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faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 09:02 AM
I am not sure where I should post this, so I decided to try here. My life was turned upside down yesterday. I found out my 14 yr old daughter was trying to commit suicide. She has no desire to live and I am at a loss of why. We spent the better part of the night at the hospital for them to tell me I needed to get her help (why did they think we were there?) and send us home. So this morning I watched her leave for school, hating me for bringing her into this world, wondering if i would ever see her again. I just needed to tell someone, for I feel so aone at this moment. Thank you to whoever takes the time to read this.

Margie
October 17th, 2001, 09:18 AM
:heartthro :( :heartthro :(

Faerie,

I am SO sorry this is happening in your family. I really don't think I can help much. I know in the time between 10-14 was extrememly difficult for me. I had people in grade school calling me names because I'm not pretty and "friends" in high school playing mind games "you can't be my friend if you talk to this person," or "I'm mad at you, now you're my friend, I'm mad at you, now you're my friend". MANY a times I had thought about suicide and sometimes I still do. I don't know what made me NOT do it-back then. But at times the only thing holding me back now is that my boyfriend would absolutely be lost (not trying to sound conceited) and would have no way to care for our 2 daughters by himself. That you're being such a caring mother-though I know is hard-but it's the best thing you can do. I'm not a phsychiatrist by any mean, but I'd suggest to keep trying to talk to your daughter. Is everything ok with her friends? How about grades? Is she depressed about boys? (That happened to me too-If I had a boyfriend in High School and we broke up, I felt absolutely hopeless).

Again, I'm so hard you and your daughter are going through these hard times. I hope you can find her the help she needs.

Earth Walker
October 17th, 2001, 09:20 AM
Sending you Prayers and Energy.....and lighting candles for you.
Goddess keep you all safe. :heartthro

Semele
October 17th, 2001, 09:25 AM
I am also sorry to hear about this. I wish I had some great advice to offer, but I am afraid all I can offer is positive thoughts and energy which I am sending your way. Hopefully together you can work things out. That is a hard age for sure, but she is at least ok for now and you are doing everything you know to do. Just try to stay persistant with her and let her know that no matter what she says you love her and will do everything in your power to protect her. I am so sorry. Just know it is not your fault...she will get through this with your help. I am here if there is anything I can do.

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 09:29 AM
She is completely failing in school, She blames me because she has never met her natural father (his choice, he had visiting rights) she hates her step father simply because he is here and her dad isn't. as far as boyfriends goes, i found out yesteday that instead of being at school for after school activities, she has been hanging out with 18 and 21 yr old guys. I always thought we were close especially scince i had her when i was 15. But boy was i wrong. Thank you so much for your kind words, you have helped me more than you know.

moonmagick4
October 17th, 2001, 09:30 AM
I hope that everything works out OK for you!!!I will light a candle for you!! (((hugs))) :wah: :heartthro

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 09:30 AM
I feel like it is my fault. I feel like I have failed as a mom because she is so unhappy.

Margie
October 17th, 2001, 09:32 AM
This is in NO way your fault!!! I think LOTS of teens go through something like this and all you can do is continue to be the wonderful mother you are!!

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 09:36 AM
thank you

talamh
October 17th, 2001, 09:48 AM
i'm so sorry this is happening, Faeriedust... Hugs. And no.. it isn't your fault .... But an attempted suicide is a cry for help. It's really important that she get in to some sort of counselling and/or selfhelp group so she realizes she is not the only person who feels the way she does.

Is there a local office of the Mental Health Association you can phone for some ideas and to find out what resources are available? Maybe the local library has some books that would be helpful to you and/or to her. Or look online.... there are many resources available there.....

Maybe your daughter is in some sort of very serious trouble... worried that she is pregnant or worried that she might have the HIV/Aids virus.

Don't blame yourself about the absent father issue... you did what you did for good reason. Also, your closness in age to your daughter might be part of the trouble in her eyes...

She needs to talk with someone who is trained in suicide counselling. So do you, hun. Did the people at the hospital give you any phone numbers or the names of any organizations to call for help?

You are not helpless. The help your daughter needs is out there somewhere.

And PS.. don't forget to look after yourself during this crisis... try to eat nourishing food... spend some time grounding and connecting with the elements.... they can help. Air to help you think, fire for the power to do, water for forgiveness and self-forgiveness and for healing, and earth to stay grounded and connected, and for strength.

Goddess bless and Goddess keep....
bb talamh

GoddessofWisdom
October 17th, 2001, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by faeriedust
I feel like it is my fault. I feel like I have failed as a mom because she is so unhappy.
I'm going to post a peice that I wrote when a friend of mine commited suicide.

But for right now..................Sit back, close your eyes and take a deep breath. Here's the deal (i'm not trying to sound unconcerned because this is a problem) If she really wanted to die she would have succeeded. So take solace in that. And now she knows that you are not going to just let her die. I hate to say this but I think it is definitely time to start being the embarassing mom she USED TO think you were. she'll hate you for it now but take it from someone who's been the teenager with the embarassing mom SHE WILL THANK YOU LATER. If she feels that she doesn't need to attend after school activities, make her come directly home after school. If she cannot do this on her own meet her at the school and bring her home. If she decides to cut. Walk to school with her to make sure she is getting there. If that fails...............make arrangements with the school counselors to walk her to each of her classes yourself. She will get sick of it and turn her own life around.

I know it seems easier said than done.

The school counselors are also there to do just that.............counsel the children. Not just academically but emotionally also. Maybe you should set up some appointments for her and yourself. This way you have some kind of intermediary.


Ok I'll stop preaching now:\

GoddessofWisdom
October 17th, 2001, 10:18 AM
I had the pleasure of meeting a nice young man at a Christmas part when I was about 15-16 yrs old. He became a friend of mine. We weren't great friends or even good friends. We didn't hang out every chance we got. As a matter of fact I don't think we every really hung out that often.

A few days ago that same young man decided that life was too unbearable. He took some tylenol pm's, told his mother he was going to bed and then drank some anti-freeze. He woke up that night vomiting, so his mother took him to the ER. He went into coma and died.

I am saddened deeply by this. Not because it was someone that I knew. Any death is terrible and upsetting. But for a young person all of 17-18 to feel as though his life is so insignifigant and that there is nothing good in his life in the present or the future, is extremely unnerving.

I feel as though this young man truely wanted to die. It was not a cry for attention gone wrong. There was no suicide note and he didn't let anyone know that he was contemplating suicide. He truely just wanted to end what he thought was a pathetic existence.

I do not feel sorry for him because he acieved what he though was neccessary. I do however feel sorry for his mother who is probably beating herself up about it. Wondering what she did wrong.

To all the parent of those whom have committed suicide, I want you to know that it wasn't your fault. You had no control over your childs feelings and inadiquacies. Please do not blame yourselves.

If you are a person who thinks that suicide is the only option left to you, you are so wrong. You have everything to live for. There is no telling what can happen in the future.

I hope that you think twice about your decision. There is someone out there who loves you and does care what happens to you. Even if you haven't met them yet.

MammaStar
October 17th, 2001, 10:35 AM
Faerie,

I wish I had the answer you seek. Just know, that I too, along with the community here, I am here for you. Please, do your best, even if you have to drag her by the ear, to find counseling. My older brother & were NOT the perfect teens. We both went to counseling as teens, because our Mother made us, and back then, yes we hated her. Now that we are older, we know what our Mom did was the best thing for us & it makes us love her even more for doing the things she did to take care of us. I remember how hard it was being a teenager, and that was in the 80's, I can't imagine what the kids go through today. The world is a lot scarier.

Please, stay strong for you and her. She's using her father as an excuse. Maybe you all can go to family counseling (your husband too). If you need to talk or even just vent, feel free to email me anytime.

Blessings,

Starlite :heartthro

Laiste
October 17th, 2001, 10:47 AM
Faerie,

I'm sad to hear what you, your daughter and your family are going through...please know that we are praying for your family.
Please don't blame yourself...be strong and drag your daughter to get some help.

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 10:50 AM
I have already made an appt. but the earliest i could get was for oct. 30th. as far as the pregancy thing......... we went monday for a test, it was negative. i won't know any other results for 7-10 days. my husband is 24 ( six years younger than me) only ten years older than my daughter Courtney. she refuses to listen to anything he says.

Shadowulfe
October 17th, 2001, 11:02 AM
Merry Meet,
I also am sorry to hear about this. I really cant give you any advise but i will light a candle and send you positive energies. and to let you know if you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me...

Blessings,
Shadowulfe

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 11:17 AM
Thank you so much everyone, you have all helped more than you realize. I have gotten more support from you guys than from my family. I want to pray to the Goddess but I am so new and I am afraid that I will offend her by saying something the wrong way. I am so new that I don't know how to look to the elements to help me as was suggested earlier. Once again thank you so much for your support, I feel truly at home here at MW.

MammaStar
October 17th, 2001, 11:26 AM
Pick one. Personally, I alway talk to Rhiannon, for her strength. Don't worry about the words, the Goddess & God will know your meaning. I'm sure, she already has you and your daughter in her protective embrace.

Just sit, relax, & start talking it doesn't have to be elaborate. just like a conversation. It'll come to you.

Margie
October 17th, 2001, 11:27 AM
I don't think there's a way to say something wrong to the Goddess. She will see what's in your heart, know what is needed and give you the strength that you need.

Wyrdsister
October 17th, 2001, 11:30 AM
Faeriedust, my heart and soul go out to you and your family!! :( The issues of Suicide and Depression are so painful and difficult, but I am here you tell you that you and your daughter and husband can get through this!!!

I think talamh anEiac had all the right ideas: councelling, doctor's appointments, NO IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT, etc. Read her post at least once a day for the next three weeks!! :)

Your daughter is obviously in great pain. What she needs now more than ever is to talk to someone, maybe several someones. It would be wonderful if one of those someones was you, and I know you are so willing and ready to do that, but she may not be ready for that yet. She may have to talk out some of her anger first. She has every right to be angry at her father, but unfortunately she is projecting some of that anger on to you and your husband. Talking to a counsellor or psychologist can help her work through that over time.

You said you had an appointment for Oct. 30 -- with what kind of professional is this appointment? (doctor, counsellor, mental health professional, etc.) Is the appointment for you and your daughter, or just your daughter? Sometimes you are able to speed up the process by discussing just how much of an emergency this is - there has already been an attempt of suicide with a visit to a hospital. That's important. Though I will tell you: getting an appointment for something like this within a two week period is "quick:" when I was a teenager, the waiting list at my local mental health clinic was three months, and for a psychiatrist it was double. :mad: :rolleyes:

Have you been able to talk to your daughter since the attempt? DON'T beat yourself up if you have to answer 'no' to that question!! You can't make her talk: unfortunately, the ball is in her court on that one.

The biggest advice I can offer you right now is this: RESOURCES, RESOURCES, RESOURCES!! Find out everything your community has to offer. Call the hospital and ask them for phone numbers and contact people for groups and organizations dealing with depression and suicide. Often in hospitals there are day therapies for mental illnesses (but you normally have to be referred to them by a doctor). Local crisis phone lines and sexual assault crisis centers are usually a wealth of resource information. Even if you or your daughter are not immenently in crisis you can still call these lines: I was a volunteer for a sexual assault crisis center with a 24-hour crisis line - trust me, we don't mind! :)

Whew!! I've blabbered on a bit. Faeriedust, PLEASE let us know how you and your daughter are doing. We are all very concerned for both of you and are sending love and positive, healthy energy your way. Thank you for being so brave and sharing your situation with us. We are all with you!!!

:heartthro :heartthro :heartthro Love and Blessed Best wishes,

Wyrdsister

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 12:07 PM
its a counciling center. when i made the appt. i told them there was fear of her committing suicide, i guess that is the soonest.i don't think i wi be getting mch sleep until then. she won't really talk to me to much. she refuses to call me mom( she calls me by my first name) and will not tell me she loves me, although i tell her all the time. she acts like my husband doesn't exist at all.

Danustouch
October 17th, 2001, 12:30 PM
I am so sorry to hear this!!!! My heart, and my thoughts go out to you! I think you should try to get a hold of one of her school counselors, or guidance counselors. They might be able to get her into an appointment right away with someone. You should also call the Suicide Prevention Hotline. Here is one you can try.
1-888-333-AFSP. They may be able to give you some advice, and support.....

I wish the best for you, and your daughter. I wish you both healing, and peace.

Good luck, and we're here to talk if you need it.

Ball-Bhreac Ròn
October 17th, 2001, 01:23 PM
Faerie, I'm writing because I feel that I am very experianced in the matter...

I too am 14. I too was suicidal, only a few months ago. Everything was going wrong...my sister moved out, my dog died :(, the guy I really REALLY fancyed (and still do) didn't like me back, I felt like I couldn't talk to my friends, that they were drifting away, and I just felt so ugly, stupid, and upset...I thought it was all my fault, that I'd done everything wrong, that I'd worked everything out wrong. I thought I was jinxed.

I don't know what happened, but, somewhere along the line, and did a turn-around. This all happened in such a short space of time. I think it started when one of my best friends, the one who I thought never wanted to hang out with me ever again, saw the cuts on my arm. We spoke, we spoke for hours. She helped me through it. My life still isn't perfect, but I'm a lot happier :)

And I would just like to say, it is in NO WAY your fault. Through all this, I did not blame my mum at all, the only person I blamed was me. Mememe. Talk to her, if she wants to talk to you (sometimes people don't want to talk about their feelings...as I'm sure you know). Help her through this.

Well, I don't know if any of this helped, but I just had to tell all this to someone. Hope this helps and thankyou for listening. I've got a lot off my chest :)

Goddess bless you and your daughter, may she see this throuhg this rough patch in your lives. Things will get better :)

Wiccan Maeve
October 17th, 2001, 02:35 PM
Faerie, you and your daughter are both in my thoughts, thoughts of strength and thoughts for a happy ending. I'm one of the Support Counselors here so feel free to IM me if you ever need a person to vent to or a shoulder to cry on.

Love & light always,
Kristin aka Wiccan Maeve

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 02:43 PM
thank you so much for sharing that with me. I am so happy to hear you are making it though your rough time. yes, it's extremely rough because she is mine but it tears me up to think that any young person (or any person at all) could think that they don't have anything to live for. If you need someone to talk to feel free to pm me anytime and i will be glad to listen.:thumbsup:


:boing: :boing: :T :boing: :boing:

Ball-Bhreac Ròn
October 17th, 2001, 03:49 PM
I know this sounds really *really* weird, but the thought that keeps me going is the thought that what if I was to have a beautiful, intelligent child when I get older? A child who will one day change the world? I would be depriving the world of this person, who could perhaps make everything all right in the world again :)

Big-headed thought, I know ;)

Thankyou faeriedust for being so understanding :)

faeriedust
October 17th, 2001, 08:51 PM
far from being "big headed" ......... that is a wonderful thing to think of, but here's another............. maybe YOU might be the one to change the world , to make it right again......... ever thought about that??????????

Wiccan Maeve
October 17th, 2001, 11:29 PM
Meer meet again Faeriedust,

Earlier today after I posted I thought of something I'd like to share with you.

I believe in one of your posts you said that you feel like your daughters state right now is your fault. Please don't think that.

When I was going through my very tough teen years I had many bouts with depression and at times I blamed it on my parents. Now that I'm older though I've realized that my parents were never to blame, they are the best parents in the world if you ask me, :).

So please know that it's not your fault, even if your daughter sometimes puts the blame on you know that there are deeper issues and putting the blame on you is just a way of not directly dealing with her problems.

Obviously if you're out looking for advice from others and planning for counseling you are a conscerned, caring and most importantly a loving parent, :).

Love & light always,
Kristin aka Wiccan Maeve

Kadynas
October 18th, 2001, 03:52 AM
One thing you might (or might not) want to consider, is that her depression might not be just a "phase" type thing either. She could have clinical depression or even be a manic depressive; meaning she swings back and forth between the good moods and bad moods. Both are considered to be a result of chemical imbalances in the brain...life's daily problems can just trigger it all the more.

But I do agree with the others...before trying to get her to take Zoloft or something, someone, anyone, needs to talk to her. It could just be teenage type troubles, or she could be dealing with something serious that she's afraid to tell anyone about.

I don't know I'm just kinda rambling here...but the point I want to make is go easy on yourself. You're not responsible for whatever it is she's going through...if SHE thought so, I'm certain she'd make sure you knew it! (Teen girls can be vicious; I speak from experience! lol) But you're doing all the right things, you're doing all you can...the rest has got to come from her. You're a good mother...keep up the good work!

Hope all turns out well...

Love & Light

Myst
October 18th, 2001, 04:00 AM
Wow. What an experience! I'll try to keep this down to a short novel. :)

faeriedust, I just want to say that not only is this not your fault, I think you've been an excellent mom. I think almost everyone goes through a suicidal period in their life, especially in their teens, I know I did and that a lot of people I have talked to have as well. It's not because we had bad parents. Kids will tease in school, and of course your daughter is at the time where most kids start to break apart from their parents and become separate independent people. Its a scary time and fraught with emotions and rampant hormones.

GoddessofWisdom has shared a very good point - your daughter didn't succeed. You didn't mention how you found out your daughter did that, but the fact that you did is a good indication that she wanted to be found, even subconsciously. And you found her, and you rushed her into the hospital and got help. That's more then some mothers would do, I can tell you that now, and I think you should applaud yourself for doing such a great job.

You think she hates you but right now, if she's like I was just a few years ago, she's so confused she doesn't know who she's mad at. This biological father thing is far from your fault and you should be proud of how you have done with her yourself! I'm glad to see you're getting counselling. This is essential.

If your daughter is like me she tried that as a cry for help. And you have answered immediately and fully, as a true mother should. You need to be applauded for that. You and your daughter have been given the opportunity to change her life and make her happy - it will take time, counselling, and it won't be an easy road.

Also, if you want to ask Goddess for help you can do so in anyway you like. If you want to call her Goddess, Lady, Mother, or by any other name, she will listen. If you take just a few moments to pray to Her, to privately ask Her for help, she will listen. Don't be afraid to talk to Her, even if you just close her eyes and ask Her for guidance she will help. I know I'll be lighting a candle tonight for you and your daughter, and I'm sure I won't be the only one at MW to do so.

Brightest blessings to you and your daughter.

Raynewitch
October 18th, 2001, 07:38 AM
Faerie,

Im so sorry to hear about this :( Its so sad. But like everyone else I agree that it isnt your fault! yOu daughter needs to work out what is going on in her head and until she does....she wont talk.

I have been severly depressed since about 15 or 16 (Im 20 now). It comes and goes in bouts that can be mild to soul destroying.

It was so bad that at one point I had a length of hose in my car so I could gas myself if I wanted, in a place where my family wouldnt find me.

I let depression take over completely and I was in tears constantly, I blamed my Mother and Father, I blamed my friends.....everyone, including myself.

I eventually confided in my best friend who helped me.......she practically set up a bed beside me so she could constantly watch me.

I got over that bout because of her....the next time it was worse and I became a cutter....I have a *rare* (its not rare to the person who has it....) skin condition, which causes the skin to break and blister from the slightest knock and I used that to cover up what I was doing to myself.

I had the support of a couple of people who know about my depression and they keep me on my two feet as much as possible while giving me time and space to think it all through.

I just wanted to tell you that you ARENT alone in this and neither is your daughter.....she will talk to but only if she is ready.

Blessings to you both.

Rayne

Euphoria
October 18th, 2001, 08:10 AM
Faerie.

I am Very sorry to hear about your chrisis .... again let me just say

IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT

I too when i was about 15 tried suicide and it was my sister who found me ... except that time i DID blame my family and in some ways still do ... i know this isnt what your wanting to hear but i blame them for the fact that they didnt help me .. that it was my sister who found me ... got me to hospital and looked after me ... as long as you have shown to her that you won't let her die ... she will Never blame you ... at that point in my life i had just told my family that i was a pagan ... and they wouldnt look at me never mind tok to me and i frelt like i had no life anymore but

I am very glad to be living right now as i have a wonderful fiancee and career ... relationships with my family are still quite tough bu i have my sister

I will light a candle for you and your daughter and family tonite and i will pray for you

If you ever need to tok then i will always be here ... please let me know how things work out

Brightest Blessings
:heartthro Charysma :heartthro

Euphoria
October 18th, 2001, 10:34 AM
Hey i was having a look through my BOS and i came across this spell ... i believe i used it when i was about 17 when i became severly depressed you could maybe try it if you think your daughter is depressed ... you may need to alter a few bits to suit your daughter or you for that matter

Items needed:
* White candle (non-dripless variety)
* Kunzite or blue agate
* Black marker with wide felt tip
* Lemon Balm
* Lemon oil (the kind used for furniture polish is fine)
* Cloth pouch
Begin by completely colouring the candle black with the marker to symbolize the depression that presently encases you. Light the candle and say:

"Flame cut through depression deep,
Melt it down and make it weep.
Grant me power to re-emerge,
From its grip, I leap and surge."

let the candle burn until white wax appears at the flame. Rub a bit of lemon oil into the flame and say:

"Kunzite/agate, stone of mellow hue,
Dissolve this depression, I beg of you.
Take its power and transform its strength
Into positive energy I can use at length."

rub the stone against your temples and your heart, then place it in front of the candle and sprinkle it with lemon balm. Let the candle burn completely. Place the stone and herb in the cloth pouch and carry it with you. When your spirits need a lift, re-anoint the stone and repeat chant.

I hope this helps please let me know if it does

:heartthro Charysma :heartthro

P.S i think i'll post it in the Magick and rituals forum aswell incase anyone else wants to have a look at it

faeriedust
October 18th, 2001, 10:49 AM
The way i found out was she exploded on me sunday night about everything that was wrong in her life and how it was my fault for marrying my husband. She tried to leave the house and I grabbed her arm, and she shoved me across the room. I told her we were going to get help at a local hospital. When I left the room she started ripping all kinds of papers up. I caught her before she destroyed her diary. Thats where I found out about her possibly being preganet and how she would show me by committing suicide. Then on monday afternoon I got a sick feeling in my stomache and called to school to find out that she wasn't at after school pratice. I went to one of her friends houses and asked her if she had seen her, she started crying and told me if she was dead she would never forgive herself for not telling me sooner. thats when I found out suicide wasn't a passing thought, but an everyday thought. Her friend took me to all the places my daughter would go, (none I knew about) and she is the one who found her. I owe this girl so much, my daughter won't even talk to her. anyways, thats when we went straight to the hospital for an evaluation. So thanks to her friend I caught her right before she did it. That is when I posted and got such a wam response from everyone, Thank you to all, being able to talk about it to you helps me more than you know. I prayed to the Goddess every chance I had yesterday and my daughter walked in from school right on time, and I thanked the Goddess repeatedly for giving me one more day with her.

Danustouch
October 18th, 2001, 11:27 AM
Faeriedust,

It seems to me that the source of your daughters anger, is your husband. Now..I dont' believe that any of it is your fault..not in the slightest. But could there be something that he is saying or Doing that could upset her to this extent? Since she's pointed to that as a source for her anger (which..i mean..it could be that he's just a target for her anger)....i think you should pay close attention to how the two of them interact. Maybe keep a log, or a diary of how they interact with eachother....see if anything "Sticks out"..or jumps off the page at you..you know what I mean? And..maybe you should talk with him, and see if he has any idea why she would be so angry at him. If he can think of anything he's said or done to cause it. You know?

Above all..just stay alert. It sounds to me like your daughter really is crying out for help. That the only reason she's trying to commit suicide, is because she doesn't feel that she can express what is on her mind and heart any other way. And that is NOT your fault....there may just be something going on in her life that you don't know about yet..something she has to think through, process through, before she can come right out and tell you. Therapy should help that.

Just keep your eyes, and ears..and mostly..your heart open to her. Try to see things from her eyes. When you see them interact, pay close attention to her reactions to him. her body language, etc. That might give you an idea about what he does to make her react with anger.

Then again..it may not be him...he might just be a target. But..if thats a reason she's given..it bears close scrutiny.

Good luck hon.

faeriedust
October 18th, 2001, 01:18 PM
He doesn't " abuse" her but he is very strict. They are constantly having words with each other and their are times when I feel he is too strict, and I discuss this with him but it only ends in an argument. I feel like I am stuck in the middle. They have no respect for each other at all. Neither one of them will make the first move. I am open to ANY comments or suggestions, I will not be offended or upset. I am looking for any advice.

Danustouch
October 18th, 2001, 01:41 PM
I'm not saying he's beating her hon.....I'm just saying that there may be some underlying tension between them. Something specific he'd said, or done..that has made things VERY difficult between them. Keep a log, as I said...and maybe you could show the log to your husband. His actions..her responses...etc. After a while, they might begin to leave a noticeable pattern, and his words/actions toward her may show the need for a change on his part, too.

Just a suggestion.

Danustouch
October 18th, 2001, 01:47 PM
By the way..could you clarify as to how he is strict? What is he strict about with her?

faeriedust
October 18th, 2001, 02:23 PM
nomal things, clothes, music, friends, where she goes, ect. i am just not that strict i guess.

faeriedust
October 18th, 2001, 02:31 PM
i tried to reply to some pm i got but its kinda hard if you folks don't clean out your mailboxs!!!!! lol

Danustouch
October 18th, 2001, 02:36 PM
it's all clear now!

Pheonix
October 18th, 2001, 03:29 PM
I know this sounds repetitive but you are not to blame! Most teenagers go through things like this and the best thing to do for her is to be her mom, watch her, protect her, be strict with her, but most importantly give her love. It may take her a while to understand and appreciate what your doing for her, in fact I never understood until I had children of my own, but do it anyways, you'll know!

Wish you the best of luck, and ongoing prayers

Lavender
October 18th, 2001, 03:41 PM
Faeriedust, I wish I could add more insight to those that have posted already. I don't have anything new. I just want you to know that I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts.

Hugs!

Mythrel
October 18th, 2001, 05:25 PM
I'm so sorry for you and your family. I don't even know how to respond to this. I wish you all the luck in the world to try and figure out how you can help your daughter. I will be sending energy your way...
Mythrel

faeriedust
October 19th, 2001, 01:52 AM
Thank you everyone for your support and prayers......... this is so overwhelming............ all the love i feel from you guys, it means so much to me:wave: :wave: :wave:

faeriedust
October 21st, 2001, 10:12 AM
just to update on my daughter,
we are still waiting fo our appt. on the 30th. she hasn't made any comments on suicide or running way over the past week,thank you Goddess!!!!! she almost seemed herself yesterday which was so nice to see. don't get me wrong i know her problems are still there but it was nice to see her smile and actually talk to me instead of yell at me.:) :) :)

Euphoria
October 21st, 2001, 11:13 AM
I'm glad that things are starting to get better with your daughter .... even tho its still early its always good to see a bit of progress

i will be sending my prayers and thoughts

Brightest Blessings

Charysma

Socharis
October 21st, 2001, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by faeriedust
I am not sure where I should post this, so I decided to try here. My life was turned upside down yesterday. I found out my 14 yr old daughter was trying to commit suicide. She has no desire to live and I am at a loss of why. We spent the better part of the night at the hospital for them to tell me I needed to get her help (why did they think we were there?) and send us home. So this morning I watched her leave for school, hating me for bringing her into this world, wondering if i would ever see her again. I just needed to tell someone, for I feel so aone at this moment. Thank you to whoever takes the time to read this.

I am so soryy to hear this, Im sending my energies your way :)

Keron
October 21st, 2001, 11:44 AM
Just don't try to have all the serious "family talks" with her just yet. She's going to hate it, feel that you don't trust her, think you're a nag e.t.c. And it might just erupt into an explosion. Just my two cents worth.

Da Witch
October 21st, 2001, 01:49 PM
Maybe now would be the time to see if she would like to go out and do something with you. Maybe suggest that you and her go to a movie or something like that. Just you and her, her choice.

faeriedust
October 21st, 2001, 03:55 PM
that is exactly what we did, we have spent most of the day shopping, talking about this and that, whatever she wanted. tonight me and her are going to make dinner just the two of us.:) :cool: :) :cool:

Da Witch
October 21st, 2001, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by faeriedust
that is exactly what we did, we have spent most of the day shopping, talking about this and that, whatever she wanted. tonight me and her are going to make dinner just the two of us.:) :cool: :) :cool:

Maybe she is realizing that now is the time for healing. Good Luck.

*big hug for both of you*