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Earth Walker
September 26th, 2001, 07:00 PM
As the U.S. weighs options in its "new war," a humanitarian
crisis is unfolding in Afghanistan. Fearing U.S. military strikes,
hundreds of thousands of Afghans are heading for the border.
But doors into Pakistan, Iran and Tajikistan are slamming shut.
And with the withdrawal of foreign aid workers, food distribution
at refugee camps is drying up.
http://www.rabble.ca/rabble_rousers.shtml

silvermoon
September 26th, 2001, 07:31 PM
:wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:

.....The first casualty of war is INNOCENCE. In this case the INNOCENTS(ie. the general public of Afghanistan) will be the victims and casualties of this "war"......

silvermoon

Myst
September 26th, 2001, 08:00 PM
Actually I think the first innocent casualties were the people in the WTC and Pentagon. Even so, my heart goes to the people of Afghanistan who have also been victims of what's happened already.

Adrenaline Junkie
September 26th, 2001, 08:26 PM
It's utterly disgusting that innocent people have to suffer for what a few bad apples did.

silvermoon
September 26th, 2001, 08:44 PM
:( Of Course the people in the WTC and the Pentagon were innocents who did not deserve to die. My :heartthro and sympathies with those affected, directly or indirectly. And those responsible for these terrorist acts should be punished for what they perpetrated through the full weight of the law as JUSTICE, not VENGEANCE, should be seen to be done......But I was trying to show that the afghani people will be and are the victims and casaulties of war as they have been oppressed, starved and war torn for many, many years by various parties therefore are innocents as well. So these people have no way of defending or protecting themselves thus how can they pose a threat or any opposition to the Taliban or the US...... I feel that the mainstream media and the governments of the west don't seem to remember or gloss over to the conditions to which the afghani people suffer and seem to lump them with their oppressors, the Taliban, and the few Muslim extremist fanatics who commit acts of terrorism...... I hope that no one forgets the suffering of all INNOCENTS around the world and not just concentrate on those in OUR OWN BACK YARDS........

silvermoon

SageMoon
September 26th, 2001, 09:06 PM
It's terrible that any innocent person has to lose their life but if we don't stop the inhuman beings that causes the innocent casualties. There will be many ,many more. we need to look to the Lord and Lady for strength and understanding at this point in the road to bring a justifiable end to the chaos.

Blessed Be,
Sage Moon:(

Illuminatus
September 27th, 2001, 07:56 PM
Hello? Hello? Awaken from your dreamy state hunam!

Afghanistan has been a Human Catastrophe since 1989, when about a million of them were slaughtered resisting a Soviet invasion! The soviets destroyed damn near everything, the only thing left were the fracticious rebel groups that drove the ruskies out all those years ago. There is nothing in Afghanistan but rocks and land mines.

Nothing has changed. For these people, the question they are asking is "Can it get any worse" and the answer is invariably "no, not really".

Daniel
September 27th, 2001, 09:40 PM
Actually, Pakistan has not slammed its door shut. It has opened a refugee camp just six miles inside its boarder, given that 5,000-10,000 refugees were standing at the boarder, looking for someplace safe.

Yvonne Belisle
September 28th, 2001, 01:11 AM
The following came in my boneheads of the day mailer and I thought his feelings fit quite well here too. The main web site is located at
http://Bonehead.Oddballs.com




In the Evil Parallel Universe, some people commemorate the tragic deaths of
innocent people by using their sad deaths as an excuse to be just as evil to
others.

A68-year-old British Muslim who lost a daughter at the World Trade Center in
New York City during the attack is now being targeted by racists in London
and must struggle with his grief while enduring racial hatred.

He says, ''We condemn them [the terrorists]. When you destroy a tower, you
aren't just destroying steel and concrete, you are destroying lives. No
religion asks us to kill people.''

UK Sun 21-Sep-01


And while on the topic, I am not amused by the Emails sent to me with
pictures showing Afghanistan as a parking lot or a lake.

For those of you who think that the people of Afghanistan should be killed
for the terrorist attacks, I will give you three pieces of vital
information:

1. The Taliban are not Afghanistan but foreign invaders who defeated the
country and have created a living hell for the people of Afghanistan. There
is no electricity, no schools, no food, no roads and no medicines. The
Taliban throws acid in the faces of women who do not keep their faces
cloaked. Men are killed if their beards are too short. They kill their own
daughters if they violate their religious tenets.

2. Bin Laden is not an Afghanistan either but is also a foreigner.

3. Murder and suicide are strictly forbidden in the Islamic religion.

So what's your problem?

If any of you feel it justified to blame the people of Afghanistan, who are
among the most victimized people on earth, and you want them to die, even
though they are in no way involved in what happened, then I ask you if it
would be justifiable to kill all Catholics? After all the Irish Republican
Army (IRA) is run by extremist Catholics. Does Catholicism condone murder?
Should Jewish people be blamed for the Nazi atrocities during WW II? After
all, they were on German soil during the war hence they must be responsible
if you hold the people of Afghanistan responsible.

Similarly holding all Arabs responsible would be like condemning all of the
United States because of Timothy McVeigh's bombing in Oklahoma City. We
have these extremists here too, you know. Want to lob a few bombs on
Oklahoma and teach those Oklahomans a lesson?

What the United States needs to do is to destroy the Taliban and, in the
process, liberate the people of Afghanistan. Turn them into allies so there
will be one fewer country supporting terrorism. One more country to help us
against the extreme militant countries in the Middle East. This is the
American heritage. The United States has a long history of liberating
countries under fascist foreign rule and turning them into democracies.

We need to get rid of the terrorists and the leaders that support them. But
we need to do it without getting rid of the Oklahomans.

Myst
September 28th, 2001, 01:20 AM
very moving Yvonne. Thanks for sharing.

Daniel
September 28th, 2001, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas

What the United States needs to do is to destroy the Taliban and, in the process, liberate the people of Afghanistan. Turn them into allies so there will be one fewer country supporting terrorism.Truer words were never spoken in a thread started by Mystique.

Yvonne Belisle
September 28th, 2001, 01:34 AM
I wish the words were my own but when I read them I knew they belonged here.

Swanspirit
September 28th, 2001, 01:58 AM
but that post from you Yvonne did it......
and echoes the sentiments of so many Americans........even the ones who so deeply want these terrorists stopped...........and I thank you for posting it.....I have FEELINGS Of wanting revenge ......but I dont think ACTING on those feelings will benefit myself or my country...... so I think we are faced as a country with what to do to follow our ideals and keep ourselves safe......
And our most precious ideal is to prevent the taking of innocent lives.. otherwise we wouldnt have had our collective hearts ripped out by the events of the past weeks......
And I thank Mystique as well for her rapid fire posting of things that truly give us pause......some I have dismissed out of hand but others I have considered and weighed carefully but I couldnt have done that if the information wasnt there........
So isnt the question how to wage a compassionate war??? isnt that an oxymoron ???
I dont have all the answers but I want them very badly .......
Love and Light
Swannie