Altering Your Energy to Create a Desired Effect

[Myst]

Doesn't that topic sound esoteric?

I was referring to the fact that yesterday I got my hair cut and the hairdresser was very overtly rude. I was left in shock and she continued. Finally I intentionally altered my energy to be angry by thinking about what I would say to her angrily and altering the feeling fo that energy. That's when she backed off.

I'm thinking this is almost like a simple glamoury.

Have you had any experiences like this or do you have comments?

[loopy]

:D I've had experiences like that before, but never really thought to call it a glamoury. Makes sense though.

[Swanspirit]

on SOME level even if they dont acknowledge it or are aware of it consciously........
Once a long time ago I was in a car accident where someone was SPEEDING down the highway with NO LIGHTS ON in a grey car at almost complete dark almost an hour after sunset........I had no way to see this guy..... and when I pulled out and I had waited a long time to see that any lights were WAAAY down the road.... he totaled my car......no- one was hurt........ but I got a ticket......because I was the one pulling out ( the whole thing was wierd because right in the middle of stopping traffic some crazy drunk in a little red pinto drove RIGHT through the flares.... almost hit the COP ...... and the trooper jumped into his car to go chase that guy ......)ANYWAY ......
to defend myself in court I got the almanac to show when the sun set on that day .. etc and I had my energy all set ....... and the guy never even showed up in court.... and he had threatened to sue because he needed muscle therapy and HIS WIFE was the chiropracter LOL ..... he never even came to court.....I know the energy I had built up was felt by him .....there was more to the story and the guy that hit me had been drinking as well.....but the point is........ that definitely changing your energy can be felt...... some people call some types of energy changes a "glamoury" but "glamours" are also referred to by the esoterics as that which we use to deceive ourselves .....
Check out Alice Bailey on that one.....
Love and Light
Swannie

[Faery-Wings]

I have never thought of it as giving energy to create a desired effect, but like Swannie said, I know I have done it subconsciously. I know I give off vibes, especially when I am upset or angry. Or hurt. I can think of several times that a friend hurt me unintentionally and the relationship got weird until I let go of the hurt. And this is even when I was trying to cover up my true feelings.


Chris

[Swanspirit]

" glamour

In esoteric teachings the word glamour has a particular meaning. Alice A. Bailey defines it as mental
illusion when intensified by desire, occurring on the astral plane. "Glamour has been likened to a mist
or fog in which the aspirant wanders and which distorts all that he sees and contacts, preventing him
from ever seeing life truly or clearly or the conditions surrounding him as they essentially are... He is
deceived by the appearance and forgets that which the appearance veils. The emanatory astral
reactions which each human being initiates ever surround him and through this fog and mist he looks
out upon a distorted world." (Glamour - A World Problem (1950)).

The human race is held sway, Bailey says, "by a very ancient glamour or series of glamours, of
entrenched desires, potent aspirations of some kind and definitely human-made forms which seek to
hold the consciousness of humanity upon the astral plane. Such a glamourous concept is that of
money and its materialistic value. This glamourous desire is like a dense fog, cutting off the vision of
truth, and distorting a very large number of human values."

Contributed by Alan Pert, Sydney, Australia "
Love and Light
Swannie

[slvr_phoenix]

I agree with you Willow Raven that what you were doing was a simple use of Glamoury. Fun, isn't it? :)

While the word 'glamour' may have numerous definitions (as do many words), as Swanspirit has been so kind to point out, the term Glamoury when relating to Magick is simply paraphrased as the use of spells and energy on one's self (or someone else) to change how people view you (or someone else). Which is exactly what this sounds like a discussion on. :) (And not a discussion on deluding ourselves, which should probably go into a different thread all together, perhaps in the Theology and Philosophy forum.)

I believe that the use of Glamoury is something that most people are capable of, but I have also heard it said that people who are in some way empathic are not only more receptive to other people's energies, but also give off a stronger energy themself, and therefore are more powerful projectors of Glamoury. So it's possible that some people are just a lot more adept at it than others.

It is a skill that I have used from time to time myself for numerous purposes. It can not only be used to intimidate people, but also to calm them by projecting yourself as non-hostile and friendly. In fact people will often even open up to you if you project the energy of a person who is a good listener. It can make long and boring taxi rides a little more interesting. ;)

And while Glamoury may get a bad name from some people who abuse it, I believe it is a powerful and useful tool that can accomplish many good things. :)

[Myst]

Originally posted by slvr_phoenix
And while Glamoury may get a bad name from some people who abuse it, I believe it is a powerful and useful tool that can accomplish many good things.

Very true. According to Ly de Angeles,

"A witch will take the mask on and off as is required... but a witch knows what the mask is!"

and

"To know yourself intimately is the first key in the art of glamouring; to be able to read each situation is the second key; to know that glamouring is a mask that can be put on or taken off at will is the third key."

[slvr_phoenix]

Yep Willow Raven. Right on! :)

I'd also add that a mask doesn't have to be a form of deception. It can just as readily be a clarification of the truth.

[Silver Venus]

Although ive read about masks and guises before Ive never thought of it like that ~ Or that it would have a name! Thank you both so much :D Ive learnt allot of new pharses and ways today!

We do it to some degree every day dont we ~ and so does everyone around us ~ Its just if we do it knowingly then possibilities can open up! :D

Thanks again :sunny:

[slvr_phoenix]

Exactly Silver Venus. :)

[phoenixsong]

I saw something in one book, I think it could have been To light a sacred flame by SRW, about glamouries.
The glamoury idea is something like what a lot of people do, when they're around someone they admire. They seem to become copies of them and take on some of their personality features. Has any one ever noticed that?

[Myst]

Originally posted by phoenixsong
I saw something in one book, I think it could have been To light a sacred flame by SRW, about glamouries.
The glamoury idea is something like what a lot of people do, when they're around someone they admire. They seem to become copies of them and take on some of their personality features. Has any one ever noticed that?

Yup. Some people way more then others.

For instance, a couple who meet in a bar might mimic eachother's body posture - ie. both leaning on their elbow, both with legs crossed a certain way, both taking a drink at the same time, etc.

Then you have people who literally change their lives to match someone else's - like someone who will suddenly have the same opinions, go the same places, and do the same things as the other. I know one girl who even faked being in a car accident a week after my friend did, she also started disliking the same people, talking the same way, even sometimes wearing the same outfits.

*shakes head*

[Xander67]

i THINK it may have something to do with cosmic theory, the emotions and energy we give out affects other ppls moods and has an effect on thier response....

in other words, learning what the desired response is...and chooseing our response wisely....could possibly "shock" them instead of us being shocked........

by not reacting the way they assume we will , we show them we will not be manipulated...:):):)

[phoenixsong]

One thing that alters some peoples energy seems to be music. I don't know if I'm the only one who experiences this, but some music especially rock or dramatic ballads have a really strange effect on me. What I'm thinking is shaped by the song. Once I had to leave a shop because of the music which was making me act really strange.

[Myst]

Originally posted by phoenixsong
One thing that alters some peoples energy seems to be music. I don't know if I'm the only one who experiences this, but some music especially rock or dramatic ballads have a really strange effect on me. What I'm thinking is shaped by the song. Once I had to leave a shop because of the music which was making me act really strange.

Totally! Sometimes when I'm going to a party I have to listen to some favourite music - something like Rammstein, Bif Naked, Alien Ant Farm, Nickelback, Tea Party, Econoline Crush, Metallica, etc. etc. etc.

[loopy]

:confused: I'm sorry, but you lost me. What do the chickens and all have to do with glamouries? What'd I miss?

[Xander67]

I think she was trying to actually make a good point Loopy,

she was saying how ppl expect us to portray a certain image and merely demonstrating how we are tooo often stereotyped and when we DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, the whole world judges us....

i think thats what she was saying

[loopy]

Oh. Ok. :-\


:) @ Xander

[Myst]

Actually I think she was replying to this thread thinking she was replying to the vegan thread, honestly.

[Swanspirit]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I will move it.......
Love and light
Swannie

[Xander67]

NOW I AM LOST

ok.........move it on over Loops.........
sits next to loopy in the lost minds section

[Swanspirit]

for any confusion......... I dont know how it happened but the response about the chickens was supposed to be in the vegetarian thread....... NOT the glamoury thread .....UNLESS you count that big guy over there in the chicken suit .........ROFLMAO .......remember he just "appears " to be a chicken
heheheheh
Swannie

[Xander67]

hey :mad: who you calling a chicken
and why did i just think swannie was calling me a chicken, when she was most likely talking about someone else......UGH:(

[phoenixsong]

Now I'm completely lost.

You are all completely insane.
And to think I thought I was the only one!:D

[Xander67]

heheh,,, "you're not alone after all" mmmmmmmmuuuuuwahhhhhhhhhh