarily wrong.

And there are many grand parents that do a wonderful job raising grand children due to many reason like death of the parents.

If running and playing is all that makes a good parent, then there are a lot of lousy parents out there!!!

And for info...I am disabled and I had my last 2 kids at 38 and 40!!!!!! And one thing my family has...all 5 kids and me and my SO.....is 'LOVE'!!!!!!! :)

And guess what, even disabled, middle aged parents can go camping and do lots of stuff!!! We do a lot of outdoor stuff all the time. In fact with me being disabled, we make a hole day out of going to the woods and stuff cause it takes me more time to do simple things. And the kids....they love it all. They get to run and climb in the woods and we all go swimming and boating, etc.

And a friend I knew a few yrs back was 80 and went biking and backpacking!!!!

People can be vital and active at any age!!!!!

[novena]

People can be vital and active at any age!!!!!

Yep! I'm looking forward to getting better and growing stronger as I get older.

:cheers:

[Raven Reed]

I think that given our modern medical technology and life span, having children in middle age is not unreasonable. But 67 isn't middle age. It is entirely possible that this woman could die at any time and leave these children motherless. The likelihood that she will survive to raise the children to adulthood is pretty iffy.

Now, of course, any of us can die at any time, but why stack the deck?

And how is someone seventy going to cope with twin toddlers? I shudder to think of it. I couldn't do it now and I am 35...

[Boogins]

It just seems unnatural--both in terms of the fertility drugs used, and situationally. I can't give this one a thumbs-up.

[redlady]

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[Black RiverWolf]

i don't agree with middle aged parents at all. in fact i belive that they are more stable then younger parents. most by that age are setup in life and ar ready to bring a child into the world. so I back Shanti on her $.02 but i think that this woman giving birth at her age is wrong it was forced by drugs and science not nature. there is a reason why nature turns off that part of our bodies after a while. why push it to the limits

[MorningDove030202]

I don't know why they didn't just adopt when they were younger. I'm 27 and I have an almost 3 year old and it's very hard on me! Plus who are you going to haing out with? With her friends and their grand kids....LOL

Dove

[ravenmyst]

ugh the 70 yr old with twin toddlers point is perfect, at that age it is best to enjoy your croning and get on with it. I had mine at 21 and 23 so I can relate with growing up with the kids and my mother is still quite childish and not necessarily in a good way, although I have seen improvement in the last few years, not sure which is better but I know that having them at that advanced of an age is ridiculous, there are plenty that could use adopting

[Faerwolf]

Wow

[Calen]

That's...quite something.
I don't disagree with the use of fertility drugs, and I don't disagree with people having children in their 30+ years, but a senior citizen taking fertility drugs and getting herself pregnant with twins is a bit much, in my opinion. I think it's great if younger people want to use fertility treatments to conceive if they are having trouble (although I would probably adopt, if it were me) and I think it's fine if people are blessed with an extended period in which they can have children, but for an older woman to have twins when she is well past the age that even a perfectly fertile woman would normally be having babies doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Ah well..I wish that lady and her babies the best of luck. :\

[Yasmine Galenorn]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4133693.stm

:holycow:

That actually ticks me off totally. I think it's just wrong...why the hell doesn't she adopt if she wants to parent? I'm almost 44, at this point, even if I wanted to have kids, I'd probably forget about trying for it the natural way because of birth defects and the strain on my body...(plus, my husband and I are very pro-adoption). I like to think of myself as a tolerant person but I think she's short-changing the children. What the hell are they going to do with a mother who's closing in on 70?

Yasmine :colorful:

[Yasmine Galenorn]

And for info...I am disabled and I had my last 2 kids at 38 and 40!!!!!! And one thing my family has...all 5 kids and me and my SO.....is 'LOVE'!!!!!!! :)


But Shanti, there's a big difference between having a child at 40 and having one when you're almost 70...yes, women in their early 40's can have perfectly healthy babies and make great moms, but already, the chance of birth defects skyrockets by 45...

Yasmine :colorful:

[Shanti]

But Shanti, there's a big difference between having a child at 40 and having one when you're almost 70...yes, women in their early 40's can have perfectly healthy babies and make great moms, but already, the chance of birth defects skyrockets by 45...

Yasmine :colorful: My post was in reply to anothers post concerning middled aged parents. And in my post I acknowledged that the 60 something was not what I would consider a great choice for timing of childbearing.
So I was just, 1, pointing out some good points in regards to middle aged parents, since the poster I was responding to said that mid thirties was a bit to late due to lack of physical fitness, and 2, I never agreed that 60 something is a bright choice. I cant say this woman is wrong, I dont know her family, circumstances and what not but I wouldnt consider this to be a logical choice.

[SilverMaiden]

All I can say is, "Just thinking about raising twins makes me friggin' tired." I'm betting she has family that will help and probably a nanny.

I had my twin nephews over for their holiday vactions. Non-stop talking and dual conversations going simultaneously. I was a parrot for the week, "I realize I have two ears, but I can only follow ONE conversation. Quit talking at the same time, you're driving me nuts!" :lol: I hope the woman is prepared.

[LightDancer]

Nevermind raising twins, will she even survive labor and delivery!

Jamie

[PoisonIvy]

I understand wanting to have a child and not being able to but why did she wait so freakin' long #1? #2 Why would you do that to a child (or children in this case)? I think about being 50 or so when my child graduates,if I got pregnant here pretty soon. I wonder if she thinks about who will take care of the twins when her and her husband die. She,IMHO, is way to old to be having children! I think mother nature cuts us off at a certain point to save the children heartache.And how will she be able to keep up with 2 little ones at her age?

[RubyRose]

While I personally believe 60 and up may be pushing it, I don't see that there is anything wrong with women having babies in their early to mid 40s. My mother was 34 years old when she had me, and her mother was 37 years old, and my mother was the youngest of 5 children.

As long as you are able to look after a child, I don't really think age should be a factor.

[BrisaDelMar]

Well.. I have some input here as to why she might have waited so long. ... She is in Romania, which is not really the medical captial of the world. And the technology might not have been available to her much sooner. OK..that said.. PLEASE don't think I agree with what she did. I don't!. I would love to ask her .. "In the 50 years you were married, you never considered adoption???" I know there are a ton of children in Romania who need homes, because people in America adopt from Romania. I would think the Romanian government would much rather have a Romanian family adopt a Romanian.
The thing I'm wondering is, if her husband has anything to do with this... Meaning, I wonder if he is the type who was very against adoption. You know the type..."I don't want to raise some one else's kid".. way of thinking. Who knows, maybe he has been a jerk to her all these years because she couldn't have a child.
Ok, maybe that is not how it happened, I don't know. But she is not the ONLY one who will raise these babies. The HUSBAND will be there too. I wonder what he thinks?

[HorseCrow]

If running and playing is all that makes a good parent, then there are a lot of lousy parents out there!!!

And guess what, even disabled, middle aged parents can go camping and do lots of stuff!!! We do a lot of outdoor stuff all the time. In fact with me being disabled, we make a hole day out of going to the woods and stuff cause it takes me more time to do simple things. And the kids....they love it all. They get to run and climb in the woods and we all go swimming and boating, etc.



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[HolographicJoe]

But a big disadvantage of being reared by young parents is their emotional immaturity and lack of life experience. My parents were 22 and 25 when I was born, and we all agree that the three of us "grew up together." It's not so fun being a kid and having to be the adult in the house! ;)

True, but I despite, my parents age, was ofen the adult in my house. Immaturity is not confined to the young.

[HolographicJoe]

Having kinds in your forties is fine. It's being 15, with a 60 year old mom that sucks.

It's not about what you can handle at the time you have the squealers, it's what you'll be up to in 10, 15, 20 years. This woman will be dead. The father/son picnic is a lot less fun when Da's arthritis is acting up and the other kids tumble along with their da's in the 3 legged race. Hiking with mom is a lot less fun when "hiking" is a walk along a paved path by the beach because her back won't permit an incline. Argue all you like, but those are some of the joys of having older parents.

[charmedkisses1]

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[Lilith79]

I, too, think it's selfish. Not to mention, the possibility that the children could be born with severe genetic problems if the eggs were hers.
Just because you *can* do something, doesn't mean you *should*. I wonder about the credibility of her dr that allowed this to happen.

[SilverMaiden]

Having kinds in your forties is fine. It's being 15, with a 60 year old mom that sucks.

It's not about what you can handle at the time you have the squealers, it's what you'll be up to in 10, 15, 20 years. This woman will be dead. The father/son picnic is a lot less fun when Da's arthritis is acting up and the other kids tumble along with their da's in the 3 legged race. Hiking with mom is a lot less fun when "hiking" is a walk along a paved path by the beach because her back won't permit an incline. Argue all you like, but those are some of the joys of having older parents.

I think a lot depends on the kids. You either love your parents for who they are, while you have them or you constantly wish they were someone else. Although my step-father has been burdened with arthitis at a young age and knees that constantly fell out of place. It was just a fact of life, that there was some things he couldn't do. It didn't make him less of parent.