Can Anyone Identify This Spell?

[Tabbykitty]

Something really freaky happened today. We had a special meditation event to help the tsunami victims and Pete the magus (from my previous post) was there. After the event, we had a little talk about magick and spells and the topic of divination and seeing a person's true inner/authentic self popped up.

Everyone gave their two cents about clairvoyance, asking guides, tarot, dowsing and other methods. Finally, when it came to Pete, he held out his two hands and muttered something out of his breath. With his two hands, he seemed to shape something out of energy (that is for those who can see energies) For those who cant, they felt a buzzing when they touched the space in between his hands. Something smooth like a mirror had formed.

He then asked us to name the person whose true self we wanted to see and just look into the mirror. Well, someone named a person who was a truly nasty psychic vampire that was known to all of us. Immeditately when that person's picture appeared in the "mirror" several of the clairvoyants recoiled at the picture. It looked like a demon of sorts, a medusa with tentacles which she used to suck out energy from people. She was in this hot, hellish, underworld place. Oddly enough, everyone got the exact same image! There wasnt even a difference in interpretation/psychic vision, as is so often the case, it was like they were seeing something right there. I got the image too.... scary thing. :hairred: :eek:

Then Pete went around and showed everyone his or her true self. Luckily no one recoiled in horror. Oddly enough it even showed up the animal/elf/dragon forms of "otherkin" if you believe in that sort of thing. (no offense to otherkin browsing this forum)

Later, when Pete was preoccupied in answering some questions, one of my clairvoyant friends pulled me aside and asked if I had seen some strange sanskrit/tibetan type symbols flying around Pete's hands. Honestly, I was sooooo amazed to be able to feel the mirror I hadnt really used my mind's eye vision to percieve them.

Has anyone EVER come across a spell like this before? If so.... What on earth is it? Can objects made out of magick ever be made to provide a tactile sensation? Dont people have to use candles, chalices, daggers and other ritual items or even a magic circle to make such things happen? If anyone has a similar experience please let me know about it :)

[Rick]

Can't speak for that spell, but I do quite well with singing a rune's name (galdr, rune magic, is based on sound, after all). Works just fine.

[Tabbykitty]

Hi Rick,

so you sing out the runes? Cool! :D
What kinda spells d ya have in runesinging? How does it work? WOuld be nice to hear ya give a description of ur experience.

[KEishin]

Sure you can make magickal energy have physical sensations. Now you can't make it become somehting real permanently (to my knowledge) but that's what magick is - causing change.

I've done the energy ball game many a time, and while I'm not a visual psychic, I can very clearly tell you where and when that sucker is by the way the room feels. The ability to do so depends on one's stregnth of will and magickal knowhow.

"Dont people have to use candles, chalices, daggers and other ritual items or even a magic circle to make such things happen?"

Not always. Some schools of magick (without giving too much away) have what they call "astral tools" that function exactly the same as their physical counterparts in spellwork. Your firend might have used that to help him, or not. And if he did cast circle, etc, that doesn't have to be blindlingly obvious to others. I've cast circles before literally at the speed of thought and worked with real, live magick without such safeguards. (I recommend against the latter. In my case it was an emergency!)

[Mowri]

I've work with the shaping of energy, and have on occasion been able to shape the energy in a way that was tangible and passable to others (the "ball game" that was mentioned earlier), but as for making an object such as a mirror apear out of energy, ...no...never have I even heard of it until now. Its interesting to say the least. :)
And no, circles, athame, and the like are not always needed to create magick.
I have never in my life cast a circle to do any sort of magic (unless asked to call quarters at a freind's ritual)...and it seems to work just fine *wink*
Preference I suppose.

[Tabbykitty]

I've done the energy ball game many a time, and while I'm not a visual psychic, I can very clearly tell you where and when that sucker is by the way the room feels. The ability to do so depends on one's stregnth of will and magickal knowhow.

soooooo how d ya do that energy ball game I hear people talk about all the time? Currently only my left hand buzzes with energy... the right hand seems a little dead.... cant hardly feel energy from there.




Not always. Some schools of magick (without giving too much away) have what they call "astral tools" that function exactly the same as their physical counterparts in spellwork. Your firend might have used that to help him, or not. And if he did cast circle, etc, that doesn't have to be blindlingly obvious to others. I've cast circles before literally at the speed of thought and worked with real, live magick without such safeguards. (I recommend against the latter. In my case it was an emergency!)

really? there are astral tools? :foh: what school of magick has that sorta thing? er.... I know the question here seems moot since i sense that it is probably a guarded secret, but er... let me make a guess.... is it some hermetic order?

[Tabbykitty]

And no, circles, athame, and the like are not always needed to create magick.
I have never in my life cast a circle to do any sort of magic (unless asked to call quarters at a freind's ritual)...and it seems to work just fine *wink*
Preference I suppose.

hmmmmmmmmmm...... so, what is the basic bare minimum that one needs before one can cast a spell? Just pure energy and will or must there at least be an item for focus?

[KEishin]

soooooo how d ya do that energy ball game I hear people talk about all the time? Currently only my left hand buzzes with energy... the right hand seems a little dead.... cant hardly feel energy from there.If you have trouble feeling energy with both hands, rub them together briskly for 10 seconds, then stop and see if you can feel the energy in both. It may feel like heat, cold, pressure of prickles, and it can be different in each hand. Contrary to popular belief, you are not energetically right or left handed.

When you've got the energy sensors going, here's the trick: You place your two hands about six inches or so apart (or whatever distance you can do and still feel the energy). Imagine a ball of energy between them. It should feel like it does when you rub your hand together. Now, try to enlarge or shrink that ball without losing it. If you've got friends there who are sensitive, you can try to pass it without dropping the ball. Oodles of fun :tongueout


really? there are astral tools? :foh: what school of magick has that sorta thing? er.... I know the question here seems moot since i sense that it is probably a guarded secret, but er... let me make a guess.... is it some hermetic order?You guessed it. OTO, Golden Dawn, etc have all tried at one time or another.

[Tabbykitty]

friends there who are sensitive, you can try to pass it without dropping the ball. Oodles of fun :tongueout

man... I gotta try this with some of the younger members in my local psychic group....



You guessed it. OTO, Golden Dawn, etc have all tried at one time or another.

AH HA! I knew it! We were all saying that Pete was probably a closet hermetic, since he doesnt seem like a wiccan, shaman or any of the pagans that we know.

Btw... did the magickal orders ever have any success working with astral tools? Cos it seems we are all still using physical ritual items.

[Ben Gruagach]

Btw... did the magickal orders ever have any success working with astral tools? Cos it seems we are all still using physical ritual items.

It could be argued that physical tools only work magickally if they have energized astral bodies or counterparts. Without that activated astral component a knife is just a knife.

Most magickal systems have processes for purifying and consecrating ritual tools which activates and charges up the astral forms of the tools. I'm sure some tools can have the astral part already activated (i.e. if they were made with love and intention by someone who isn't necessarily a practicing witch or magician, or were used in some highly-charged symbolic way.) A negative example of an object that gets charged unintentionally would be a knife that is used in a murder -- you'd have to do some pretty big cleansing of it if you ever wanted to use it for positive magick after something nasty like that.

Some people who work with magick are really good at visualization and astral work and can do rituals on the astral without the need for physical tools or even physical movement. In my experience though it's more common for people to find the physical tools and physical motions of a ritual are easier to work with than just astral work. But it is something you can work towards!

Willow Polson's book "The Veil's Edge" is good for anyone who is interested in exploring energy and astral work especially if they come from a Wiccan (or Wiccan-style) magickal background. If you're more into ceremonial magick then try looking for information on astral working, pathworking, guided meditations, visualizations, etc. And there is a lot of stuff out there on energy work from a variety of cultural backgrounds: look for info on Reiki, Qigong (also sometimes spelled Chi Gong or Chi Kung or a variation of that), chakras, kundalini energy, Odic energy, among others.

Christopher Penczak's book "The Inner Temple of Witchcraft" covers a lot of this stuff too with exercises to help develop the ability to work with magickal energies.

[Verthandi]

When you've got the energy sensors going, here's the trick: You place your two hands about six inches or so apart (or whatever distance you can do and still feel the energy). Imagine a ball of energy between them. It should feel like it does when you rub your hand together. Now, try to enlarge or shrink that ball without losing it. If you've got friends there who are sensitive, you can try to pass it without dropping the ball. Oodles of fun :tongueout
Yeah, it's fun, but it's always a good idea to get to know the feel of someone's energy before this. I have rather subtle and gentle energy and I was practicing/playing once with a friend that has energy like a battering ram. He nearly knocked me on my metaphysical ass! :lol:

[Tabbykitty]

Willow Polson's book "The Veil's Edge" is good for anyone who is interested in exploring energy and astral work especially if they come from a Wiccan (or Wiccan-style) magickal background. If you're more into ceremonial magick then try looking for information on astral working, pathworking, guided meditations, visualizations, etc. And there is a lot of stuff out there on energy work from a variety of cultural backgrounds: look for info on Reiki, Qigong (also sometimes spelled Chi Gong or Chi Kung or a variation of that), chakras, kundalini energy, Odic energy, among others.

Christopher Penczak's book "The Inner Temple of Witchcraft" covers a lot of this stuff too with exercises to help develop the ability to work with magickal energies.

hey Ben, thanks for the info. Its really helpful :D I'll try looking into it to find the books that you have cited.

[Rick]

Hi Rick,

so you sing out the runes? Cool!
What kinda spells d ya have in runesinging? How does it work? Would be nice to hear ya give a description of ur experience
The basis of rune magic is sound. When doing any magical rune working, the runester should “sing” (or chant or speak) the name of each rune used (stressing it’s phonetic value), or it’s galdr sounds (magical sounds) , i.e.: if you used the rune Fehu you would sing/chant/speak fffffffffffffffffaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay-hoooooooooooooo, or galdr sounds- fah, feh, fee, foe, foo… This method would be used in any rune working, no matter what the purpose.

That’s about as well as I can explain it without enrolling you in Runes 101 :hehehehe:

[leaf-shadow]

i think i can tell u the chinese name of such powers: su-ming-tong. but i dont think that means anything to you.

well, i know this thing... it's like clairvoyance, u see it with your third eye. it's displayed on a "screen" in front of third eye charka. when u posses this ability, you can use the "screen" to reflect things that are "recorded" in the passage of time. i was thinking, ur friend might have this su-ming-tong thing, and may be he's some how got the ability to show you what's on his "screen".... i dont know, just guesses. :P