elementals?

[leaf-shadow]

i am new and young and curious. every one here, plz tell me everything u know about elementals. are they natural spirits or can they be created by powerful spells?

[Faeawyn]

There's some interesting info here :)
http://www.echoedvoices.org/Feb2002/Elementals.html

[woodlandfairy]

I think sometimes that I see them out of the corner of my eye. They are silver floating lights, tiny in size. Woodlandfairy

[Gede]

MM~
The Elementals are the guardians of the four basic aspects of our physical world, though they are not wholly of this world either.

Air/Sylphs - These winged beings are often compared with Faeries, however there are differences between the two. In my view a Sylph is closer in vibration to an angel, a hallowed sense of self, and beautiful voices which resonate clearly within the halls of our souls. Their kingdom is that of the clouds, and they flow with the wind.

Fire/Salamanders - The Salamanders are amphibian creatures which are believed to be able to withstand the heat of the flame. I envision them as being made entirely of flames, and wherever they go they leave a trail of thick, black smoke spiralling behind them. Their eyes are a transfixing blue, that of the base of the candle-flame. They are powerful and to-the-point! Any Magick you work with them will be a searing heated experience!

Water/Undines - An Undine is akin to a merperson or water-nymph. I generally associate them with the tides and currents of the ocean, ebbing and flowing, in and out. The Undines are the crystaline reflections of the depth of being, they embody all that is within and all that seeks to withdraw to a common point.

Earth/Gnomes - These are not your garden-variety cutsie, but the hard-working miners of the deep Earth. Their eyes appear large and curious, peering at you noncommitally, perhaps as a sign of friendship. Trust is important to them, and if broken they will abandon you. They can be envisioned as having the tough-bark of a tree as their layer of skin, or perhaps they are moulded of clay. They are the essence of protection and symbiotic connection within the natural world.

As you get to know each Element and its guardian you will come to realise you have a personal relationship with each which will attract a certain emissary from each. At times different entities will appear when you call to a particular Element, and you will come to realise over time working with them that they are simply another manfestation of a primal building-block that is an Element.

Namaste, Gede...

[locustmage]

Elementals reside half in this world and half in thier respective planes... I have heard you can control them and have them do your bidding, but I believe they are part of the Sidhe(Shee) along with Faeries, elves, etc. And since you wouldn't want to infringe on a faery, well....

[Aidron]

For starters, elementals are not guardians of their particular element. Guardians are a whole other topic and realm of study, though they are closely linked by similarities with elementals.

Elementals consist entirely of the elemental energy in which they are aligned to. A sylph, for example possesses only qualities of air and can be reasoned with but not persuaded such as an undine. Of course, depending on how you view a fifth element, if any, such as it being the animating force present in all things, elementals could also be viewed as possessing both spirit and their particular elemental energy, though I do not agree with this. They cannot be created by any witch, wizard, or magical person, however.

[Verthandi]

Leaf, might I recommend www.google.com You can use that search engine to find other sites and info about elementals. If you want us to verify that a site has good info, we'd be more than happy to. Something like elemental magic is such a huge thing, and very broad and vague, that I don't think we could tell you everything.

[Toby Stimpson]

That being said, there are also many ways to view elements and elementals...make your own mind before asking here...learn your own way before asking for a platter...Namaskare.

Tobias

[Gede]

MM~

For starters, elementals are not guardians of their particular element. Guardians are a whole other topic and realm of study, though they are closely linked by similarities with elementals.

It is entirely perspective, and in truth the view that the Elementals guard their particular Element dosn't detract from the fact that they reside wholly in that Element, as the complete immersion in their essence of origin just increases their ability to guard, seal and reside within their Element. I too believe each Elemental spirit is an ethereal extension, a personified being of Fire, Water, Earth or Air. And I also believe that they guard their Element. Wouldn't you want to protect what is so completely yours?

Namaste, Gede...

[anagarically]

The way i learned and have always thought about elementals is the same as servitors. Basically created out of yourself. An element of you. It gains it's power, its reason and everything from you. But I do kindof seperate elementals and servitors. For several years I had an elemental that way kindof around me always, he was me of course, but the thing is, I did not know. He basically acted out my true will, and also provided protection. I created him when i was young, out of fear mainly, from my step-father and other things that I really don't wish to speak of. But I knew him like a spirit, and for the longest time, i thought he was a spirit that came to watch me. Until I read up on elementals, about how they are part of you and are created out of your own energy. Somehow I knew it was right, and one day, with great concentration and meditation, I joined him back into me. Since then I have been more able to tap into my own gifts, because before he was using them. Elementals and servitors I think of in the same way though. You create them, in one way or another. You nurture them, and they grow in power and in consciousness, that is provided by you. I mainly differentiate them as, elementals are usually in a guardian position, most 'guardian angels' are elementals that were created without your conscious knowledge. The protect you and do your true will. Servitors on the other hand, are usually created, consciously, for a certain purpose, a mission, to serve your conscious will. That is my take on elementals... as an element of yourself.. so... that is just me.. and im nuts... so... lol

[Morgandria]

So you are saying that elementals are like servitors? I was taught that servitors were created, and that elementals simply were, creatures of their particular element that were not and could not be created by humans.

I mean...you can create constructs that are elementally based (e.g fire construct, or air construct) for whatever purpose, but that's not the same as an elemental spirit...

[anagarically]

That is just what i take from my specific reading on several occassions about elementals. I had actually never heard the term elementals related to mythical beings that are associated with certain elements. I can see the link there. I am just stating what I have read and learned of the term elemental. So.....

But in either case, so be it. People seem to fight over terms, it is the idea that is most important. I think the original author needs to be more clear about what they meant as 'elementals', like what they are researching and what context they are wanting. I think of elementals as created guardians almost, acting out TRUE will, while servitors are acting out conscious will. That is just what I have linked to the word elemental... so... and you mentioned construct, when I hear that, I mainly think of pure psychic energy constructs, psychic material that is created and formed and can be used, in many ways, from playing psychic basketball, to a psychic dagger. Constructs to me are just pure energy objects, just in another plane. Elementals and servitors, I place as being seperate from the creator, usually on the ethereal level, having a semi-consciousness, attatched to your own... so... that is my take on the whole thing... whatever it counts for...

I really don't want to argue terms or words here, if there is any arguement, I would prefer it over the IDEAS, not the word, but the idea it is attatched too... so... thank you for at least reading... have a wonderful day... :-D

[Romani Vixen]

My perspective is that they are personifications of the elements.. Air, Earth, Fire, Water, and unifying spirit. I use myself to represent that spirit. Some people assign form to them (Butterflies, gnomes, salamanders, dolphins... what have you). Some people see them as simi-humanoid. So in that aspect you do create them... at least their form... welll you assign that form.

[leaf-shadow]

wow, thanx alot guys :) :)
and about google, sure i can use google, except that google brings me more than what i want to know. it comes up with all these rpg computer games and stuff... lol

[Phaedra B]

People seem to fight over terms, it is the idea that is most important. What if your terms are being used so eccentrically that the idea is not clearly communicated? I do think it is important to be clear about your terminology, especially when using terms that have had particular meanings in the magical community for perhaps hundreds of years.


I think the original author needs to be more clear about what they meant as 'elementals', like what they are researching and what context they are wanting. A valuable piece of advice for all posters..


I think of elementals as created guardians almost, acting out TRUE will, while servitors are acting out conscious will. Yep, but I'd transpose the roles ...


Elementals and servitors, I place as being seperate from the creator, usually on the ethereal level, having a semi-consciousness, attatched to your own... so... that is my take on the whole thing... whatever it counts for... As I learned/experience/have done it, one can send out constructed critters to do one's Will, which as you say, could be a background activity. However, Elementals are distinct critters with their own Realms and their own agendas. One enlists/compels/orders/assigns them specific tasks.

[Aidron]

MM~


It is entirely perspective, and in truth the view that the Elementals guard their particular Element dosn't detract from the fact that they reside wholly in that Element, as the complete immersion in their essence of origin just increases their ability to guard, seal and reside within their Element. I too believe each Elemental spirit is an ethereal extension, a personified being of Fire, Water, Earth or Air. And I also believe that they guard their Element. Wouldn't you want to protect what is so completely yours?

Namaste, Gede...


Actually, it's not. There already are guardians of the elements, which stem from the Enochian system of magic. Four exist with names in a pop-culture sense, though I have come across names for others. As I previously stated they are not the same as elementals.

They are not immersed in the element either, they are their respective elements. They embody it in all its flaws and wonders.

Your last analogy is not adequate. The elements do not belong to them, thus it is not theirs. They are their elements, and protecting their element would be like protecting themselves. It's redundant and above all not truly their concern. They focus on manifesting their elemental energies.

Again, this is factual, not perspective, and I say that while attempting to not come across as snotty. Perspective can play a part in it, but too much and it simply surrounds the facts in the proverbial fog that is ignorance.