Lesson 1 -- Story Exchange

[~Elise~]

Please post some experiences that you've had in the past where you think that Magical Self Defense would have helped you.

What have you done in the past? What has worked for you? What hasn't worked?

What is that you're wanting to come away with from this class?

I know I'm starting this a day early...but we will go through the 13th of May on this thread.

Elise

[Bix]

I really haven't had any situations where I needed magical defense that I know of. I am really not up to par on how to protect myself magically, so that's why I joined the class. :) I also really haven't researched a lot on what can actually hurt me.

I guess I just want to learn as much as possible on the subject. How to protect myself, and what to protect myself against.

[RavensEye]

Two incidents happened to me one when I was 9 and I was a Christian but I was staying at my Grandmas and I was resting in her room because crucifix scared the hell out of me. It literally felt like someone was grabbing me around the throat and it happened more then once. When the Crucifix was put in a drawer in the dresser instead of still being on the wall I was fine . But still that was the first of a few experiences I had where I felt I needed help protecting myself

The other incidents was in 1996 at Christmas time I was over half way through my pregnancy with my first child I was visiting my boyfriend in another city and we went to visit his friends and one of the roommates and anyways I stepped into the house and I had to go right back out something was not right. But then I came back in and things were fine after dinner they were playing a card game and I sat on the couch watching them play. I saw something up on the ceiling and then felt something like it was grabbing at my stomach my daughter felt like she was struggling it was a weird sensation, and then it felt like something grabbed my throat and pushed my head back I could not move or bring myself back. Is struggled and the above incident came to mind when it was happening. I forget what I did but I soon could breath and told my boyfriend and we sat out side so I could get some fresh air. He did not sense a thing.

Later when we talked to his mom about it she informed me that the one person in that house does rituals that involve sprits ands such and does not close his rituals properly. Now when I think of it he was also apart of some Order cannot remember the exact name, and I recalled his books and now know he was involved in some aspect of ceremonial magick.

Anyways since those incidences I have increased on protecting my self with various forms of shielding and I have to say I have come along ways. But I am hoping from this class to get some new perspectives because I do not believe this is something you could ever learn totally I think there is always something new that could be learned.

Now as for what I have you done in the past is a colour type shielding it works for me very well. now I can think sheilds up and there is my wall in front of me or where it needs to be and the colour I t neds to be. Or in soemcases what coems to me as it were.

Also depending on the situation, it spends on the shielding I use as for projecting a sphere or bubble around myself or my family. I have also used crystals and candle workings as well for protections and shielding. So that’s it briefly.

[~Macha~]

I, personally, have never really had anything happen to me... unless you count the time at the Tower of London when I had bizarre feelings and felt very cold and very sad. Took me a few days to "get back to normal"... same thing happened anytime we visited dungons and things of that nature... so perhaps I have had things happen to me.
But, even if I hadn't, being perpared is never a bad thing!

[~Elise~]

Wow. Bran...what an experience. I'm glad it turned out well. CottageWitch--Shielding can help you in situations like that. Bix--you're in the right place!

Who else has things to share?

We have a banner now--see the banner thread. There are also directions cut and pasted from a sticky in the banner forum on how to add to your signature line.

Elise

[ajna]

Well I tend to collect things, spirits...people..., that feed off energy or like to create bad situations for whatever that particular whatever is folowing. Thankfully I recharge my energy quite quickly and tend to carry a lot of personal on me, but that is also probably the reason I attract such things to me. I have never known how to block people from doing that to me or banish mean spirited spirits altogether. Most of the time, I don't realize what's going on until I'm in the middle of something or I've already been drained quite a bit, so being able to defend myself when I'm running on little energy and there is none to be accessed also sounds like a great idea.

I'm not quite sure on how to word any of this because I don't know too much about spirits, energy exchanges, or magickal defense so my vocabulary is quite limited.

[wooleybob]

Well.I seem to deal with alot with psychic vampires,that tend to cling to me.I protect myself from them by using a method of fingerlock,and visualize and affirm i am now energized,and fully protected by a bright impenetrable energy.I also use my quartz crystals.
I have had spell's and hex's sent to me.I have returned them to the people filled with love,and no harm to them done.

[eric2001]

I haven't had anything happen to me in the past that I can think of. I don't really know much about magical defense, and I'd like to do something about that. This course looked like a good place to start learning about it, thus I enrolled :smile:

[RavensEye]

Wow. Bran...what an experience. I'm glad it turned out well. Thanks and me to .

[wooleybob]

I am wanting to come out of the class with learning to protect myself from the negitive that i am exposed to daily,and to change it to a more possitive and productive way,to better my skills and practice of my way's of keeping the faith.

[Greybird]

Here's the story that tends to make people call me delusional.

My mother had precognitive dreams fairly regularly, and was pretty sensitive. When I was about a year and a half old, we moved into a new house. It didn't take my parents too long to realize that there was 'something else' there. My mother said, and I quote, "I don't know what it is, but I've seen it, and it's evil". We moved. It followed us. One night a few weeks later I was asleep in my crib. My parents were in bed. My mother woke with a start, called my name, and rushed to my room. I was dead, already turned blue. My mother grabbed me, and as soon as she did, I started breathing again. Doctors later estimated I had been fully dead for several minutes. I remember everything that happened after my mother woke me up, including the ambulance, the hospital, all of it. It is my earliest memory. Oddly, though, the view I had was that of an observer above everything that was going on, not from within my own body.

Twenty years later, I had several nasty experiences. In each case, there was an overwhelming feeling of hatred, anger, jealousy, and dread, so much so that the first time I experienced it, my friend and I were literally paralyzed for several hours until the feeling faded. Some research led us to believe that it was the same thing that had attacked me as a child. It has been almost ten years since I have had any problems with that particular thing (although the friend that was with me has had them more recently.)

During that time, I learned a few basic defensive techniques. The LBRP proved useful the last couple of times I experienced this thing. The biggest problem I had with learning defensive techniques was that I never had teachers or friends to learn them from. I learned what I know almost entirely from books, and in 91-92 when all of this was happening, books teaching good defensive techniques simply weren't around. Heck, even today there aren't many of them.

I don't know that this particular thing will ever be a problem again - I certainly hope not. Since then, though, I've found that I am sometimes very sensitive to outside stimuli - places with lots of negative or angry energy absolutely bombard me, much more so than they did before those incidents ten years ago. Also as a result, I've felt the backlash of people who had a strong hatred toward me. I've picked up the excess baggage of people experiencing intense emotions around me. My wife having a bad day will put me into a funk for hours, even if I'm not around her. I've had uncomfortable feelings and experiences that I couldn't really nail down the cause of.

I hope to be able to gain more control over what I let in from day to day - intentional or unintentional. At the same time, I hope to gain the skills to protect myself should I ever encounter energies like those that apparently once killed me. At least if you don't all just call me loony and summon a psychiatrist on me! ;)

[wooleybob]

Two incidents happened to me one when I was 9 and I was a Christian but I was staying at my Grandmas and I was resting in her room because crucifix scared the hell out of me. It literally felt like someone was grabbing me around the throat and it happened more then once. When the Crucifix was put in a drawer in the dresser instead of still being on the wall I was fine . But still that was the first of a few experiences I had where I felt I needed help protecting myself

The other incidents was in 1996 at Christmas time I was over half way through my pregnancy with my first child I was visiting my boyfriend in another city and we went to visit his friends and one of the roommates and anyways I stepped into the house and I had to go right back out something was not right. But then I came back in and things were fine after dinner they were playing a card game and I sat on the couch watching them play. I saw something up on the ceiling and then felt something like it was grabbing at my stomach my daughter felt like she was struggling it was a weird sensation, and then it felt like something grabbed my throat and pushed my head back I could not move or bring myself back. Is struggled and the above incident came to mind when it was happening. I forget what I did but I soon could breath and told my boyfriend and we sat out side so I could get some fresh air. He did not sense a thing.

Later when we talked to his mom about it she informed me that the one person in that house does rituals that involve sprits ands such and does not close his rituals properly. Now when I think of it he was also apart of some Order cannot remember the exact name, and I recalled his books and now know he was involved in some aspect of ceremonial magick.

Anyways since those incidences I have increased on protecting my self with various forms of shielding and I have to say I have come along ways. But I am hoping from this class to get some new perspectives because I do not believe this is something you could ever learn totally I think there is always something new that could be learned.

Now as for what I have you done in the past is a colour type shielding it works for me very well. now I can think sheilds up and there is my wall in front of me or where it needs to be and the colour I t neds to be. Or in soemcases what coems to me as it were.

Also depending on the situation, it spends on the shielding I use as for projecting a sphere or bubble around myself or my family. I have also used crystals and candle workings as well for protections and shielding. So that’s it briefly.
I had an experance something like that..It was at night an I was in bed asleep.I had felt this presure on me,I could not move,scream,yell nothing..this went on and off for a few week's..I asked my Mom what was going on and if I was going crazy,she said no and come over to my house and explained to me that it was probably a Succubi or a Incubi.a spirit that attaches to a person in their sleep.A succubi goes after male's and a Incubi goes after women..all in all we did a ritual and cleansing of the house,she brought with her some of her personal herb's,oils and powder's..She used Eye of Satan and placed it around my bedroom to ward off the Succubi,and to this day I never delt with something like that ever again..Was a scarry thing tho..

[BrigidMoon]

Can't say I've done much but visualization and shielding that way. I'm pretty oblivious those stealing energy etc..

[Teresa]

In 1992 I encountered unknowingly someone who was jealous of me for what reason I do not know to this day. They practised a form of Voo Doo. I never knew about people seeking to harm others before this happened. I ate food from them and thus the saga began.You name it ,it went wrong for me. My luck turned sour.I still did not know that someone was working things against me relishing in my troubles and demise. I went with a friend to a mystic and while I was there he took a look at my hands which had begun to have these blisters come up that a regular doctor could not explain.He asked me a few questions.My answers to then were all yes. He asked me if I minded shuffling the cards for him.I said no, I do not mind. He asked me some things about a woman he saw which helped pinpoint who the culprut was. I never knew then that people you actually trust and think are your close friends could do things to have such an adverse effect upon your life thur "rootwork"He gave me some things.1 was something to wash my hands in every nite.Another was something to cleanse my house with a special smudging stick.Third item was something to wash all my belongings in.Fourth he told me to never eat anything that this person made .Fifth,He told me to take some cyanne pepper and salt mixed 1/2 and 1/2 and sprinkle around my door steps and at my window sills to repel any negative energies seeking to harm me.( This also was my first experience at using a poppet which I was given instructions on how to do) :loveduv:
It was a very stressful time for me and also a very hurtful one. During this mess I lost my home,car,job, and all belongings in one day due to a freak act of nature.( Of course which my insurance did not cover)
I learned a valuable lesson about trust from this experience and am much more guarded about things than I was back then.

[~Elise~]

Here's the story that tends to make people call me delusional.

My mother had precognitive dreams fairly regularly, and was pretty sensitive. When I was about a year and a half old, we moved into a new house. It didn't take my parents too long to realize that there was 'something else' there. My mother said, and I quote, "I don't know what it is, but I've seen it, and it's evil". We moved. It followed us. One night a few weeks later I was asleep in my crib. My parents were in bed. My mother woke with a start, called my name, and rushed to my room. I was dead, already turned blue. My mother grabbed me, and as soon as she did, I started breathing again. Doctors later estimated I had been fully dead for several minutes. I remember everything that happened after my mother woke me up, including the ambulance, the hospital, all of it. It is my earliest memory. Oddly, though, the view I had was that of an observer above everything that was going on, not from within my own body.

Twenty years later, I had several nasty experiences. In each case, there was an overwhelming feeling of hatred, anger, jealousy, and dread, so much so that the first time I experienced it, my friend and I were literally paralyzed for several hours until the feeling faded. Some research led us to believe that it was the same thing that had attacked me as a child. It has been almost ten years since I have had any problems with that particular thing (although the friend that was with me has had them more recently.)

During that time, I learned a few basic defensive techniques. The LBRP proved useful the last couple of times I experienced this thing. The biggest problem I had with learning defensive techniques was that I never had teachers or friends to learn them from. I learned what I know almost entirely from books, and in 91-92 when all of this was happening, books teaching good defensive techniques simply weren't around. Heck, even today there aren't many of them.

I don't know that this particular thing will ever be a problem again - I certainly hope not. Since then, though, I've found that I am sometimes very sensitive to outside stimuli - places with lots of negative or angry energy absolutely bombard me, much more so than they did before those incidents ten years ago. Also as a result, I've felt the backlash of people who had a strong hatred toward me. I've picked up the excess baggage of people experiencing intense emotions around me. My wife having a bad day will put me into a funk for hours, even if I'm not around her. I've had uncomfortable feelings and experiences that I couldn't really nail down the cause of.

I hope to be able to gain more control over what I let in from day to day - intentional or unintentional. At the same time, I hope to gain the skills to protect myself should I ever encounter energies like those that apparently once killed me. At least if you don't all just call me loony and summon a psychiatrist on me! ;)

No--noone will be calling you loony, least of all me. Sounds like you're a pretty stong empath.

I have a couple good shielding techniques that I will share that WITH DAILY practice you will be able to filter what you let in and what you don't.

Elise

[~Elise~]

In 1992 I encountered unknowingly someone who was jealous of me for what reason I do not know to this day. They practised a form of Voo Doo. I never knew about people seeking to harm others before this happened. I ate food from them and thus the saga began.You name it ,it went wrong for me. My luck turned sour.I still did not know that someone was working things against me relishing in my troubles and demise. I went with a friend to a mystic and while I was there he took a look at my hands which had begun to have these blisters come up that a regular doctor could not explain.He asked me a few questions.My answers to then were all yes. He asked me if I minded shuffling the cards for him.I said no, I do not mind. He asked me some things about a woman he saw which helped pinpoint who the culprut was. I never knew then that people you actually trust and think are your close friends could do things to have such an adverse effect upon your life thur "rootwork"He gave me some things.1 was something to wash my hands in every nite.Another was something to cleanse my house with a special smudging stick.Third item was something to wash all my belongings in.Fourth he told me to never eat anything that this person made .Fifth,He told me to take some cyanne pepper and salt mixed 1/2 and 1/2 and sprinkle around my door steps and at my window sills to repel any negative energies seeking to harm me.( This also was my first experience at using a poppet which I was given instructions on how to do) :loveduv:
It was a very stressful time for me and also a very hurtful one. During this mess I lost my home,car,job, and all belongings in one day due to a freak act of nature.( Of course which my insurance did not cover)
I learned a valuable lesson about trust from this experience and am much more guarded about things than I was back then.

that's great that you found someone who could help you break the cycle. Yes, rootwork can be VERY powerful. And always be careful eating with others who are magical workers...if they don't put it on their plate and take a bite first, don't eat it.

I've learned the hard way myself.

Elise

[~Elise~]

I had an experance something like that..It was at night an I was in bed asleep.I had felt this presure on me,I could not move,scream,yell nothing..this went on and off for a few week's..I asked my Mom what was going on and if I was going crazy,she said no and come over to my house and explained to me that it was probably a Succubi or a Incubi.a spirit that attaches to a person in their sleep.A succubi goes after male's and a Incubi goes after women..all in all we did a ritual and cleansing of the house,she brought with her some of her personal herb's,oils and powder's..She used Eye of Satan and placed it around my bedroom to ward off the Succubi,and to this day I never delt with something like that ever again..Was a scarry thing tho..

For those who are experiencing this...look up night terrors. It is a worldwide phenomenon. I've had that happen as a child myself.

Elise

[~Elise~]

Well I tend to collect things, spirits...people..., that feed off energy or like to create bad situations for whatever that particular whatever is folowing. Thankfully I recharge my energy quite quickly and tend to carry a lot of personal on me, but that is also probably the reason I attract such things to me. I have never known how to block people from doing that to me or banish mean spirited spirits altogether. Most of the time, I don't realize what's going on until I'm in the middle of something or I've already been drained quite a bit, so being able to defend myself when I'm running on little energy and there is none to be accessed also sounds like a great idea.

I'm not quite sure on how to word any of this because I don't know too much about spirits, energy exchanges, or magickal defense so my vocabulary is quite limited.

You're in the right place. I think we'll be able to help you with this.

[~Elise~]

I haven't had anything happen to me in the past that I can think of. I don't really know much about magical defense, and I'd like to do something about that. This course looked like a good place to start learning about it, thus I enrolled :smile:
That's my plan with this class....to give y'all a good basis to start with.

Elise

[wooleybob]

Sorry I must leave now,my son has a concert at 7pm..i'll catch up when I return..
BB MP

[Sage Rainsong]

Well I used to have a very CRAZY friend. She was cool in the begining but then she started saying bizzare things like "God told me in a dream last night that I could send souls to hell if I and he felt that they deserved it" Yeah I know its pretty wierd. She would curse anyone who looked at her funny. We had a falling out because she tried to get me to join this new age group that believed that they were reincarnated aliens who were sent here to send healing energy and stop the apocalypse. Of course you weren't really one of these aliens unless you paid 500$, Yeah Wierd I know, you see why I didn't want to go. Anyway I started sensing bizzare hatred energy comming after me so I banished it and then I put her name in a jar filled with cider vinegar with her name on a peice of paper in it. Also I put in under some nasty insence. I then took a black candle and put it on top of the jar so the wax would seal it. I visualized her stewing in her own "juices" so to speak, until she learned her lesson and changed. I know that this wasn't the most loving approach but she had some SCARY energy let me tell you.

[ajna]

To Greybird: I definitely don't think you're crazy. I can't say that I know anyone who has virtually died as a child like that before, but I have been in many situations where I'm confronted by something that has paralyzed me (a friend of mine had to carry me out of the woods once last year because of that very thing. I felt something bad, said we needed to go back, and as soon as we took another step I fell... I wasn't even practicing at the time so if I could feel it without being tuned in to it at the same time, I would hate to know what it was... it's scary stuff).

The out of body memory can be explained by psychology -- I had a few memories like that as well so I studied up on it. Turns out that your first memories don't come in to play until about three or four unless it was something traumatic (then they can be as early as two-ish). If you have a memory of a time before that, it's because you've heard the stories so much that your mind has created a memory for you. These memories usually appear as third-party memories. Like you were out of your body. Who's to say, though, that babies can't have out of body experiences?

To Wooleybob: Thanks for your post about how you protect yourself. I need to try something like that sometime. At times I have been protected by a light as well (a beam), but I'm not the one projecting it. If I'm really open one day and I notice the more vampiric things around me more than usual and I get scared by them I tend to just curl up in a ball and pray, almost a chant, for someone to protect me (I've been doing that since I was about... 13 maybe? I remember I was at my Christian peak at the time I really started noticing the nature of these things -- odd now that I come to think of it, I just assumed everyone had them back then) and the light would just form down on me. It will be nice to be able to create my own little something instead of feeling so helpless. Well, heh, I'm glad I was able to sign up for the class.

PS: sorry to everyone, I tend to be a bit long-winded.

[Rowan Darkmoon]

I have a couple of stories that make me want to take this class...they might be a little long so bear with me. :lol:

The first negative entity experience I had was when I was living with a couple of friends (who were dating) at an old apartment. I would notice something in the hallway at night, it seemed human shaped, that would stare at me if I left the door to my bedroom open. There were three of them, two felt female and one male. It went on for a little while, and I kept having dreams about them, in my dreams they looked like black flame with red eyes, so I decided to cleanse the apartment and hallway. When I moved into the hallway and asked the things to go away, the male blantaly told me that he would not. So, I kick his butt out, set wards around the apartment, and didn't have a problem after that.

Later, I told the story to my male friend, who has psychic abilities but refuses to learn how to use them, and he freaked out. They were into drugs, and I was not, so whenever they did them I left the apartment. He had recently tried mushrooms for the first time. He had no reaction to them, until he went to his bedroom and looked out into the hallway. In the hall he saw three black figures with red eyes who looked at him and said, "We're not leaving, we're a part of you now."

I experienced some psychic probbing earlier in this year from unknown people. It felt unpleasant, like someone was taking a jackhammer to my forehead. I set up some psychic shields, and cut the ties that they were trying to establish, and set a very clear "stay away" message back. They persisted for some time until I asked The Morrigan to incede on my behalf and strengthen my stay away message. They haven't messed with me since then.

While I do have some experience with Magical Self Defense, I'm not as good at it as I would like to be. I have a tendency when I go new places to absorb the energies of that place until I'm pretty much walking around in a daze for the first day or so. Usually this is o.k., but when I'm in a place with a lot of negative energy, it severely effect me and makes me spacey and freaked out. So, I would like to strength my shielding techniques, and learn some new stuff. O.k., that's it I think! :yayhawaii

[Greybird]

If you have a memory of a time before that, it's because you've heard the stories so much that your mind has created a memory for you. These memories usually appear as third-party memories. Like you were out of your body. Who's to say, though, that babies can't have out of body experiences?

Thanks for the input. I'd actually found the same thing through research myself, but eliminated it by describing the surroundings to my father in precise detail, which he then confirmed as correct, plus describing some other minor related events that weren't in the stories. Anyway, I'll quit derailing. ;)

[~Elise~]

You aren't de-railing. This is exactly the exchange process I wanted to happen.

Elise

[~Elise~]

I have a couple of stories that make me want to take this class...they might be a little long so bear with me. :lol:

The first negative entity experience I had was when I was living with a couple of friends (who were dating) at an old apartment. I would notice something in the hallway at night, it seemed human shaped, that would stare at me if I left the door to my bedroom open. There were three of them, two felt female and one male. It went on for a little while, and I kept having dreams about them, in my dreams they looked like black flame with red eyes, so I decided to cleanse the apartment and hallway. When I moved into the hallway and asked the things to go away, the male blantaly told me that he would not. So, I kick his butt out, set wards around the apartment, and didn't have a problem after that.

Later, I told the story to my male friend, who has psychic abilities but refuses to learn how to use them, and he freaked out. They were into drugs, and I was not, so whenever they did them I left the apartment. He had recently tried mushrooms for the first time. He had no reaction to them, until he went to his bedroom and looked out into the hallway. In the hall he saw three black figures with red eyes who looked at him and said, "We're not leaving, we're a part of you now."

I experienced some psychic probbing earlier in this year from unknown people. It felt unpleasant, like someone was taking a jackhammer to my forehead. I set up some psychic shields, and cut the ties that they were trying to establish, and set a very clear "stay away" message back. They persisted for some time until I asked The Morrigan to incede on my behalf and strengthen my stay away message. They haven't messed with me since then.

While I do have some experience with Magical Self Defense, I'm not as good at it as I would like to be. I have a tendency when I go new places to absorb the energies of that place until I'm pretty much walking around in a daze for the first day or so. Usually this is o.k., but when I'm in a place with a lot of negative energy, it severely effect me and makes me spacey and freaked out. So, I would like to strength my shielding techniques, and learn some new stuff. O.k., that's it I think! :yayhawaii

I moved into my former BF's house and he'd left a couple of entities behind...I tolerated them for a bit, but when one copped an attitude because I was ignoring him, I banished him to the former BF. Figured they were his to begin with so he could deal with 'em.

I went and visited the ex-BF once after that -- one of the entities was around and it was hilarious in the fact that the entity wouldn't even come into the same room I was in.

Elise

[PeleRising]

I used to believe that nothing could hurt you if you didn’t give it the power to hurt you… *sigh* Then I met this woman online who I thought was wonderful. She offered to teach me and well I was naïve, rather new to my path and I accepted… Over time I gave her information about myself that today I wouldn’t share with anyone. Something happened, and we had a falling out. After she and I stopped talking, things started going really wrong in my house, stuff falling apart… my youngest daughter started having extremely vivid nightmares about things that had never bothered her before… my husband and I were all of a sudden suffering migraines…

Do I know for a fact this woman tried to cause me harm? No I dont… but I do know that after I shielded my house… and “saw” our house surrounded by a huge mirror, that the headaches went away… and the nightmares stopped.

You ask what I want to come out of this class with…Well let me put it this way… I keep the door to my house locked when we are away… and when we are sleeping. I don’t know that there are bad guys or gals out there… but its good to know that if they are in the neighborhood… and they choose to come to my house, that they cant get in. In regards to this class… I truly hope I never find myself in the position of having to use what I learn here… but if I learn it, and practice it… I will be prepared and if anything does come knocking… they will find that door “locked” just like the physical one.

[~Elise~]

I used to believe that nothing could hurt you if you didn’t give it the power to hurt you… *sigh* Then I met this woman online who I thought was wonderful. She offered to teach me and well I was naïve, rather new to my path and I accepted… Over time I gave her information about myself that today I wouldn’t share with anyone. Something happened, and we had a falling out. After she and I stopped talking, things started going really wrong in my house, stuff falling apart… my youngest daughter started having extremely vivid nightmares about things that had never bothered her before… my husband and I were all of a sudden suffering migraines…

Do I know for a fact this woman tried to cause me harm? No I dont… but I do know that after I shielded my house… and “saw” our house surrounded by a huge mirror, that the headaches went away… and the nightmares stopped.

You ask what I want to come out of this class with…Well let me put it this way… I keep the door to my house locked when we are away… and when we are sleeping. I don’t know that there are bad guys or gals out there… but its good to know that if they are in the neighborhood… and they choose to come to my house, that they cant get in. In regards to this class… I truly hope I never find myself in the position of having to use what I learn here… but if I learn it, and practice it… I will be prepared and if anything does come knocking… they will find that door “locked” just like the physical one.

If you don't get that out of this class, then I will feel I haven't done my job well. Can I teach everything? NO. But, I will hopefully give a good basis and it will be something you can build on with practice.

And it does take practice, esp. at first. It takes daily practice...now I don't have to re-new my shields very often, but when I do, I'm usually changing what works for me at that time.
When I first started, it was daily--before I even got out of bed. It was routine.

Elise

[wooleybob]

If you don't get that out of this class, then I will feel I haven't done my job well. Can I teach everything? NO. But, I will hopefully give a good basis and it will be something you can build on with practice.

And it does take practice, esp. at first. It takes daily practice...now I don't have to re-new my shields very often, but when I do, I'm usually changing what works for me at that time.
When I first started, it was daily--before I even got out of bed. It was routine.

Elise
I hope that I may learn alot of things from you in this class.I still do my daily routine's and all,but lately thing's seem to go amuck at time's,no matter what I do.I do know what is the cause of it,alot of stress and with that fig in with my daily routine's it make's it a mess,and hard to concentrait on what I do.I do and listen to relaxing cd's and meditate,my heart is into it fully,but my mind seem's like it want's to stray and I start losing focuse of thought,do you understand what i'm meaning?..(please forgive my spelling,cause I only type with two fingers..lol and not a good typer)..

[Briana]

Hi! Well my worst experience has to be with the 'dark nasty' that had attached itself to me. I getting a massage/energy work done (my massage therapist is also psychic...has seen ghosts since she was 5) rather freaked out. There was apparently this dark nasty big thing attached to me. When we were done, it was hanging out in the kitchen and she asked me to stay with her while she locked up the office for the evening. Had me rather freaked (okay so I slept with my lights on that night). I went to a hypnotherapist two days later. It had apparently been attached to me since I was 14 (didn't have the best childhood so I can see how it would have been attracted at that time).

I can't 'see', I just get vibes and feel. When I'm off balance and my energy is not running well, I know I have alot of 'things' in my fields. I have been told by several people that I'm like a lighthouse/big white beacon that attracts good and bad (lucky me...). When I'm 'out of balance', my massage therapist frequently finds my fields filled up with things, (fairies, dragons, etc.). Apparently I also attract from other dimensions--the dragons. I like dragons but for some reason she did not think that was good. Of course, if these things are 'sucking' energy from me...and I know several of the beings are, then I definitely don't need that. It takes enough to get thru the day without other things draining your energy.

As for shields, I've tried the bubble--didn't work because I felt like I couldn't breathe. I've tried metal grids (after the big nasty) but I don't want to block everything out. Currently, I use a white energy source. I do notice that when I get tired/stressed that my shields must weaken.

So, as to the question of why I am interested in this class is better shielding/protection from those that would attach themselves to me or drain my energy.

Whew...okay I think the covers most of it.

Blessings,
Briana

[Briana]

I don't know that this particular thing will ever be a problem again - I certainly hope not. Since then, though, I've found that I am sometimes very sensitive to outside stimuli - places with lots of negative or angry energy absolutely bombard me, much more so than they did before those incidents ten years ago. Also as a result, I've felt the backlash of people who had a strong hatred toward me. I've picked up the excess baggage of people experiencing intense emotions around me. My wife having a bad day will put me into a funk for hours, even if I'm not around her. I've had uncomfortable feelings and experiences that I couldn't really nail down the cause of.

I hope to be able to gain more control over what I let in from day to day - intentional or unintentional. At the same time, I hope to gain the skills to protect myself should I ever encounter energies like those that apparently once killed me. At least if you don't all just call me loony and summon a psychiatrist on me! ;)

Hi Greybird,

Sounds like you are an empath like me...it took me years to discover this (boy being an empathic teenager...the 'black sheep of the family' was really rough. I wish someone could have identifed it and helped me out then)! I was constantly taking in other peoples emotions. Shielding has definitely helped...I;ve made my shields so that I can 'see' the feelings but put them over to the side so that I wouldn't take them in. (I'm moving from rescuer to healer so I don't want to totally block it.) Sometimes my shields don't always work...I still sometimes take in others energy...

Blessings!
Briana

[Briana]

I had an experance something like that..It was at night an I was in bed asleep.I had felt this presure on me,I could not move,scream,yell nothing..this went on and off for a few week's..I asked my Mom what was going on and if I was going crazy,she said no and come over to my house and explained to me that it was probably a Succubi or a Incubi.a spirit that attaches to a person in their sleep.A succubi goes after male's and a Incubi goes after women..all in all we did a ritual and cleansing of the house,she brought with her some of her personal herb's,oils and powder's..She used Eye of Satan and placed it around my bedroom to ward off the Succubi,and to this day I never delt with something like that ever again..Was a scarry thing tho..

That sounds kid of like the Night Terrors I sometimes get. You can't get out of your dream. Can't move, speak, anything. I usually finally get out of it by somehow moving myself so I fall over or get a scream out that wakes my body. I did hear someone say it could be an entity causing it. My friend gets them too...her's she see's ALOT of blood, where as mine are ususally see shells of bodies after something has killed them...don't recall blood in mine. I will have to look into the Incubi.

**Elise...do you happen to know how to shield from Succubi/Incubi, or do we need to do some type of ritual?

Blessings,
Briana

[wicked_craft]

just like, someone said.....im sorry i forgot the name.....but i really cant hink of anything and this si why im in this class. i hope that i can learn much more and if i think of somehting i will post again...thanks :)

[~Elise~]

That sounds kid of like the Night Terrors I sometimes get. You can't get out of your dream. Can't move, speak, anything. I usually finally get out of it by somehow moving myself so I fall over or get a scream out that wakes my body. I did hear someone say it could be an entity causing it. My friend gets them too...her's she see's ALOT of blood, where as mine are ususally see shells of bodies after something has killed them...don't recall blood in mine. I will have to look into the Incubi.

**Elise...do you happen to know how to shield from Succubi/Incubi, or do we need to do some type of ritual?

Blessings,
Briana

Yes--I'll post something either later tonight or tomorrow about it

Elise

[Briana]

Thanks Elise! I also have had an issue with an attack from a person at a metaphysical shoppe (I now am very careful about going into shops that give off negative vibes...I just walk keep on walking). After that 'incident' I actually shied away from large pagan events for quite awhile (sounds really wussy :shhhh: ...but you can protect yourself from the physical...but the metaphysical is a whole 'nother thing. ) Well, I'll quit yammering...

Blessings,
Briana

[Teresa]

I used to believe that nothing could hurt you if you didn’t give it the power to hurt you… *sigh* Then I met this woman online who I thought was wonderful. She offered to teach me and well I was naïve, rather new to my path and I accepted… Over time I gave her information about myself that today I wouldn’t share with anyone. Something happened, and we had a falling out. After she and I stopped talking, things started going really wrong in my house, stuff falling apart… my youngest daughter started having extremely vivid nightmares about things that had never bothered her before… my husband and I were all of a sudden suffering migraines…

Do I know for a fact this woman tried to cause me harm? No I dont… but I do know that after I shielded my house… and “saw” our house surrounded by a huge mirror, that the headaches went away… and the nightmares stopped.

I grew up believing that as well because that was what my grandparents had told me.I also was naieve enough to think if you did not believe in "roots" they wouldn't work on you.Boy was I wrong and boy am I thankful to have found someone to help me and teach me a few things.
I also have learned to be cautious of things given to you by magical workers as well.The hard way has been my route of much learning.I have learned to question motives of people etc.Looking at them to catch glimpes of their aura or trying to feel their emotion and intent.I had the abilities all along I just didn't use them.I had tuned them out for the most part. The strongest advice I can give anyone is to trust Your gut instincts! They very rarely steer You wrong.

[~Elise~]

Yes--I'll post something either later tonight or tomorrow about it

Elise

Okay--it will probably be Monday before I get anything posted on this. I still have to write Beltane ritual for tomorrow night and we put the maypole up tonight. We have about 30 people coming to dance the Maypole and jump the bale fire. (No, I'm not late...it is the actual date of Beltane today.) the Maypole is very bee-ute-tee-mous with all the pretty ribbons hanging from it. I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then I'll be out of town all weekend doing a psychic fair with no access to email...so don't think I'm ignoring y'all.

Elise

[~Macha~]

CottageWitch--Shielding can help you in situations like that.
aye, I know that now... but at the time, I was a clueless Catholic just think the demons were tryin to get the best of me... or some nonsense like that. Perhaps it was actually te spirits of those still there, and they were trying to tell me their story? Or perhaps a "black nasty" was trying to attach itself to me.
Question- why does it take days for me to return to normal after that. Oh yes, and I get all funky feelin if anyone around me is feelin "blah"

[~Elise~]

Question- why does it take days for me to return to normal after that. Oh yes, and I get all funky feelin if anyone around me is feelin "blah"


One--you need to ground yourself and learn how to shed extraneous stuff from others.

Shielding with help also with that funky feeling...you're probably an empath to some degree to pick up other's blah feeling.

I'll teach y'all how to filter that stuff out.

Elise

[BrigidMoon]

Can't say I've done much but visualization and shielding that way. I'm pretty oblivious those stealing energy etc..

I'm going to edit this because come to think of it. I've had the bad spooky feeling when certain people enter a room. I don't even have to see them. I stay clear away from them when this happens.

[wooleybob]

I'm going to edit this because come to think of it. I've had the bad spooky feeling when certain people enter a room. I don't even have to see them. I stay clear away from them when this happens.
I feel the same way..its like you can feel the neg energy,and evil comming from them..It's a weird gut feeling that something just is'nt right...

[BrigidMoon]

I feel the same way..its like you can feel the neg energy,and evil comming from them..It's a weird gut feeling that something just is'nt right...

Yes. There was this one time, I was at a friend's house. I wasn't even in the room where the door was and stood up in defense when this person was at the door. I walked into where the door was and sent my energy back into that area and looked this person straight in the eye. He did NOT step foot into the house while I was there.

[RavensEye]

I had an experance something like that..It was at night an I was in bed asleep.I had felt this presure on me,I could not move,scream,yell nothing..this went on and off for a few week's..I asked my Mom what was going on and if I was going crazy,she said no and come over to my house and explained to me that it was probably a Succubi or a Incubi.a spirit that attaches to a person in their sleep.A succubi goes after male's and a Incubi goes after women..all in all we did a ritual and cleansing of the house,she brought with her some of her personal herb's,oils and powder's..She used Eye of Satan and placed it around my bedroom to ward off the Succubi,and to this day I never delt with something like that ever again..Was a scarry thing tho.. Well wooleybob that sounds like quiet the experince and at least you had someone to help you with Thanks for sharing that here.

I am glad to be apart of this class and I am glad to know I am not alone in the experinces I have had. I really am glad that we have this class available to us. I am glad that we can share this class together and I look forward to learning with you all.:hailmol:

[Sage Rainsong]

I just realized that I haven't fully answered the questions that you posted.
What hasn't worked for me are grounding techniques. Much of the time Grounding just feels weird and invasive to me. I was always taught in some form or another to use a sort of a grounding cord or roots visual. It seems a little wierd when I do it. I guess I cant really explain it. Im not an airhead or anything I promise.

I hope to get a sense of empowerment from this class. I want to know that when I face more power hungry wierdos (as I definately will. I seem to attract them) I wil be able to hold my own.

[~Elise~]

I just realized that I haven't fully answered the questions that you posted.
What hasn't worked for me are grounding techniques. Much of the time Grounding just feels weird and invasive to me. I was always taught in some form or another to use a sort of a grounding cord or roots visual. It seems a little wierd when I do it. I guess I cant really explain it. Im not an airhead or anything I promise.

I hope to get a sense of empowerment from this class. I want to know that when I face more power hungry wierdos (as I definately will. I seem to attract them) I wil be able to hold my own.

Interesting...can you explain how grounding feels invasive to you?

hopefully--you will end up with that empowerment.

Elise

[Teresa]

I feel the same way..its like you can feel the neg energy,and evil comming from them..It's a weird gut feeling that something just is'nt right...
I have encountered people like this too.My radar is usually right on target.I worked with Henry Wallace ( N.C. version of a serial killer and always knew something about him was very dark )My best friend and I closed together almost everynite.We would call to let the other know we got home alright. She was very terrified and lived in the apartments where these killings were happening mostly and she felt like someone was following her.I had confided in her about my feelings I had when he was around.I will never regret telling her and I am thankful she is still living today and we still talk from time to time.

[Greybird]

Sounds like you're a pretty stong empath.



Actually, that would explain the spontaneous panic attacks I started getting when I began work at the prison.

[Carickah]

Most of the time, what happens is by instinct only. Only on a few occasions have I actually thought about any kind of self defense. Those times where I have thought about it it is either in the form of visualizing myself in a mirrored sphere or inside an energy sphere.

But I actually have problems controlling my shielding. One of the things I hope to learn is how to lower my defenses when they are not needed or when they are a henderence to desireable energy. As some know, that is a bit of a problem for me....



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[wooleybob]

Does anybody have a light head,or feel weak if your not grounded fully?..I've had many day's like that..Maybe thats part of why things besides stress,are going flukey with me ???

[Sage Rainsong]

Interesting...can you explain how grounding feels invasive to you?

hopefully--you will end up with that empowerment.

Elise

I am not sure that I can explain it very well. Lets see....... I just feel uncomfortable visualizing a plunging cord going straight into the earth and sucking its energy and violently pulling it through my chakras. When I perform it I don't feel like its my energy entering me even though that I am well aware that I am part of nature whether I like it or not. Sort of like drilling for oil.. Does this make sense? maybe there are other ways of grounding without using the cord/roots visual?

[Dawa Lhamo]

Please post some experiences that you've had in the past where you think that Magical Self Defense would have helped you.

What have you done in the past? What has worked for you? What hasn't worked?

What is that you're wanting to come away with from this class?

I know I'm starting this a day early...but we will go through the 13th of May on this thread.

EliseOk, well, mostly my problem isn't that things attack me, but that I seem to draw people into my life who are quite sensitive and often have problems with things attacking them. But they always ask me for help and I do what I can, but usually it isn't enough.

A few years ago, my friend invited me to this party at someone's house. Well, she introduced me to the host and a bunch of people there. Well, one thing led to another and I acted completely out of character, and I actually signed up to be a 0degree initiate in their order (I can remember what it's called, but I don't feel that I should say) Anyway, it turns out that they practice energy vampirism (which I'd never heard of) and one of my coven-mates warned me strongly against associating with them. I cut off all ties with them. My friend who introduced them to me cut off her ties (coincidentally?) and later she called me and told me to "call on all the protections you have" because they were pretty pissed. Well, they went over and harrassed her, and then a couple months later she had some kind of mental attack by one of them - who, incidentally, she now thinks is just a-okay and the whole thing "must have been a mistake".... She only told me afterwards that she discovered one of them (the one I was most associated with) prying in her mind, and he said he was "only wanting to help her".... So, I've never been sure if my actions that night were.... influenced, either by manipulation using something he found in my head, or something he did to my head.... or perhaps it was just me being a freaking idiot. My protection at the time was my home, which is the safest, most secure place ever, because Love Rules There. ^_^ But definitely being able to help my friends, and myself whenever I get into sticky situations, would be extremely beneficial.

Love has been the strongest protection for me. One of my roommates had some entity bothering her (much in the manner of some of these stories) and we successfully exorcised it with Love. What hasn't worked? Well, my roommate tried all things with bells and such, but the Love thing was the first thing I helped her with magically.

And though I haven't yet had to use it, one night, a couple years ago, I had this dream.... In the dream, I was looking on the internet for magical protection and talking on the phone to my dad. So, my dad tells me that to avoid magical attacks and such, I should find a good place to hide physically, and then empty my mind of all things relating to place - as in, don't think about how I'm hiding in this closet here, sitting in my body here, I shouldn't think about place at all... in fact, I should try to empty my mind of all things relating to my physical body. So then, still in the dream, we practiced this, with me hiding in a spot and him 'psychically' searching for me. Then I woke up, and about 10 seconds after I woke, the bed jumped. This was not me falling back into my body or the normal twitches one gets between sleeping and waking. This was literally the bed hopping about a half inch off the floor with me completely awake at this point. I took it as a sign that I needed to remember the dream. ^_^

Anyway, that's me. Feel free to point and laugh, I won't blame you. ^_^

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[Briana]

I am not sure that I can explain it very well. Lets see....... I just feel uncomfortable visualizing a plunging cord going straight into the earth and sucking its energy and violently pulling it through my chakras. When I perform it I don't feel like its my energy entering me even though that I am well aware that I am part of nature whether I like it or not. Sort of like drilling for oil.. Does this make sense? maybe there are other ways of grounding without using the cord/roots visual?

Hmmm...when I ground thru my chakras, I don't pull from the earth (when I'm running energy or shielding I will pull from sun/moon/earth-depending on what I'm doing). I imagine each chakra colour (individually) going from crown to root, then I twist it so they are all connecting, then I send it deep into the earth an anchor it. Sometimes I imagine pulling on it and feeling the pull in my tail bone. But I have never pulled energy up from it.

I have tried lots of different grounding techniques till I found one that 'fit' for me...and I always keep an open mind and try new ways...I keep myself open to new ideas as they may work better. Initially when I was grounding to the center of the earth I had troubles with that. My 'logical' mind said that the center of the earth is molten lava therefore I couldn't anchor. I was finally able to change the visual to large rocks that my chakra cord could anchor around.

Don't know if that helps any...

Blessings,
Briana

[Dawa Lhamo]

Hmmm... never done that particular grounding technique.... I usually just visualize the extra energy sloughing off of me or streaming out of me, and then being absorbed by the ground (or whatever I'm grounding into)... No, I'll use a roots visualization (and usually it's with my feet, not necessarily chakras... with chakras I typically draw energy from the top downward) sometimes when I'm drawing energy for spellwork, but I've never used it for grounding... in fact, I hadn't heard of it. (Of course, I don't know that anyone's ever told me exactly how to ground, just that I should ground... ^_^ )

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[wooleybob]

Well.I seem to deal with alot with psychic vampires,that tend to cling to me.I protect myself from them by using a method of fingerlock,and visualize and affirm i am now energized,and fully protected by a bright impenetrable energy.I also use my quartz crystals.
I have had spell's and hex's sent to me.I have returned them to the people filled with love,and no harm to them done.
UPDATE: Sorry this might be long..
I guess I can add more to the story of this about Psychic Vampire's..I deal with ALOT of neg energy everyday now for over 3yrs..I try to portect my son,our house and myself to the best that I can do.I'll give a brief run down on what happen's (I dont want want to feel like an attention hog,by no means and sorry if I sound like one)..My life is full of crap everyday due to my ex-wife,I live day by day with things happen outta the blue..When I had left her and filed devorce with her, she just pops back into my life with trouble..I really dont like to say bad things about her,but only to speak the truth there is nothing more than I can say,she is VERY evil..And for me to say differant would make me a liar,and I am not one.When we were married,I was working as a paid Firefighter/EMT..My shifts were 24hrs on then 48hrs off,but still on call for major fire calls.For years i heard rumor's of here running around on me,and didnt want to belive it,till one day our children had come to me and told the truth.She was bringing men into our home and sold herself for more money.When I ended up confronting her she said yeah big deal,and a huge fight broke out(not physical).As we were having our argument a man came to the door..It was one she was sleeping with.Well to break it down,yes the guy and me got into it cause one daughter stepped in between us and he shoved her to the floor,yes I did wrong and not meaning to break his cheek bone with a punch.Wife calls police to try and have me arrested.The police came,I was friends with them all,cause we worked for the city and I wasnt the one who got taken away,I was wrong to hit him but no man in my eyes shoves kids around,or beats on women,thats just how I was raised.After all was over I told my wife its over,i'm leaving.We talked about the kid's and since I worked the shifts I did that she can have the kids with a couple stipulations.That she never lets people touch them,no drugs,and to take care of them,and I got to vist with them anytime I wanted,I told her I will give her $200.00 a week outta pay check.I packed my truck with just my personal things(clothes tools,gun's,and fishing things) Then left..I came everyday,sometimes in a firetruck just to make it fun for my son and took him to football practice.Well after a month and a half,of being gone,she puts a PFA on me,cause she was seeing a blackman..? The sheriff came to my work and served me.Now first i'm not a racial person,my chieff is black and so are some of the others at the station,and they knew I was not like that.The chief let us use his office,with him present and seen the serving of PFA..After all was done,I broke down and cried,the chief gave me a hug and said that the whole station will be at my hearing,I went to the truck bays and showed the guys the papers that she was scared for her life,and I had guns and would kill her cause she was with a blackman.The guys all wanted to go kick this guys butt and wanted to say a few words to the ex,that this is nothing but lie's..In court the guys all spoke for me and said I was no racial,and would not kill her cause she was with a blackman..I told the judge that I wanted the Pfa just so she felt safe,and to prove I would never do anything to harm her,and all I wanted was to be able to vist my kids..Well I never knew that when I agreed to a PFA I would lose my gun's,and visting rights.I was dumb for not getting a lawyer..After that PFA was up I got my gun's back.She has taken me back 4 more times to try and have a PFA on me again??..The judges said look lady,this guy is no threat why do you waste court time doing this,and was told a PFA is for someone who has done some kind of harm to someone,and I had done nothing of the sort.She lost.Now life has become a hell for me,I've been in court 48 times in three years..I ended up with custody of my son,cause she threw him to the streets in the winter with just shorts on,I had custody of one daughter,but she got sent away to a detention home,cause she was doing and selling drugs for her moms bf/pimp on vists..After she got released she was sleeping with older men,and was raped by a man in the army,who is now dead,due the war.She wanted to go back to mom and live because she didnt like the rules here of not seeing 30-40 yr old men at the age of 15..Because of all this crap going on back and forth in court,we have children and youth in both homes.So thats why I say I have alot of neg energy in and out my home,and can not keep it clear of evil.CYS is closing the case out but tied up paperwork,so that means once again back to court..This mont I ended up with custody of all my kids,because the moms strung on drugs and still gets pimped out by bf,and now I have to find a bigger place to move to so I can get the girls..I left things on the rant and rave thread about all this before..I just wanted to share this and sorry its long,but I really need this class to help me cope with all this going on,and I know its gonna keep up,cause the ex just pops thinks up to drive me nuts and keep chao's in my life,then backs out and laughs at what se does to us..Its childish and makes me sick...SORRY this is long..

[~Elise~]

I'm back--but have no power at the house due to a storm. I'll answer these posts as I can, my boss is in town all week doing some training with new sales people.

Elise

[wooleybob]

ok..yeah I seen ya got hit bad on the news

[Carickah]

ok..yeah I seen ya got hit bad on the news
Damn, slept right through it again....




k

[AstralMagick]

I'm not completely finished reading the posts, but it's very interesting.
The reason I joined this class was simply because I stumbled upon it when it was under 'New Posts'. Then when I went inside the sign up, I figured since I didn't really have much experience with defense I should try this.
I didn't join for this reason, but I've found that sometimes I get suddenly really scared. It doesn't happen often and it's always in places I wouldn't have thought had danger. Maybe I just get flashes of over-protectiveness of myself...

[Niamh celtic mist]

I have only used a spell to get a negative person out of my life once and I was 13 at the time. The strange thing is I did not know at the time I was practicing a form of magic. Looking back now..I don't know where the idea to do what I did came from...but I do remember having this information...this idea just popping in my head. I was being teased daily by a fellow classmate...everyday she would torment me...many days I would come home crying. One day after coming home from school this idea...but I had an inner feeling it would be a solution..I did the following.

I got a picture of her from a class picture...I cut her out of the picture. I took the cutout of her and placed it in a box ..I poured salt over it. I then wrapped string around it and took it into the cellar. I placed it in the darkest corner of the cellar and placed it there (.My parents cellar was filled with so much stuff..that the corner I chose was never used.) The whole time I was doing this I kept repeating to myself..I want her to leave me alone.

This worked! She never bothered me again. In fact there were a few times right after this that she approached me..and would like pause in front of as if she wanted to do or say something to me and she would get a puzzled look on her face ..but she would just move away!

It has taken me many years to find my path and when I first started my research it was then that I realized that what I had done all those years ago was a spell... :hrmm:

The reason I have joined this class is I would like to learn how to protect myself from psychic attack. It is something I have always wanted to learn...

[~Elise~]

I'm not ignoring y'all...promise...honest. Cable modem went on the fritz at home and we are working on it. Can't get on much during the day when boss is here...BUT I will be on for a bit this evening since I have to come back to work to let the Boy Scouts use the facility here.

Elise

[AstralMagick]

Does anybody have a light head,or feel weak if your not grounded fully?..I've had many day's like that..Maybe thats part of why things besides stress,are going flukey with me ???
I get a light head when I don't have enough sleep and it doesn't take much sleep loss for that to happen to me, otherwise I'm pretty much fine.

[Briana]

Does anybody have a light head,or feel weak if your not grounded fully?..I've had many day's like that..Maybe thats part of why things besides stress,are going flukey with me ???

I'm not sure if its the same thing, but when I feel 'out of balance' (I can't run energy well) then I know I'm not grounded, shields have weakened and I have alot of 'things' floating around in my fields (usually sucking energy). I am frequently tired.

[~Elise~]

I am not sure that I can explain it very well. Lets see....... I just feel uncomfortable visualizing a plunging cord going straight into the earth and sucking its energy and violently pulling it through my chakras. When I perform it I don't feel like its my energy entering me even though that I am well aware that I am part of nature whether I like it or not. Sort of like drilling for oil.. Does this make sense? maybe there are other ways of grounding without using the cord/roots visual?

That is quite a description, SR...that would feel invasive to me, as well. But, plunging a cord into the Earth and sucking the energy isn't how that grounding works. There are ways to do it by sending love and energy down the thread/cord or you can send your yucky stuff down the cord to the Earth and letting it transform it into what She needs for healing/growth and letting Her send back to you what it is that you need. It is an exchange not a violent pulling or taking of what you need.

Rick just came up with a great analogy as he is reading over my shoulder...it is like plugging into a wall socket and recharging your batteries.

I will post a grounding exercise that doesn't use cords however when we get to that point.

Elise

[~Elise~]

I have only used a spell to get a negative person out of my life once and I was 13 at the time. The strange thing is I did not know at the time I was practicing a form of magic. Looking back now..I don't know where the idea to do what I did came from...but I do remember having this information...this idea just popping in my head. I was being teased daily by a fellow classmate...everyday she would torment me...many days I would come home crying. One day after coming home from school this idea...but I had an inner feeling it would be a solution..I did the following.

I got a picture of her from a class picture...I cut her out of the picture. I took the cutout of her and placed it in a box ..I poured salt over it. I then wrapped string around it and took it into the cellar. I placed it in the darkest corner of the cellar and placed it there (.My parents cellar was filled with so much stuff..that the corner I chose was never used.) The whole time I was doing this I kept repeating to myself..I want her to leave me alone.

This worked! She never bothered me again. In fact there were a few times right after this that she approached me..and would like pause in front of as if she wanted to do or say something to me and she would get a puzzled look on her face ..but she would just move away!

It has taken me many years to find my path and when I first started my research it was then that I realized that what I had done all those years ago was a spell... :hrmm:

The reason I have joined this class is I would like to learn how to protect myself from psychic attack. It is something I have always wanted to learn...

That's a great instinctive spell that you did.

When we're finished, you should be able to mount a good defense against attacks, if you do the exercises.

Elise

[~Elise~]

Does anybody have a light head,or feel weak if your not grounded fully?..I've had many day's like that..Maybe thats part of why things besides stress,are going flukey with me ???

Yes, that could be one of the side effects of not being grounded... that spacey feeling can be a good indication that you need to ground or regroup. If you can stay grounded, stress won't get to you as easily.

Elise

[~Elise~]

Okay--I said I would post something about shielding from incubus/succubus...but to be honest -- once we do the grounding and shielding that will help...what is going to give the most help will be when I cover banishing and protection.

Elise

[~Elise~]

Okay--there are 25 of y'all signed up for this class and most have posted in this thread--we are missing 7 of you. We want your input please. Don't make me name names.

I'm very impressed that most have already posted in the thread! We are doing some great exchanges already.

Elise

[wooleybob]

Question: the last 2 day's I've had 2-3 crows in my front yard in the morning.They all caah for a few min's..I was told years ago that this is a message?..Is this true? I'm looking in my books and come across a few meaning's from good news to bad,or even death?..Anyone know for sure?..they were not here this morning,I looked and didnt hear anything?So was this a message of some sort?

[AstralMagick]

Question: the last 2 day's I've had 2-3 crows in my front yard in the morning.They all caah for a few min's..I was told years ago that this is a message?..Is this true? I'm looking in my books and come across a few meaning's from good news to bad,or even death?..Anyone know for sure?..they were not here this morning,I looked and didnt hear anything?So was this a message of some sort?
I have heard many things of crows as well. I've got many crows around my neighborhood that caw, but I haven't really paid attention to if it means anything or not.

[Dawa Lhamo]

hmmm... usually when I'm not grounded, I get hyperactive, almost like I'm drunk. ^_^ It's excess energy that needs to run off of me, since I don't typically use my own energy for anything... This hyperactivity has only been pronounced twice, though. Once, probably 10 years ago and once around Thanksgiving 2003.

As for lots of crows, well a good mundane answer is just that crows are a common bird and they are well adapted to living around people. Perhaps they're nesting nearby? Or perhaps you're a good source of shiny things; crows are attracted to shiny objects... If you're absolutely convinced that there's a magical reason, then perhaps someone you know just died or is going to? If they're now gone, then perhaps they were warning of something risky to someone's life, but now that risk has passed? I don't know... I'm not one to see omens everywhere, so I haven't paid that much attention to that kind of divination...

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

[Bix]

Does anybody have a light head,or feel weak if your not grounded fully?..I've had many day's like that..Maybe thats part of why things besides stress,are going flukey with me ???
I've found that I get horrible headaches if I don't ground properly for meditative work.

[Briana]

Question: the last 2 day's I've had 2-3 crows in my front yard in the morning.They all caah for a few min's..I was told years ago that this is a message?..Is this true? I'm looking in my books and come across a few meaning's from good news to bad,or even death?..Anyone know for sure?..they were not here this morning,I looked and didnt hear anything?So was this a message of some sort?

My friend has had Raven come into her life in the last several months (too much so to be a coincident). I have read that Crow and Raven are very similar. Yes, you do have the old wives tales of potents for death...but I think of those as old wives tales. Raven signifies Magick (and she recently has had experiences she's never had). And then there is always the posibility of Shamanic 'Ravens Death' to get to the next level. One good book I have is Ted Andrews book. You basically want to look at the animal, how they live, etc. My friend is studying my book right now or I could give you a synopsis. However, check out this website:

http://www.wicca.com/celtic/wyldkat/anmlintro.htm and look under 'Animal Symbology'.

Crow/Rook: Crows and rooks symbolize resourcefulness, survival, death, a call to the magick and the mystery around us, the law, the supernatural, the mysteries of creation, shape-shifting, change, harmony, justice, integrity, bad omens, boldness, skill, cunning, prophecy, eloquence and divination. They are tricksters connected to Morrigan, Varuna, Rhea Kronia, Apollo, Macha and Babd.

Blessings,
Briana

[~Elise~]

Crows also have a numerical symbology:

# of crows
1. Sorrow
2. Joy
3. Wedding
4. Birth

5. Gold ?
6. Silver ?

after this I get a bit fuzzy...it's out on the web though, I'm sure.

I used to get LOTS of crows in twos and threes...within 6 months...well, just look at my signature...I'm getting handfasted.

Elise

[Carickah]

# of crows
2. Joy
3. Wedding


I used to get LOTS of crows in twos and threes...within 6 months...well, just look at my signature...I'm getting handfasted.

Elise

:viking: :smileroll :abanana: _handclapp :D :clapping: :dancy: :nonono: :bouncysmi




You know what tune this guy is rockin' to, don't ya... hehehe _twohorns_





k

[AstralMagick]

Just a little while ago, last hour during my Japanese class, I had this sudden feeling of someone unwanted was touching me, but there was nobody was there...this was the biggest experience I can remember that I'd have wanted to know some defense, though it wasn't extremely great. I still feel like I'm being watched or something. I'm glad I've now joined this class because I'd like to get rid of this 'shadow'.

[~Elise~]

:viking: :smileroll :abanana: _handclapp :D :clapping: :dancy: :nonono: :bouncysmi




You know what tune this guy is rockin' to, don't ya... hehehe _twohorns_





k
Wild Thing? :hairraise

:ballonsmi

Elise

[~Elise~]

Just a little while ago, last hour during my Japanese class, I had this sudden feeling of someone unwanted was touching me, but there was nobody was there...this was the biggest experience I can remember that I'd have wanted to know some defense, though it wasn't extremely great. I still feel like I'm being watched or something. I'm glad I've now joined this class because I'd like to get rid of this 'shadow'.
Banishing it is a bit later on...but for now, surround yourself with a circle of whatever color means protection to you. Remember to cover your head and the bottoms of your feet, as well.

Elise

[~Macha~]

Question-
Could someone pleaseexplain empathic/emotional vampires? I think I might work with one... And do they know they are, oris just an inherint (sp?) thing they have?

[~Elise~]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/Careers/02/15/co.workers/index.html

Here is AN answer to your question.

Now--do most realize what they are doing, NO. Do some realize it...yes, and they revel in it. There are paths that are dedicated to taking other's energies.

Just stay away from them as much as possible...I ward my work space to keep those people away from me. Works too.

Elise

[AstralMagick]

Banishing it is a bit later on...but for now, surround yourself with a circle of whatever color means protection to you. Remember to cover your head and the bottoms of your feet, as well.

Elise
Thanks. Things like this have never before happened to me (I suppose because I'm fairly new to the Craft?), so I'm really pretty clueless. I've been pretty jittery all day since though.

[~Elise~]

Thanks. Things like this have never before happened to me (I suppose because I'm fairly new to the Craft?), so I'm really pretty clueless. I've been pretty jittery all day since though.

I remember what it was like first time it happened to me...I didn't like much, either.

Don't worry, it will go away...we will make it do so.

Elise

[AstralMagick]

I remember what it was like first time it happened to me...I didn't like much, either.

Don't worry, it will go away...we will make it do so.

Elise
I'm kind of surprised something like that happened, as I haven't had any such experiences as many of you have had.

[~Elise~]

I sent PMs to the ones who haven't posted yet...they have until the weekend to post.

Elise

[Tabby]

Please post some experiences that you've had in the past where you think that Magical Self Defense would have helped you.

What have you done in the past? What has worked for you? What hasn't worked?

What is that you're wanting to come away with from this class?

I know I'm starting this a day early...but we will go through the 13th of May on this thread.

Elise

Let's see, I've had several experiences. Last summer I woke up and it felt like someone was sitting on my chest. I had a horrible ringing in my ears and one of my cats was hissing at something I couldn't see. I was short of breath and it felt like I was going to suffocate. I got online with two of my friends and together they helped reinforce my shields. I went to see them and they helped me to find out what was wrong, helped me to understand how to strengthen my shields and since they have a tightly warded house, it helped me rest.

That is probably the strongest experience I've had. What I want to learn from this class is how to tell what is happening before it gets so bad that it takes that much energy from me before I can stop it.

[wooleybob]

I have a question,it might sound dumb.
My question is: Is there a way to keep your shield up,or something you may cast,to protect you in your sleep?..Reason why I'm asking,is as I sleep I expereance the negative,and evil from people or something..Its like a battle of minds as I sleep,I feel drained,tired,and cranky,moody when I wake up in the morning,thus taking it out on people and dont mean too.The dreams feel so real,that its like I'm awake..I'll give an example..I know my oldest daughter is into Black Magick,my ex-wife lets her do it,and I oppose to it,I know my ex has had my daughter cast things my way,because I was told it was,like I was asked do you feel sick,do you hurt,or something bad happen today?..All asked in a cocky question,act the dumb role way.I feel like(yes i'm a wise crack) that my life is like the show Charmed..Good vs Evil type way(,No not like how they do it on the tv show with demons popping up everywhere),but in a state of mind game battles..No one win's or loose.Thus this goes on in my sleep..
(Ok..now you think i'm a crack pot..lol)

[~Elise~]

I have a question,it might sound dumb.
My question is: Is there a way to keep your shield up,or something you may cast,to protect you in your sleep?..Reason why I'm asking,is as I sleep I expereance the negative,and evil from people or something..Its like a battle of minds as I sleep,I feel drained,tired,and cranky,moody when I wake up in the morning,thus taking it out on people and dont mean too.The dreams feel so real,that its like I'm awake..I'll give an example..I know my oldest daughter is into Black Magick,my ex-wife lets her do it,and I oppose to it,I know my ex has had my daughter cast things my way,because I was told it was,like I was asked do you feel sick,do you hurt,or something bad happen today?..All asked in a cocky question,act the dumb role way.I feel like(yes i'm a wise crack) that my life is like the show Charmed..Good vs Evil type way(,No not like how they do it on the tv show with demons popping up everywhere),but in a state of mind game battles..No one win's or loose.Thus this goes on in my sleep..
(Ok..now you think i'm a crack pot..lol)

You're not a crackpot...and yes, with intent there is a way to keep your shields up 24/7.

Elise

[~Elise~]

Okay--let's end this one up...we will start the new lesson tomorrow! Woohoo!

I am recovering from a bit of a shock...I got laid off on Friday...so, am scrambling to figure out how to be able to move and all since my lease is up at the end of the month.

Elise

[Briana]

Okay--let's end this one up...we will start the new lesson tomorrow! Woohoo!

I am recovering from a bit of a shock...I got laid off on Friday...so, am scrambling to figure out how to be able to move and all since my lease is up at the end of the month.

Elise

WOW...I'm so sorry! That really bites! Maybe the god/goddess have something much better planned for you!

Speaking for myself...take your time! Delay the class until you feel more sorted (last minute uprooting of both job and home must be horrible). Your living comes first.

Many Blessings,
Briana

[KissMeImIrish!]

Sorry for the delay! I've just finished dealing with a major upset in my life, and wasn't physically able to get to a computer. If possible, I would like to share my experience now :)
I haven't had experience with psychic attacks from people per se, but I have experienced what I call "bad entities". I posted about a week ago about one particular entity that "attacks" me at night, which i experience on a regular basis. I have tried shielding (although i must say i am not trained at all in it, I just envision myself surrounded by a "shield" of light, something i read in a book somewhere) but the entity is rather strong. It gives off a feeling of utter horror, to the point where I can't shake it off even after turning on the lights (which in itself is a srtuggle). Recently, I have taken to burning lavendar incense and holding enpowered amythest crystals to aid in sleep (i suffer from mild insomnia due to these "attacks"), and haven't had any experiences in almost a month. However it does attack on a monthly basis, and if it stays true to it's course, then it will probably be visiting soon. I would like to learn to protect myself efficiently from these attacks, as as of now I cannot repel them. I have never had any formal training in psychic protection because until now I've felt I've really never needed it. Im tired of being a victim, it's time to figure this thing out! I hope to come away with some effective tools from this course to not only protect me from my dark assailant, but also from other more mundane baddies I may encounter in the big world.
Thank you for you patience and understanding about the late posting,
KMII

[KissMeImIrish!]

pearls59,
I know exactly what your going through! blessings and may the goddess watch over you. :huddle:

[~Elise~]

Sorry for the delay! I've just finished dealing with a major upset in my life, and wasn't physically able to get to a computer. If possible, I would like to share my experience now :)
I haven't had experience with psychic attacks from people per se, but I have experienced what I call "bad entities". I posted about a week ago about one particular entity that "attacks" me at night, which i experience on a regular basis. I have tried shielding (although i must say i am not trained at all in it, I just envision myself surrounded by a "shield" of light, something i read in a book somewhere) but the entity is rather strong. It gives off a feeling of utter horror, to the point where I can't shake it off even after turning on the lights (which in itself is a srtuggle). Recently, I have taken to burning lavendar incense and holding enpowered amythest crystals to aid in sleep (i suffer from mild insomnia due to these "attacks"), and haven't had any experiences in almost a month. However it does attack on a monthly basis, and if it stays true to it's course, then it will probably be visiting soon. I would like to learn to protect myself efficiently from these attacks, as as of now I cannot repel them. I have never had any formal training in psychic protection because until now I've felt I've really never needed it. Im tired of being a victim, it's time to figure this thing out! I hope to come away with some effective tools from this course to not only protect me from my dark assailant, but also from other more mundane baddies I may encounter in the big world.
Thank you for you patience and understanding about the late posting,
KMII

I don't want to get too personal BUT since this happening on a monthly basis, does it coincide with your female cycle? What is the connection, do you think?

Elise

[KissMeImIrish!]

I don't want to get too personal BUT since this happening on a monthly basis, does it coincide with your female cycle? What is the connection, do you think?

Elise

You know I never noticed the connection, so I can't really say. I'm going to be aware for the next occurance, and see if i can draw some conclusions. The worst time of attacks was about 6 months ago when the entity visited two nights in a row. Thats around the time when I started suffering from insomnia. It was much more intense then than it has been lately, as I havent had a visit in a couple months maybe. My sleep troubles have lightened up a bit too. I've taken some advice from other mwers here, and purified my bedroom and hung up several charms, etc. So far so good. But it's more of a sense of waiting than a sense of dispelling the entity.

I ignored the whole aspect of psychic attacks/protection because I never 'had' anything happen to me. But I think if i know more, it will useful for prevention, before anything else actuallydoes happen.

[wooleybob]

Okay--let's end this one up...we will start the new lesson tomorrow! Woohoo!

I am recovering from a bit of a shock...I got laid off on Friday...so, am scrambling to figure out how to be able to move and all since my lease is up at the end of the month.

Elise
So sorry to hear..Hope all works for the better..I'm sure the Goddess/Gods have greater plans for you..Take as much time you need for the class,we will all be here for you..So take your time.. :hugz:

[~Elise~]

Thanks, Wooleybob--we will be moving on to Lesson 2 probably a little later this evening. I have a few things to do, with a couple of meetings and all, today.

Elise

[AstralMagick]

I'm not sure if I put the banner in my signature right, so I'll try and see...I've got no graphics experiences what-so-ever, even if it is already made...

[enchancea]

I actually cant recall any times, maybe after this class Ill be more aware of times that it will help me

[~Macha~]

Just stay away from them as much as possible...I ward my work space to keep those people away from me. Works too.


I would if I could... but it's a small resturant, and we all have to be "helpful" to one another to "preserve a happy and family like atmospher among the staff". And... I don't know who it is!!!

[~Elise~]

you probably do know who they are and don't realize it. Who is the person that you dread to have come near you or sit with you on breaks? Who is the person that sucks the life out of a situation? who is the drama queen or king? Everything always happens to them?

Elise

[RavensEye]

I just want to let you know Pearl i am so glad this class is up in the past few days have been really bad, and well lets just say with this class I hope the people involved will finally get the hint to back off because they just do not listen to reason other wise, and it has been this way for years now. It seems the past is about to rear its ungly heard again.

[yemayashija]

hello all,

tahnk you for allowing me to join. i read the original post, and as my response i will say that i use magickal self defense probably more so than anything else right now. recently, for example i was having a problem with my superiors at work because of personal differences unrelated to job performance with my direct supervisor. in response i decided it was best for me to utilize my warriors to fight for me, but even these could use a little boost. so i did a little spell to bend my superior and kept her under my influence. utilizing several essencial oils, brown paper and a few miscellaneous powders. needless to say things are much better for me, and my direct supervisor has been out of the way and unable to do further slander.

yemayashija

[~Elise~]

I just want to let you know Pearl i am so glad this class is up in the past few days have been really bad, and well lets just say with this class I hope the people involved will finally get the hint to back off because they just do not listen to reason other wise, and it has been this way for years now. It seems the past is about to rear its ungly heard again.


I hate it when the past rears its head...nothing good normally comes from it. I will send some protection your way to help with matters.

Elise

[RavensEye]

thanks .

And you know what happend tonight we just got home from a walk to the convience store and all my kids were walking with us we sat down on the bench that is front of the conveince store, and this guy approached he said hi. Immediatley I spread my arms out to make sure my son was not going to run off, and my left to protect the other two girls. it was like a fan turned upside down and I felt the energy between my arms spreading to them.

Sakura immediatly began to play shy and I took that as my cue, and Sylvan was so still and I was so proud, no arguements from him. The guy got annoyed with becuase I did not say hi My hubby said dear I finally said hi and I then just ignored him after that totally focussing on Sakura and then enough was enough of this guy ws not right and the aolcohol was not all that was wrong. Ifelt it something was tugging at me. I asked Sakura if she had to go potty cause she was burrowing into my coat as far as she could go and she siad yes so I picked her up and Slyvan walked with me toward the store I called for Cloey, but she did not hear me.

Before I left I think that what irked me the most was he grabbed my hubbys arm and i was ready to punch. But i focussed on the kids instead.

Anwyas after we started to walk to the store Sakura began acting her self laughing and excited, but what was more itneresting was the fact she did not scream and run back to daddy like she has been known to do, when we walk away from him. I was so mad that my hubby ws still there but anyways I went into the store and took Sakura to the wash room.

I was so sick to my stomach I did not even want to eat and I told my husband that to. he told me the guy held Cloeys hand and that she commented that she felt his energy go into her hand. It is the first time she has ever commented on it to us.

So on the way home we explained to Cloey how to defend herself nd protect herself physcially and not pyshcially. I also find it intersting we had a moment here at home before we left where the kids were wrestling my husband and Cloey was taught how to defend herself by restraint and using a nerve poitn in the hand and wrist. I commented to Cloey if she paid any atttention to daddy doing it to the guy that was botethering us and she said she did not notice but when we explaiend it to her and it all seemed to click for her. My husband and I explained to her how to relfect back the persons energy and she had to think about it for a moment and said that made sense to.

Anyways I had to take some time to calm down and I am still feeling a bit worked up about it even though it has been almost and our and half sicne it happend. All I could think about when we were in the store and walking on the way home was dam I am glad that this class is here and that I am glad I am taking it.

on the way home I realized I was protecint our back by having a black trail follow behind us with a paint brush type swishing back and forth like it was covering our path I foudn that weird.

Anywas had to share tha twith you to get this off my chest and mind.i am still shivering so I am going to go ground myself.

[~Elise~]

thanks .

And you know what happend tonight we just got home from a walk to the convience store and all my kids were walking with us we sat down on the bench that is front of the conveince store, and this guy approached he said hi. Immediatley I spread my arms out to make sure my son was not going to run off, and my left to protect the other two girls. it was like a fan turned upside down and I felt the energy between my arms spreading to them.

Sakura immediatly began to play shy and I took that as my cue, and Sylvan was so still and I was so proud, no arguements from him. The guy got annoyed with becuase I did not say hi My hubby said dear I finally said hi and I then just ignored him after that totally focussing on Sakura and then enough was enough of this guy ws not right and the aolcohol was not all that was wrong. Ifelt it something was tugging at me. I asked Sakura if she had to go potty cause she was burrowing into my coat as far as she could go and she siad yes so I picked her up and Slyvan walked with me toward the store I called for Cloey, but she did not hear me.

Before I left I think that what irked me the most was he grabbed my hubbys arm and i was ready to punch. But i focussed on the kids instead.

Anwyas after we started to walk to the store Sakura began acting her self laughing and excited, but what was more itneresting was the fact she did not scream and run back to daddy like she has been known to do, when we walk away from him. I was so mad that my hubby ws still there but anyways I went into the store and took Sakura to the wash room.

I was so sick to my stomach I did not even want to eat and I told my husband that to. he told me the guy held Cloeys hand and that she commented that she felt his energy go into her hand. It is the first time she has ever commented on it to us.

So on the way home we explained to Cloey how to defend herself nd protect herself physcially and not pyshcially. I also find it intersting we had a moment here at home before we left where the kids were wrestling my husband and Cloey was taught how to defend herself by restraint and using a nerve poitn in the hand and wrist. I commented to Cloey if she paid any atttention to daddy doing it to the guy that was botethering us and she said she did not notice but when we explaiend it to her and it all seemed to click for her. My husband and I explained to her how to relfect back the persons energy and she had to think about it for a moment and said that made sense to.

Anyways I had to take some time to calm down and I am still feeling a bit worked up about it even though it has been almost and our and half sicne it happend. All I could think about when we were in the store and walking on the way home was dam I am glad that this class is here and that I am glad I am taking it.

on the way home I realized I was protecint our back by having a black trail follow behind us with a paint brush type swishing back and forth like it was covering our path I foudn that weird.

Anywas had to share tha twith you to get this off my chest and mind.i am still shivering so I am going to go ground myself.

It's never too young to teach your children to defend themselves and it's good you're doing that.

I like the tail idea wiping the path behind you clean.

Elise

[RavensEye]

It's never too young to teach your children to defend themselves and it's good you're doing that.

I like the tail idea wiping the path behind you clean.
Thanks it was interesting casue I really did not realize I was doing it until I foccussed on what was kind of in the back o rint he fornt of my mind it is hard to explain but it was a strong visual. And yes I want to make sure that my kids do not have to go through the experinces I did as mentioned in this thread at lest without being preapred.

[wooleybob]

thanks .

And you know what happend tonight we just got home from a walk to the convience store and all my kids were walking with us we sat down on the bench that is front of the conveince store, and this guy approached he said hi. Immediatley I spread my arms out to make sure my son was not going to run off, and my left to protect the other two girls. it was like a fan turned upside down and I felt the energy between my arms spreading to them.

Sakura immediatly began to play shy and I took that as my cue, and Sylvan was so still and I was so proud, no arguements from him. The guy got annoyed with becuase I did not say hi My hubby said dear I finally said hi and I then just ignored him after that totally focussing on Sakura and then enough was enough of this guy ws not right and the aolcohol was not all that was wrong. Ifelt it something was tugging at me. I asked Sakura if she had to go potty cause she was burrowing into my coat as far as she could go and she siad yes so I picked her up and Slyvan walked with me toward the store I called for Cloey, but she did not hear me.

Before I left I think that what irked me the most was he grabbed my hubbys arm and i was ready to punch. But i focussed on the kids instead.

Anwyas after we started to walk to the store Sakura began acting her self laughing and excited, but what was more itneresting was the fact she did not scream and run back to daddy like she has been known to do, when we walk away from him. I was so mad that my hubby ws still there but anyways I went into the store and took Sakura to the wash room.

I was so sick to my stomach I did not even want to eat and I told my husband that to. he told me the guy held Cloeys hand and that she commented that she felt his energy go into her hand. It is the first time she has ever commented on it to us.

So on the way home we explained to Cloey how to defend herself nd protect herself physcially and not pyshcially. I also find it intersting we had a moment here at home before we left where the kids were wrestling my husband and Cloey was taught how to defend herself by restraint and using a nerve poitn in the hand and wrist. I commented to Cloey if she paid any atttention to daddy doing it to the guy that was botethering us and she said she did not notice but when we explaiend it to her and it all seemed to click for her. My husband and I explained to her how to relfect back the persons energy and she had to think about it for a moment and said that made sense to.

Anyways I had to take some time to calm down and I am still feeling a bit worked up about it even though it has been almost and our and half sicne it happend. All I could think about when we were in the store and walking on the way home was dam I am glad that this class is here and that I am glad I am taking it.

on the way home I realized I was protecint our back by having a black trail follow behind us with a paint brush type swishing back and forth like it was covering our path I foudn that weird.

Anywas had to share tha twith you to get this off my chest and mind.i am still shivering so I am going to go ground myself.
I've done something like that,but did'nt use a brush method.I got a dead piece of a branch that had been on the ground and drag it behind me..Got looks and all but I didnt care..It wasnt a huge branch,just something small..And for as someone I feel uneasy about that trys to be nice and all,I focuse my energy in my hand shake and give a good squeeze and they say something like man you got a good grip,and the they must sence something and back away?..I dont know,but it has worked for me..

[RavensEye]

heheh I did not actually have brush I just saw it in my visualisation as it was sweeping or swishing back and forth behind me :)

[Hazel BlueMoon]

Please post some experiences that you've had in the past where you think that Magical Self Defense would have helped you.

What have you done in the past? What has worked for you? What hasn't worked?

What is that you're wanting to come away with from this class?

I know I'm starting this a day early...but we will go through the 13th of May on this thread.

Elise

Probably with my mother, when I lived with her, I could have used Magickal Self Defense against her negative spirit.
Not that I can remember, I haven't used Magickal Self Defense, because I wasn't sure how, and I didn't want to make the situation any worse.
I want to learn what a witch's true enemy is, and if there even are any, and how I can defend myself, in case of an emergency.

[Devi]

Hi everyone
:ringaroun
This class is very interesting to me because I've always wondered what type of steps could be taken to shield myself from negative energies. This is something I've dealt with a lot in my life. Long ago when I was a young teenager I was told by someone reading my palm that I would need to protect myself from negative people because of my sensitivity to my environment. I always knew something was up because I am really affected by the energies of my environment but didn't understand what was going on till many years later. Recently, learning about my natal chart placements I again saw the need for protecting myself. I'm hoping to gain from this class this ability and hope it will help with with my social avoidance tendencies.


devi

[wooleybob]

Once it starts its gonna be very interesting I think,andvery helpful..

[Queenorivers]

i know im late but I SO want to join this class, is it possible?

[~Elise~]

I still have a waiting list of people to get in....you can follow along, if you want or join the next class.

Elise

[wooleybob]

Hope alls well with the planning Pearl.

[~Elise~]

Things are going well for the handfasting planning...Rick's kilt arrived today AND I got the top layer of the wedding cake ordered, as well.

Right now, I'm stressing over having enough money to move with next week. We have to be out of the house by next Sat. we supposed to start moving on Thurs...if I get enough for the first month's rent.

Elise

[wooleybob]

WOW..talk about stress..Good luck.. :hugz:

[~Elise~]

thanks...I'm teaching as much as I can to help raise money...Taught two Reiki L1 classes last weekend -- have a one-person Level 2 class this weekend...but -- hey, every little bit helps.

Elise