The "In My Head" People

[Darakash]

Uh, no, I don't mean I have people in my head!:tv: Just in case you were wondering.....

Anyway, what I am actually talking about, is I am one of those people who seems to constantly think about everything, research, write thoughts down, make lists, think some more, analyze existing data, think some more, find a flaw, find a connection, think some more, shall I go on? And I am beginning to realize that all this thinking is keeping me from doing. Specifically this can be related to my spiritual life and doing things like meditation, ritual, any sort of magick etc. I am not quite sure if this lack of doing stems from some fear of doing something "wrong" or if it is just plain lazyness or what.....I know that the best response to this is "just do it" but I am wondering if there are other "in my head" people out there who are faced with similar lack of experience and how you feel about that or what if anything you do/did about it etc.

Dk

[fervidnymph]

i am very much an in my head kinda girl. spontinaity is not in my active vocabulary! for instance: im a solitary, i have spent a month working on a ritual( writing planning, correspondences, planets, ect.) and i'm so busy thinking and planning and reading my notes, that the day ive been planning for has passed without my recognition. :bug: partly because im a perfectionist, and deffinatly because i think far to much. my hubby sometimes will come into the bedroom (where i seem to do my bestthinking) and say "hey, can i pull you outta your head for a minute?"my thinking "problem" is what makes me think(ha! there i am again) that i might need the structure of a coven or atleast a formal teacher. but thusfar ive been unable to find one or the other. i started my book of shadows 3 yrs ago, but my lists and other info are still on notbookpaper stuck in my book, but the pages of the book itself are blank. i just keep stuffing in notes! i'll figure it out eventually i supose!

[Darakash]

i am very much an in my head kinda girl. spontinaity is not in my active vocabulary! for instance: im a solitary, i have spent a month working on a ritual( writing planning, correspondences, planets, ect.) and i'm so busy thinking and planning and reading my notes, that the day ive been planning for has passed without my recognition. :bug: partly because im a perfectionist, and deffinatly because i think far to much. my hubby sometimes will come into the bedroom (where i seem to do my bestthinking) and say "hey, can i pull you outta your head for a minute?"my thinking "problem" is what makes me think(ha! there i am again) that i might need the structure of a coven or atleast a formal teacher. but thusfar ive been unable to find one or the other. i started my book of shadows 3 yrs ago, but my lists and other info are still on notbookpaper stuck in my book, but the pages of the book itself are blank. i just keep stuffing in notes! i'll figure it out eventually i supose!

So glad to know I am not the only one! my hubby usually refers to it as "my cave" rather than my head, as your's does, but same idea! I have a mentor, but his path is very different than mine....it wasn't when i first started and found him, but has changed, and while he is helpful....he can't do the actual "doing" for me.....I suppose if I were in a more structured, maybe task/assignment based situation, that woud probably help me too. Maybe I will speak to him about helping me to structure something, as I am very task oriented when I am expected to do a task...hmmm food for thought (more thought yippee!) :crazyman:
DK

[RyvinAzael]

Uh, no, I don't mean I have people in my head!:tv: Just in case you were wondering.....

Anyway, what I am actually talking about, is I am one of those people who seems to constantly think about everything, research, write thoughts down, make lists, think some more, analyze existing data, think some more, find a flaw, find a connection, think some more, shall I go on? And I am beginning to realize that all this thinking is keeping me from doing. Specifically this can be related to my spiritual life and doing things like meditation, ritual, any sort of magick etc. I am not quite sure if this lack of doing stems from some fear of doing something "wrong" or if it is just plain lazyness or what.....I know that the best response to this is "just do it" but I am wondering if there are other "in my head" people out there who are faced with similar lack of experience and how you feel about that or what if anything you do/did about it etc.

Dk

Yes that describes me as well growing up. With age and life experiences you will learn when the time is right and what to do. The experiences that you will have will change you...they will change how you look upon various aspects of life [including magickal arts] they may even throw you a curveball and hey...you may learn something new
:thumbsup:

Ryvin.

[Darakash]

Yes that describes me as well growing up. With age and life experiences you will learn when the time is right and what to do. The experiences that you will have will change you...they will change how you look upon various aspects of life [including magickal arts] they may even throw you a curveball and hey...you may learn something new
:thumbsup:

Ryvin.

Heh, well, i guess I better get a move-on since I am 35! It is not so much that I lack life experience, it is more that I lack motivation beyond the thought process...it is almost like since I have thought about something enough it often feels like I did it even though I didn't and of course, unless one actually experiences something it is not the same. Does that make sense? DK

[RyvinAzael]

Yes that makes sense. You are a thinker...that's what you do :)

You are the ones who figure things out and comes out with great results and conclusions. I have seen many a magickal circle that has been improved and spells cast that the members have had no idea were possible.

Now from this point....walk a steady line. If you lean more towards actions...then you [generally] will have less thinking involved. If you are willing to go head-first into the process then you will lose much of your thinking processes and will move towards becoming an "action" person who gets the job done. From there on you will have to "remember" the way you used to look at things and remember how to think about them in that particular way you did.

Yes, it has been said that people can go right from thinking into an action person. This however takes much much more time as the thinking person will literally _think_ about every situation and how to place his/her self inside that situation. That leaves for a much larger room of errors and possibilites of doing something wrong. {Something a person who lives on the edge and a thinker would like.}

Hope this helps,
Ryvin.

[RyvinAzael]

To better understand my post read fervi's bit and think about the 'thinkers' :)

[Darakash]

This however takes much much more time as the thinking person will literally _think_ about every situation and how to place his/her self inside that situation. That leaves for a much larger room of errors and possibilites of doing something wrong. {Something a person who lives on the edge and a thinker would like.}

Could you clarify this section/paragraph....I have no idea what you are trying to say :hmmmmm:

[RyvinAzael]

This however takes much much more time as the thinking person will literally _think_ about every situation and how to place his/her self inside that situation. That leaves for a much larger room of errors and possibilites of doing something wrong. {Something a person who lives on the edge and a thinker would like.}

a person who lives on the edge and a thinker would like to: literally _think_ about every situation and how to place his/her self inside that situation. That leaves for a much larger room of errors and possibilites of doing something wrong, however it will be their nature to take on the possibilites. If that is for you, then you know what to do :)

[words re-arranged and a few added]

Ryvin.

[Sylvan]

Definitely another in my head person here. Been on my path 11 years now, and still am stalled at learning and reading and thinking... :P

[Xentor]

I'm a thinker too.

I tend to work out scripts of the actions I'm going to take, and I will act them through in my head before actually doing it. Thus I may spend hours preparing for something, which of course uses so much time I rarely get around to doing it at all.

I also tend to make sure that I know what I'm doing. I tend to look before I leap. More often than not, that leads to not leaping at all.

This has a positive effect on most of the actions I do take: I am likely to succeed. However, there are many actions where my ability to predict only can go so far, which means I need to improvise on the spot. Having gone through several different scripts in my mind allows me to predict which improvisation yields the best results.

And yes, there have been a couple of times where I just had to say: stop thinking and start acting. Let it happen. Experience.

[semi]

My philosophy used to be read, read, read, think, re-think, re-read, etc. And it was great, I learned a lot. But after awhile you have to apply the knowledge or it doesn't serve much use. Now I just do, do, do. Thinking and the acquisition of knowledge lay the foundation for growth, but active experience is growth.

Not sure if that came out right, but I'm just going to let it go and not think about it.

[fireswimmer]

You are not alone! I think everything to death. In some ways I am great on the doing end and in other ways I plan it to death but do not manage to execute it. I have been looking at piles of stuff in my living room and am now deciding to deal with the stuff that I hate. I have read an organizational book for right brained people, and am now going to start executing the plans.

This does nto sound very spiritual, but fo rme it is. Taking care of the mundane stuff is important to my spiritual life. I also think that decluttering is wonderful for sanity. That means I am also working on executing as I plan so that the details do not become so complicated that the project can never get done. You are so not alone!

This is hard for me and I am just hoping that my hubby's support lasts the time that I need it to. Before I move I want the clutter out of my physical, spiritual, and interpersonal life. I move at the end of August.