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LadyTrinity
February 15th, 2005, 04:05 PM
Which are you in tune with?

Shanti
February 15th, 2005, 04:11 PM
Both!

Aleigh
February 15th, 2005, 04:12 PM
I'm not convinced that they're not just different levels of the same thing. :)

MoonDragn
February 15th, 2005, 04:32 PM
I believe they are the same thing.

soilsigh aingeal
February 15th, 2005, 04:46 PM
I think they're pretty much the same.

charmedkisses1
February 15th, 2005, 04:55 PM
I don't think they're the same... Intuition is a feeling, an instinct, I always felt like the other had visions or dreams or some message on a higher level than "just knowing".

MoonDragn
February 15th, 2005, 05:00 PM
Well, I think on some level, psychic ability is just built in instincts. The senses that we don't use conciously but are still there on an instinctive level.

Shanti
February 15th, 2005, 05:03 PM
I have a different take on the two.
For me they are very different.

Intuition is just a feeling, 'from my own gut', from 'inside me'. Its not even a thought really, just a gut feeling.

Now a psychic event is a knowing and a seeing.
A psychic event comes 'too' me, not from inside my gut.
A psychic event is not feeling but seeing it 'in the mind'. In fact it carries no feeling, just images.

So to sum it up:
Intuition, feeling from the gut.
Psychic, image in the mind.

So thats how the 2 are for me. :)

SylverStar
February 15th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Intuition for me.

arctic splash
February 15th, 2005, 07:54 PM
I don't think they're the same... Intuition is a feeling, an instinct, I always felt like the other had visions or dreams or some message on a higher level than "just knowing".

Dreams and visions (clairvoyance) is just one way of experiencing the psychic realm. The feeling of "just knowing" but not knowing how you know is something is how many psychics get their information. It's called claircognizance and is just as psychic as clairvoyance. There is also clairsentience, "clear feeling," which is what most people call intuition... having an inner feeling about something.

There's nothing "higher" or "deeper" about visions compared to feelings or senses of "just knowing." It's just a different way of receiving information. Just like some people are visual learners while others learn by hearing and some people learn best by finding a way to become emotionally attached to what they're learning... no way is better than the others... they're just different. Not everyone is a visual learner or is good at picking up information visually. To deny that to me seems like denying that there are different types of people... there are different types of psychics.

Maybe you feel more *comfortable* with a vision over a "knowing," but when a mother just knows that something bad has happened to her child, or just gets a horrible feeling about it, that's psychic. When you just get a hunch that someone you haven't heard from in a long time is going to call you, and they do, that's psychic. Just because it comes from your gut or it comes in the form of "just knowing" doesn't mean it's not coming from outside you.

LadyTrinity
February 15th, 2005, 09:41 PM
I believe I am intuitive.. Not pyschic.. I cannot tell a cop where a person may be buried.. I cannot guess next weeks lotto ticket numbers.. but I can sense when a car might be going too fast and I shouldnt cross the street at that time.. or when someone will be knocking at the door when I dont expect any company. :smile:

arctic splash
February 15th, 2005, 10:35 PM
Not pyschic.. I cannot tell a cop where a person may be buried.. I cannot guess next weeks lotto ticket numbers..

If that's how you define psychic, though, then there are very few of them... and by that definition I'm not sure if there are any.

You don't think sensing that someone will knock on your door is a psychic experience? (What do you think it is that tells you someone will knock? Telepathy? Precognizance? You don't think those are psychic experiences? Why not?)

I think all psychic experiences are intuitive. Sometimes we have a gut feeling about someone or feel pushed to do something and it's not necessarily psychic but intuitive (like common sense, crossing the street at the right time -- that's not psychic, but does involve intuition).. But when you just have a sense that someone will call, or dream about something there's no way you could have guessed would happen... I just don't get why that's not psychic. :)

Dragon_Lady_of_Air
February 15th, 2005, 10:40 PM
I agree with shanti. Though I still don't get much of either. The intuition only comes occasionally. And onnly ever had one psychic experience. So I guess I am on the low end of the scale for both. But, to me seeing everything before it happens wouldn't be so great. Dragon Lady of Water once told me that is takes all the fun out of things. That surprises for everyone else that come from her arn't really surprises for her since she knows whats either going to happen or needs to happen for that person.

Though it would be nice to know some things in advance.

arctic splash
February 15th, 2005, 10:46 PM
I agree with Shanti, in general, except for one thing:

Just because it's a gut feeling, doesn't mean the source of that feeling necessarily originated inside you.

What's the *basis* for assuming that an image in the mind can come from the outside but a feeling in the gut cannot? I'd like to hear your reasons... that's something I strongly disagree with.

Dragon_Lady_of_Air
February 15th, 2005, 10:57 PM
I think the thing in the gut though you asked ashanti, is that we feel it stronger there, and that is deep inside. Or maybe that we don't have the ability withing ourselves to belive that we can get spychic impressions without an outside source. Though all the studying and everythign everone does, says the Goddess and God are in us. We have a higher self. SO is it our higher self or a higher being. or does one run the gut and the other run the mind.

LadyTrinity
February 15th, 2005, 11:13 PM
No its not fun at all.. There were times where a family member was happy to suprize me with a gift but I knew I was going to get a gift so it wasnt much of a suprize it was " Just a feeling" That kinda ruins the momment. :razz:

Shanti
February 15th, 2005, 11:18 PM
I agree with Shanti, in general, except for one thing:

Just because it's a gut feeling, doesn't mean the source of that feeling necessarily originated inside you.

What's the *basis* for assuming that an image in the mind can come from the outside but a feeling in the gut cannot? I'd like to hear your reasons... that's something I strongly disagree with.
Umm I am just saying how it is for me, not anyone else. I started my post with, " 'for me' they are very different".

Intuition, I feel it from within myself, my spirit.
Psychic events, feel to me to be from outside my own spirit.

Its just the way I feel and what I know about my experiences, there really isnt any disagree or agree. Its just how it is for me and me only. OK? :)

arctic splash
February 16th, 2005, 12:05 AM
Its just the way I feel and what I know about my experiences, there really isnt any disagree or agree. Its just how it is for me and me only. OK?

Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that I thought your opinion was wrong. I just didn't understand it, and would have liked to hear your reasons, if it was possible for you to express them. I think it could make a great discussion about the difference between mind and body/emotion.

When I said I disagreed I simply meant that my feelings, beliefs, and experiences seem to differ with yours. I was not insinuating "I think I'm right and you're wrong." You're right too. :)

arctic splash
February 16th, 2005, 12:14 AM
I think the thing in the gut though you asked ashanti, is that we feel it stronger there, and that is deep inside.

I think I understand. Even though I believe most of my thoughts do originate inside me, in my unconscious, I don't feel a connection with my unconscious, because I don't really know it.

We feel a deeper connection with our gut feelings. When you ask people who they are, they tend to think who associate themselves more with their feelings, rather than in their subconscious/unconscious mind. Feelings are more concrete than thoughts.


Though all the studying and everythign everone does, says the Goddess and God are in us.

That's why I find it hard to make the distinction between inside and outside impressions. If we are one with the Divine, and that Oneness transcends time and space, then what is outside of us is also inside.

Shanti
February 16th, 2005, 12:14 AM
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that I thought your opinion was wrong. I just didn't understand it, and would have liked to hear your reasons, if it was possible for you to express them. I think it could make a great discussion about the difference between mind and body/emotion.
Oh Ok, all good!! :)

I dont know how to explain it. My intuition I can just feel is me.

When I have physic visions, they are unattached to my personal side of me. Hard to explain,,,, not of my thoughts, not my way of thinking. They put themselves in my mind whether I like it or not, when ever they wish too. Theres no feeling to them, just info.

One is feeling, the other info. I just 'feel' one is from within and the other from with out. One feels like me the other like a stranger.

Thats about the best I can do for explaining. :)

Xander67
February 16th, 2005, 12:20 AM
Intuiton is that hunch, that thought, that "you just know" that comes to you from that small voice within you.

I believe that when you tap into your intuition, you are accessing your subconcious mind, which is connected to the universal subconcious mind.. and that mind is where every thought comes from.
I don't believe that it is US that creates thougts, rather it is the Universal Subconcious mind that transmits them to us...

Wintersteel
February 16th, 2005, 04:15 AM
Same thing.. psychic is just intuition with a little more awareness.. I believe, every one is intuitive.. but psychics tend to be more sensitive.. :woah:

MoonDragn
February 16th, 2005, 10:22 AM
Well it is called the 6th sense, because its a sense outside of our 5 senses. I think all animals have this sense and we humans are not any different. They did a show on this horse that could do math but it turns out the horse was psychic and reading his master's mind!

I believe we all have the god/goddess inside of us. Since it is inside of everything around us, we can communicate to everything around us on some subconcious level. This explains almost all of the psychic abilities except precognition. I think for that skill its like the human mind can calculate possibilities somehow.

BabblingImp
February 16th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Intuitive, I believe, Although I have had times were I could tell who was going to call before the phone rang! But normaly I can tell what someones mood is before I go into the room or see them up close, and I almost always know when someone is lieing to me! :eyez: