Reiki - learning through...

[RavensEye]

There are a lot of web sites that offer free lessons via their web sites, due to the fact some people think charging for lessons is wrong. over the years I have found sites that I think are great, but what I want to know is would you rather learn from some one traiend in Reiki thorugh a web site or in person?

[MoonDragn]

I personally wouldn't. I feel that Reiki is more about learning to be attuned to that energy. You can't just be attuned learning the stupid symbols. Which are really funky mangled versions of chinese that has no meaning whatsoever really. So what else can you learn from a website?

[RavensEye]

Ah it is Japnese and I personally do not think they are stupid, I will have to dig up the web sites and I will post them.

[moonstone_dreams]

By lessons do you mean distance attunements? Attunements I'd rather have in person. Lessons... well both... there are some great techniques and things online. But if you don't get an attunement, the lessons are pretty useless.

I like being able to ask questions and interacting with my teacher (and other students, if there are any). When you do it in person, you have someone to practice with. Not that anyone needs "practice" to do Reiki for any reason other than building confidence -- it just helps you feel less silly drawing symbols in the air!

Also, after my first attunement, it was so unreal for me, so special, I didn't quite believe it right away. Had I gotten a distance attunement, I think I would have been even more doubting -- it would have seemed even less real.

[KEishin]

Yes, the majority of the symbols are Japanese, although there are a few that are Sanskrit.

They came about because Usui found his students needed them to focus their minds. They thought using a symbol helped to make the energy flow. Hence, now we have symbols.

I'vre never found "the true and correct". I know several versions of each, and I use whatever version seems right at the time. My guides have repeatedly told me when I fret about symbols, "don't worry, we fix!"

[MoonDragn]

Ah it is Japnese and I p[ersonally do not think they are stupid, I will have to dig up the web sites and I will post them.

Its not Japanese. Those are not real words. However they are closes to Kanji which is Japanese word for Chinese Word.

[moonstone_dreams]

You can't just be attuned learning the stupid symbols. Which are really funky mangled versions of chinese that has no meaning whatsoever really.

Right, learning symbols is not the same as learning Reiki.

The HSZSN symbol is Japanese... or it's supposed to be... but there are actually many versions of it because it's so complicated. The one I was attuned to is not the same as the one my teacher was originally given! Non-Japanese people changed it until it didn't look like real Japanese anymore.

In the end it doesn't matter if it's Japanese or not, it's just a symbol... In Shamballa the older HSZSN symbol is being replaced by Zonar (also a Karuna Reiki symbol)... which is not supposed to be Japanese.

[MoonDragn]

Some of it is Japanese Kanji, which I can read. But some of it is not anything at all. Like totally made up.

I am talking about the original symbols. Some of the symbols are different words mashed together.

[moonstone_dreams]

Really? And Dr. Usui was Japanese, hmmm...

Wait... Usui himself didn't use symbols at all, did he? Who was the first to use symbols... and did that person know Japanese?

[RavensEye]

I was talking about online classes or courses you can learn online. some of them have ebooks and that as aprt of the classes, others have the material right their on thier site.

I am still looking thourgh my book marks for the site I was talking about that has the mateiral and symbols and such in the site, as for the other stuff you can always goggle search and see what other type of things are out there.

[MoonDragn]

Really? And Dr. Usui was Japanese, hmmm...

Wait... Usui himself didn't use symbols at all, did he? Who was the first to use symbols... and did that person know Japanese?


The symbols came to him on top of that mountain. They aren't meant to be real words.

Japanese language though consists largely of chinese characters with 2 sets of japanese alphabets.

[moonstone_dreams]

Who knows what happened to him on that mountain... there are so many stories....

Maybe Usui did recieve the symbols. I think what I was thinking of... is that Usui didn't teach the symbols to his students (only very few of them). Most of them just learned to connect with the energy directly. At least that's what I've heard.

I've also heard that he didn't call it Reiki but Usui Teate (Usui hand-touch method).

[MoonDragn]

hmmm don't know which version you read. I read that he went there for a few days, and was starving to death or something. Then on the last day he got the symbols and went into some kind of trance. They found him like that.

He was so changed he came back and started a school and yes taught them all the original symbols. I heard some people supposidly channeled more symbols. But his original set was taught to his students at master level.

[moonstone_dreams]

I've read a few versions. In the one I'm most familiar with, he went up there to fast, hoping to receive insight on healing, and was about to give up when on the 21st day it came to him. He came down from the mountain and ordered a big meal despite warnings that it wasn't good after a fast. The owner's daughter had lost her tooth or something, and was hurting, and he placed his hands over her, and she was better. The owner gave him the meal for free in exchange (the beginning of the 'exchange' thing).

But his original set was taught to his students at master level.

Right. But he only attuned a few (three or four) students to that level.

[Niamh celtic mist]

I was attuned long distance and I can only state from my experience that it was amazing...I don't see any difference in receiving your attunements long distance or receiving a healing long distance..it works on the same principle...I believe its what you are open to...Reiki knows no time or distance limits..I believe some people may need a hands on teacher/attunement experience...just like some can't learn online..but again it is the limit of the individual..not the Reiki...