Tabbykitty
February 25th, 2005, 02:07 AM
Hi Rick and Everyone else here,
Rick: I know ya like stories about Pete, S, N and the others.... here's one involving the psychic/mystic group I attend.
Everyone: I know this sounds a bit like it should be in the divination section, but because of the magic ritual Im gonna mention in this thread, I'll put it here.
There is this guy who attends our group, he is one of the older ones and is a jack of all trades who knows just about every odd occult fact under the sun as well as many practicioners of magick. Although he doesnt look like the sort, a lot of what he says does make sense in a rather odd and crazy way. Well, for the sake of convience, lets call him Gareth the Occultist.
Well, this story isn't really about Gareth, its more about the past life readings I did for two people, Margret and a guy I'll call Wendell the Were. However, I thought I would just do the introductions first so that there wont be any break in this thread.
Sometime after Gareth showed me my own clairvoyant abilities, I learned how to do a kinda of reading where I look at the soul of the person I am reading and let the person know things about himself. Some things that MAY be revealed include, past life connections, spirit guides, entities, gifts and sometimes, origins.
Incidently, if the person had non-human incarnations, it will also show up in the reading. I call this "The Shape of the Soul" reading. :D Yeah, yeah its a corny name, but it gives me data on the person's soul.
Anyways due to either my luck or karma, I happen to know quite a lot of Otherkin, people who believe they have past lives as something other than human. And in particular I know A LOT of weres. Now, two people had come to me for readings on the "shape of their soul" I guess they wanted affirmation that they were weres. I took a quick look at both and well, I knew the answer straightaway.... :( :P ..... well you can tell by the smileys what the answer was.
Well, Margret was up first. I actually asked her if she REALLY wanted to know. Cos I was SURE something bad was going to come out of it. She said she did. I said... as I always say before any reading: "REmember, there is NO PROOF, NO PROOF at all.. soo feel free to disagree."
Well, Margret believed she was in the past, a were-dino. I scratched my head and said...
"Okay man, let's take a look" Actually, in terms of latent potential and energy wise, Margret had a VERY VERY GOOD reading....... for a human...... and that was what I told her she was..... human.... 100%..... she was NEVER NEVER EVER a were-dino.
Erm, despite the excellent reading, Margaret was downcast and very upset, I said to her, look man, you got a reptile totem animal, so that's great, right? Well, Margret wasn't consoled. She was soooooo disturbed that she kept pestering me about it. I again stated to her, "Feel free to disbelieve..... remember.... NO PROOF....."
Well, no matter what her friends said to her about believing in herself and having enough confidence in who she was, Margaret was simply unable to say say, "Yeah, well, I FEEL I am a dino and that's that."
Well, even though its a lie, but hey, whatever rocks her boat.
Here's where Gareth comes into the picture. Gareth heard about the "plight" of Margaret and decided well... he would help. Now, he dug out a spell from Tobin's Spirit Guide, which would transform said person's inner self into whatever the person wants. I think at that point in time, Pete the mage and the others were looking at Gareth like he was crazy or something. Gareth assured them that everything would be fine cos he would personally channel er..... a dino spirit to aid in the transformation.
Gareth asked Margaret if being a dino in spirit was the true desire of her heart. She said yes.
We were all feeling really uncomfortable and the group got two really muscle-bound guys to sit down beside Gareth in case he decided to lunge at Margaret while channelling the critter. Well, there was a proper ceremony as instructed by Tobin's, and the dino spirit came through. Gareth started talking in this really raspy voice, very unlike himself. There was a conversation between it/him and Margaret for him where he asked her if that was what she truly wanted. She said yes..... (welll.... my eyebrows were twitching at that point)
Well the dino spirit instructed her as to what she was to do to achieve her goals and then it left and after a few more random spirits, the ceremony was over. The actual transformation took place over a few days. And after the prescribed period, I did a quiet reading of Margaret.
Well, she was STILL HUMAN, but there were these appendages, a frill, a tail a dino head that were clearly thoughtform creations that were generated as a result of the spell. I was like.... "Okay mannnnn... watever....." I guess if Margaret is happy wearing a thoughtform mask, its all cool right? :P
For those interested in magick ritual. The Tobin's spell didnt work not because it wasn't authentic, but because of Margaret herself. Basically, in order for the spell to really work, it needed the one thing Margaret COULD NOT provide. I wont say what it is, but I guess veterens of ceremonial magick and readers of Dion Fortune's books on initiation will know what I am talking about.
Well, Margaret left our group some time later.
Now, despite what happened to Margaret, there are still people coming up to me to ask me about their own souls. Well, I have seen people who truly had non-human past lives and that was okay...... and then..... came Wendell.
Wendell believed that he was... well... a wolf.... thingy. Knowing that Wendell was made of much sterner stuff than Margaret, I told him straight off that he was well..... HUMAN.... but a human wearing a thoughtform mask. Well, Wendell is a very very gifted psyhic and luckily for all of us, he had a happy disposition and he took my reading as is. He himself admitted that he saw himself as a man with a wolf head, like anubis. And he STILL went around saying that ... "hey I am were!" :)
I didn't object. Hey, at least he liked who he was. However, there were some things about Wendell that suggested to me that he was more than what he seemed. One of those things I sensed from him was that he DID NOT have a human past life. In fact, he DID NOT have a past life at all! A tibetan lama even came around to our place looking for him, but strangely enough Wendell wasnt around.
I tried figuring out the enigma that was Wendell. And one day I hit the jackpot. I saw a few interesting things about Wendell's past, before he was born, who and where he was and I told him what I saw. It struck him like a huge thunderbolt. They were things he had NEVER EVER told anyone!
I said to him: "Look man.... even the lama sayz you don't have a past life..... that means you can't be were..... why dont just give it up..... find out who you really are."
Happily, either because of karma, fate or cos Wendell was wiser than he looked, Wendell gave up the idea of his "wereness" and decided to find out who he was. In the end, he discovered that his story and who he was was far far greater and bigger than just being were or non-human or whatever.
See, Wendell was born with a mission. And because of that mission, he was given every single psychic abiltiy known to man, except one. (I say "given" cos they really were gifts to help him help others) And all this would have remained hidden from him so long as he wanted to hold on to a certain notion of who he was.
I know this sounds rather weird, but since Wendell discovered this strange fact, he now understands what he has to do and has found his life's calling. Which was good for him because he spent A LOT of time wandering aimlessly through life. Well, now he has no excuse.... heh. I hope he makes the best use of the gifts he has been given.
Sigh. The problem with these readings is that more often than not, I get people who go "NOOOOOOOOO! Its not true!" rather than Wendell-like cases. This happens no matter whether the person is allegedly Otherkin or not. A lot of times, I get young men and women who want to hear from me that they are somehow special.... when I tell them, hey, you are a perfectly ordinary person with a perfectly ordinary past life record, they fume and fuss and keep asking me to re-read them.
Oddly enough, no one ever said that I was a fraud. I don't understand it. If you don't like the reading, dont believe it. Plain and simple.
Regarding the Otherkin phenomenon, once asked a fellow psychic what he thought of it. He said something very commonsensical, "Well... so what if you were a wolf, tiger, cat, dragon, elf, pixie... etc...... in your past life... you are HUMAN ... H U M A N... now in THIS LIFE. So learn to make the best of it and live out your karmic lesson or ascend and transcend the world. Don't dwell on past things that don't fit your current paradigm."
Well.... that made a lot of sense to me. Cos when I was able to do past life readings ... the one thing I discovered about myself was that.... I was AN ELF. Yep, an E L F..... but I don't care two figs about that life unless it has karmic lessons for me to learn. Instead, I am looking forward to the next stage in my spiritual evolution. :D :floating: _happydanc :smile:
Rick: I know ya like stories about Pete, S, N and the others.... here's one involving the psychic/mystic group I attend.
Everyone: I know this sounds a bit like it should be in the divination section, but because of the magic ritual Im gonna mention in this thread, I'll put it here.
There is this guy who attends our group, he is one of the older ones and is a jack of all trades who knows just about every odd occult fact under the sun as well as many practicioners of magick. Although he doesnt look like the sort, a lot of what he says does make sense in a rather odd and crazy way. Well, for the sake of convience, lets call him Gareth the Occultist.
Well, this story isn't really about Gareth, its more about the past life readings I did for two people, Margret and a guy I'll call Wendell the Were. However, I thought I would just do the introductions first so that there wont be any break in this thread.
Sometime after Gareth showed me my own clairvoyant abilities, I learned how to do a kinda of reading where I look at the soul of the person I am reading and let the person know things about himself. Some things that MAY be revealed include, past life connections, spirit guides, entities, gifts and sometimes, origins.
Incidently, if the person had non-human incarnations, it will also show up in the reading. I call this "The Shape of the Soul" reading. :D Yeah, yeah its a corny name, but it gives me data on the person's soul.
Anyways due to either my luck or karma, I happen to know quite a lot of Otherkin, people who believe they have past lives as something other than human. And in particular I know A LOT of weres. Now, two people had come to me for readings on the "shape of their soul" I guess they wanted affirmation that they were weres. I took a quick look at both and well, I knew the answer straightaway.... :( :P ..... well you can tell by the smileys what the answer was.
Well, Margret was up first. I actually asked her if she REALLY wanted to know. Cos I was SURE something bad was going to come out of it. She said she did. I said... as I always say before any reading: "REmember, there is NO PROOF, NO PROOF at all.. soo feel free to disagree."
Well, Margret believed she was in the past, a were-dino. I scratched my head and said...
"Okay man, let's take a look" Actually, in terms of latent potential and energy wise, Margret had a VERY VERY GOOD reading....... for a human...... and that was what I told her she was..... human.... 100%..... she was NEVER NEVER EVER a were-dino.
Erm, despite the excellent reading, Margaret was downcast and very upset, I said to her, look man, you got a reptile totem animal, so that's great, right? Well, Margret wasn't consoled. She was soooooo disturbed that she kept pestering me about it. I again stated to her, "Feel free to disbelieve..... remember.... NO PROOF....."
Well, no matter what her friends said to her about believing in herself and having enough confidence in who she was, Margaret was simply unable to say say, "Yeah, well, I FEEL I am a dino and that's that."
Well, even though its a lie, but hey, whatever rocks her boat.
Here's where Gareth comes into the picture. Gareth heard about the "plight" of Margaret and decided well... he would help. Now, he dug out a spell from Tobin's Spirit Guide, which would transform said person's inner self into whatever the person wants. I think at that point in time, Pete the mage and the others were looking at Gareth like he was crazy or something. Gareth assured them that everything would be fine cos he would personally channel er..... a dino spirit to aid in the transformation.
Gareth asked Margaret if being a dino in spirit was the true desire of her heart. She said yes.
We were all feeling really uncomfortable and the group got two really muscle-bound guys to sit down beside Gareth in case he decided to lunge at Margaret while channelling the critter. Well, there was a proper ceremony as instructed by Tobin's, and the dino spirit came through. Gareth started talking in this really raspy voice, very unlike himself. There was a conversation between it/him and Margaret for him where he asked her if that was what she truly wanted. She said yes..... (welll.... my eyebrows were twitching at that point)
Well the dino spirit instructed her as to what she was to do to achieve her goals and then it left and after a few more random spirits, the ceremony was over. The actual transformation took place over a few days. And after the prescribed period, I did a quiet reading of Margaret.
Well, she was STILL HUMAN, but there were these appendages, a frill, a tail a dino head that were clearly thoughtform creations that were generated as a result of the spell. I was like.... "Okay mannnnn... watever....." I guess if Margaret is happy wearing a thoughtform mask, its all cool right? :P
For those interested in magick ritual. The Tobin's spell didnt work not because it wasn't authentic, but because of Margaret herself. Basically, in order for the spell to really work, it needed the one thing Margaret COULD NOT provide. I wont say what it is, but I guess veterens of ceremonial magick and readers of Dion Fortune's books on initiation will know what I am talking about.
Well, Margaret left our group some time later.
Now, despite what happened to Margaret, there are still people coming up to me to ask me about their own souls. Well, I have seen people who truly had non-human past lives and that was okay...... and then..... came Wendell.
Wendell believed that he was... well... a wolf.... thingy. Knowing that Wendell was made of much sterner stuff than Margaret, I told him straight off that he was well..... HUMAN.... but a human wearing a thoughtform mask. Well, Wendell is a very very gifted psyhic and luckily for all of us, he had a happy disposition and he took my reading as is. He himself admitted that he saw himself as a man with a wolf head, like anubis. And he STILL went around saying that ... "hey I am were!" :)
I didn't object. Hey, at least he liked who he was. However, there were some things about Wendell that suggested to me that he was more than what he seemed. One of those things I sensed from him was that he DID NOT have a human past life. In fact, he DID NOT have a past life at all! A tibetan lama even came around to our place looking for him, but strangely enough Wendell wasnt around.
I tried figuring out the enigma that was Wendell. And one day I hit the jackpot. I saw a few interesting things about Wendell's past, before he was born, who and where he was and I told him what I saw. It struck him like a huge thunderbolt. They were things he had NEVER EVER told anyone!
I said to him: "Look man.... even the lama sayz you don't have a past life..... that means you can't be were..... why dont just give it up..... find out who you really are."
Happily, either because of karma, fate or cos Wendell was wiser than he looked, Wendell gave up the idea of his "wereness" and decided to find out who he was. In the end, he discovered that his story and who he was was far far greater and bigger than just being were or non-human or whatever.
See, Wendell was born with a mission. And because of that mission, he was given every single psychic abiltiy known to man, except one. (I say "given" cos they really were gifts to help him help others) And all this would have remained hidden from him so long as he wanted to hold on to a certain notion of who he was.
I know this sounds rather weird, but since Wendell discovered this strange fact, he now understands what he has to do and has found his life's calling. Which was good for him because he spent A LOT of time wandering aimlessly through life. Well, now he has no excuse.... heh. I hope he makes the best use of the gifts he has been given.
Sigh. The problem with these readings is that more often than not, I get people who go "NOOOOOOOOO! Its not true!" rather than Wendell-like cases. This happens no matter whether the person is allegedly Otherkin or not. A lot of times, I get young men and women who want to hear from me that they are somehow special.... when I tell them, hey, you are a perfectly ordinary person with a perfectly ordinary past life record, they fume and fuss and keep asking me to re-read them.
Oddly enough, no one ever said that I was a fraud. I don't understand it. If you don't like the reading, dont believe it. Plain and simple.
Regarding the Otherkin phenomenon, once asked a fellow psychic what he thought of it. He said something very commonsensical, "Well... so what if you were a wolf, tiger, cat, dragon, elf, pixie... etc...... in your past life... you are HUMAN ... H U M A N... now in THIS LIFE. So learn to make the best of it and live out your karmic lesson or ascend and transcend the world. Don't dwell on past things that don't fit your current paradigm."
Well.... that made a lot of sense to me. Cos when I was able to do past life readings ... the one thing I discovered about myself was that.... I was AN ELF. Yep, an E L F..... but I don't care two figs about that life unless it has karmic lessons for me to learn. Instead, I am looking forward to the next stage in my spiritual evolution. :D :floating: _happydanc :smile: