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ShadowcatX
April 17th, 2005, 02:30 AM
Throughout my life I've had what I always just looked at as horrible luck. Just today I began wondering if perhaps I'm on the bad end of kharmic payback for deeds done in a past life. So what I've decided to do is look into my past lives, see if I can find the problem, and then either atone, or attempt to magickally remove the kharma I'm getting from it.

My question is what kinds of things should I look for, and have any of you all ever tried this and did it work? Also, what are the general thoughts of using magick to oppose your own kharma? Btw, I do believe in the 3 fold law so if that matters. . .

SoulHealer
April 17th, 2005, 02:51 AM
Throughout my life I've had what I always just looked at as horrible luck. Just today I began wondering if perhaps I'm on the bad end of kharmic payback for deeds done in a past life. So what I've decided to do is look into my past lives, see if I can find the problem, and then either atone, or attempt to magickally remove the kharma I'm getting from it.

My question is what kinds of things should I look for, and have any of you all ever tried this and did it work? Also, what are the general thoughts of using magick to oppose your own kharma? Btw, I do believe in the 3 fold law so if that matters. . .

First I'd check your present life for problems -soul lost, set mental patterns etc Chances are the problems will be there (and sometimes from really small events in your life as child -which as a child seemed massive and as an adult will seems silly).

If you really want to go into past lives the method I used was to simple meditate and ask to be shown anything from my past life that was affecting me now -it worked and by acknowledging it you release it

~Elise~
April 17th, 2005, 11:09 AM
I want to answer in this but am headed back to the fair...I have some thoughts on this.

Elise

~Broken Lily~
April 17th, 2005, 04:47 PM
I read a really good magazine artical saying that our parents can pass on bad Karma to their children. If they had done something the, bad Karma may not come back on them but on to the children. The artical suggested doing a spell to try and brake this link. It was suggested repeating the spell every month until you feel the bad karma has stopped.

You may not be getting bad karma from you past lives, but actually passed on to you from a relative.

ShamanFeather
April 17th, 2005, 05:27 PM
You may not be getting bad karma from you past lives, but actually passed on to you from a relative.


Interesting thought. How would that affect their current life? Other then getting rid of their negative karma could it have any other repercussions on your own? How/why would it get passed on from parents to children? I have heard of this but would like more information. If you do a spell to interrupt their karma as being put into play in your life and it works, do you feel that they could also even if only unconsciously reinstill that play of negative karma in your life again?

they say if you cut cords with another person the other person can feel it and there can be repercussions such as the person reacting. I have noticed when I try to do something similiar as this karma seperation you talk about the other person begins suddenly seeking me out. can you think of any way of preventing that in setting up such spells of removing other ppl's karma from your own life?

ShadowcatX
April 17th, 2005, 06:24 PM
I'm not planning anything until the full moon, so, I haven't looked at a calander but IIRC I've got about 20 ish days (seems the moon was full not long ago). So there's plenty of time to respond. Then I'm going to do the past life searching part. And then remove that under the new moon.

I don't believe the Kharma is from my relatives, though that is an interesting theory. I know a friend of mine has done some spells and directed the kharma to me, and kharma earned at certain other points in his life to me as well. But he removed that long ago, and I don't honestly believe I'm being hit with someone else's kharma. For some reason I think I probably deserve it from a past life. I've always wondered, even before I believed in reincarnation, what it would be like to be someone who sucked in a past life, now reincarnated.

So does anyone have any ideas what the kharmic reprecussions of this might be?

Dawa Lhamo
April 17th, 2005, 07:04 PM
I read a really good magazine artical saying that our parents can pass on bad Karma to their children. There are some schools of thought which believe that karma is transferrable, and others that disagree and say it's completely individual... For myself, I think it's non-transferrable... I mean, my whole concept of how karma forms and plays out makes no sense if it were transferrable. Do you have a reference for that article so I can check it out?

Anyway, I don't know anything about past-life regression, but I would think if you're working to redeem yourself for any past karma, then you'd probably be better off focusing those energies out into the world rather than targeting the karma itself. Just keep doing good works, that's my advice.

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

Tabbykitty
April 18th, 2005, 01:12 AM
Whoa.... thats a lot of questions about karma.
But its good that someone brought this up cos from what I know, karma is very very important, so are the karmic lessons you learn from it.

For some reason I think I probably deserve it from a past life. I've always wondered, even before I believed in reincarnation, what it would be like to be someone who sucked in a past life, now reincarnated.

So does anyone have any ideas what the kharmic reprecussions of this might be?

well... karmic reprecussions vary depending on what you did, not simply on you just being good/bad. For instance, bullys might find that in this lifetime they are the victim. Or you might end up repeating the same cycle (eg. being bullied or abused) again and again till you learn the lesson you need to from it (eg. how to deal with bullies or abusers)

Well, as a person who had a past life as a very very very dark and "evil" person, I can say that I now see how what I have done is affecting my life. No, I don't have a horribe life (ie. Im not in dire financial need, into drugs, life falling to pieces) but there are karmic cycles I seem to be repeating. One of these cycles is that I tend to meet a lot of people who are into dark magic, and some of them have tried casting their spells at me. It has caused me some real physical pain, but I have learnt to avoid or overcome them.

I am also in the process of clearing/completing my karmic cycle and erasing it from my own life tapestry altogether. If you want more info on this, private message me.

I believe that in a very short lifetime prior to this one, I have received payback for quite a bit of the darkness that I have created in the "evil" lifetime. And now this current lifetime is one where I get to learn new paths and perhaps choose a better destiny. Hence, my life doesnt suck as much now. I was stabbed to death horribly in my short lifetime, and lived in poverty, but since I died trying to protect someone, I guess that musta improved my living conditions in this lifetime :D

Karma essentially refers to a connection, a debt or imbalance that must be balanced through the lifetimes. So if you have a lifetime as a spendthrift, it might be balanced by a lifetime where you are a miser. this is so that we, as eternal souls, learn the lessons that we came here to learn. Until we truly learn and understnad the lessons, we cant truly move on and evolve.


I don't believe the Kharma is from my relatives, though that is an interesting theory. I know a friend of mine has done some spells and directed the kharma to me, and kharma earned at certain other points in his life to me as well. But he removed that long ago, and I don't honestly believe I'm being hit with someone else's kharma.

ShadowcatX, I gotta tell ya. It IS POSSIBLE to transfer or "dump"karma on people. This is called Karmic Manipulation. I know this is true because I myself am in a family that is the victim of karmic manipulation.... also called the family curse.

The reason for this is cos my grandpa, was the member of some mysterious sect/cult. I don't know what deal he made with them, but they turned up mysteriously at my grandma's funeral and that was how I found out about them. The thing is, my family is under a curse where, all male heirs that are born under my grandpa's name are almost destined from birth to be good-for-nothings.....They fare poorly in studies, jobs and lives.... sometimes, it arent even their fault, but it happens to them anyway... its unescapable.

Now, while studying meditation and spirituality from an instructor, I found out that there was a lot of karma manipulation going on in my family. Somehow, my family wasn't really getting what was due to them in this life and it seems that perhaps someone or someones was/were dumping their bad karma on the boys in the family. Im in the process of clearing this so we don't have to live through it any more.

Now, while a person might avoid his/her bad karma through karma dumping, the person will be unable to move upwards in terms of the soul's evolution. that person might even devolve, his soul falling deeper and deeper into darkness. And remember, karma dumping is ALSO a karmic action. The dumper might in their next life become the victim of karmic manipulation. There is no magick that can truly prevent the soul from "paying" the debt for that. The only thing is to walk a spiritual path and learn to undo the karmic manipulation already present and move towards harmlessness by determining NOT to engage in such manipulation ever again. In doing so, one can then escape the cycle forever.

I hope my quick explanation does help explain some questions about karma. Especially about karmic manipulation. It is treacherous and the price that has to be paid for it may sometimes affect even future generations. So avoid it at all costs!

me two cents

ShadowcatX
April 18th, 2005, 10:54 AM
I think you misunderstood, I do believe Kharma can be "dumped" on to someone else, and have had that happen myself, but I don't think that's what is bothering me now.

I also, do not plan to dump my kharma on someone else. I simply plan to remove it all together. To request that what I do affect me, not that what I did as someone else affect me.

Rev R
April 18th, 2005, 11:33 AM
Shadowcat, I have a question. Weren't you you in all of those past lives, regardless of what face you wore? Learn to transcend your karma, bypass the cycle. Do "good" because you can, not to satisfy a cosmic force. Good luck, bad luck, no luck at all...it's just the way the cosmos runs. Not all battles are meant to be won.

ShadowcatX
April 18th, 2005, 11:59 AM
And the answer is both yes and no. I was, but yet the knowledge of what I did wrong has been taken from me, so I am, if Kharma is what's affecting me as I believe it is for the reasons I believe it is, being punished for a crime I don't know I did.

And to not all battles being meant to be won, that may be true, but they still have to be fought.

Dawa Lhamo
April 18th, 2005, 12:03 PM
I think you misunderstood, I do believe Kharma can be "dumped" on to someone else, and have had that happen myself, but I don't think that's what is bothering me now.

I also, do not plan to dump my kharma on someone else. I simply plan to remove it all together. To request that what I do affect me, not that what I did as someone else affect me. Ok, I'd like to know what this "dumping karma" thing is that you both believe in. What are the mechanics of this? Why should I believe that it's someone else's karma and not your own that causes some "bad luck"... I mean, curses I can believe if over time and testing they prove to be there, but a curse of karma dumping? Way outside my realm. Please explain?

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

Rev R
April 18th, 2005, 12:48 PM
And to not all battles being meant to be won, that may be true, but they still have to be fought.

not all battles need be fought. some can be avoided, and others withdrawal is the wisest option.


do what you will, just remember now is the only thing that is real.

ShadowcatX
April 18th, 2005, 02:29 PM
Ok, I'd like to know what this "dumping karma" thing is that you both believe in. What are the mechanics of this? Why should I believe that it's someone else's karma and not your own that causes some "bad luck"... I mean, curses I can believe if over time and testing they prove to be there, but a curse of karma dumping? Way outside my realm. Please explain?

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

I just know what a friend told me. That Karma can be redirected to others. It's not something I would ever try, so I just have his word and a particular run of bad luck at that time, for it. I don't know why it would be possible, and in the long run I don't think it would work but for temporary things, I believe it probably does. You shouldn't necessarilly believe it's someone else's, but you shouldn't necessarilly rule it out until you check.

But just for clarity's sake, I don't think I am, currently, getting anyone else's bad karma, I just think I'm getting the reprecussions from a past life.

ShadowcatX
April 18th, 2005, 02:34 PM
not all battles need be fought. some can be avoided, and others withdrawal is the wisest option.


do what you will, just remember now is the only thing that is real.

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

Tabbykitty
April 18th, 2005, 09:55 PM
I think you misunderstood, I do believe Kharma can be "dumped" on to someone else, and have had that happen myself, but I don't think that's what is bothering me now.

ah i see..... sorry for the misread on ur post.....


I also, do not plan to dump my kharma on someone else. I simply plan to remove it all together. To request that what I do affect me, not that what I did as someone else affect me.

I truly have to apologise for that.... I know ya are probably not gonna do it. I kinda added that warning for anyone reading this post. I should have probably made it clear that it was for everyone. The reason being that, once it becomes apparent to a person that karmic dumping is possible..... some people might try to do it. I thought I'd include that warning for general readers.

ShadowcatX
April 19th, 2005, 10:28 PM
It's cool, it never hurts to have a gentle nudge once in a while.