Did Vikings Discover the America's?

[Danustouch]

Just wondering if any of you have heard the theories that Vikings actually discovered the America's. If so...what evidence have you read..and what are your conclusions?

http://members.aol.com/bakken1/viking/vikingnw.htm

[Cacaoatl]

The "Vikings" didn't discover America but they did briefly settle here. The evidence is the Leif Ericson Saga and the ruins of "Viking" style houses found on the east coast of Canada. The "Vikings" were eventually driven off by the native peoples whom they called the Skraelings.

[mucgwyrt]

I think it's fair to say the Native Americans "discovered" the americas first ;)

[Mjollnir]

The "Vikings" didn't discover America but they did briefly settle here. The evidence is the Leif Ericson Saga and the ruins of "Viking" style houses found on the east coast of Canada. The "Vikings" were eventually driven off by the native peoples whom they called the Skraelings.


It was at L'Anse Aux Meadow in Newfoundland and you cannot "settle" somewhere new unless you first "discover" it, and not to mention the fact that they reportedly sailed up and down the coast farther from where they wound up settling. It is also been suggested that the natives were not the only reason for the settlement being abandoned, and since it was in use for a few years I think you can say the Vikings were the europeans that settled and discovered N.A. first.

[omar]

The Chinese now claim they came to the west coast of America in 1421 AD. ?

[Zibblsnrt]

The Chinese now claim they came to the west coast of America in 1421 AD. ?

"The Chinese" claim no such thing, but there's been a book published which makes the argument.

Most of the historians I've known and worked with haven't exactly considered it a glowing triumph of scholarship, to say the least.

[Rick]

The Chinese now claim they came to the west coast of America in 1421 AD. ?
And even if it's true, it's still about 450-500 years after the Ericsons.

[omar]

Yes I read about the Vikings and there settlement in Vineland I think it was the Nat. Geographic a few years ago. Very interesting.

[celticstock]

I cannot remember the name of the tribe at this moment. I will try to research it again. However, there was a group of Druids who fled if I recall correctly around 800Bc. They left from Wales.

Later when the first American colonists reached (I think the Dakotas) they found a tribe of Indians, many of whom had blue eyes. None of the Indian interpreters could communicate with them. Oddly some of the Welsh immigrees found that they could communicate. It was an ancient form of the current 1800's Welsh. They also had small inscribed standing stones with whirls etc. They story that came of that was that the druids had landed on the east coast and followed rivers inland until they found a tribe that agreed with each other and they intermarried. Sadly, they were decimated by white diseases and no longer exist. I'll try to look up the details for you.

Separate but related is also this... http://www.stonehengeusa.com/ (http://www.stonehengeusa.com/)

So aside from the obvious, that Native Americans or (the people) were first, I'm going with a possible seconmd being the druids.







Just wondering if any of you have heard the theories that Vikings actually discovered the America's. If so...what evidence have you read..and what are your conclusions?

http://members.aol.com/bakken1/viking/vikingnw.htm

[celticstock]

Looked it up. If it's the same thing I learned about years ago in college, they are now saying no. However the henge is actually in NH, so who knows...

This is what I find now...

"There really was a Welsh explorer named Prince Madoc (or Madog) who claimed to have navigated to the New World in the 12th century, though. If his story was true, he sailed along the east coast of North America somewhere, probably in present-day New Brunswick. (Some Mi'kmaq Indians think Prince Madoc may correspond to a historical figure in their oral histories, which would corroborate this account somewhat.) This obviously has nothing to do with the Mandans, who live in North Dakota (1500 miles from the east coast, for those not familiar with North American geography.)

The assertion that the Mandan language has anything to do with Welsh is patently false; here's a good website by a Welsh speaker explaining why Mandan is not Welsh. "
http://www.native-languages.org/iaq10.htm (http://www.native-languages.org/iaq10.htm)

[tynanpagan]

It is clearly true that the "indians" got here first. On the subject of who got here first from Europe, the data is less clear. A friend of cotton mather found somethin that looked like some sort of writing and told his friend Cotton Mather. Cotton, who had contacts in the Brittish Royal Society (the premier scientific body of the time) did a tracing of the strange engravings and sent it to his friends in the Royal Society. They couldn't read it and shelved it. over 100 years later, Ogam was finally translated. The writing that Cotton Mather sent to the Royal Society over 100 years earlier turned out to be correct Ogam.

[RainDance]

we dont learn about that in school because vikings burned villages and stole woman.
_catroll_

[Malcolm]

we dont learn about that in school because vikings burned villages and stole woman.


everyone did that crap back then, the vikings were just better at it...