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Danustouch
September 21st, 2001, 04:31 PM
Okay...I know I said I was staying away from the boards for a while. I've only come in to check PM's and post some poetry, and have been staying away from the more ...serious forums. But..I had an idea this morning, that I shared with Mol, and he thought it was a good idea. So I'm posting it here, and asking one of the Mods from this forum, to please "stuck" it. Could you Kay???

I was watching the news last night, when they started discussing the psychological effects of last weeks tragedies, upon our nation's citizens. The Poll, which interviewed Mental Health Professionals, and RedCross Support Workers, said that 1 in every 3 Americans, is having problems sleeping, since the tragedies. 8 out of every 10 Americans, is experiencing, and reporting symptoms of depression. People are also, unable to concentrate on their daily duties, due to the stress, and depression. The contributing causes to this stress? Obviosly, fear for our safety. Fear for our economy. Worry and Grief over loved ones, Worry that our Sons/daughters/fathers/mothers/brothers/sisters will be drafted or otherwise sent over seas. We must remember..that many of our Nations population, are still too young to remember the Gulf War. And to most of us, that war seemed MILD in comparison to the threaghts we feel now. This is taking an extreme emotional toll on people. Both in the real world, and on this board. I decided to take a break because of it..peoples nerves have been raw because of it, people have been PMing me, about their own fears, their own terror, their own stress. We cannot ignore, how largely this has impacted our daily lives, and our minds. We are a nation wounded. A community, wounded. And we need to be there for eachother.

In that spirit, I would like to organize a group of "peer support counsellors", for Mystic Wicks. Thes Peer Support workers, would be available through various instant messaging systems, etc, to provide a listening ear, some support, and some understanding, to those who are feeling afraid, worried, stressed, greiving, frustrated, etc, here at Mystic Wicks. There are no prerequisites for becoming one of these peer counsellors, except that you be tolerant, understanding, patient and supportive. A good listener, and non judgemental. Remember...the goal is not to "Solve" the problem...its to give our members a voice for their feelings during this difficult time.

Allow me to put a disclaimer here. Those of us who volunteer for this task, are NOT trained counsellors. For that reason, if you do come to us, be aware that we are no substitute for a mental health professional. So if you're symptoms of depression are severe, if you are having self destructive, or harmful thoughts, you may want to seek the advice of a professional. We will also have a list of Crisis Counselling Hotlines, and such, on hand, to give to anyone who needs them. Our goal..as peer counselors, is to be a friend...and a supportive shoulder to lean on, during the difficult months ahead.

If anyone is interested in sighning on to be one of these Mystic Wicks Peer Counsellors, Please contact me at Moonsglowing@aol.com, or PM me here, and I will sighn you up, immediately.

If anyone needs someone to talk to...I am available to chat through AIM, at Moonsglowing. So please, during these difficult times, do NOT hesitate to reach out for help.

Thank you.
Danus.

Danustouch
September 22nd, 2001, 12:40 AM
oh..and let me add. Noone expects these peer counselors to be online and available 24-7. Basically, if you volunteered, you would make your contact info available..like..whatever AIM or Yahoo Instant Message nic you used, and an email address where people could leave messages. That way...if you weren't online, they could either leave a message for you to make a time to get together and chat..or they could just wait for you to come online again.

C'Mon people..start volunteering!!!! Or I may just have to grab some of you, and Tickle you until you agree to help out :)

By the way..can one of the Mods, please stick this thread? Just for a week or so?

Wiccan Maeve
September 22nd, 2001, 03:07 AM
I'd be willing to take part in this. I'm not a licensed counselor or anything, but I'm a wonderful listener and I'm always online. I'm the one who everyone comes to when they're having troubles in life.

Here's all of my contact info -

Email: HoneyDreads@Drakmail.net, ICQ ID: 91359323, MSN ID: HoneyDreads@Hotmail.com, Yahoo ID: HoneyDreads

Love & light,
HoneyDreads

Swanspirit
September 22nd, 2001, 03:39 AM
and am nationally certified in Psychiatric and Mental Heatlh Nursing......and I would suggest that some guidelines for who ever is volunteering be posted...... because some counseling can do more harm than good......and I mean this very seriously.........it is not the same as responding in a post with ones opinion... and it very much is not about advice giving....
Counseling requires at the very least an ethical
stance ...... that insists that everyone counseled be treated with UNCONDITIONAL POSITIVE REGARD.....and even a very nonstructured
peer support group usually has some guidelines....again at the very least some trigger phrases to be alert for ...... perhaps we need to list some of these for everyone ..... to see how we are faring with our stress....
because we all have some.....but I would be happy to volunteer......
and another thought ........ remember to say "I am not up for this right now " ,as a listener.. perhaps it might be better to speak to someone else .. rather than increasing the stress on yourself if you are on overload at that moment....better to come back fresh than
put yourself over the line stress wise.....
Love and Light and sign me up.....hmmmm the stress test .....
Swannie
Swannie

Twilight Garden
September 22nd, 2001, 04:24 AM
Good idea, Swan. You're wearing your intelligence and counsel technique beautifully. One of my best friends, the HP of the church, is also a counselor. Oh, the stories I hear... I could never do it myself. You all sound right on track! Hope you don't hear from me! Ha! :eek: :devil:
Good luck.

Danustouch
September 22nd, 2001, 10:35 AM
I agree that we will have to work out some guidelines. So anyone who is interested in doing this...it would be good if we could get together in a chatroom, or some other way, and put our heads together about what our guidelines should be. As I start hearing more people get interested in this, I will be sending emails to you all, asking for your imput for guidelines, etc. Like I said, we will have to have some crisis counseling hotline info, on hand, in case we run into situations that we are not capable of handling, ourselves. So put your heads together..with some ideas...and let me know :)

Thank you for your volunteering!

Margie
September 22nd, 2001, 11:07 AM
I PMed you. I do think this is a good idea.

Swanspirit
September 22nd, 2001, 11:12 AM
can be communicated in the thread ...... because it wouldnt hurt to get some of this information out there anyway .......... as in how to deal with someone who is suicidal ,, which would be one of the highest risks.......
being able to know the difference in risk between someone who is having simple
#1 suicidal ideation (thoughts) and someone with #1suicidal ideation ,
#2preoccuopation...... constant thoughts of suicide
#3 a plan...... the actual blueprint as in shooting .. jumping.... hanging
and #4the means to carry it out......... having a gun a place in mind or a rope.....
and even higher risk someone who has attempted it in the past
Those questions need to be asked in a gentle way ......and non threatening manner.....
as in have you hought about harming yourself.....?
and instead of going into the "why" or telling them to stop ....which is proven inefective .... to ask
have you thought about this a lot ?? how you would do it ?? do you have something specific in mind?? etc etc......
and VALIDATE the persons depth of feeling as in
you must feel very bad to be thinking like that .....asking if they have any solutions in mind ......
to determine if they have any capacity for hope or future planning....
Future planning is a great indicator that even though someone is feeling heopless and helpless .......they do have some positive feelings to work with and can see some kind iof future ....bodes very well ....... for not attempting to harm oneself....
One method that I use very successfully is the finger snap method ..... I like to call it..... to help someone get some perspective .... because anyone thinking about killing themselves is hurting so much......
I say if you could end ALL THe PAIN with a snap of your fingers would you want to kill yourself??or die ?? I have not ever had someone say no........
and then the natural sequence of thought is
well then perhaps you dont want to die ... what you REALLY want is to end the pain..... and you just dont see how to do that yet??or think that it could happen ........ and then offer the idea that perhaps there are ways to end the hurt that might be unknown to this person as yet and worth exploring........
That is the important thing too to be able to offer solutions.........
Love and Light
Swannie

Autumn Gemini
September 22nd, 2001, 11:19 AM
Danu,
Sign me up. While I am not licensed I have had several classes while in the nursing program and preparing for the program. Currently, I'm getting a refresher class helping my best friend study for her psychology class. I have a personal understanding of depression having bipolar disorder myself. Maybe this will keep me from wanting to sleep 24/7. I can't say I can solve anybody's problems but I am known to at least get people to open up and to smile. :)

AIM: AutumnWitchie
AutumnWitchie@aol.com

Faery-Wings
September 24th, 2001, 07:49 AM
Is this still in the works? I hope so, I could really use someone to talk to. I am really struggling and if there is anyone who could help, I would be so grateful.

Chris

NightFire
September 24th, 2001, 08:07 AM
this is a good idea. I wouldn't feel comfortable in attempting to counsel anyone on this subject though, since I would likely make it worse. My opinions are very different than most pagans (probably because I was in the military for so long :) ). I have been trained as a counselour though, and anyone that would like to talk about most anything, I'm available. Just realize that in the case of the terrorist attacks, I might offend people.

PHOENIX KISSES!!!
COYOTE SLOBBERS!!!
MOON HUGS!!!!
NIGHT SNUGGLES!!!
FIRE LICKS!!!!

hehe

Yvonne Belisle
September 24th, 2001, 10:12 AM
I have been on in the past for anyone who just needs someone to talk to. It's part of why my contact info is in my sig. If anyone needs me I am on a lot and my hubbie is normally on when i'm not and can come get me.

Danustouch
September 24th, 2001, 11:17 AM
Chryssi,

Hon..we're here for you. I know that Yvonne, Twig, Shyhawk, Myself, and others who I will post a list of as soon as possible, are all here for you, and all of the members of Mystic Wicks.

Yvonne has listed her contact info, here, and I have AIM, my handle is Moonsglowing and you can reach me any time during the day, there. If you don't have AIM, and would like to talk to me, we can meet in a chat somewhere if you'd like. Just PM me and let me know..ok hon???? Lots of love and hugs to you!

Faery-Wings
September 24th, 2001, 05:29 PM
Danus and all,

I am going to add you all to my AIM, I am not on all that much but I really feel the need to talk to someone. I feel like I am suffocating, literally and figuratively. And I get SAD coming in the next months- I need to get out of this grip before that hits. I have been having mild panic attacks- terrorist related mostly- almost constantly- I know it is not good. But I am having a lot of difficulty resuming any semblance of "normal life."

Any advice or help or just a hug will help.

Blessings to all of you.

Chris