For Nellie

[Shatril]

OK here is the one with the date corrected. I apologize for the goof of the day. I read that Dec 3, 1973 rather than Mar 12, 1973. What can I say you Brit's are just backwards. :huddle: hugz for everyone.

Kool. My Birthday is 12/03/1973. I was born @ 19.10 in Bolton, England.

Ohh let me know what you come up with...never had this done before!!!

There ya go hun. I still had me original pm!!! Good job coz I would have had to ring me mom again lol.
Here ya go. Just remember these are not my interpretations, the program does those. Let me know how accurate they are, cuz I'm new to the program and want to know if it is kinda close. Also, on of the cautions that they use is that it varies some because of planet and house interactions, so don't get stuck on something that doesn't seem to be you, as it is probably due to other planet and house interpretations.

Your chart had a surprisingly small number of aspect, only one, and it doesn't seem to be way significant. This may make this one more close to what is written. Not sure though.

Shatril

[KEishin]

Shatril sweetie, check the settings in your program - something's not set right.

Yes there's only one opposition (unless you count from Saturn to Ceres/Juno), but there is a pretty strong T-Square and Grand Cross . . .

edit: What are you using to calculate that btw?

[Shatril]

Shatril sweetie, check the settings in your program - something's not set right.

Yes there's only one opposition (unless you count from Saturn to Ceres/Juno), but there is a pretty strong T-Square and Grand Cross . . .

edit: What are you using to calculate that btw?
I'm using SolarFire5, but I only put the planets in this. I didn't do the astroids. This is fairly new to me, and I didn't want to fog this up with all the other stuff. This was just kind of an experiment.

So what specifically did you mean by check my settings, as I'm hoping that I didn't get the location or time wrong.

shatril

[KEishin]

No you got the location perfect :)

I was referring to the aspect settings in SolarFire. I'm not familiar with that program (maybe someone else here uses it?), but look for an option that selects what aspects or orbs of aspects the program deliniates. Where are the sextiles, conjucnts, squares, etc?

For example, when I run the chart in my software, I get the following (see attachment)

I can see immediately that you are not getting SolarFire to show aspects other than the opposition, so go see what might be causing that.

I didn't read your interpretation, but you've got all the planet locations in the right place, so the generalites will be right in delineation, but the details might not be valid.

[Shatril]

No you got the location perfect :)

I was referring to the aspect settings in SolarFire. I'm not familiar with that program (maybe someone else here uses it?), but look for an option that selects what aspects or orbs of aspects the program deliniates. Where are the sextiles, conjucnts, squares, etc?

For example, when I run the chart in my software, I get the following (see attachment)

I can see immediately that you are not getting SolarFire to show aspects other than the opposition, so go see what might be causing that.

I didn't read your interpretation, but you've got all the planet locations in the right place, so the generalites will be right in delineation, but the details might not be valid.

Well my chart doesn't look as good as yours. Mine are all blurry, not sure what is happening there. Grrrrrrrrrrrr.

Maybe Fluffmeister has a recommendation for clearing that up for us.

Shatril

[KEishin]

He's on vacation this week, so we'll have to wait for him to return. If I knew SolarFire, I'd help you . . .

[Shatril]

I corrected the original posting, but was afraid that it would not come up correctly. Take a look at number 1 post.

[Fluffmeister]

OK here is the one with the date corrected. I apologize for the goof of the day. I read that Dec 3, 1973 rather than Mar 12, 1973. What can I say you Brit's are just backwards. :huddle: hugz for everyone.


LOL! Actually, it's not us Brits who are backward - the US and Canada are the only countries in the world who use mm/dd/yyyy format. Everywhere else uses dd/mm/yyyy (including, amazingly, the US federal government!). In fact, the only reason the US still use mm/dd/yyyy format is because Britain *used* to do dates that way, and so the original settlers in the US used the standard British format. About 100 years ago, Britain adopted the system used everywhere else, but the US didn't follow suit (well, the federal government eventually did, but no one else in the US took any notice!).

It does show the dangers of anyone - British or American - quoting months as numbers, especially astrologers - we ought to know better! :D

So c'mon guys - let's spell out the months. Then it doesn't matter whether you choose to put 3 Apr 1960 or Apr 3, 1960 - it's unambiguous!

Now - as for the "blurry" chart. It's not actually blurry - it's a "feature" of Windows Internet Explorer. What happens when you click on an attachment is that it opens up a new window with a big image in it. Internet Explorer says "oh, that's too big to see it all, so I'll shrink it so it fits on the screen". Problem is, it now looks blurry. The cure is: hover your mouse over the picture. You should see a big orange button with blue arrows on it. Click that, and the picture will resize to its proper (larger) size.

[Shatril]

LOL! Actually, it's not us Brits who are backward - the US and Canada are the only countries in the world who use mm/dd/yyyy format. Everywhere else uses dd/mm/yyyy (including, amazingly, the US federal government!). In fact, the only reason the US still use mm/dd/yyyy format is because Britain *used* to do dates that way, and so the original settlers in the US used the standard British format. About 100 years ago, Britain adopted the system used everywhere else, but the US didn't follow suit (well, the federal government eventually did, but no one else in the US took any notice!).

It does show the dangers of anyone - British or American - quoting months as numbers, especially astrologers - we ought to know better! :D

So c'mon guys - let's spell out the months. Then it doesn't matter whether you choose to put 3 Apr 1960 or Apr 3, 1960 - it's unambiguous!

Now - as for the "blurry" chart. It's not actually blurry - it's a "feature" of Windows Internet Explorer. What happens when you click on an attachment is that it opens up a new window with a big image in it. Internet Explorer says "oh, that's too big to see it all, so I'll shrink it so it fits on the screen". Problem is, it now looks blurry. The cure is: hover your mouse over the picture. You should see a big orange button with blue arrows on it. Click that, and the picture will resize to its proper (larger) size.
Yes I agree with the date being spelled out. Actually the gov most often spells out the date as 12 March, 1973 for example. However, our tax forms use mm/dd/year.

Thx for that about the blurry chart. I was starting to get upset because it was hard or impossible to make out the stuff on the chart. Thx.
Shatril

[Fluffmeister]

Well, I'm a Solar Fire 5 user (just upgraded to Solar Fire 6 and getting to grips with that) - and the chart looks fine. It's showing sextiles, quincunxes and so on.

On the main screen, you get a table saying "Current settings" on the screen. Where is says "Aspect Set:" you can just click on that and use whatever aspect set you want (I defined my own, but SF provide plenty of ready-made ones). This allows you to define what aspects you want, what orbs you want and so on. However, the chart you've posted looks fine - did you re-do it, Shatril, as Keishin was saying the original only had oppositions in it?

One really neat feature of Solar Fire if you like their cookbook interpretations is when you display the chart on the screen - if you click on a planet and then click on another planet right away (within about 3 seconds), it brings up a little window with the interpretation of what the aspect between those two planets is. So for instance - there's a Mars/Sun sextile on the example you posted. If you click on Mars (once) then click on the Sun, it will bring up a box explaining what Mars sextile Sun means. If you double-click on a planet, it will bring up a box explaining what the planet means in that sign and house.

[Shatril]

Well, I'm a Solar Fire 5 user (just upgraded to Solar Fire 6 and getting to grips with that) - and the chart looks fine. It's showing sextiles, quincunxes and so on.

On the main screen, you get a table saying "Current settings" on the screen. Where is says "Aspect Set:" you can just click on that and use whatever aspect set you want (I defined my own, but SF provide plenty of ready-made ones). This allows you to define what aspects you want, what orbs you want and so on. However, the chart you've posted looks fine - did you re-do it, Shatril, as Keishin was saying the original only had oppositions in it?

One really neat feature of Solar Fire if you like their cookbook interpretations is when you display the chart on the screen - if you click on a planet and then click on another planet right away (within about 3 seconds), it brings up a little window with the interpretation of what the aspect between those two planets is. So for instance - there's a Mars/Sun sextile on the example you posted. If you click on Mars (once) then click on the Sun, it will bring up a box explaining what Mars sextile Sun means. If you double-click on a planet, it will bring up a box explaining what the planet means in that sign and house.
I did correct her chart. I even fixed the date. The aspects were set at one each, which explained the total lack of aspects. I set them for 9 for the natal, and 1 for progressed and transits. I would like to know what your recommendation is for this. Thx for the advice on the interps. For right now I use the canned ones, as I'm still developing my own knowledge. Sometimes I can pull the stuff out myself and will edit, but right now I'm still learning.

Thx again for your help.
Shatril

[Fluffmeister]

I did correct her chart. I even fixed the date. The aspects were set at one each, which explained the total lack of aspects. I set them for 9 for the natal, and 1 for progressed and transits. I would like to know what your recommendation is for this. Thx for the advice on the interps. For right now I use the canned ones, as I'm still developing my own knowledge. Sometimes I can pull the stuff out myself and will edit, but right now I'm still learning.

Thx again for your help.
Shatril
Yes, I think the "standard" aspects used by Solar Fire are just to stop the chart getting too crowded, but personally I think they're ridiculously small orbs! I created a new aspect set called "STDWIDE" using 9 degrees for conjunctions and oppositions, and 8 for squares and trines. That's the beauty of SF though, it is flexible enough for you to define whatever you like - and no two astrologers can ever agree on the "correct" orbs anyway! I'd certainly go along with your 9 degrees as a good rule of thumb, though.

[Shatril]

Yes I have found that all the books I read have something a little different. Some use 9 apply and 8 leaving, and then give the sun a 12 degree orb. So I kind of wanted to here what someone I can chat with thought. I think I will stick with my 9 degrees, it is easier for me than trying the other stuff.

Thx for your help there.
Shatril

[Fluffmeister]

Yes I have found that all the books I read have something a little different. Some use 9 apply and 8 leaving, and then give the sun a 12 degree orb. So I kind of wanted to here what someone I can chat with thought. I think I will stick with my 9 degrees, it is easier for me than trying the other stuff.

Thx for your help there.
Shatril
Hi, Shatril -

A lot of people do use a bigger orb for the Sun and Moon. Personally, I think we just need to be prepared to be flexible. If you're talking to someone who has Pluto widely square Moon and who seems to have lots of "mother" issues, then I wouldn't say "oh, but that square is 10 degrees so it's too wide to count". I think some people are more sensitive than others to aspects, and they may be able to feel a particular aspect even though someone else with the same aspect can't feel it in their chart.