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blackroseivy
February 12th, 2005, 09:49 PM
I've done my own simple little thing, of course, but I was wondering if there was anything more "official" out there... perhaps in Gaelic? Just wondering!

blackroseivy
February 19th, 2005, 05:33 PM
Guess not!!! :geez:

odubhain
February 19th, 2005, 10:25 PM
Guess not!!! :geez:
Perhaps an invocation to the gods comes from the heart and not so much in words?

Searles

odubhain
February 19th, 2005, 10:46 PM
I find that a simple question or a calling out of a name is sufficient, especially when used as a kind of mantra. If the invocation is done with the mind and spirit rather than with the voice, I've found it to be more powerful, yet the connection of spirit to spirit has always seemed to me to be through the heart.

Here's a short article I wrote about this:

Amrún

The first Amrún was held at Grellach Dollaid and it was called “Amrún Fer nDéa Grellaid nDollaid, “ (‘the Amrún of the Men of the Goddess’). Lugh, The Dagda, and Ogma were joined by Dian Cécht and Goibniu, as they chanted together, in secret, for ‘a year and a day.’ They called on Danu and Her Three Gods within their Magical chanting. It was in this way that they received the knowledge of the Three Gods of Danu. Gaining the Wisdom of Danu enabled them to prepare a battle plan, as well as to defeat the Fomorii at Cath Maige Tuired. An Amrún is clearly a Magical amrán (‘song’). It is conducted in secret (Run means ‘secret’ in Old Irish), and it is usually held within the Otherworld. Such chanting and singing of incantations to the gods was known to sometimes go on for days. This was a very important way to raise power among the Druids and Filidh.

Before I present any further theories and traditions of Druidic chanting, here are a few examples of such chantings that I use to harmonize and empower my own inner music:

To Raise Power:
“AAH-Noooo-DAAH-Noooo-VREEE-Jeeehh-DAAAK-Dahhhhh...”
(Anu, Danu, Brighid, Dagda)

To Receive Imbas:
“OHH-Maaahh-VREEE-Jeehh- sCAAH-Thaah-LOOoo...”
(Ogma, Brighid, Scathach, Lugh)

To Perform a Healing:
“JEE-ah-kehkt-MEEE-ah-kehkt-AWR-vith-UHK-rool
(Dian Cécht, Míach, Airmid, Octriull)

To Wage Battle:
“Mor-REE-gaan-NEEV-aann-MAHK-uuhhh-BOVH”
(Morrigan, Nemain, Macha, Badb )

To Ease a Passing:
“MAAN-aann-nann-KAAHWLL-yuch-TAAHWL-too-CROMM”
(Manannán, Cailleach, Tailtiu, Crom)

To Bless a Baptism:
“VrEEE-jeeh-BOHH-aann-BAANN-baah-BOO-aahh”
(Brighid, Bóann, Banba, Bua)

This list is not fixed and does not imply that these deity names are the only deities that are important to such workings. Each of you must choose your own pathway to the gods. I select chants based upon the imbas of the moment. Look within and chose for yourself. Please honor the gods of your people in the way that is best for you. When chanting the chosen words of power, we should also try to vibrate the god names within our mind/spirits and ourselves. This internal vibration of the name is much more important than the external sounds that are voiced. These rhythmic interweaving of sounds and form, build our energy levels, and allow us to become more aware of the presence of our chosen deities. Sometimes, I also chant words that symbolize the object (or focus) of the working, as well as calling out to the gods. I have found that a bodhran can be a very useful tool to use in drumming up power while chanting, and have even used pre-recorded music to set the mood for the required meditations. There are many, many ways that music can aid and center our ritual Magic. As previously noted, such uses of music to accompany chanting and ritual are age-old techniques that go across cultures and time.

Isaac has some suggestions on his site for ritual forms if that is what you are seeking:

http://www.neopagan.net/IB_Songs_WiccanRitual.html

http://www.neopagan.net/NeoDruidismRiteOutline.html

For older forms and invocations, these are the best that I know:

http://www.imbas.org/articles/excellence_of_the_ancient_word.html

Searles O'Dubhain

blackroseivy
February 20th, 2005, 06:58 AM
Wow, where have you been??? :D I'm so glad you turned up! I need a teacher, & it looks like I've found one at least as far as posts go! I'm very eager to learn. I only wish I could really learn Gaelic! :(
Ah well, maybe someday!

Actually, I guess "imbas" must mean "inspiration"...

Ron
February 20th, 2005, 11:14 AM
Perhaps an invocation to the gods comes from the heart and not so much in words?

Searles
I agree with this. I do not believe invocations should be shared between sects. I share mine with those who study with me, but they mainly use their own.

I do not endorse the Wicca renaissance in Pagan faiths - by that I mean the sharing of certain texts and their blind acceptance.

INVOCATION TO ZUBMAFOOIEDUDE
Gablyalskew khjaskek. Savjerk off your wiener.

LOL Anyone that adopts that invocation is an ass. _travolta_ I'm sorry that's just the sad truth. Any resemblance to an actual invocation or any non-ficitional presence is purely coincidental and not intended.

Let there be wisdom in your hearts and something other than rice in your brains.

blackroseivy
February 20th, 2005, 11:26 AM
I only wish I were lucky enough to be able to belong to an actual organization so that I could actually learn some of this...

Ladyvi
February 20th, 2005, 01:36 PM
honest speak. thats my invocation.

'hey need ya down here for a bit if you please' or ' we need to deal with this and here it is' or ' come on and join the party'

the dieities i think like a good time why not invite them. anyway. i know the 'words' are not formal or are of good diction or even good grammar. however it gets the job done. they do make their appearance and make themselves known.

blackroseivy
February 20th, 2005, 01:59 PM
Heee! I suppose it's all a matter of personal style... I'm trying to be a formal Druidess (I insist on the feminine) & I just wonder all about the ins & outs of the practice, as I'm making up mine as I go along & for Druidry it doesn't seem quite right...!

odubhain
February 20th, 2005, 02:00 PM
Wow, where have you been??? :D I'm so glad you turned up! I need a teacher, & it looks like I've found one at least as far as posts go! I'm very eager to learn. I only wish I could really learn Gaelic! :(
Ah well, maybe someday!

Actually, I guess "imbas" must mean "inspiration"...

Imbas is an Old Irish word which means "knowledge." It comes in three forms and one of those is imbas forosnai or knowledge that illuminates. It's closest Modern Irish equivalent is iomas or "illumination." If you want to begin learning Irish, I have a series of lessons on the Summerlands site from the Irish Times newspaper:

http://www.summerlands.com/crossroads/irish/gaelic.html

There's other sources that are probably better but these lessons are a start.

Let the entire world be your teacher. Learning is a paying attention type of activity that is open to all. I try it myself when I can focus. I've found that there are three ways to learn:

Paying attention
Being silent within
Being open to experience

There's millions of things to know and lots of time to know them (if not in this life, in another).

Searles

blackroseivy
February 20th, 2005, 07:23 PM
Wow, yeah, I have a hard time keeping that stuff in mind sometimes! I am very grateful for the link, I've been wishing for a free online source for some time now! When I have the energy to tackle it...

Myrddyn Emrys
February 20th, 2005, 08:33 PM
I've done my own simple little thing, of course, but I was wondering if there was anything more "official" out there... perhaps in Gaelic? Just wondering!
On this I will say it is on a personal level. You need to pu the words together that make it feel right for you. As to it in Gaelic? Sure, if you know Gaelic, use it. If not, well, don't. It's the meaning of what you say, not the language. It's best to come from you....

KellyP
February 20th, 2005, 10:20 PM
I can heartily recommend A Book of Pagan Prayer by Ceisiwr Serith. His book is broken into three main sections that explain how/why we pray, how different prayers are constructed, and a wonderful number of examples. Cei includes prayers from many different belief systems including Wiccan, Norse, and Celtic. Reading through his book may serve to inspire you and guide you in your efforts.

blackroseivy
February 21st, 2005, 03:08 PM
I can heartily recommend A Book of Pagan Prayer by Ceisiwr Serith. His book is broken into three main sections that explain how/why we pray, how different prayers are constructed, and a wonderful number of examples. Cei includes prayers from many different belief systems including Wiccan, Norse, and Celtic. Reading through his book may serve to inspire you and guide you in your efforts.

There we go, a book - just what I was looking for; THANX!!! :fpartay:

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
February 22nd, 2005, 04:05 PM
Again, I have to recommend the Carmina Gadelica. It's full of invocations and prayers. I also have a few links for both Gaelige (Irish) and Gaidhlig (Scots Gaelic) language lessons online if you are interested. While some people do think the language doesn't matter, I believe that the Gods would prefer, seeing as the Shining Ones are not just gods but also our ancestors, to hear the prayers and invocations in their own language. Not to mention that some things in the Gaelic can't be properly translated or expressed in English. There are layers of meaning that can only come across fully in the Gaelic as the Celts were masters of word-play.

blackroseivy
February 22nd, 2005, 04:52 PM
That would be so excellent! I've been interested in the Carmina Gadelica for a while now, I do need to find a copy. I sure would love to go to an online source for the language, thanx so much! :D

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
February 22nd, 2005, 11:02 PM
Here is the link for the Carmina Gadelica at amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0863155200/qid=1109130881/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-1034802-6008850?v=glance&s=books

Here are some language links. Not sure if you want Gaelige or Gaidhlig.

http://www.leyline.org/cra/languages/IrishPeople/index.html
http://www.candledark.net/silver/celtlang.html
http://www.taic.btinternet.co.uk/
http://collections.ic.gc.ca/gaelic/gaelicsite.htm
http://www.contemporarypoetry.com/brain/lang/index.htm
http://www.ceantar.org/Dicts/MB2/index.html (dictionary of Scots Gaelic)

blackroseivy
February 23rd, 2005, 06:41 PM
Thanx!! :D dI was after Irish Gaelic predominantly, I only wish I could learn all of them!! :reading:

Morgaine_cla
May 7th, 2005, 11:29 PM
In our ways, the work of invocation and evocation are different and they are used to different ends: Which would you do and why?

Myrddyn Emrys
May 8th, 2005, 07:22 PM
In our ways, the work of invocation and evocation are different and they are used to different ends: Which would you do and why?
It differs more to the individual thatn to the path...

blackroseivy
May 9th, 2005, 09:05 PM
I'd say that I Evoke more than INvoke.