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GoddessofWisdom
October 1st, 2001, 07:44 AM
Sunday, 30th September, 2001.
Witch Collapses During Macbeth Ritual
Disaster Strikes Effort to Lift the Curse of Macbeth
A ceremony to raise the spirit of Macbeth ended when one of the participants collapsed, reports Ananova. Kevin Carlyon's magical attempt to contact the spirit of former King of Scotland and subject of Shakespeare's famous tragedy ended when the psychic medium Eileen Webster collapsed after being overwhelmed by a strange power.
Carlyon had travelled to the Scottish Highlands intending to contact Macbeth and question him about the curse, but a series of accidents had caused several other Witches to cancel the trip. One believed that the death of her pet dog was an unlucky omen and refused to go, whilst another interpreted her cat bringing in a black feather as a sign to stay away. During filming of the ritual itself the cameraman fell ill and was later admitted to hospital.
The ritual took place at the scene of Inverness' old castle with Carlyon summoning the four elements and apparently letting off smoke bombs. The 'This is North Scotland' website reported that Carlyon used "industrial" smoke bombs. Amidst the swirling, acrid clouds Webster attempted to contact the spirit of the restless king.
"I sensed a great power that just drained away all my energy," she recalled later. "I remember feeling fear. I sensed a very, very evil spirit. I believe in this curse definitely now."
Before the ritual began she remembers being followed by a black crow, something she regards more ominously with hindsight.
"What happened here was totally out of the unexpected," said Carlyon. "There has been a strange series of mini disasters." But Carlyon concluded that the ritual had been effective. "We have reflected the curse," he said, but he confessed that he will not know whether they have been successful until "people start saying 'Macbeth' and putting on productions of the play." "We won't know," he said, "until people tell us."
Xander67
October 1st, 2001, 10:21 AM
This is sad.... IN Drama, whenever the play is put on, whenever someone mentions her name, bad things happen, this is more than just a coincidence, I have a feeling Shakespere's play, somehow comes with a curse written into it ... this just illustrates that although theater is a wonderful and refreshingly entertaining industry, it does indeed haa DARK
Xander67
October 1st, 2001, 10:29 AM
has a Dark side and you really have to be carefull when meddleing with those forces...
There is a wealth of wisdom veild within all of Shakespeare's works... someone sadly started a rumor wich said that Francis Bacon wrote his works and Shakespeare never existed....well if that is true, then why would there be a legend lingering about that a fictioinal person could have actually been trhe one who wrote, MOZART's Magic Flute???
People make me laugh at times...........
The Curse of Macbeth Is as real as her play,
but mabey one day someone will find a way to end the curse,
but then, that would not sit well at the box office...part of the fascination of the play is the fact it has a curse and sadly, but true enough it has helped spur ticket sales...
Xander
Illuminatus
October 1st, 2001, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Xander67
has a Dark side and you really have to be carefull when meddleing with those forces...
There is a wealth of wisdom veild within all of Shakespeare's works... someone sadly started a rumor wich said that Francis Bacon wrote his works and Shakespeare never existed....well if that is true, then why would there be a legend lingering about that a fictioinal person could have actually been trhe one who wrote, MOZART's Magic Flute???
People make me laugh at times...........
The Curse of Macbeth Is as real as her play,
but mabey one day someone will find a way to end the curse,
but then, that would not sit well at the box office...part of the fascination of the play is the fact it has a curse and sadly, but true enough it has helped spur ticket sales...
Xander
I think I speak for all of us when say that I don't understand a thing you just said! Wasn't Macbeth a dude, not a woman?
Xander67
October 1st, 2001, 05:14 PM
:eek: :eek:
I am a huge fan of the Shakes, LOL
but this one will just get filed away in the growing list of things that I thought I knew but then 20 years later found out was totally wrong...:rolleyes: heheh as a kid, I always thought MT Rushmore was in NY then when I was on break at work one night, they mentioned it on the news, and I said "When did they move it?"
well im not perfect but who cares guy or girl,
the curse is real LOL :P:P:P
flar7
October 2nd, 2001, 12:46 AM
you always hear of "Lady MacBeth"
Xander67
October 2nd, 2001, 01:27 AM
I knew I wasn't going crazy !!!
I thought it was a lady also
Ill, you trying to confuse me??? LOL:eek:
gunner
October 2nd, 2001, 04:14 AM
"lady macbeth" was a character in the scottish play but not the one the play was named after.
Myst
October 2nd, 2001, 04:15 AM
Actually it's about a MAN called Macbeth and his journey; Lady Macbeth is his wife and she ends up killing herself.
Didn't you guys learn this in highschool?
Maybe this will help - http://library.thinkquest.org/2888/
gunner
October 2nd, 2001, 04:46 AM
thanks willow, i couldn't remember off hand if she was his wife or mother.
Xander67
October 2nd, 2001, 06:51 AM
:rolleyes:
thank you Willow :p :p :T
Xois
October 2nd, 2001, 06:55 AM
Actually, according to the dates provided by shakespear -- the play is only LOOSLEY based on MacBeth...very loosly
Lady MacBeth might well have been cursed too! :) It can be argued that without Lady MacBeth, Macbeth would NEVER have made the grab at power that he does in the play! Perhaps it IS her play...
Its only Called MacBeth after all! :)
Xander67
October 2nd, 2001, 07:25 AM
;) :p :)
Illuminatus
October 2nd, 2001, 11:02 AM
But the play focused on the DUDE Macbeth... he was the one that was in league with the witches I think... either way, I do remember that it was Lord Macbeth who had the prophecy that he could not be slain by "any man of woman born"... But at the end of the play, his rival Macduff, who was not born but "untimely ripped from his mother's womb" ends up killing him. hee hee, victory by technicality, gotta love it!
On a side note, my sister and I were both "untimely ripped" as well, good thing to remember if I ever want to kill the king of Scotland!
- Ill
Maggie
October 2nd, 2001, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Willow Raven
Actually it's about a MAN called Macbeth and his journey; Lady Macbeth is his wife and she ends up killing herself.
Didn't you guys learn this in highschool?
Maybe this will help - http://library.thinkquest.org/2888/
Actually, I've often wondered if it isn't MacBeth's ghost haunting that play. Shakespeare played fast and loose with history--King MacBeth of Scotland was actually a rather good king with a stable reign for quite a few years. In fact--it was so stable MacBeth was able to leave Scotland itself long enough to go to Rome and allegedly bring back the Grail................
Regards,
Maggie
magdelena
September 3rd, 2003, 10:10 PM
Hrm. I never read about him going to retrieve the Grail, but I do know that Macbeth indeed went on a pilgrimage to Rome with his wife.
Valnorran
September 3rd, 2003, 10:26 PM
Too bad the curse didn't take out Carlyon...
MoonRaven
September 3rd, 2003, 10:47 PM
I dunno... I'm kind of suspicious about this one (as I am of all things Kevvy-boy does). Personally, smoke bombs would make me collapse in a second, but maybe I just have weak lungs.
LittleRhiannon
September 13th, 2003, 10:41 AM
Well the curse *could* originate from Lady Macbeth, as she was the one who called demons into herself and pressured Macbeth into doing the first killing
Tess
September 13th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Too bad the curse didn't take out Carlyon...
:lol: :thumbsup:
Adam Of Avalon
September 13th, 2003, 01:24 PM
Pagan theater folks... when will we learn?
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