Question about the "Other' People/Garden of Eden

[Nightmelody]

I've run across this article many times :

http://www.paganlibrary.com/fundies/other_people.php

and I was wondering if there is a book or article that goes into this view of Genesis in more detail?

[Philbo]

I don't know of any other books, but that was a cool website to read.

[Luminessence]

Ooh... interesting idea. This is the first I've heard of it, though, so I don't have any information to give you.

[Ninjakitten]

I'm glad you posted this. I heard recently of Genesis being the story of the descendents of Adam, rather than the story of the whole human race. I don't know of any books on it, but you just helped me on my search.

[Meadhbh]

I've heard that and I've that thing before. When you think of it, it makes sense in a way. For one thing I've only heard of Adam and Eve having sons and unless China was around to make men pregnant there would be a real problem when it came to future generations of the human race.

[Ninjakitten]

I've heard that and I've that thing before. When you think of it, it makes sense in a way. For one thing I've only heard of Adam and Eve having sons and unless China was around to make men pregnant there would be a real problem when it came to future generations of the human race.


Yeah. Godde didn't quite make us immune to the whole inbreeding genetic deficiencies when your population isn't genetically diverse enough. It's hard to make the point that all humans came from one set of humans, though I can see how similar Creation stories could all be somewhat true. They have nationality tests (I forget what they're really called) that test your mitochondrial DNA (the DNA that doesn't change or get mutated much after many generations) that can tell you if you have, for example, Plains Native American DNA, Northern European DNA, etc. Makes you wonder (well, me anyways) if maybe the Bible is more right on some things than we thought, and we simply conveniently read everything completely wrong the whole time. Then again, given the points made in the article, the Godde I grew up with and refined my definitions of may not even be my Godde after all since I'm not Jewish, though somehow Jesus is supposed to be for all mankind. Oy vay! The pondering of the Divine. Might even put holes in the theory that all paths lead to one Divine. Could actually be all paths lead to different Divines for different nationalities. Going to go read my Bible now :reading: :bangyourh

[Luminessence]

Then again, given the points made in the article, the Godde I grew up with and refined my definitions of may not even be my Godde after all since I'm not Jewish, though somehow Jesus is supposed to be for all mankind.

Well, from what I've heard, Saint Paul was the first one to spread the idea that Jesus was for all mankind - originally he was seen as only for the Jews. And in my opinion, Paul did a lot of damage to the Christian religion, putting forth ideas that Jesus never intended... So who knows, maybe Jesus was only supposed to be for the Jews all along. Who knows? :awilly:

[Gen]

That's a funny article. I've heard versions of that idea here and there, but I wouldn't be able to point you to further information offhand.

He never says how the Jehovah's Witnesses took his theory...

[Ninjakitten]

Well, from what I've heard, Saint Paul was the first one to spread the idea that Jesus was for all mankind - originally he was seen as only for the Jews. And in my opinion, Paul did a lot of damage to the Christian religion, putting forth ideas that Jesus never intended... So who knows, maybe Jesus was only supposed to be for the Jews all along. Who knows? :awilly:


I think Acts might say something about it, too, but I'll have to look it up. I certainly DEFINITELY share your opinion on Paul, though. He was a Pharasee in Christian's clothing. He either couldn't shed the Pharasee attitude in him when he became a Christian, or he deliberately tried to destroy Christianity from the inside to make it everything Christ didn't want. I want to believe it is the former of the two, but it's hard to really know. Unfortunately, he is where most modern Christians get their doctrines from, even when they do directly contradict what Christ taught.

[IvyWitch]

I'm probably the odd man out here, but I absolutely hate that article. It's author really demonstrates a huge lack of understanding of Christianity and the Bible. Not only that, but the author goes to great lengths to be obnoxious and vilifying towards Christianity. A long time ago I wrote a respone/refuation of the article, but I'm not sure where it is. I foam at the mouth everytime I see this article.

[Viseux]

_catroll_

[Nightmelody]

I did not particularly like the tone of the article but I thought it was written to be over the top for humor. I was interested about some of his views on the Garden of Eden story, and wondered if there might be a more serious study on that.