Mysterious Red Stone: What is it?

[DracoJesi]

im stumped, any ideas?

http://www.deviantart.com/view/17553520

EDIT: IMG tags arnt working, so heres the link
EDIT: i swear every time I edit I lose my sig :(

[wolf]

There's nothing to give a size reference ... what are the dimensions?

How did you come by it ... if you bought it, do you mind if I ask how much you paid? That might help narrow it down.

My first thought is that it might be some type of dyed quartz.

How does energy move through it, and how does it feel when you're just sitting with it?

[Angelus_Errare]

I can't tell for 100% certain, but I really believe it is a dyed quartz, I am almost certain. Dyed quartz is very common.

[VelvetBlade]

Carnelian maybe?

[sari0009]

im stumped, any ideas?

http://www.deviantart.com/view/17553520

EDIT: IMG tags arnt working, so heres the link
EDIT: i swear every time I edit I lose my sig :(

Possibly dyed, possibly rose quartz. http://rose-quartz.crystals2.com/rose-quartz.htm

[Anubis]

yeah... that's dyed quartz... saw a pretty aqua one a few months back

[DracoJesi]

There's nothing to give a size reference ... what are the dimensions?

How did you come by it ... if you bought it, do you mind if I ask how much you paid? That might help narrow it down.

My first thought is that it might be some type of dyed quartz.

How does energy move through it, and how does it feel when you're just sitting with it?

well I dunno. its not mine, its a friends, but she said she paid around $40 dollars for it
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well, Carnelian is a bit orange though isnt it? plus for a stone that size, Greenview said it should have more creane/white inclusions

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as for it being Rose quartz, I thought rose quartz was pink, this stone is red

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died quartz? you realy think so?

[wolf]

Carnelian is kind of translucent, and can even express kind of an inner energetic glow, but it's not clear. Rose quartz is definitely pink, and also not a stone you can see through.

I'm sticking with dyed quartz as an answer for now. And I think that Eijse might be right about the stone being shaped rather than natural.

None of this detracts from the pieces use on an altar. You don't need to get hung up on this or that has to be natural to 'work.'

It's a cool lookin' rock, that's for sure. I think it makes a great representation for the south. Is that what your friend uses it for, or does it have some other purpose?

[Scyllas]

Hrm.. dye quartz... I think. Or it could be one of those man-made cherry "quartz" glass

[DracoJesi]

well i dunno what she uses it for, as far as i know its just for looks because she dosnt know what it is

[sari0009]

Pictures aren't always true to color (!) so if you're seeing it in person and it looks too red to be rose quartz... then you just might have a dyed one. It is best judged in person in this case?

[DracoJesi]

yeah, ill see if she has time to stop by, she knows what rose quartz looks like though

[evesmidnightcrow]

ok..i'm the owner of the crystal. i took the picture. it does look completely different in person than it does in the pic. especially when i had to reduce the pic and then resaved it which cause it to loose color and such.
but i talked to my mom about. she's the one who bought it for me. it was about $40. got it from the gem and mineral show. and i asked her if it was dyed. she said no. she said it was a phantom crystal. she thinks that the pinkish/reddish color is rose quartz.

[Tabbykitty]

actually there are crystals like that on sale at ebay.... they are called "Red Phantoms" or red phantom quartz crystals. The red colour comes from iron oxide or hematite which has somehow gotten in during formation.

They are rare, hence the price. As to what they are for? Well, I have no idea. But quite a few of these have strong energy.

check out these pics:

[DracoJesi]

they dont look like it exactl allthough judging by the three pictures its clear that they come n different varietys, interesting though, does anyone know the the metaphysical properties of these stones?

also if it contains a bit of Hematite then im assuming, just like Hematite, its good for headachs

[Tabbykitty]

actually I have seen red phantoms come in the form that is shown in the original picture you posted. The stone can be very red or it can look whispy. But the colour is this distinctive blood, dark blood or dilute blood colour.

[Rowan Darkmoon]

I would vote for some kind of quartz too, although I'd never heard of the phantom quartz before. To me it brought to mind the energies of clear quartz's shaped like that, something to amplify energy or to direct it. Don't know for sure, that's just what it felt like to me. :uhhuhuh:

[Rowan Darkmoon]

I found this site on the magical properties of crystals...here's what it says about phantom quartz.

PHANTOM QUARTZ: It is a excellent crystal to help meditation and connection with the past and finding guidance.


Crystal Link (http://www.earthchildpendants.co.uk/stones-m-r.html)

[DracoJesi]

I found this site on the magical properties of crystals...here's what it says about phantom quartz.

PHANTOM QUARTZ: It is a excellent crystal to help meditation and connection with the past and finding guidance.


Crystal Link (http://www.earthchildpendants.co.uk/stones-m-r.html)

cool, thanks :)

[Rowan Darkmoon]

No prob. Now I'm all in research mode. :rotfl: I think your friend does have a phantom quartz of some kind because of the veil that is in the center of the stone. The phantom part refers to that "veil" this is what another website said...

"The phantom is where a crystals growth was paused leaving a partial or complete "phantom", within the crystal, after it continued to grow. This "pause" in growth can last for hundreds of thousands of years! The phantom usually appears as a fine white veil, but sometimes as a coloured mineral."

So, it looks like a red phantom quartz. Here is another link, and then I must get out of research mode :hehehe:

Phantom Crystal (http://www.kacha-stones.com/quartz_crystals_properties.htm)

[DracoJesi]

so that rodlike structure in the middle of it isnt a piece of metal but another type of rock (minerals that fill the center?)

[Rowan Darkmoon]

I think the haziness is what they're refering to when they talk about the "veil." This is formed when the crystal stops growing, and then starts regrowing again. It's all the same type of crystal, but from different growth periods. I didn't notice any rod until you pointed it out, but it could be a later addition. The veil is the haze, but it could just be the picture. :nyah:

[DracoJesi]

I think the haziness is what they're refering to when they talk about the "veil." This is formed when the crystal stops growing, and then starts regrowing again. It's all the same type of crystal, but from different growth periods. I didn't notice any rod until you pointed it out, but it could be a later addition. The veil is the haze, but it could just be the picture. :nyah:

LOL, well it could have been added later but i dont see any cracks or anything, of course we cant see the bottom

[gypsy0108]

OK if it looks something like this in Person it is Red Tangerine Hematite Quartz witch has some awesome vital energy

http://www.mysticmerchant.com/redquartz/redqrtheader.jpg

[DracoJesi]

OK if it looks something like this in Person it is Red Tangerine Hematite Quartz witch has some awesome vital energy

http://www.mysticmerchant.com/redquartz/redqrtheader.jpg

ooooooooo, pretty :) but theres no cream inclusions

[Scyllas]

Phantom quartz crystals are wonderful awareness tools. They can give a sense of magic that most of us have lost along the course of our lives. Phantom quartz can help us increase awareness of evolution, in ourselves and in the world around us, showing how growth, rest, and rebirth cycle through all existence. Psychically, phantom quartz is considered excellent for past life work and meditation, and is valuable for the mystic or spiritual seeker. Physically, crystal healing and folk lore say that phantom quartz crystals are excellent for initiating healing, bringing great energy to the healing process, and are especially helpful for hearing disorders and emotional healing.

[sari0009]

Phantom quarty link (pretty cool pictures along with some explanation): http://www.metastones.com/hematite_included_crystals.htm

More indepth info about phantoms at http://www.minerals-n-more.com/Info_Quartz_Family.html

[DracoJesi]

LOL now I want one :)

purple maybe?

[CzechWoods]

almost sure it is hematoid quartz

that is quartz with inclusions of hematite
http://groups.msn.com/czechwoodsgems/quartzwithhematiteeisenkiesel.msnw

[DracoJesi]

well maybe but i doubt it, not enough red

[Crimson Mage]

Try this one:

http://www.exquisitecrystals.com/20-OSS-5closeup.JPG


Its a red hematite phantom quartz. "Phantom" refers to the inclusions that appear to be a "crystal inside of a crystal".

"These magnificent quartz have the properties of both Hematite Quartz and Phantoms. Phantoms can be used to access past lives ( and to meet spirit guides) while the Red Hematite Quartz activates the lower 3 chakras. "

[Teresa]

I was gonna say I think it looks like Red Hematite Quartz from that picture that was posted.

[DracoJesi]

cool, thanks for the pick, now if Kat could elaborate on this

[lightdragon]

Try this one:

http://www.exquisitecrystals.com/20-OSS-5closeup.JPG


Its a red hematite phantom quartz. "Phantom" refers to the inclusions that appear to be a "crystal inside of a crystal".

"These magnificent quartz have the properties of both Hematite Quartz and Phantoms. Phantoms can be used to access past lives ( and to meet spirit guides) while the Red Hematite Quartz activates the lower 3 chakras. "

this is a more detailed account of what Czechwood said. :viking: Which i agree IMO.

[lightdragon]

Just went to a shaman shop today which has a rich variety of gems and minerials. guess what i saw there. Stones with the same EXACT color as this one. The name of it is Strawberry obsidian.

[DracoJesi]

realy? wow :) and I did think the phantoms looked a bit off LOL, thanks ill look it up :)

[DracoJesi]

im having a hard time finding a pic, would you take one you go back to where you saw it :)

[lightdragon]

im having a hard time finding a pic, would you take one you go back to where you saw it :) click here (http://ms101.mysearch.com/jsp/GGcres.jsp?id=TP4YJVpx7vQJ&su=http%3A//ms101.mysearch.com/jsp/GGmain.jsp%3Fsearchfor%3Dstrawberry+obsidian&u=http%3A//www.beadhive.net/beads/natural/stone.htm&searchfor=strawberry+obsidian) another name for it is cherry quartz. Google is so useful at times :muwaha:

[CzechWoods]

Just went to a shaman shop today which has a rich variety of gems and minerials. guess what i saw there. Stones with the same EXACT color as this one. The name of it is Strawberry obsidian.

strawberry OBSIDIAN?

obsidian does not come in crystalic points and I havent seen clear obsidian either.

but sometimes people call man made glass "obsidian" to make it more attractive. hmmmmm

[CzechWoods]

Just went to a shaman shop today which has a rich variety of gems and minerials. guess what i saw there. Stones with the same EXACT color as this one. The name of it is Strawberry obsidian.

strawberry OBSIDIAN?

obsidian does not come in crystalic points and I havent seen clear obsidian either.

but sometimes people call man made glass "obsidian" to make it more attractive. hmmmmm but i have seen they say strawberry quartz or cherry quartz was called obsidian now too..... learn something new every day

[lightdragon]

strawberry OBSIDIAN?

obsidian does not come in crystalic points and I havent seen clear obsidian either.

but sometimes people call man made glass "obsidian" to make it more attractive. hmmmmm
i figured. But as i stated above another name for this stone is Cherry quartz.

[lightdragon]

strawberry OBSIDIAN?

but sometimes people call man made glass "obsidian" to make it more attractive. hmmmmm but i have seen they say strawberry quartz or cherry quartz was called obsidian now too..... learn something new every day

just missed this. so nevermind :ggrief:

well at least you learned something. i did as well. cherry quartz and strawberry are the same thing. 8O

[CzechWoods]

oooh i can add to the confusion even more.

i never heard the term cherry anything (quartz/obsidian) ever before

but in german: strawberry quartz = hematite quartz
and raspberry quartz is the dark red variety of aventurine

[lightdragon]

oooh i can add to the confusion even more.

i never heard the term cherry anything (quartz/obsidian) ever before

but in german: strawberry quartz = hematite quartz
and raspberry quartz is the dark red variety of aventurine

and to clear up the confusion :abanana: i don`t think anyone here mentioned rasberry anything or a strawberry quartz. just strawberry obsidian is cherry quartz.

but it is interesting to know strawberry quartz is another name for hematite quartz.

[DracoJesi]

you guys are confusing LOL

btw: I like your Avatar LightDragon :)

[DracoJesi]

click here (http://ms101.mysearch.com/jsp/GGcres.jsp?id=TP4YJVpx7vQJ&su=http%3A//ms101.mysearch.com/jsp/GGmain.jsp%3Fsearchfor%3Dstrawberry+obsidian&u=http%3A//www.beadhive.net/beads/natural/stone.htm&searchfor=strawberry+obsidian) another name for it is cherry quartz. Google is so useful at times :muwaha:

WOW!!! I think we might have a winner :)
thanks for the link, google hates me LOL

http://www.beadhive.net/beads/natural/images/Cherry%20quartz%20rect.jpg

[EponaCapaill]

i figured. But as i stated above another name for this stone is Cherry quartz.


Yeah, Looks like cherry "quartz" to me too. Cherry "quartz" is actually glass though.

[EponaCapaill]

http://www.rings-things.com/hazel-doc/Extended/cherry.htm

This article talks about cherry "quartz"

Bright Blessings!
EC

[DracoJesi]

glass? it dosent look like glass to me but maybe, but glass dosnt occour it a quartz like structure though

[lightdragon]

btw: I like your Avatar LightDragon :)

thanks

[DracoJesi]

your welcome :)
in case you havent noticed, I also like dragons :)

[lightdragon]

glass? it dosent look like glass to me but maybe, but glass dosnt occour it a quartz like structure though
this one looks polished and cut. IMO. i have seen that with natural quartz and glass.

[DracoJesi]

well ive seen polished qurtz but it stil dosent look like glass

[CzechWoods]

well ive seen polished qurtz but it stil dosent look like glass

the so called water clear quartz does look like glass, which is no wonder as both are made of silicate, and both glass and quartz have the same hardness (moss hardness 7)

i agree that glass and clear quartz cant compare, but they sometimes do look the same

the water clear crystals refer to quartz with no inclusions etc.

here are pictures: http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/clearcrystalquartzbergkristall.msnw

[lightdragon]

thanks for replying Czeech, I couldn`t have said it better. :)

[DracoJesi]

ok :) thanks for explaining :)

[Dream Angel]

the so called water clear quartz does look like glass, which is no wonder as both are made of silicate, and both glass and quartz have the same hardness (moss hardness 7)

i agree that glass and clear quartz cant compare, but they sometimes do look the same

the water clear crystals refer to quartz with no inclusions etc.

here are pictures: http://de.msnusers.com/czechwoodsgems/clearcrystalquartzbergkristall.msnw

You are a delight! I have not heard such mineral wisdom in years! I worked with stones and studied heavily years ago. I was reading this thread and every time I was going to post, you posted my thoughts. I have a silicate sphere that I think looks like a bubble because it is so clear.