Yay! I had a snappy comeback, for once!

[RowanMegaera]

Okay, I usually don't wear my pentacle anymore, I just wear a triple moon or a goddess pendant of some sort, but for some reason today I put one on before heading off to school. (finally getting my degree ten years after I flunked out the first time)

There I am sitting in the union minding my own business between classes and this schmuck comes prancing up to me in his W.W.J.D. t-shirt with a big grin on his face, I look up and smile waiting for the inevitable invitation to the bible study group which I will of course politely decline but NO!

He very snerkily asks, "Shouldn't you be sacrificing babies somewhere?"

Amazingly enough, without missing a beat I replied, "Shouldn't you be nailed to a cross somewhere?"

It usually takes me a good couple of hours to think of a comeback in any situation like this, but I just tossed that one out there with no effort. I was pretty dang proud of myself. I am just not an in your face type of person, today in fact I thought I was pretty inconspicuous, I was wearing a white silk sweater set and jeans, not exactly screaming "Hey I'm a Witch!"

Just had to share my small victory!

Rowan

[semi]

Good comeback.

[WitchJezebel]

Good for you!

[Pure Ahimsa]

Heh, I like that.

[XanderAmon]

:lol:

It's the small victories in life that you cherish. :)

[fay]

lol.
i luv it when people who try to to be smart have it come back to them. well done

[malice]

i know this has nothing to do with your comeback, but speaking of necklaces, i used to have the most beautiful one that stars and a huge crescent moon on it, made out of carved wood and wooden beads. but i lost it! i miss it so much. i used to wear it every day, it was like a part of me.now i just wear a pentacle.

[Black RiverWolf]

oh i love it.

[Keroberos]

that's fantastic, good for you, it's so sad that people have to be like that

[Rhianna813]

Great comeback! I am at working reading this and really actually did laugh out loud. People are now staring at me. See what you did? hehehehe

Rhianna

[Rhaevyn]

LMAO! Good one!

[Karma Chameleon]

That was a very good comeback indeed.

[BlessedByTheGoddess]

That was a good one!

[Illuminatus]

Did you dance? His humiliation is incomplete if you do not perform a victory dance on the spot. 'oh snap you got dissed' 'oh yeah it's your birthday, go on yeah'

[RowanMegaera]

Nope, I went back to reading my book and left him looking like a beached fish... mouth all flapping open and closed until he finally walked away of his own accord.

[Lunacie]

Hey, you left him speechless ! Way to go ! Usually they are programmed to spout another bible verse. http://mysticwicks.com/images/smilies2/clap.gif

[Catiana]

Good one, way to go

[FaerieLuma]

:thumbsup: Nice comeback!_handclapp

[Saggitario]

Pretty good comeback. Im the same way. I ususally think of comebacks hours after the fact.
Example: Yesterday this random guy comes up to me and says "Do you know about the Lord?"
I should have said, "Sure! Which one?"
or "Yeah, do you know about the Lady?"
But, alas, my mind wasnt working to well. :geez:

I dont mind people being happy about their faith, but when they are being pushy or rude, they are just asking for a verbal smackdown.

[Cappy]

score ! :veryweird

[Tzhebee]

Did you dance? His humiliation is incomplete if you do not perform a victory dance on the spot. 'oh snap you got dissed' 'oh yeah it's your birthday, go on yeah'
No no no. What would have made it complete would have been if Kelso from That 70's Show jumped up from behind the guy and yelled

"BURN!" :lol:

[soilsigh aingeal]

:lol: Frickin Awesome!

[Jenne]

LOL Tzhe--as kids we used to say, "oooh, burned YOU!"


That's a good one--I'll have to use that one someday. My lil bro calls one of our aunts "Deezus" because she's always acting like she's God's gift/the sacrificial lamb/what-have-you. Her name is Dee. Pretty clever.

[forestrangergrrl]

*snickers* good one! i'll have to try to remember it...lol! if you don't mind, that is... *grins*

[GEBS]

My lil bro calls one of our aunts "Deezus" because she's always acting like she's God's gift/the sacrificial lamb/what-have-you. Her name is Dee. Pretty clever.
:lol: That's great.
Our family has one of those people - "Saint Debbie".

[Ninjakitten]

LOL... literally! I've got to remember that one. I'm sure I'll get a similar snide comment given to me once I come out of the broom closet and actually let other Christians know I'm also a witch! That's great!

[Incendia]

LMAO! You brightened my day!

[Aidron]

Niiiiiiiice one. I've used that one in the past, I hope his jaw dropped as far as the ones I've used it on. Just makes the victory that much sweeter. :muwaha:

I'm very witty though, so this is never a problem with me. Always makes me grin when I hear someone else deliver a line like that when usually they are the "You've Got Mail" Meg Ryan type (she states in the movie that she never thinks of the perfect thing to say until hours later and then regrets having not said it when she could).

This whole thing makes me think of another comeback:

"No, I only sacrifice imbeciles."

[brief pause]

"I'd start running if I were you."

:razz:


No no no. What would have made it complete would have been if Kelso from That 70's Show jumped up from behind the guy and yelled

"BURN!" :lol:

Had I been there, I would have gladly jumped up behind her and said "OOOOH! BURN!!!!!" followed by some creative ghetto gestures and a high five.

[DandelionDame]

I'm so glad I read this thread, cuz that is hysterically funny!

[MoonDragn]

:lol: That's great.
Our family has one of those people - "Saint Debbie".

Deb, she's not talking about you is she? ;)

[Felis Sorror]

^^;

That was great! Congrats!

I haven't had too much trouble lately, but that's probably because my best friend makes for a much more interesting target (as bad as that sounds).

[Aleigh]

_handclapp I love it!

[ClockElf]

And in I come for my bi-monthly temporary de-lurking ;) Don't worry all, I'll be gone again for a few months after a few posts :P

Anyways, I'm not trying to be rude here, but why is it a good thing to be lowering yourself to the childish level of that moron? Yes - he was rude but there's a old truism that says "two wrongs don't make a right." Being just as rude back to him is as poor a reflection on your own faith as his.

Now, I'm catholic (and just admitting that is going to have a lot of you discounting everything I say, no doubt), and I have a similar story. I wear a crucifix, and today, some idiot athiest decided to try and goad me - something along the lines of "hey, beaten up any gays recently? Man, religion is such a joke." Now, I could have turned to him and made some "witty" comment about how pathetic I find it for people not to believe in something. What would it have achieved? Nothing more than me acting with the utter lack of respect towards another person's beliefs, which would make me a hypocrite because I believe my faith deserves respect from other people.

I'm sure some of you are asking "why is a catholic at Mysticwicks?" I try and be as open minded as possible, and I ended up at this forum as a way to learn about a different faith to my own. I sometimes wonder if any of you realise that threads like these bear a remarkable resemblence to those funny-but-offencive fundamentalist christian sites?

Again, no offence intended, reading this thread just made me wonder about some things.

[greenwitch]

hey thats great! I love it when I do those randomly great comebacks :D

[SilentDreams]

LOL Thats brilliant. I'm not always quick with witty comebacks. Often thinking of them ages after the encounter. But I really like that and if you don't mind I'm going to use that if I ever end up in a situation where I need to. (although to this day I've never incountered anyone who has questioned my faith in a ill way or wanted to argue)

[Lunacie]

And in I come for my bi-monthly temporary de-lurking ;) Don't worry all, I'll be gone again for a few months after a few posts :P

Anyways, I'm not trying to be rude here, but why is it a good thing to be lowering yourself to the childish level of that moron? Yes - he was rude but there's a old truism that says "two wrongs don't make a right." Being just as rude back to him is as poor a reflection on your own faith as his.

Now, I'm catholic (and just admitting that is going to have a lot of you discounting everything I say, no doubt), and I have a similar story. I wear a crucifix, and today, some idiot athiest decided to try and goad me - something along the lines of "hey, beaten up any gays recently? Man, religion is such a joke." Now, I could have turned to him and made some "witty" comment about how pathetic I find it for people not to believe in something. What would it have achieved? Nothing more than me acting with the utter lack of respect towards another person's beliefs, which would make me a hypocrite because I believe my faith deserves respect from other people.

I'm sure some of you are asking "why is a catholic at Mysticwicks?" I try and be as open minded as possible, and I ended up at this forum as a way to learn about a different faith to my own. I sometimes wonder if any of you realise that threads like these bear a remarkable resemblence to those funny-but-offencive fundamentalist christian sites?

Again, no offence intended, reading this thread just made me wonder about some things.

You know that bible verse that goes "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" Most Pagans believe that's a good, responsible way of behaving. The guy got back exactly what he put out. Rowan didn't curse him or hex him or cast a spell on him, she simply reflected his own attitude back for him to see what he looks like.

[RowanMegaera]

And in I come for my bi-monthly temporary de-lurking ;) Don't worry all, I'll be gone again for a few months after a few posts :P

Anyways, I'm not trying to be rude here, but why is it a good thing to be lowering yourself to the childish level of that moron? Yes - he was rude but there's a old truism that says "two wrongs don't make a right." Being just as rude back to him is as poor a reflection on your own faith as his.

Now, I'm catholic (and just admitting that is going to have a lot of you discounting everything I say, no doubt), and I have a similar story. I wear a crucifix, and today, some idiot athiest decided to try and goad me - something along the lines of "hey, beaten up any gays recently? Man, religion is such a joke." Now, I could have turned to him and made some "witty" comment about how pathetic I find it for people not to believe in something. What would it have achieved? Nothing more than me acting with the utter lack of respect towards another person's beliefs, which would make me a hypocrite because I believe my faith deserves respect from other people.

I'm sure some of you are asking "why is a catholic at Mysticwicks?" I try and be as open minded as possible, and I ended up at this forum as a way to learn about a different faith to my own. I sometimes wonder if any of you realise that threads like these bear a remarkable resemblence to those funny-but-offencive fundamentalist christian sites?

Again, no offence intended, reading this thread just made me wonder about some things.

Of course no offense is taken. I know very well that I lowered myself to his level, and it was a pure reflex. Ordinarily I will just sit back and take as much crap as some people can dish out. Then I will give them my rational and eloquent statement regarding my own personal faith hoping for the respect I deserve.

What can I say, I'm human. Sometimes you just have had enough.

[FroggieThePunk]

That was great! Oooh, I hope I think of that next time someone gives me flak for my Pentacle!

[StormwolfAvatar]

Mostly, I just can't believe he out and said that.

The whole religion thing aside (though I know it was the motivation), that was...a classic example with someone having all the manners and social graces of a troglodyte. And I find it interesting that you mention he was wearing a "W.W.J.D" shirt--to my knowledge, Jesus wouldn't say something like that. Granted, he probably wouldn't be happy with a "lost" soul, either, but he'd be civil and whatnot.

Hmmm...it's a tough call. I agree with you and how you felt, knowing I probably would have had a similar knee-jerk reaction, but I can also kind of see what ClockElf was saying (Welcome to the boards, by the way--hope you find more information that is of interest to you! ;) ). Then again, that's my curse of seeing both sides of the story.

However, this discussion has already been done by folks more knowledgeable than myself, so I'll leave my two cents here.

Regards,
SWA

[knickers]

Interesting...

I wear my pent in plain site all the time, and I have never had any of these problems. Mind you I live in the UK I dont know if that makes a difference but I have found even the religious element to be fairly liberal.

We do still have our fundies like christian voice and alpha course. But so far *touch wood* I havent come across any real comments, usually if they find out i'm Pagan they just want to talk and find out about it, but then again my town is known for being kinda weird, we have quite a lot of Pagans here.

Being an former Catholic, I havent got problems with the comments that were made, about turn the other cheek blah blah, however there are times when slapping the other cheek just makes you feel so good *an eye for an eye* :flowers:

[ClockElf]

You know that bible verse that goes "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" Most Pagans believe that's a good, responsible way of behaving. The guy got back exactly what he put out. Rowan didn't curse him or hex him or cast a spell on him, she simply reflected his own attitude back for him to see what he looks like.

I tend to believe in the "turn the other cheek" philosohpy there, but ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Lunacie]

I tend to believe in the "turn the other cheek" philosohpy there, but ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
Pagans don't believe in "turning the other cheek" or in becoming doormats or victims. We believe in taking personal responsibility. In a situation like that it's also possible to say, "I'm sorry you would think that. Would you like to talk with me about what Pagans actually do and what we really believe?" But, someone like that guy with his self-righteous, cocky attitiude... would he have wanted to talk with such an evil heathen? Probably not. Ya never know though, so that's one possibility in that situation.

Another possibility is to simply walk away, but often that marks us as someone who feels guilty and then the other person becomes even more aggressive in trying to convince us that we're in deep kimchee and they know the only way to get out.

I think Rowan did very well in mirroring what this guy was saying so he could see how his words had felt to her. Sometimes God/the gods use us to provide a lesson for our fellow earth travelers, eh?

[Aidron]

Anyways, I'm not trying to be rude here, but why is it a good thing to be lowering yourself to the childish level of that moron? Yes - he was rude but there's a old truism that says "two wrongs don't make a right." Being just as rude back to him is as poor a reflection on your own faith as his.

Lowering yourself to his level is subjective and a matter of opinion. I consider it to be raising yourself above his level. Using with, cool intellect and a smartass remark to difuse the situation and reflect his negativity back onto him. Maybe he'll learn in time you cannot just go around spreading that kind of energy and not be hit with a backlash-and I'm not talking about karma or the Law of Return here, I'm talking about if you surround yourself in such energy and constantly exude it changes are you're doing yourself in.


Now, I'm catholic (and just admitting that is going to have a lot of you discounting everything I say, no doubt), and I have a similar story. I wear a crucifix, and today, some idiot athiest decided to try and goad me - something along the lines of "hey, beaten up any gays recently? Man, religion is such a joke." Now, I could have turned to him and made some "witty" comment about how pathetic I find it for people not to believe in something. What would it have achieved? Nothing more than me acting with the utter lack of respect towards another person's beliefs, which would make me a hypocrite because I believe my faith deserves respect from other people.

You being Catholic does not make me discount what you said, it simply represents to me that our faiths are different and naturally our ideas of how to handle such a situation will reflect that difference. I believe in giving people their due when ignoring them like the garbage they are is not an option.

To take your scenario into consideration, to reply about the athiest's views of faith would be lowering yourself to his level in my opinion. However, the original poster did not even speak of the man's faith-she was attacking his stupidity, his lack of decency and his overall bad attitude. Entirely deserving, and it leaves faith outside the conversation unless he replies with another snotty remark about religion.


I'm sure some of you are asking "why is a catholic at Mysticwicks?" I try and be as open minded as possible, and I ended up at this forum as a way to learn about a different faith to my own. I sometimes wonder if any of you realise that threads like these bear a remarkable resemblence to those funny-but-offencive fundamentalist christian sites?

Again, no offence intended, reading this thread just made me wonder about some things.


I don't really find fundamenlists to be offensive. A joke at times? Perhaps. And please note that I said fundamentalists as religion has nothing to do with fundamentalism. If you're a fundie, you're askin' to be laughed at like the joke you are in my opinion, whether you're Christian, Wiccan, or anything in between and far beyond.

[Aidron]

I tend to believe in the "turn the other cheek" philosohpy there, but ok. Thanks for clearing that up.


That's good, that's part of your faith. While many Pagans do advocate that philisophy, some don't. I advocate letting things wash over you and ignoring such trivial bullshit, but catch me on a bad day, or push me too far and there really will be hell to pay. I'm not about to lie down and take anything-from anyone.

I personally find regardless of the situation that humor, even if it is a bit scornful, to be far more interesting and a better approach than ignoring it entirely. If someone approaches me with an obvious stance or remark that is just inviting trouble, I might as well give them a bit and throw out a witty reply of my own to knock them off their feet.