Lets make it a little safer

[richardcranium]

How about a poll? Then we can make our admmisions and not have to worry about it.

[mol]

Its neck and neck.... :p

[richardcranium]

It's still early. Wait until later.

[Rosabelle]

you havent put a 'i don't know what this is' so i can't vote :(
Rosabelle

[Selenia]

if you don't know what it is, I'd say you'd vote no....

[richardcranium]

Well it's still neck and neck.

[Kaylara]

I used to use it, I don't anymore or any other narcotics for that matter. I can give myself a much better natural high. I do drink alcohol on occassion. (Is Absinthe considered a narcotic? If so then I guess I do use one narcotic, but on occasion.) I usually drink in moderation, but will get plastered once or twice a year.
(I also smoke cigarettes)
That's me...

Kaylara

[Lilu]

I'll vote simply because I like voting on things, but why the question? Was this related to a conversation I've missed somewhere?

lilu

[mol]

Originally posted by Lilu
I'll vote simply because I like voting on things, but why the question? Was this related to a conversation I've missed somewhere?

lilu

I think it is just meant as a fun poll. Thats the way I am taking it anyway. :p

[richardcranium]

I put this poll up because there was alot of people admitting that they were smoking the stuff. I got kind of worried because of the publicness of this board. So I put up the poll for those of us who wanted to admit to it or not. That way nobody has to get in trouble.

[eaglewolf]

Are we trying to make a safer community, or faster investigation?

~ew

[mol]

Originally posted by eaglewolf
Are we trying to make a safer community, or faster investigation?

~ew

News at 11.

[Silverwitch]

I have enough prescribed stuff in my medcine chest to kill off most of the community and whilst I don't assume that two wrongs make a right, it seems ludicrous that if I were to be seen taking marijuana (which has great pain killing properties), I could go to prison, yet it's quite OK to have an aresenal of lethal drugs in my cupboard. Any one understand it?

BB Silverwitch

[Dextra]

Originally posted by Silverwitch
I have enough prescribed stuff in my medcine chest to kill off most of the community and whilst I don't assume that two wrongs make a right, it seems ludicrous that if I were to be seen taking marijuana (which has great pain killing properties), I could go to prison, yet it's quite OK to have an aresenal of lethal drugs in my cupboard. Any one understand it?

BB Silverwitch



I don't understand it either. Aspirin is more lethal than marijuana, if you take the whole bottle, that is. The only thing pot does (in my own experience) is make you hungry and sleepy. At times it also makes me very creative and want to give my opinion on everything to anyone that will listen. :D

[bluecat]

Heh ... I take belladonna for migraines and have a bottle of the stuff in my pocket all of the time.

Steve

[Niamh]

Never mind the medicine chest, think about any of the cleaning products have under the kitchen sink!

[belladonna23]

Hey!! If you're gonna take me, you could at least kiss me first!!?? ;)

[bluecat]

Originally posted by belladonna23
Hey!! If you're gonna take me, you could at least kiss me first!!?? ;)

That is the best invitation I have had all day! Thank You

BlueCat

[Silverwitch]

:bigredgri I agree with you Niamh, about the dangerous things under the kitchen sink. The difference being I think, that whilst you ingest medication and marijuana, you don't normally eat/drink what's under the kitchen sink - or do you? Perhaps that's a topic for another discussion who knows, it may be a whole new area for me to get into. Snorting dishwasher tablets and having a double bleach on the rocks!

:confused:Seriously though, If you don't know what the poll is about Rosabelle, then heres some information. Marijuana (Cannabis, Hemp, Dope, etc) comes from the plant Hemp, and has been used for thousands of years as a "relaxation drug". It induces euphoria and a general feeling described as "chilled out" amongst other things. It is usually smoked, taken in tea, or made into a cake. It is also illegal in most countries to grow or use marijuana, and generally carries a stiff penalty, often with imprisonment. It is widely used as a recreational drug, and it's use is escalating to the point (in Britain at least), where Government is being lobbyed to either decriminalise or legalise its use. It is also claimed to be of benefit in certain medical conditions, namely MS, ME, Arthritis etc.and has no proven evidence of harm to date on humans, although serious research is only just beginning.

Now you'll be able to vote!

BB Silverwitch

[Yvonne Belisle]

I'm allergic :( I walk through the smoke and it's instant migraine :(:( hey someone smoke my share for me:)

[Niamh]

No, I don't consume my cleaning products! I was only adding to the point that we have far more harmful things in our house than marijuana. And some of them more easily ingestible, depending upon who you are and how well supervised!;)

[Lady Tana]

Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
I'm allergic :( I walk through the smoke and it's instant migraine :(:( hey someone smoke my share for me:)
me too... :(
so someone gets to smoke 2 shares now :)

[Silverwitch]

Looks like I'm in for a good time then! Know the problem though, if my other half so much as gets a whiff of the stuff, he's on the loo for the next 24 hours.

:(Mind you, I have a lot of sympathy, alcohol does exactly the same for me, as well as giving me instant flu!

[Lilu]

Your comment about the effects of marijuana interested me Dextra.

Years ago I remember reading where there was a study done in Australia about the long term effects of marijuana. And one of the problems that were turning up was a schizophrenic-like symptoms, where people would simple not be themselves and act like they were completely different people.

I don't touch the stuff, that's just me. I have seen it ruin enough lives in my family, and I mean that quite seriously. At least three of my cousins are unable to hold down jobs because the stuff makes them violent and uncontrollable. One of those cousins has the "schizophrenia" like symptoms, attacking family members, and when confronted he doesn't even know who we are. When he is off it he is fine though.

I've never used it. I never intend to. I wish I could say the same for my cousins. This isn't to say that I judge people for using it, that's your prerogative, but I don't think that it's as "harmless" as everyone makes it out to be either. At least, not to some people.

lilu

[Yvonne Belisle]

That could be a type of allergic reaction and allergies do tend to run in families. You are wise to avoid it if your family has the tendency to react like that. Different populations tend to have different allergic reactions anddifferent chemical reactions to things. It doesn't seem to be a typical American reaction but look at how large our melting pot is. Austrailia has a good melting pot but it still isn't as diverse as ours perhaps that accounts for the higher numbers of that type of reaction?

[Old Witch]

I voted no because I'm contrary..........What am I against?

[Lunacie]

I'm allergic to marijuana smoke too. I've heard you can get the same buzz by eating marijuana-laced brownies, but heck, just ordinary brownies usually make me feel mellow. :cool:

[anise]

Anything that makes me feel like I'm not in control of my own body I don't touch with a ten foot poll. I'm not morally against it or anything like some people. As long as it doesn't start affecting your life to where you're starting to screw things up because of it, all the more power to you (I suppose ;)).

[Phoenix Blue]

Quoth Old Witch:

I voted no because I'm contrary..........What am I against?
Obviously not necromancy if you brought this thread back from the grave! ;)

[Ben Trismegistus]

I voted no, but it's a qualified no. I used it on occasion in college, and quite enjoyed it. I would still use it occasionally today, except that I no longer find myself in a position in which it's readily available. The last time I smoked pot was on Christmas Eve 2001, along with (of all people) my mother. She had located her old ceramic bong in a box in her house, along with a film can of vintage 70s pot. We smoked the whole thing and then ate an entire box of donuts. My mom is cool.

I never bought any marijuana, not because of a moral objection, but because of a fear of getting caught. I figured that with millions of illegal drug users, I would be the one to buy pot from an undercover cop. And I simply have too many aspirations to risk that sort of thing.

That said, I prefered being stoned to being drunk -- for me, it was a much less "sloppy" high. I'm someone with an overactive mind - constantly thinking of a hundred things at once - and the great thing about pot was that I was only able to concentrate on one thing at a time. If I was eating pasta salad, it was the greatest pasta salad I'd ever had, and nothing else in the universe was of consequence at that moment. That kind of singular clarity is not something you can get from alcohol, or anything else really.

As far as the dangers of pot are concerned, I say everything in moderation. Anything is harmful for you if used to excess. Habitual pot smokers have just as much of a problem as chain smokers or alcoholics or food addicts. But unlike nicotine (which is physically addictive), the addictive properties of pot are merely psychological, which means they only really affect people with pre-existing addictive personalities. Not being an addictive personality, I don't get the urge to get drunk more than once a month or so, and I didn't get stoned more than 10-15 times in my whole life, so I don't think the harmful effects are an issue in my case.

Heh, more answer than you bargained for?

Ben The Long-Winded

[Semele]

Originally posted by Ben Trismegistus
I'm someone with an overactive mind - constantly thinking of a hundred things at once - and the great thing about pot was that I was only able to concentrate on one thing at a time.

I know a couple of people like that..married to one. Don't tell Mol!:D

[Blueowl]

hey Ben its called ADD....Pot does help to slow the mind down with folks like that, at least for me....but with the baby now, I steer clear of it....just to be on the safe side, sometimes pot can make the nausea way worse than what it is!!!

[mariemh]

I voted no because I haven't touched it years. I was of the "take it or leave it" mindset. Mostly though, I was in the "take it" position. But all it started to do was put me to sleep, usually withing 15-20 minutes of smoking. Since I don't usually need help getting to sleep, I just gave it up. I think I was around 22 or so when I stopped.

[Ben Trismegistus]

Originally posted by Blueowl

hey Ben its called ADD....Pot does help to slow the mind down with folks like that, at least for me....but with the baby now, I steer clear of it....just to be on the safe side, sometimes pot can make the nausea way worse than what it is!!!

Well, this is a tangent onto an entirely different conversation, but in my humble opinion (substantiated by growing up in a family with no less than three professional psychologists), ADD is the single most over-diagnosed personality disorders out there. Parents today take every child who is "difficult" or has a "hard time concentrating" and immediately put them on Ritalin, which simply makes them dull and easy to manage. I have no doubt that if I were in elementary school now, I would be on Ritalin. However, because ADD wasn't yet the vogue disease it is now, the school system decided to skip me through third grade, which did the trick.

Of course, ADD is an actual disease, and there are some children (and adults) who simply cannot function without Ritalin or similar drugs. But that number is much smaller than the Ritalin manufacturers would like you to believe. Most of the kids diagnosed with ADD are simply highly intelligent children with overactive minds. They need more challenge and personal attention, not intellect-numbing drugs.

/soapbox

[CloakofStars9]

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[MzNeko]

I gave a qualified "no" as well.

I have nothing against it, and as a once in a while thing it's fun. But I can't be bothered to buy it - or risk being caught.

If I am with friends and they pass me some, sure - as long as I don't have to be anywhere else that night. :D

But, it's been a few years...

[Pan]

Never have.. and never will. ;)

Smelled it once and it stinks! I couldn't stand it.. and it was about ten feet away in someone else's yard when I was visiting a friend up in the northern part of the state.

So.. I voted no.

[Sequoia]

I have once before for pain, and might again if it was severe enough. . . except for the fact that I rather like my job, and if I had to take a drug test. . . well, damn. At this point, I'd rather keep the pain and job than to have no pain and no job. :p

[Blueowl]

You are right on that Ben. It is overdiagnosed...but I AM NOT! so I sincerely hope thatis not what youw ere insinuating when you made your statement. It is genetic...it takes 1 parent to pass it down to the child. (DID you see GENETIC?) I was not medicated. My folks put me on ritalin for 1 month and said NO WAY! So for me, it was strict discipline and structure....it worked for awhile until I got extrememly rebellious and then all hell broke loose. So, youare correct in that it is over diagnosed, but don't blow off the facts of what it is..like your mind racing at 100 miles an hour and doesn't stop, problems with school work, problems within social situations, etc., etc., ...some of truly do have it and we aren't a statistic...one more thing, the psychologists and psychiatrists and internal med docs are the ones generally that do the over diagnosing of this disorder...FYI

[st0rm]

I'm actually quite high right now.

[WtchyChick13]

Originally posted by Dextra

The only thing pot does (in my own experience) is make you hungry and sleepy. At times it also makes me very creative and want to give my opinion on everything to anyone that will listen. :D

:rotfl:


I used a lot. (Much of the early to mid-90's is a blur! :lol: ) But I haven't had any in almost 10 years.

However my advice to anyone who does use: NEVER EVER live next door to a 7-11! I shared a house who's property line was shared with a 7-11. Munchies were lethal and since they are open 24/7 I never had a chance!!! :rotfl:

[Ravens_Tears]

I have tried it but it really doesn't do anything for me. Made me tired, and it made me "snobby":ggrief: Mugwort on the other hand:smile:

[AmbivalentMirage]

I'm not much for the whole drug scene, thanx. ;)

[Ben Trismegistus]

Originally posted by Blueowl

You are right on that Ben. It is overdiagnosed...but I AM NOT! so I sincerely hope thatis not what youw ere insinuating when you made your statement.

Um, how could I insinuate that you were overdiagnosed? I don't know you. I was merely making a general statement, and saying that in MY case, my lack of concentration and difficulty as a child was due more to having an intelligent, overactive mind than to a chemical disorder. As always, your results may vary.


It is genetic...it takes 1 parent to pass it down to the child. (DID you see GENETIC?)

Did I piss you off or something?


So, youare correct in that it is over diagnosed, but don't blow off the facts of what it is..like your mind racing at 100 miles an hour and doesn't stop, problems with school work, problems within social situations, etc., etc., ...some of truly do have it and we aren't a statistic...

Not blowing off anything. You've totally lost me here. When I said that ADD was overdiagnosed, I meant that too many children are being diagnosed with ADD and being medicated when they are simply difficult children -- I believe that those parents (and to a lesser extent, those children) use ADD as an excuse for their children's behavior.

However, I never said that ADD wasn't a real disease, or that there weren't scores of people who really do struggle with it.


one more thing, the psychologists and psychiatrists and internal med docs are the ones generally that do the over diagnosing of this disorder...FYI

Well of course it is. Who other than psychologists, psychiatrists and internal med docs would be diagnosing ADD in the first place? It's the doctors (and the drug companies) that I blame for the overdiagnosis.

My apologies if you misinterpreted my post.

(O great admins, I apologize for taking this thread off-topic.)

[Blueowl]

I did minsinterpet your post. I apologize for being so defensive about it. It is a sore subject with me. Mostly because I find myself having to defend it all the time for all the ignorant people who refuse to see it for what it is. once again, my apologies fro my defensiveness.

[CloakofStars9]

god i love the smell of ganja

so do alot of people i know

funny enough, cigarette smells make me gag

[Ben Trismegistus]

Originally posted by Blueowl

I did minsinterpet your post. I apologize for being so defensive about it. It is a sore subject with me. Mostly because I find myself having to defend it all the time for all the ignorant people who refuse to see it for what it is. once again, my apologies fro my defensiveness.

Apology accepted. Additionally, the way I see it, the overdiagnosis of ADD devalues the experiences of those of you who really DO have it - you know what I mean?


Originally posted by CloakofStars9

god i love the smell of ganja

Oh man me too. But to me (oddly enough), it brings back memories of childhood. My parents smoked pot around me regularly until I was about 12, so that smell always takes me back. :)

[Blueowl]

:p :D I soooo know what you mean Ben! Right on!

I love the smell of it too, ahhh, when the baby is born and I am done breast feeding thenI may smoke again...until then.....:rolleyes:

[Xeen]

Man, if I had taken the chance to use some kind of illegal drug everytime I was offered, my brain would be half moosh right now ^-^

Also, if I had a penny everytime I was asked "hey, do you do pot?" or "do you got any pot on you?", I'd have too many to count.

Anyhow, from that, you should be able to guess what I voted ^-^

[Garnet]

Haven't for years. Too expensive, & the Evil Overlords at work have institued random drug tests for some positions, so I assume they'll be mandatory for all jobs sooner or later.

[Tarbh Nathroch]

I hate drug testing. I refuse to do it. I don't know if it's the same in every state, but you have to sign a paper giving up your rights to be drug tested. If you are being tested without signing anything your company is committing an illegal act. You can not be fired for refusing to sign, but most people don't know this or are afraid to say no. Yet an other example of control by ignorance. I believe in company's right to protect it self, but not by coming into my living room on a Saturday afternoon. If they had a test that told about the 'right now' I would have no problem with taking it each time i went to the time clock. Off topic rant is now over.

[*GrumpButt*]

As for the ADD thing, Regular Medical Dr.'s are not really supposed to diagnose ADD or any other mental related disorders.
And this is why ADD is so grossly over diagnosed.
And b/f someone jumps at me, I took a Child PSY class last semester at college. And learned all about it there.
So if your kid has problems, take them to the reg. DR first, and get a referral to see a Head DR!


And I do believe that most of the kids that are diagnosed by their med Dr.'s (could) just be very smart like Ben was saying.


And the most commonly used drug in the states, according to Rolling Stone MAg, was Weed. It was in like 46 of the states, weed was the most commonly used drug.

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[Xander67]

a healthy alternative to Ritalin in my opinion :)

[Blueowl]

So do I Xander!

[mol]

Originally posted by Xander67

a healthy alternative to Ritalin in my opinion :)

I can agree...somewhat. I wouldnt want to see 8 year olds chokin and tokin though. That just sees 'wrong'. :)

[Blueowl]

You mean he didn't mean adults only?:eek: :confused:

[Kaylana]

I think some people use it to inhance their ritual experience. I don't use any type of drugs so I don't know if it works.

[Ben Trismegistus]

If you want to chemically enhance your ritual experience, just brew a big ol' pot of MUGWORT TEA.

DAMN that stuff is potent.

[Semele]

Originally posted by Tarbh Nathroch

I don't know if it's the same in every state, but you have to sign a paper giving up your rights to be drug tested. If you are being tested without signing anything your company is committing an illegal act. You can not be fired for refusing to sign, but most people don't know this or are afraid to say no.

Uh, you sign that paper before you are hired..it is stated somewhere that while they are an equal opportunity employer they are a drug free facility and testing is part of the requirement for the position. Yes, you can and will be fired for refusing a drug test anytime they want to test you. It is their right as employers.

As for the alternative to ritalin..pot is the exact opposite of ritalin, which is interesting. I have seen it make a difference in concentration myself, but it is odd considering the difference between the actions of the two drugs.

[wyndrazor]

As a priest, Drugs have no place in my life, and as an oath earlier, I swore never to do such drugs.

[zakzekezedd]

Let's just say not in a very, very long time. I did my share of crazy stuff in college, but that was another lifetime ago and then some. Personal opinion is that I don't think that it's necessarily any more harmful that alcohol BUT only when used in moderation. There's a big difference between a person who has a couple of beers, or drinks once in a while and someone who gets "three sheets to the wind" every night.

[Sky_SilverRain]

Marijuana makes Sky go :bug: !

I used to smoke it occasionally; but I haven't for a long time... no real reason for not doing it... just not doing it :)

[Dalia]

I dont have anything against people who use it as long as they dont use it next to me. I hate the smoke. I use contact lenses and the smoke makes my eyes get irritated!! I have never smoked pot or anything. It is just not for me. I have a cousin who does and Ive seen how his life has crashed and how his mother and grandmother have suffered for that and I rather stay as far away from it as possible. And I dont drink also. I am too hyper on the natural, I dont want to know how would I behave under the influence. And I am very impulsive so I dont dare try it and end up loosing control of my self. Plus, there's the possibility that it may affect the brain, the nervous system and cause birth problems. So, I wont risk myself unnecesarily just to have, what, half an hour, one hour, two hours of "fun" I can have lots of fun without it!!
Well, that's it ;)

[Fire_Crotch132074]

I just quit smokin pot, drinking, shrooms, and other things. So I'm finally sobering up for the first time in a long time. Whoo hoo for me.

[scarslet]

I don't anymore.

[Fairywolf]

I haven't done anything in a looooong time. I are proud of my self :hehehehe:

[Xander67]

Im loopy enough without it :)

[LadyOak]

Nope.

[Sparrow]

Well, I don't see why it's illegal(um, tobacco and alcohol are legal, and both are worse imo, especially alcohol). It's a plant. It makes you want to eat a lot and watch cartoons. No one ever got stoned and then beat their wife and kids. I just don't see why it's such a big deal. Do it if you want, stay away from it if you don't, just like with anything else. To each their own.

[licorice whip]

i do, but not too often. i dont like getting really stoned at all, because it just makes me go to sleep! but getting only a little high can be fun, but i dont like it enough to actually spend money on it. i just mooch off of friends at parties. ;)

[Old Witch]

I just have one question.....Can you imagine me on some sort of drug.....I'm crazy enough as I am........

[Open Again]

Not anymore, before my RA went in to remission I did. I was in so much pain and at times it was the only thing that would give me relief. Like I said now it is in remission and I don’t use it at all.

I believe in it for medicinal purposes though, not only from personally experiencing it’s ability to relive unbearable pain, but by watching the relief it gave my friend in his last 6 months of his cancer battle…… it gave him some peace before he passed. I hear it is also wonderful for migraines….. but I get those maybe twice a year so no point in “scoring” just for that….