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Euphoria
October 21st, 2001, 07:22 PM
Ok someone asked in another thread (i think it was Silver Venus) for a thread on the Goddess Bast so here it is lol

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Bast comes from the Kemetic religion, a beliefs system that for many years was traditionally typecast as polytheistic in nature. Recent modern research has questioned this label, and the Egyptological community today is now vastly under the opinion that the Kemetic religion was, keeping with most indigenous African religions, "monolatrous" -- meaning one god who can take on multiple faces (the One and the Many).

Some people question the categorization of ancient Egypt as a monolatry because it would seem to be so obviously polytheistic. People who purport that ancient Egyptian religion is polytheistic are actually half correct -- however, numerous references to deity in the singular and to priests priding themselves on knowing the "Names of Netjer" point toward more than just a polytheistic categorization of the religion, which is where the term monolatry comes into use. One God with multiple faces .

Because Kemet was absorbed by the Roman Empire (which was polytheistic) and encountered by the Greeks before even that (who were also polytheistic), and because for over a thousand years the hieroglyphic language was lost, it is easy to see why it has been miscategorized. However, just as one could not fairly call the religion of Yoruba or the Hindu religion polytheistic, so also one would not--when dealing with pre-Graeco-Roman Egypt--do the same with Kemetic religion. It is extremely important when studying ancient Egypt to differentiate between the time when Egypt was held by foreign powers--the Late Period on--and when it was not. Culturally, religiously, and structurally, the differences are readily apparent--enough so that Egypt may as well have been two different countries entirely: the land of the native Pharaohs, and the land of the foreign rulers.

Finally, while Bast is one of the better-known and visible Goddesses of Netjer, She is also part of a magnificent and complex composite. This is a fact that should be kept in mind throughout the course of reading this. People who have had a problem grasping ancient Egyptian religion and its seemingly confusing flurry of myriad, over-lapping concepts may also find that their view of the theology has changed with this new understanding of how it was most likely viewed by the ancient Egyptians themselves.

When dealing with something as enduring as Bast, it's easy to forget just how old She really is. Since She has been dated to at least the Second Dynasty, this means She predates the following events:

The founding of America.
The Industrial and French Revolution.
The European Crusades.
The Dark and Feudal Ages of all the major world cultures.
Muhammad as the Prophet of Allah.
The Roman Empire's fall.
Christ and the Apostles.
The Roman Empire's rise.
Alexander the Great.
The Trojan War.
Lao-tzu, Confucius, and Buddha.
Ramses, Tutankhamen, Akhenaten, Thutmose III, and Hatshepsut.
The building of the Pyramids, Khaefra (Cheops), Senefru.

If you sit back and think about it, this means She has existed--in name--just under five millennia. This is an awesomely vast amount of time, making Her one of the oldest Goddesses in existence.

Bast is most commonly depicted as a woman with the head of either a cat, a lion, or a large desert cat. Note that these desert cats, ferocious in fury and strength, were not the domesticates as we would know them; this was the feral desert cat from which the Kemetics would breed cats similar to our own pets. Except in one Ramesside depiction where She is syncretized with Mut (Mut-Bast), Bast is never shown fully human.

Most importantly, Bast was not depicted with the domesticated cat imagery that has now become synonymous with Her until 1000 BCE -- nearly two thousand years after Her worship began. Previous to that, the cat was considered "beneath" representation except in rare cases involving Mafdet (in the Pyramid Texts) and Ra. In the Litany of the Sun, seventy-five names of Ra are mentioned, along with His seventy-five corresponding forms. Two of those names are cats -- Miuty and Miu-Oa or "The Great Male Cat". While Bast is perhaps better known as a domesticate, Her representation as a lion or desert cat did not cease with the advent of Bast-as-a-housecat. Images of Bast as a lion-headed figure holding a was-scepter (from the Hall of Osorkon at Bubastis) or with a lion's mane and holding the Eye of Ra can be found throughout Egyptian art from the Late Period on. Bast is even shown in one particular Late Period depiction as wearing the Double Crown (the red and the white "nested" together) and suckling the Pharaoh --perhaps an allusion to the rise of popularity with Per-Bast or Bubastis, the Domain of Bast. Additionally, there is no reason to believe that the lion device on the aegis wielded by the cat-headed Bast is not in fact a second representation of Her (a concept not unknown to Kemetic art and symbology).

Bast is often shown holding the ankh or the papyrus wand, and sometimes the was-scepter (usually only in connection to Bubastis, which was the home of Her cult). The papyrus wand is a significant and slightly baffling item for Her to be holding, as this item usually signifies a "first" or primordial god such as Ma'at and Tefnut (both of Whom are daughters of Ra and Tem, respectively). This may provide a tantalizing clue as to Bast's suspicious lack of representation in common Egyptian mythology, and may connect Her to Tefnut, Who, like Bast, is also the Eye of Tem-Ra and depicted with a feline head.

Bast's sacred city in Kemet was Per-Bast (Greek: Bubastis; modern-day Tell Basta, near Zagazig in Northern (Lower) Egypt). Per-Bast translates into "the Domain of Bast" and has been excavated numerous times since Edourard Naville first broke ground there in 1887. Details on Naville's excavation can be found in a set of extremely rare books entitled Bubastis, 1887-1889 and The Festival Hall of Osorkon II in the Great Temple of Bubastis, 1887-1889 by Edouard Naville. Both of these books have long been out of print, and are now outdated by the more recent (mid-1970s) excavation information put forth by the late Dr. Labib Habachi in his book, Tell-Basta (also out of print and difficult to acquire). Finds dating from all periods of Kemetic history have been made at the Tell-Basta site; a current mission recently unearthed war-offerings and other materials dating from King Ahmose of the 18th Dynasty.

Other cities where Bast was venerated (with approximate time of establishment of cult when possible) were:

Memphis (Old Kingdom), where She was associated strongly with Sekhmet (the lion-headed visage Het-hert takes on when She becomes the Eye of Ra).
Heliopolis (Old Kingdom), where She was the "Daughter of Tem" via a possible connection to Tefnut.
Herakleopolis (???), in a city called the "Hill of Bast".
Eastern Delta (???), "Ba-ir-Ra-st on the Waters of Ra".
Denderah (???), via Her connection to Het-hert. Denderah is referred to in some cases as the "Southern Bubastis"--an important implication as it would mean that the worship of Bast from early on was country-wide and not regional.
The Precinct of Mut in Thebes (New Kingdom), via Her connection to Mut.
Sais (Late Period), the city of Nit, where a statue of Bast existed.
Leontopolis (???), the city of Shu and Tefnut, at "'Ihy.n.B3s.t".
Cities in which festivals of Bast were celebrated included Thebes, Memphis, Bubastis, and Esna. It should be noted that contrary to some modern-day claims, there was no festival of Sekhmet-Bast-Ra to coincide with the modern-day Halloween.

Today, no shrines or temples remain of Bast in Egypt; even Bubastis was mostly ruins by the time Naville got around to it. There is a "Portal of Bast" on the Giza Plateau (fittingly, near the Sphinx), and statues have been discovered showing Khaefre accompanied by Her. A painting of Bast is present within the tomb of Nefertari at Abu Simbel, and dozens of bronze statues dating from the Late Period have been discovered amidst the cat cemetery found at Per-Bast. A Bast shrine on display is located in the Field Museum of Chicago; benches flank a small enclosure within which stands a statue of the seated cat and the cat-headed woman (both behind glass). This is perhaps as close as we can currently get in the modern day to a public shrine unto Her.

Bast is one of several Names who are known as the "Eye of Ra", a title that denotes a Name of Netjer Who functions as a protector or avenger. Since the earliest of times She has been associated with the king. Pyramid Texts 892 name Her next to the king as the, "Knowledge through which death cannot approach too closely." She also serves as his protector, a trait that is common in many other feline Names such as Mafdet--protector of Pharaoh's chambers--and Sekhmet--destroyer of the King's enemies.

As a regional Name associated with Per-Bast, Bast was strongly connected to the delta region of Kemet (referred to as Lower Egypt). Her initial role as the protector of the ruler spread out to children and pregnant women in later times as Her image became "softened" by Her associations with such Names as Het-hert [Greek: Hathor], Mut, and Aset [Greek: Isis]. She was also invoked in the hopes of bestowing fertility (perhaps due to the proliferation of cats themselves), and as She became more closely associated with Het-hert She also picked up many of that Netjert's associations, such as music and the arts.

The hieroglyphs for Bast are the jar-like symbol representing "bas" and the half-circle (a loaf of bread) standing for the feminine "-t" ending. The jar and two loaves of bread are the hieroglyphs for Bastet, the name she is goven when in full cat form .The bas-jars themselves are heavy vessels used to store perfume--one of the most valuable commodities of Kemet--and Bast Herself has relations to perfumery (a second translation of Her name is "Lady of the Ointments"). Contrary to claims made by Egyptologists at the beginning of the 1900's (as per E.A. Wallis Budge's The Gods of the Egyptians), Bast's name has nothing to do with "friction", "heat", or "fire".

Bast has been associated closely with Het-hert since the Old Kingdom; toward the Middle Kingdom, Bast also became associated with Mut and, even later, Aset (Greek: Isis). As well, just as images of Bast have been found in Memphis (the city of Sekhmet, Ptah, and Nefertem), images of Sekhmet have been found in Bubastis. As the Eye of Ra, Bast acts as His personal "hitman"--ripping out the hearts of the transgressors of ma'at and delivering them personally to His and the Pharaoh's feet.

As we can see, this is far from the "happy fluffy sex goddess" that has been set forth by the media and many modern-day religious institutions. This approach may not even be appropriate for the cat-goddess She became with the arrival of Hellenistic influence on Her society, and even if it was, it is fairly appropriate to say that this Hellenized version is no more Bast than processed Velveeta is really cheese. Defining the Egyptian Bast by the Greek and Roman worldview does not leave Her empowered to do the job She was originally allotted in the Kemetic theology.

While Bast and Sekhmet have been paired together since as early as 1850 BCE, their relationship is not along the lines of facets of a pacified/angry goddess. Bast's role as a "raging" goddess quickly discourages this notion, and even in the very later periods She was still depicted bearing the Uadjet and wearing Wadjet which would imply divine vengeance and the role of the divine avenger. Sekhmet is no more the "angry" side of Bast than Bast is the "pacified" side of Sekhmet; if any Egyptian deity occupies this role, it would be Het-hert, Who clearly becomes Sekhmet after She has gone forth to slaughter those who would disobey the will of the Creator (Ra or Tem). In regards to Sekhmet, another pairing that should be considered by those who wish to explore Her as the divine destroyer would be the one the ancient Egyptians themselves established by "marrying" Her to Ptah. In this union, the two compliment each other suitably as in Egyptian theology Ptah occupies a position of industrious craftsmanship and even creation of the world.

However, the fact remains that Bast and Sekhmet were paired. Bast was primarily a Northern god (since Her main place of worship was in Lower Egypt), while Sekhmet (as a form of Het-hert) was a Southern god. Just as Nekhbet and Wadjet are paired (Nekhbet being the vulture and Wadjet the royal cobra) as the Two Ladies, so Bast and Sekhmet are paired, one representing Lower Egypt (Bast) and the other representing Upper Egypt (Sekhmet). This is traditionally a "She of the North and She of the South" representation, and not necessarily a "She of the Content and She of the Really Ticked Off" kind.

Bast shares qualities of both Sekhmet and Het-hert in Her role as protector, destroyer, and avenger; witness the dozens of shields belonging to soldiers with Bast's device on them that have been unearthed in Egypt. However, at no time in the history of Kemetic religion were Sekhmet and Bast associated in a "sister-sister", "mother-daughter", "aunt-niece" or "big bad lioness/nice kitty" context. The phrase, "She rages as Sekhmet, She is pacified as Bast." is a fairly late one (150 BCE), and in specifying "Kemetic religion", one is implying the state of the theology previous to the Third Intermediate/Late Period.

A final note on the sisterhood issue -- while it might be convenient to put Sekhmet and Bast back-to-back as the lion/cat twins, keep in mind that sisters in ancient Egyptian theology were extremely important and rare occurences, and that Bast and Sekhmet in particular are never mentioned in this sort of relationship. Aset [Greek Isis] and Nebt-het [Greek Nephthys], Who are sisters, share a very distinctive relationship that carries through into Their iconography and depictions. Rarely do you see one without the other in funerary scenes, and there are numerous paired statues of the two as well as extant mythology relating Them as born of the same parents. The same is not true in antiquity with Bast and Sekhmet, aside from references of Ra as Their father -- a reference that rings true for nearly every ancient Egyptian goddess. If one is to understand the theology of Kemet, one would be wise to avoid instituting one's own presumptions onto the framework of the society. It is our duty, as responsible historians, to preserve and respect the wishes of those from whom we have inherited.

Ok i'm real sorry this was sooo long but i wanted to get Bast across as wholly as i could

Any questions or comments i will be happy to answer if i can that is

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PLEASE NOTE: Most of this information is not from my own knowledge and in fact from a site on bast ... http://www.per-bast.org/bast/ and the rest comes from a multitude of websites which i carelessly forgot to write down... This is not my own work

Silver Venus
October 28th, 2001, 02:50 PM
Euphoria that was brilliantly summarised and very informative for me. Im even more intrigued now :)
The Egyptian's are truly mysterious arent they, and although I havent really got into them or researched them much at all I do feel a strong connection to there imagery and symbols.
I'm quite tired tonight so when Ive got some time I will re-read your post and try to research Bast further.
Thank you very much.
Purrr
SV
:)

Avena
October 29th, 2001, 09:32 AM
I guess you can only do such work and take the time and strength to do so much research when you really feel close to a deity.

I just recently discovered my interest in ancient Egyptian religion and history, and am especially interested in Sekhmet, Ra and Hathor, who seem to be very close to one another... :)

Silver Venus
October 29th, 2001, 09:44 AM
I feel really drawn towards Bast at the moment :) Especially because my interest to research both goddesses of cats and cats is growing immensly.
My cat 'Tilly' is so special, she is really trying to communicate and say something to me but I dont know what :crazy: I think its just that she is here and watching over, a guide as such, she is connected to me in some strong way (I know this may sound crazy to some!) ~ I've always dreamt but never thought that I would feel so connected and attuned with an animal before ~ its incredible :D

Avena
October 29th, 2001, 11:19 AM
Ahh lucky girl! Wish I still had a cat...

When I was very young (about 5) we had to little kitties. Unfortunately one of them died very soon whereupon the other ran away and never came back. My, was I sad...

Later I got a big black tomcat whom I had to give away again because of lack of time and small room to keep him.

But in my neighborhood a lot of people keep cats, and sometimes they (the cats) do me the favor and come across when I'm outside ;)

I don't feel drawn to Bast though (yet)... rather to Hathor or Isis, or if feline at all then to Sekhmet...but who knows where my path is leading...

phoenixsong
October 29th, 2001, 03:15 PM
Bast and Sekhmet both fascinate me, as do all kinds of cats. I'm not owned by any cats at the moment though, but in the past lots of gorgeous felines have visited, big black ones, small black and white ones, kittens, ginger cats and scrawny little cats.

Euphoria
November 2nd, 2001, 05:44 PM
Hey thanks all




I'm not owned by any cats at the moment though

thats interesting to say that because i also believe that our cats should choose us .... i personally have never bought a cat as i believet that cats are not objects to be bought or sold

avena i think (dont take what i say as a complete fact it is just an oppinion) but perhaps the fact that u arent having a great deal of luck with ur cats may be a signal that u need to find some sort of connection inside yourself with one of thge cat goddesses

Hope this helps luv charysma

Avena
November 3rd, 2001, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by Euphoria

avena i think (dont take what i say as a complete fact it is just an oppinion) but perhaps the fact that u arent having a great deal of luck with ur cats may be a signal that u need to find some sort of connection inside yourself with one of thge cat goddesses

Hope this helps luv charysma

Hmm, it's kinda weird that I don't feel comfortable with Bast or another feline goddess. I've loved cats all my life although I didn't have much luck with my own kitties. But no matter whom I "contact" (Bast, Sekhmet and Freya so far) they just refuse to show any sympathy. But yeah, maybe it's really some sort of unconscious blockade that prevents me from connecting with something "catlike". :huh:

Euphoria
November 3rd, 2001, 02:57 PM
But no matter whom I "contact" (Bast, Sekhmet and Freya so far) they just refuse to show any sympathy. But yeah, maybe it's really some sort of unconscious blockade that prevents me from connecting with something "catlike".

hmm ... perhaps ...... but i did some thinkin and perhaps you may actually be a "dog person" .... and we all have some knowledge of the cat dog thing perhaps you are more at ease with ..... say

Anubis *
Chontamenti *
Khentimentiu *
Seth *

Xolotl
Hecate *
Ares

I can give you information on deities marked wit stars as i work mainly within the egyptian pantheon but i also had hecate as a patron for a while

Avena
November 3rd, 2001, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Euphoria


hmm ... perhaps ...... but i did some thinkin and perhaps you may actually be a "dog person" .... and we all have some knowledge of the cat dog thing perhaps you are more at ease with ..... say

Anubis *
Chontamenti *
Khentimentiu *
Seth *

Xolotl
Hecate *
Ares

I can give you information on deities marked wit stars as i work mainly within the egyptian pantheon but i also had hecate as a patron for a while

Is Hecate a "dog goddess"? I only know Anubis, Ares, Hecate and Seth, never heard of the other three...But any information would be great!

Euphoria
November 3rd, 2001, 04:59 PM
she isnt actually a "dog goddess" but she is sometimes pictured as having three heads ... one of a dog

crystalmoon
November 19th, 2001, 06:51 AM
BASTET, is the Egyptian goddess of fertility and protection.
Bastet, the Egyptain cat goddes became so popular that it even eclipsed that of Isis.

The Egyptians built a temple to Bastet at BUBASTIS which was set on an island surrounded by water eacept for the entrnce passage.
The shrine was 5000ft long and made of sparkling red granite set within an inner and an outer enclosure.
Bastet is a protective goddess and is always gentle. However, when roused to anger she transforms into the lion goddess SEKHMET.

Bastet is oftendepicted as a cat, or as a cat headed woman, sometimes surrounded by kittens. She also carries a sistrum, a rattle with 4 strings which women used to scare off evil spirits. This is often thought to be the origin of the nursery rhyme, 'HEY DIDDLE DIDDLE, THE CAT AND THE FIDDLE,' the cow jumping over the moon is the cow headed moon goddess HATHOR.

Bastet is also associated with the moon and is therefore a fertility goddess, since the moon governs the menstrual cycle.

Bastet became the focus for the Witch Hunts of the middle ages because of her association with women and the moon.
It was probably Bastets link with cats that led to these animals being persecuted alongside women accused of witchcraft.

Bastet is one of my favourite Egyptian dieties, along with Isis, Osiris, Horus, Anubis Hathor and Maat.
As I am Welsh I am also drawn to many of the Celtic dieties, such as Cerridwen, Arianrhod, Brigid Morgan and Cerrunnos.

Euphoria
December 16th, 2001, 02:22 PM
Bastet is a protective goddess and is always gentle. However, when roused to anger she transforms into the lion goddess SEKHMET.

ok i don't mean to be picky BUT actually bast and sekhmet are two different goddesses ...... Bast was actually a goddess of destruction as well as a protector ....... she holds the Eye of Ra as she was Ra's protector and also his consort of destruction

Xander67
December 16th, 2001, 06:22 PM
:cool: dont mind me , Im just takeing notes here :)

Euphoria
December 21st, 2001, 04:00 PM
no probs xan ....... BAST IS GGGGGRRRREEEEAAAAAAATTT hee hee

Xander67
December 23rd, 2001, 08:51 PM
:)

Chary...


Go not to the elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes

All that is gold soes not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost

Thank you, I needed to see that :)

Xander67
December 23rd, 2001, 08:52 PM
and you are right Bast is a very interesting deity to study :)

Euphoria
December 24th, 2001, 10:27 AM
hee hee ... *bump* lol hee hee i am hypppeeerrr

Cat Goddess
March 13th, 2002, 11:49 AM
euphoria that was excellent .......... Bast is my patron too ... i doubt i could have written something like that

~Kieu~

Demeter
March 13th, 2002, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Cat Goddess
euphoria that was excellent .......... Bast is my patron too ... i doubt i could have written something like that

~Kieu~

Neither did she.

http://www.per-bast.org/bast/

There's also a per-sekhmet site, and probably others related to Egyptian deities, since the real authoress is a priestess in an Egyptian tradition. I thought I had read this before -- I came across it last year when doing research on Bast with an artist who was doing a painting of Her for me.

Mnemosyne
March 13th, 2002, 07:20 PM
Wow! I knew that Bast or Bastet (are these names synonymous?) was the cat goddess of Egypt; however, I learned so much more from reading responses on this thread. I also read up on Bast. I learned that Bast was not associated with the moon. The Greeks began to associate Bast to Artemis, their moon goddess. For that reason, she became known as a moon goddess. Thus, this tidbit can explain CrystalMoon's comment about women being connected with Bast were persecuted in the Middle Ages for witchcraft.

Cat Goddess
March 14th, 2002, 03:13 PM
I wasn't implying that she wrote it .... it tells you at the bottom of her post she never wrote it


PLEASE NOTE: Most of this information is not from my own knowledge and in fact from a site on bast and the rest comes from a multitude of websites which i carelessly forgot to write down... This is not my own work

~Kieu~

Euphoria
April 28th, 2002, 03:43 PM
*bump* for sun angel

Myst
May 6th, 2002, 02:49 AM
Well now you know where you c&p'd it from so you can cite the source yay :)

Incidentally I've heard them thought of as one before as well;
http://inanna.virtualave.net/bastet.html
http://members.tripod.com/~ib205/bastet.html
http://www.templeofbast.com/bast.html

I guess it depends on who ya ask :)

crystalmoon
May 7th, 2002, 02:05 PM
Excuse me if I am being dull here but I always thought that the goddess was one (god also) with many faces, who or what you wish to call her depends on what you want of her at any given time. Justice-Ma'at for example.
Much like ourselves, I am one person but I am daughter, grand-daughter, wife, mother, sister, friend, and under these titles I am also playmate, nursemaid, cook, cleaner, lover, shoulder to cry on ...
Depending on who wants what of me, depends on what role I am in, but I am still one person, with many different faces.

Myst
May 7th, 2002, 03:06 PM
I was thinking that too.

Mnemosyne
May 7th, 2002, 06:55 PM
I really liked that point, Crystalmoon, about how we all have different names. Yep, I can be Mnemosyne, daughter, friend, neighbor etc. Just like us, the gods and goddesses can have different roles. For example, one goddess can be associated with the moon and love. Clearly, there is so much to learn about these dieties.

Mnemosyne
July 5th, 2002, 02:00 PM
:boing: This thread is for you, Atremis, and all the others who love Bast. I know that she has a loving following on this site.