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[Tiarcana]

Celtic Cross Spread

1. King of pents

2. 8 of swords

3. 9 of pents

4. Queen of hearts

5. Moon - upside down

6. 10 of wands - upside down

7. 9 of swords

8. Star

9. Ace of swords - upside down

10.6 of wands

To stay with SO or not... unhappy, but maybe happy in the longrun... need another's interpretation for insight on possible path to take... already made my own judgement... just curious to see others' assessment of situation upon reflection of "the Tarot".

Thank you!:awilly:

[Kadynas]

Let me start by saying I'm not a Tarot expert by any means but I'll take a stab at it for you... :)

1. King of Pents... is the guy an earth sign (Taurus, Virgo or Capricorn) by any chance? The card could be referring to him, or maybe just how you see him... I don't know all the details, but if it isn't referring to his sign, maybe it's that you see him as being either very stubborn lately or just too busy with work/career matters to give you the attention you need. It could also mean that you fear he's not "stable" or "committed" enough for you, and maybe that's what you're looking for by getting out of the relationship.

2. 8 of Swords... There might be a sense of feeling tied down to a relationship you're not sure is the right one for you... This card sounds pretty accurate to me! :lol: With the King of Pentacles underneath, you may fear leaving due to financial reasons, or because you're "comfortable" with him, if not necessarily happy.

3. 9 of Pents... In my spreads this is the "distant past" card... However given your placement of it, it's probably the "goal or direction to aim for" card for you? At any rate, the 9 of Pents is usually a good card indicating prosperity and abundance... You'll be able to make it on your own if that's an issue for you.

4. Queen of Hearts... again the way I lay out the cards, this would have been the "recent past" card, but you have it in the "foundation" position. So many variations on the Celtic Cross, no? :lol: The Queen of Cups suggests that you may be overly worried about security needs, but that at heart you want a deep, true and lasting love, and you're more than able to move on if you don't feel you're getting it. You could also feel that you're the one doing all the work in this relationship, pouring your heart out to him without getting much in return, which leads you to feel unappreciated and resentful.

5. Moon, Reversed... This would be the "near future" card for me, but I know some layouts say this card is the "passing influence" or what's "moving away from you"... At any rate, the Moon Reversed suggests a lot of confusion and doubt. You're not sure what to believe and you're doubting your instincts. The Moon also warns that there may be missing information you're not privy to... Reversed suggests that your confusion may linger a bit longer...

6. 10 of Wands, Reversed... Again :lol: not sure if you read this as "recent past" or as "future influences" but in any event the 10 of Wands Reversed suggests that whatever burdens you're carrying will be lifted shortly... Whether that means you'll be free of the "dead weight" and baggage of this relationship, or whether you'll rediscover the spark between you, I really couldn't say without more information. :)

7. 9 of Swords... This card would be your state of mind, or possible actions leading to your final decision... Could be that you're spending a lot of time worrying about nothing. Maybe it's just jitters at the relationship moving to a more serious place?

8. The Star... the environment or affect of others on the situation... Usually a great card to draw! An omen of good fortune... and astrologerthat I am, the book I use also tells me that it suggests the stars will soon be lining up in your favor. :) Whatever happens will be to your ultimate benefit...

9. Ace of Swords, Reversed... hopes, wishes and fears... you fear making the wrong decision or being "unrealistic" about your relationship... you don't want to make any moves that you can't take back. Pretty much whatever you do will break or break this relationship, the card signifies that you're going to take action somehow to improve your situation. But that still doesn't tell me what your choice will be... You're gonna have to tell me or I'll go crazy wondering! :lol:

10. 6 of Wands... final outcome... my book says VICTORY! :lol: Whatever you choose you'll be making the right decision for you, and be all the better for it. It may not be easy, but whatever the game, you will "win".

Ok so what did you decide? :lol:

[Tiarcana]

I will touch your Karma as soon as I can... run out, thank you so much for your read Kady.... unfortunately... I am not in a good frame of mind to read my own decision now... leave him or stay?? opinon... I'm leaning more towards the leaving personally!:cheers:

[Kadynas]

:cheers: Back at ya! I know only too well how hard a decision this can be... but as far as I can tell from the cards you stand to win no matter what happens. :) Good luck, and if you ever want me to look at your charts, just let me know... (I'm home on a Friday night and bored as hell! :lol: )

[Tiarcana]

My current state of mind urges me to discontinue this relationship, however, he will be leaving for a month in a week and I am going to see what this month without him brings. Unfortunately my human mind is somewhat changeable and maybe a month apart will bring about new insight. What I want may not be really what I need and I am hoping that this month without his physical presence will give me the clarification I need for a more absolute decision. This is sounding like somewhat of a soap opera, but it is a huge decision after 12 years of being with someone!

I was kind of curious as to how my spread might be interpreted by someone else in the hopes that another may be able to catch something I missed. I really appreciate your view of my draw!:wave:

[LisaT4P]

Tiarcana, could you please edit your first post to include position meanings. Kadynas has done a great job at guessing, but I'd like to see which positions you're using for each card. There are a bajillion versions of the CC spread out there and I'm almost positive that the one I use is not the same as yours.

Thanks, hon!
Lisa :)

[Tiarcana]

Celtic Cross Spread

1. King of pents - self

2. 8 of swords - crossing

3. 9 of pents - beneath

4. Queen of hearts - behind

5. Moon - upside down - crowning

6. 10 of wands - upside down - before

7. 9 of swords - personality

8. Star - through other's eyes

9. Ace of swords - upside down - hopes and fears

10.6 of wands - final outcome

[LisaT4P]

1. King of pents - self
The King of Pentacles as representing yourself is interesting. I usually see this card as someone who is a financial advisor, the one who takes care of the household & material things. Is that you? Do you get negative or positive feelings from this card. IMO, if a court card is drawn to represent yourself, then how you personally feel about that court card says alot for the reading.

2. 8 of swords - crossing
Perhaps this sheds a bit of light on the King of Pents. If you are the one taking care of the house / finances you may be feeling trapped by that situation. Feeling as though your partner is not contributing enough. It may also be that you feel like your financial situation will be threatened if you break up with him, one income versus two.

3. 9 of pents - beneath
Not sure what you mean by "beneath". Can you explain how you view this position? For now I will interpret it as "The Present" or "What this is grounded on".

You may be feeling as though you are competent enough to stand on your own. You don't feel like you need the extra support and you are perfectly capable of doing everything yourself if necessary. You have proven this point already and you feel confident & secure in your abilities.

4. Queen of hearts - behind
The Queen of Hearts / Cups is in your past. She is the ruler of emotions and nurturing. You are past the nurturing phase of this relationship, at least past the point of actually BEING the nurturer. Relationships should be a two way street and the nurturing should come from both parties. Perhaps you feel not only that you no longer want to nurture him, but that he has also stopped nurturing you?

5. Moon - upside down - crowning
Crowning is another position name that irritates me. What the heck does it mean??? LOL I'm going to interpret it as "Enlightenment from your subconcious".

The Moon is almost always about things being hidden and this is also true of the Moon in reverse. In this case the only illumination you're getting from your subconcious is to let you know that things are out of whack, which you knew already. Perhaps you should take some time and figure out what the problem is from within. Why are you feeling the way you are? A tarot reading about this might be more beneficial than one about your relationship.

6. 10 of wands - upside down - before
The future is a bit cloudy with this card. You have to be careful not to start "passing the buck". A relationship is 50/50 and each party contributes to the success or downfall. It can be all one person's fault. The positive side is that this is a 10, and 10s are the end of a cycle. That could mean the end of the relationship, or the end of the feelings you're having. I'm just not sure.

7. 9 of swords - personality
This is funny. I often interpret the 9 of Swords as the "drama queen card". Can you apply that to your personality? (not trying to be offensive) Some people have a tendency to always make a mountain out of a mole hill. Perhaps you should take a step back and look at this from the "big picture" standpoint and see if what is going on still makes sense. If you're worrying too much, try to think about the validity of your worries. Will this thing (whatever it is you're worrying about) still matter for you in 10 years? If not, it's small stuff and don't sweat it.

8. Star - through other's eyes
Others might be looking at this situation and thinking that there is still hope. That is encouraging for the relationship, since that was the question. Maybe you should take a closer look to see if you can find the hope as well.

9. Ace of swords - upside down - hopes and fears
As this is reversed I'm thinking that logic is not playing much of a role here. You're thinking with your heart and not your head, which is understandable with a relationship question. Perhaps if you take a look at your situation from a more objective standpoint you may see things differently. If this were a friend of yours, would you come to the same conclusions as you've come to for yourself? Would you see things the same way?

10. 6 of wands - final outcome
Victory is your final outcome. This is about following your path to your goal and accomplishing what you've set out to do. Others will see this and respond with cheers for your efforts and achievements. They will be happy for you. The only warning with this card is to not "rest on your laurels" and let yourself sit still for too long. Just because you've accomplished one goal does not mean you should stop setting them for yourself, in your relationships or in your life. You should always be looking for ways to make things better.

[Tiarcana]

I must say... you've about hit the nail on the head here... position "confusion conflict" or not.

I'm the financial director in this relationship (bread-winning and bill paying)... I'm tired of nurturing his needs (yet still find myself doing this)... I have entered the last chink in my chain and feel ready to "kick the can" and of course I'm dramatic about this... a long time in coming since I am usually the most laid back and accepting one in this relationship... I want my needs to scream forth and feel as though what I want and need does matter.

Damn... your interpretation was much more fitting than mine... a little more introspective!

Thank you... now for the hard part... I have a month to make my decision... after that... I'm trapped for another four years! Arrrgghh! I refuse to give in to loose morals (realistically although I've past the point imaginatively and plutonically). Okies... this isn't a soap opera, but damn, can't I go into a coma for a few weeks and wake up in total resplident pleasure? Haha!

Blessed Be!:rotfl:

[LisaT4P]

Great, glad it made some sense to you. Good luck!