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nevermore_2008
January 19th, 2005, 06:14 PM
my mom and i got into a huge fight about wicca last night ,
i tried to reason with her , but she just wont listen , and refuses to learn
she says ill go to hell, i explained to her its not satainism and that i dont belive in hell,
but she just wont listen , i cryed so much and so hard my eyes still hurt

arctic splash
January 19th, 2005, 06:38 PM
Sorry. :hugz:

But if she believes in hell, and you don't believe in hell, then your not believing in it is probably just another reason you'll go there (at least, to her).

I know, it's hard when your mom won't listen to you, especially about something so important to you. If she really knew what was best for you, though, I'm sure she would support you.

Katya
January 19th, 2005, 06:43 PM
i'm so sorry you have a mom like that. even if she doesn't seem like it, she still loves you dearly. i don't know what that's like, seeing as my mom was the one to raise me pagan. :hugz: to you and i hope it resolves in the end.

Faeawyn
January 19th, 2005, 07:36 PM
:hugz: I know its hard. But stick to your own beliefs and let her have her own. One day, you may get her to see a little of your side, or you may not ever change her opinion. I've found that it's best to agree not to discuss religion with certain people. If you agree mutually, it usually works out fine. Just tell her, "Mom, I love you...but we believe differently, and I don't want to fight....so can we just agree not to discuss the topic of religion?"....hopefully, she'll understand :hugz:

audi
January 19th, 2005, 07:39 PM
wow. i feel like i wrote that post myself and i havent even told my mom yet. i know that is how she belives though. so sorry hunny. hope things work out. *hugs*

equinox2
January 20th, 2005, 01:02 PM
Ouch!

I feel for you. Sadly, she may fully believe that the Bible is literally true and must be followed. The Bible is also clear time and again that the “correct” religion is more important than family. For instance from the book of Deuteronomy Chapter 13:


If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" ... do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death….


This continues again and again, with even Jesus saying in the gospel (Mt 10:37):


Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me (Jesus) is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me

So she’s torn between her love for you vs what her scripture says. Hopefully she won’t decide that her religion is more important than your relationship. I’ve seen it go either way in other cases, so either way, remember that you are a wonderful person who deserves dignity and respect, as all people do. Hang in there, and hopefully you can both have a loving relationship, even if you both have to decide not to talk about religion. You might promise to go to a church, and then go to a UU church, where Pagans are accepted. PM me if you like.

Love and light-

Spirit Moon
January 20th, 2005, 01:22 PM
:hugz: This sounds exactly like my mother...

Naiad
January 20th, 2005, 02:12 PM
:hugz: Don't worry about it. Your mum will come around in the end although she may not be competely happy with your beliefs. For the meantime agree to disagree. If you accept her beliefs then maybe in time she'll accept yours. If you feel she's not listening then try writing her a letter. Hope ya work it out soon.

nevermore_2008
January 22nd, 2005, 11:31 AM
hey thanks everyone ,
im really glad that you were there to talk
to , you made me feel better

rottencandy7
January 22nd, 2005, 11:41 AM
speaking of that, my parents and I got into the subject of religion. It was a spinoff of the Da Vinci Code conversation(;)), and my parents agree its more a personal choice than anything. I'm really sorry your mother feels that way, but im sure she loves u deeply. and ditto all the other nice things everyone was saying :hugz:

That bible verse seemed to touch of the subject of if another entices you to do the same as them, then there would be the stoning and what not. It doesn't appear to me that she is telling her mother to do as she does, and the mother still believe the word of the bible, then i don't think there really should be an issue. i'm half asleep right now at work and if anything i say doesn't make sense, then just ignore me :)

2-G
January 22nd, 2005, 11:53 AM
:hugz: I'm so sorry.... I'm going through something similar with my mom... it sucks so fricken bad...

Thing is, my mom can't say too much because my grandfather(who lives with us) is also Pagan. I have a feeling he says things to soften the blows... I don't know.

I really hope things get better for you.

Shatril
January 22nd, 2005, 11:58 AM
Well the thing is that she doesn't believe. It is ok for her. You just need to accept that not everyone is gonna convert to paganism, anymore that everyone would convert to christianity. If everyone was exactly the same the world would be quite boring. I know it hurts your feelings to have your mom feel that way, but she is only concerned for your wellbeing within her own range of beliefs. She loves you or it wouldn't upset her so badly that you are in her opinion in dire need of help. Show some compassion for her feelings. Don't flaunt you beliefs at her. She may come round to at least listening to you in time.

Shatril