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Starlight
September 21st, 2001, 10:42 AM
My friend is having problems with an unwanted entity. It's throwing things (not at her just in general). Does anyone have any suggestions??
Illuminatus
September 21st, 2001, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Starlight
My friend is having problems with an unwanted entity. It's throwing things (not at her just in general). Does anyone have any suggestions??
If you're seeing things running through your head... who ya gonna call?
The invisible man sleeping in your bed... who ya gonna call?
<altogether now:>
...
slvr_phoenix
September 21st, 2001, 11:07 AM
Cute Illuminatus. I miss that movie.
On a more serious note though, Starlight, getting the entity to leave can depend a lot on just why it's there in the first place. If you gave us more information, we might be able to help better.
However, one general method for cleansing unwanted nasties and energy away is to burn sage until the cows come home or you're almost gagging on the smoke. (Whichever comes first.) :)
Lilu
September 21st, 2001, 05:07 PM
One method I like is to light a black and white candle on my altar in the middle of the room (or house if you are doing the house), and then take sage or some other incense for cleansing/protection like dragon's blood, frankincense or myrrh and smudge all the furniture, walls, and especially around the windows and doors.
I draw pentacles at each of the directions, and at the doors and windows too and ask the gods for protection, and that they guide the entity back to it's proper place. Go from room to room doing this if you are doing the whole house. I will then sprinkle salt around the perimeter of each room.
I also charge amethyst with the same intention of banishing/protection and place one in each corner of the room or if doing the whole house, in each "corner" of the house forming a grid around the house.
This is really basic, but it's worked for me in the past every time I've used it.
BB
Lilu
Amethyst_rose
September 21st, 2001, 11:26 PM
I think that how you deal with an entity depends totally on that entity. I suggest getting someone with some kind of experience in this area to figure out what it is, why its here, and how dangerous it is. Your friend could be dealing with a very powerful force that has staken its claim either on her or the area, if this is the case I would avoid trying to contact it at all, get someone or some group just as powerful to deal with it. On the other hand, if it is just lost or can't move on there could be some simple things you could do like said above. I still think you should proceed very carefully until you have an idea of what you're dealig with. You don't want to aggrevate the situation. Please step cautiously, that is the best advice I can give.
Starlight
September 24th, 2001, 08:45 AM
Thank you everyone for your suggestions!
As Slvr Phoenix suggested i will tell you more about it. This is a known spirit. We have "talked" to him a # of times. He says that he is one of Jenn's (my friend) spirit guides (1 of 5) and he has helped her a # of times in the past. I think that he just throws things or whatever ( he does more) to express that he doesn't approve of something. I have even asked both of my spirit guides to talk to him but they don't get along with him they say. He doesn't throw things very often mostly just little stuff like screwing up the phone when she is talking to someone he doesn't like or he'll move something . He is just getting to controling and annoying.. I don't know if this helps any but..!?
:woah:
Lilu
September 24th, 2001, 09:28 AM
Hi Starlight,
I would beware this entity. I don't know about others, but my understanding and experience with spirit guides is that they WON'T take a negative stance around you to the point of throwing things.
Just because they "say" they are a spirit guide doesn't make it so. There are entities and spirits out there who feed on energy and will tell you anything so you will allow them to hang around- or to make themselves seem more important and powerful than they are.
I think I would seek a professional's advice on this - and do the cleansing and protection ritual. If you specify in the protection that only benevolent entities may enter, it would still allow any positive guides in - and if he chooses to behave he would probably be able to enter.
Don't take that sort of crap just because they claim to be a spirit guide, he could quite simply be lying.
BB
Lilu
Myst
September 24th, 2001, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by Lilu
I think I would seek a professional's advice on this - and do the cleansing and protection ritual.
Ditto. Also, if you have any door facing mirrors cover them or move them (superstition states that they allow negative spirits to enter), as well as using protective measures such as casting a permanent protective circle to keep negative energies out, drawing runes on your doors for protection, asking deities of protection, dragons, or other creatures to help protect your home (I have a dragon statue that helps me connect to a dragon I've asked to watch over my home and keep negative energies out). I also light a white candle for the benevolent spirits of my home (devas, ghosts, fae folk, so on) and give them gifts of honey, sugar, fresh milk, flowers, incense, and a quartz point at different times and I find they help to bless my home. You should also afterwards endeavour to cleanse your home magickally often (by using a ritual similar to the reiving ritual here (http://www.willowraven.com/bos/practices/reiv.php)) to banish negative entities.
slvr_phoenix
September 25th, 2001, 01:05 PM
Yep. I've got to agree with Lilu. Spirits will do and say all sorts of things to feed on whatever energies you let them get their hands on.
Of course that can also be used as an advantage if you can find an actual use for the spirit that outweighs putting up with it. Heh heh.
In any event though, I'd suggest trying to find a local expert and get them to investigate more, as well as perhaps to do a cleansing spell to remove any energies and spirits which have the potential to be harmful to your friend and the people your friend loves. Normally such wording is a little overly-cleansing as a lot of things have the potential to be harmful but aren't likely to ever be. In this case though, it might help.
Also, I'd suggest if at all possible to perform as much divination as you can stand to learn all about this spirit (such as it's motivations, intent, and possabilities) before you do anything drastic. It may very well be what it says it is after all, in which case perhaps just trying to keep it happy would be better than trying to get rid of it. **shrug**
Starlight
September 25th, 2001, 01:16 PM
Thanks Everyone for all your suggestions I'll be sure to tell my friend them. She's a Wiccan too. :ghost:
Sequoia
September 25th, 2001, 04:35 PM
starlight - I completely agree with everyone here.
also- I have dealt with this kind of thing, myself. When I first was introduced to magick and such, I seemed to be one big icky-stuff magnet (some people just are). The first "spirit" "entity" etc I ever saw scared the crud outta me. I saw this weird face at my window, almost like an evil clown if that makes any sense. My first instinct was being scared and such, but I tried to ignore it. Then I tried to banish it (I was NOT experienced nor did I have any spells or rituals. . .just trying to use my will). It didn't work.
After a while, I thought he was a good guy. I THOUGHT he tried to make peace with me by ringing a chime on my porch (there was no wind, and he only rang ONE of them in a big string, which is pretty darn hard to do), hence I nicknamed him "chime ringer."
. . .this guy was nothing but trouble. He played all nicey nice to me while attracting everything with a bad attitude for miles and miles around. He spied on me. He even tried to sleep with me :mad: (dont' ask, I'm still not sure wtf he was thinking :rolleyes: )
Eventually he became such a problem, I told some much more experienced friends of mine about him. They agreed he was a bad influence, and gave him a "warning." He didn't listen. Hence he got his butt forcefully REMOVED from my vicinity, and a friend placed a guardian with me for a while.
You may need some extra help with this. There are a lot of nice creatures out there, but there's also a HECK of a lot of nasty ones, and sometimes you just can't tell who's who. Caution is the name of the game. So talk to your friends or elders, if you have any. They'll probably be able to help you.
Sequoia
September 25th, 2001, 04:38 PM
oh - one more quick note.
Something I've noticed about things like that. . . especially for me. If you're feeling threatened, remember: the walls of your house are like the walls of a fortress: unless you want something to come in, they cannot. You have to open the door or window and invite them in. When I get nervous, I close the windows and doors. It may just be my own personal superstition, but it helps me feel better. And don't forget either: you CAN command them to leave, if you only believe in yourself.
I was wondering, have you and your friends worked on shielding? because if not, you really ought to. It would probably be helpful. shielding and grounding are essential basics! :)
Starlight
September 25th, 2001, 08:18 PM
I'm a little fuzzy on sheilding and grounding. If it's not too much to ask could you brief me a little?
:confused:
Dria El
September 26th, 2001, 09:55 AM
I'd just make them leave. Tell them (yes, like you're talking to a real person) to GET OUT and MEAN it. It's worked for me in the past. You do have to mean it though.
Just a thought...
slvr_phoenix
September 26th, 2001, 11:30 AM
Well, if you want to know more about shielding and grounding, you can always do a search in the Magick and Rituals forum. (Not so subtle plug for my forum. He he he.) I know there was a discussion about that just recently at the thread:
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8052
And if you can't find what you're looking for, you can always ask in that thread or start up a new one. :)
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