can i be atheist and wiccan at the same time

[*kebra-moonstone*]

hey everyone, i just wanted to know if it is ok or right for me to be wiccan but also atheist?
i mean i believe in the god and godess but not the chirstan god. does that make any sence

[Darakash]

hey everyone, i just wanted to know if it is ok or right for me to be wiccan but also atheist?
i mean i believe in the god and godess but not the chirstan god. does that make any sence

ah, yeah! the definition of atheist is basically that you believe in NO god (or higher being) not specifically the Christian god....the Christian God has nothing to do with Wicca. Though there are some Christo-wiccans, but that is a whole nother thing....the god and godess of Wiccan practice are not Christian.

[Ron]

a·the·ist
n.

One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.

"Wicca", or what you like to believe is "Wicca", is based upon the existence of divinity - to the extent of my knowledge.

Perhaps, somewhere, there is another cult that has formed that practises "Atheist Wicca"... but that's as oximoronic as "Anti-Chr-stian Chr-stianity".

Futhermore, there are many other faiths that give you all the "benefits" of "Wicca" that are Atheist-based. For example, have you explored LeVey Satanism? Buddhism? What about pantheism?

Do a little research, if you ask me - but who would?

Love-all.

[Darakash]

"Wicca", or what you like to believe is "Wicca", is based upon the existence of divinity - to the extent of my knowledge.

Perhaps, somewhere, there is another cult that has formed that practises "Atheist Wicca"... but that's as oximoronic as "Anti-Chr-stian Chr-stianity".

Futhermore, there are many other faiths that give you all the "benefits" of "Wicca" that are Atheist-based. For example, have you explored LeVey Satanism? Buddhism? What about pantheism?

Do a little research, if you ask me - but who would?

Love-all.
I agree, with the research suggestion, but i think this person is sadly under the assumption for some unknown reason the the Christian god is the God of Wicca, and also that disbelief in that particular god makes one an athiest....which kinda alarmed me....

[Elektra]

"Wicca", or what you like to believe is "Wicca", is based upon the existence of divinity - to the extent of my knowledge.

Perhaps, somewhere, there is another cult that has formed that practises "Atheist Wicca"... but that's as oximoronic as "Anti-Chr-stian Chr-stianity".

Futhermore, there are many other faiths that give you all the "benefits" of "Wicca" that are Atheist-based. For example, have you explored LeVey Satanism? Buddhism? What about pantheism?

Do a little research, if you ask me - but who would?

Love-all.

All of this is true, but I don't think the OP is actually an atheist. She stated in her post that she believes in God and Goddess but not the Christian version of God. Definitely not atheist, IMO.

[darkone_withwords]

yes you can be. If you belive in wicca then you belive in something but you don't have to balive in the chirsten church. I had the same problem but I relized that wicca was real and that it is real.
~dark

[darkone_withwords]

Wow it is so hard to belive that I have been here for a year. Everyone here is my family. You all have helped me so much when I've need a shoulder to lean on there is always some here. I'm so happy that I found this site, I don't think that there is another site where so many people have the same belifes but are so diffrent. I love yall and think you all for the help.
~dark

[Ron]

yes you can be. If you belive in wicca then you belive in something but you don't have to balive in the chirsten church. I had the same problem but I relized that wicca was real and that it is real.
~dark
What are you saying? :shaker: "Believe in Wicca"? That's not even proper grammar; logically, it makes not sense. That's like saying "Believe in Chr-stianity"; it makes no sense. "Wicca" and Chr-stianity can not be "believed" in, since they are actual proven facts. This is different with vampires, exorcisms, etc., since they are debateable and not factual in the eyes of some.

If what you were trying to say was "believe in Witchcraft", then say it. Mercy be: "Wicca" is not synonymous with Witchcraft. You're Wicca, are you not?; you ought to know your stuff.

Futhermore, please capitalize the word "Wicca", out of respect for it. (I do eventhough I am not a fan of the religion.) Moreover, "chirsten" in "chirsten church" is not a word. I believe the word you were searching for is "Chr-stian". Please captialize "Chr-stian", since Chr-st is someone's name; just the same that we capitalize "Elmer Fudd"; we capitalize names in this pathetic English language.

I thank you.

Lovall.

[Ron]

All of this is true, but I don't think the OP is actually an atheist. She stated in her post that she believes in God and Goddess but not the Christian version of God. Definitely not atheist, IMO.
Oh! Oh my. lol. I suppose I should pay more attention. :elf:

Well at least now we have a proper defintion of atheist for this thread. :hehehehe:

Pob bendith - Every blessin'

[MorningDove030202]

I think the Christians are worshiping our Gods, but they got it all messed up. LOL Maybe the Goddess sent Jesus and those who made his mesage into Christianity got it all wrong..... "Love your neighbor" sounds like something the Son of the Goddess would say.....

......hummmmm.........?

Dove

[Toby Stimpson]

Namaste Thread :)...oo, Rhys and Darakesh, hello :).

My dear, as the others here have said...athiesm is the belief in no divine...no higher power...and in soem cases in no other world. Belief in any god, regardless if it is Lord Jehovah, makes you a theist :). Now what kind of theist you are all depends :). :RuNew:

Namaste, and may Kali bless you

Tobias

[StarSpiral]

hey everyone, i just wanted to know if it is ok or right for me to be wiccan but also atheist?
i mean i believe in the god and godess but not the chirstan god. does that make any sence
No. Wicca is a religion which believes in a Divine/Higher Power. Atheism is the belief in no God/Higher Power. Not believing in the Christian idea of God only means you're not Christian.
Maybe you equating Wicca (the religion) with witchcraft (the magical practice). Witchcraft can be preformed by anyone regardless of belief in a Higher power.

What about pantheism?
Pantheism believes in the Divine, just that the Divine is manifest in all Creation not as a separate or consous entity. This would not qualify it as a form of atheism.

[CaitrionaMorgaine]

I think that if you consider yourself atheist; believing in no Gods--then Wicca would not be a good fit for you.

I found a website that explores the relationship between witchcraft and Agnosticism. Thought it might be useful here:

http://agnosticwitch.catcara.com/index.htm

Avalon's Blessings, ~Rhiannon

[Toby Stimpson]

Wicca has many things in common with many other traditions...Satanism for example is completly athiest, or soem forms of it...and Buddhism believes in no God as being the ultimate...these all have some form of spirituality though...I think it would be acceptable to believe in the magickal workings and the spiritual energy movements...and still believe in no higher power. After all, energy manipulation is more science than it is theology.

[ollathair]

IMHO, how can any religion be atheistic? The definition of an atheist is: One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.

If that is the case you cannot have an atheistic religion as religion believes in *something* that is God-, or Goddess-like? Even Satanists believe in Satan, their God? If I am wrong about that then I respectfully apologise to any Satanists who may be reading. Buddhists believe in a God (even if not an 'ultimate' God)? Wiccans believe in deity (God and Goddess usually) and therefore are not atheistic.

Please, once again, these are just my opinions and not to be taken as Gospel :)

**edited to say that it has been brought to my attention that Buddhists do not, in fact, believe in any God/Supreme Being at all. I apologise to any Buddhists who may have read, or may read, this post**

[MorningDove030202]

Some atheists don't literaly believe in god, but they see it as a metaphore, like saying "Jack Frost nipping at your nose"....... there is no jack frost, but it's more interesting than saying "My nose is cold." I have a good friend who is a pagan atheist.......

Dove

[Rev R]

**edited to say that it has been brought to my attention that Buddhists do not, in fact, believe in any God/Supreme Being at all. I apologise to any Buddhists who may have read, or may read, this post**

Who brought that to your attention if I may ask? Buddhists do not worship a particular deity, but that does not mean we don't or can't believe in them.

[Toby Stimpson]

I think what is meant by athiest here is that the Higher Power honoured by Buddhists is not Divine in nature...divinities do exist in amny forms through out the Buddhist schools (I believe the Toaist deities are seen as Boddhisattvas in China, and ofcourse there are the old debased deities of the old Bon religion in Vajrayana, as well as the Kami being identified as Boddhisattvas)...but they are either seen in a demonic role of illusionists...or as lesser spirits to Siddarth Buddha. I think that is what is meant by Buddhism (as a whole) being an athiestic religion...the highest goal has nothing to do with Gods. Atlast that is what I was trying to convey when I said that up top. But yeah, you are right...it all depends how you look at it. Namaste

Tobias