christopagans

[WynterSings]

Hello if you are following a christopagan path and would be willing to share some info and corresponde via email with me please send me a private message or an email. I was raised in a christian family and have studied lots of religions and within the past year or so began to explore paganism... I would like to know more about how the two paths can merge as I hold beliefs and respect for certain aspects of both... I am particulary interested in celtic christopaganism and if anyone blends either catholocism or quakerism with paganism. Thanks :halohead:

the email addy is leowriter75@hotmail.com

[Leander]

You should read "Walking the Mist" by Donald McKinney. The book explores some very interesting christopagan concepts with particular reference to Celtic Christianity.

[Aine of the Fae]

Hello if you are following a christopagan path and would be willing to share some info and corresponde via email with me please send me a private message or an email. I was raised in a christian family and have studied lots of religions and within the past year or so began to explore paganism... I would like to know more about how the two paths can merge as I hold beliefs and respect for certain aspects of both... I am particulary interested in celtic christopaganism and if anyone blends either catholocism or quakerism with paganism. Thanks :halohead:

the email addy is leowriter75@hotmail.com

You should join us over at the Christian Witch Gathering. It's a new, but growing community of those who associate with both Christianity and various forms of Paganism.

http://azure.bbboy.net/christianwitch

Also, starting February 15, I'm teaching a new round of the Christian Witchcraft class here at MysticWicks. It's free and I'd love to have you join us!

http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=111

[moonstone_dreams]

Also have you heard of the Irish priest/philosopher/poet John O'Donohue? I was in an Irish bookshop one day and saw his books Divine Beauty and Anam Cara. I bought the two books without so much as opening them up first, because when I feel such a strong impulse to do something (in this case -- buy the books), I don't question it. I wasn't disappointed!

At first I felt his writing to be very pagan, with a bit of Christianity in there, but he blends it so well, it's hard to tell the difference. I was surprised to discover he's a Catholic priest; he doesn't write like a priest. He accepts and embraces both the pagan and the Christian (Catholic), and Celtic traditions, and his writing is really a conglomeration of it all.

If it interests you, check it out. I recommend him.

[Ninjakitten]

The Christian Witch Gathering is a great site!
I also recommend ask_a_christian_witch Yahoo group. It's primarily there for people to ask questions of Christian witches and other Christians with pagan practices.

[LadyMoonDragon]

The Christian Witch Gathering is a great site!
I also recommend ask_a_christian_witch Yahoo group. It's primarily there for people to ask questions of Christian witches and other Christians with pagan practices.
WynterSings, I have recently started combing Catholicism with Wicca this past year. So far it is working out pretty well for me. I was raised Catholic growing up but was always interested in other religions as a child. I needed a faith that had elements of both Christianity and Paganism together because they both are dear to me. So Im blending them together as best I can. There are actually quite alot of people on this path both now in the present times in being and also in past times of history lol! I wish you the best of luck in finding the best path that is right for you...

Brightest Blessings,
LadyMoonDragon

[Moth]

I don't mean to be rude... D:

Main Entry: pa·gan
Pronunciation: 'pA-g&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin paganus, from Latin, civilian, country dweller, from pagus country district; akin to Latin pangere to fix -- more at PACT

One who is not Christian, Muslim, or a Jew; heathen

So you're a Chistian who's not a Christian? o_O;;

[WingedTigerChild]

That definition is inaccurate because it excludes the Bahá'í World Faith and includes religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism whose followers do not generally consider themselves 'pagan.' This is one reason why I prefer to capitalize 'Pagan,' as I think it distinguishes between the name given to non-Christians and non-Jews (and later non-Muslims) and the idea or 'path' of Paganism as we know it today.

To me, the term 'Christo-Pagan' is really just saying, "I'm a Christian who recognizes and accepts the 'pagan' or mystical roots of Christianity and I attempt to get back to those roots."

[LadyMoonDragon]

:fishtank: Hey WingedTigerChild I enjoyed your post! I think that Moth is a lil bit confused on what a ChristoPagan is lol! Personally for me my own defination that I use for myself is that I am part Christian and part Pagan to put it simply. Of course I am not the average Christian though lol! Im pretty liberal when it comes to politics so I don't fit in with the fundies hey...nor would I want to yuck! :achug:

Blessings,
LadyMoonDragon

[Athene]

Hope to see you around the Christian witch gathering (http://azure.bbboy.net/christianwitch) board.

We have a new workshop in June on Litha/St John the Baptist - you need to enrol.

see you there :)

[Autumn Thistlecrane]

I have recently became a Christo-Pagan, myself. Since a little girl, I have always been charmed and seduced by Nature's own beauty and aid. I wanted to become more involved with it. It is so much more and it does have it's magickal ways, indeed. I could not try to ignore that. But I also have such a strong faith in my Christian God and the personification Jesus Christ. God has proven Himself to me throughout my life, and I thank him for all he's given and done for me. So therefore, I refuse to abandon His existence and major role of my spiritual path.

Some say it's an oxymoron, others say it is impossible to achieve. So far, my ideals of it seem to be pretty valid and agreeable.

Like for example: A God/Goddess. To me, there is still only one God. I do not believe of Mary to take a Goddess' image because she isn't nor wasn't worshiped as one. But my God has both a male and female assets, and it is not hard for both to be distinguished. God can be everything there is, was, or will be and absolutely *more* since God creates all of it. Because who are we to honestly place a limit of an image or figure on what or who God is? It's incomprehensible. But as for the position of dieties to fill in possible blanks: The arch/angels. They lend their help to serve God's will, I recognize them, notice what they may stand for and symbolize, and ask them for additional help.

And to those who believe that the Bible condemns witches/witchcraft: It's all in the mis/interpretations. The meaning of a witch in the Bible may very well be different from the meaning of witch that we know today. I do not take the Bible's every word literally. They usually indicate a witch as someone who casts hexes and practices divination; a spiteful harlot, one who brings out harm through her practices. I am not nor do any of these. So I see no problem. I forgot who pointed this out, but: "God spit in the dirt and spread the mud on the eyes of a blind man, causing him to see." - That *does* sound pretty witchy to me. ;)

Spells and rituals can be done, too, no problem. I would prefer healing spells but am also willing to learn others for other purposes. God gave us these minerals, crystals, plants, etc. for good, beneficial reason other than looking pretty. We should be able to use them. Events which take place, especially with Catholicism and other Christian branches such as communion and prayer gatherings seem to be very similar to Wiccan/Pagan rituals. Only they go by different terms. They both have specific procedures and activation of energy being done.

Some will point out that we are sinless since Christ died to save us from them. Yet, that doesn't mean we get off free throughout our lives. We still sin and every single one of us are held responsible for our repeated disapproved actions and shall be punished for them, similar to the Wiccan Rede and it's threefold law.

So I infact do see similarites between Christianity and Paganism/Wicca that can be combined and blended harmoniously to suit an individuals spiritual needs for their own path. This is the one I've chosen, and it seems to be working out pretty well, too.

[azzeenasman]

I have recently became a Christo-Pagan, myself. Since a little girl, I have always been charmed and seduced by Nature's own beauty and aid. I wanted to become more involved with it. It is so much more and it does have it's magickal ways, indeed. I could not try to ignore that. But I also have such a strong faith in my Christian God and the personification Jesus Christ. God has proven Himself to me throughout my life, and I thank him for all he's given and done for me. So therefore, I refuse to abandon His existence and major role of my spiritual path.

Some say it's an oxymoron, others say it is impossible to achieve. So far, my ideals of it seem to be pretty valid and agreeable.

Like for example: A God/Goddess. To me, there is still only one God. I do not believe of Mary to take a Goddess' image because she isn't nor wasn't worshiped as one. But my God has both a male and female assets, and it is not hard for both to be distinguished. God can be everything there is, was, or will be and absolutely *more* since God creates all of it. Because who are we to honestly place a limit of an image or figure on what or who God is? It's incomprehensible. But as for the position of dieties to fill in possible blanks: The arch/angels. They lend their help to serve God's will, I recognize them, notice what they may stand for and symbolize, and ask them for additional help.

And to those who believe that the Bible condemns witches/witchcraft: It's all in the mis/interpretations. The meaning of a witch in the Bible may very well be different from the meaning of witch that we know today. I do not take the Bible's every word literally. They usually indicate a witch as someone who casts hexes and practices divination; a spiteful harlot, one who brings out harm through her practices. I am not nor do any of these. So I see no problem. I forgot who pointed this out, but: "God spit in the dirt and spread the mud on the eyes of a blind man, causing him to see." - That *does* sound pretty witchy to me. ;)

Spells and rituals can be done, too, no problem. I would prefer healing spells but am also willing to learn others for other purposes. God gave us these minerals, crystals, plants, etc. for good, beneficial reason other than looking pretty. We should be able to use them. Events which take place, especially with Catholicism and other Christian branches such as communion and prayer gatherings seem to be very similar to Wiccan/Pagan rituals. Only they go by different terms. They both have specific procedures and activation of energy being done.

Some will point out that we are sinless since Christ died to save us from them. Yet, that doesn't mean we get off free throughout our lives. We still sin and every single one of us are held responsible for our repeated disapproved actions and shall be punished for them, similar to the Wiccan Rede and it's threefold law.

So I infact do see similarites between Christianity and Paganism/Wicca that can be combined and blended harmoniously to suit an individuals spiritual needs for their own path. This is the one I've chosen, and it seems to be working out pretty well, too.
Yes,I know what you mean,I have read about a woman in the bible called wisdom,she is a tree of life to those who embrace her,and I never hear any churches preaching about her.Some may say she is really an it.But it doesnt say "it,the bible says"she,and it says she many times.So,I pray to this Goddess who sent me my kitty,and still pray to God.

[Autumn Thistlecrane]

That does sound very interesting! I never heard of her, either. Might figure, huh? That, and facing the fact that like half of the actual Bible's original Aramaic scriptures were lost when they translated it to Latin. So there might be important info we're missing out on. Luckily (hopefully) we have enough for it to act as some guide-book for our lives.

And I'm glad to learn of your kitten. That's wonderful. Mine, on the other hand, was born a stray. So I really wasn't surprised when he was so anxious and successful to return to the outdoors (which wasn't of my choosing.) But I am glad for you and your kitten's founder. :)

Blessed be.

[Athene]

I have read about a woman in the bible called wisdom,she is a tree of life to those who embrace her,and I never hear any churches preaching about her.Some may say she is really an it.But it doesnt say "it,the bible says"she,and it says she many times.

What you speak of is sophia. A Greek word that translates as wisdom. Wisdom is not a woman, but the terms used to refer to sophia are feminine.
We have to be careful how much we make language fit our needs. greek words ahev masculine and feminie endings,but do not necessarily refer to biological gender. in Spanish, table (mesa) is a feminine word, but that doesn't make the table a woman.

There is alos personaification and allegory used in the #bible and this doesn't mean that something was an actual entity.

This doesn't mean we can't use ideas or myth as actual deity if we choose. Just simply that we shouldn't twist scripture.
I do believe that ChristoPagans and ChristoWiccans can honour a goddess, or simply spiritual entity, called sophia if they wish. The Gnostics certainly did.

:)