Looking for info on Isis and Thoth

[CleftOfLight]

If anyone can help me I am looking for any type of info on Isis and Thoth from what they look like,what kind of deity they are so on and so forth. Basically I want to know everything.Thank you for your time.

[Khuinaset]

Hey! :D I don't know much about Djehuti(Thoth)* or have any experience with him, but I'm sure argento_occhi will be here eventually and help you lots ;) In the meantime, here's a few links I found:

http://www.philae.nu/akhet/NetjeruT.html
http://www.kemet.org/glossary/djehuty.html
http://t.students.umkc.edu/tardyg/

* - I use the Kemetic spellings of the words, or one of them. The Egyptians only wrote down consonants, so there's many different ways the word could be spelt, but they're almost always rather far off from the Graeco-Roman names.

As for Aset(Isis), is there anything specific you want to know? She's referred to as the Mistress of Heka(ancient Egyptian magic), and is the mother of Heru. As far as I know there's no set image of her, my avatar is part of my favorite image of her that I can post if you'd like. Egyptian art portrayed her with the thrown headdress, sometimes wings, and later on(when Het-Hert[Hathor] and Aset started to get syncretised) with a cow horns headdress or a vulture headdress. These are symbols of her more "motherly" side; as I understand it. The vulture headdress was also shared by Mut, amongst others. On a side note, the "goddess of ten thousand names" epithet is an added Greek one, not an original Kemetic one.

Aset's personality is, to me, very very fierce and protective. The kite(a bird of prey, similar to a hawk) is one of her symbols and it fits very well to me. She won't take any crap from anyone, and I would NOT want to be on her bad side. She's not afraid to give even the people she loves a whack upside the head if they need it(indeed, I doubt she'd give anyone she didn't love a whack upside the head, she'd probably just get exasperated and walk off ;) ). She's nicer if need be, though. If you're really upset or in trouble and not just being self-pitying, she'll help.

Ahh...I can't really think of much else. Try searching for "aset" in this forum, I know there's quite a few threads with lots of info. There's also an Aset vs. Isis thread that has some interesting discussion and yet more info. Some sites to check out:

www.per-aset.org
http://www.philae.nu/akhet/aset.html
http://www.kemet.org/glossary/aset.html

Hope I helped some!

[Ishtara]

Hello CleftOfLight! :)

Djehuti is my patron and, even though I have only been on a Kemetic path since last year, I have been interested in Him since I was a young girl.

He is represented as a baboon- or ibis-headed man, often carrying a calame and papyrus or other attributes of a scribe. In texts, His name is either fully spelled or represented by an ibis.
He is a god of knowledge, learning and eloquence. He is often seen as the patron deity of scribes and the creator of hierogylphs, but there is also another Goddess, Seshat, who is specifically associated with anything having to do with writing.
His consort is Ma'at (balance, justice).
He is the one who records the results of the weighing of the deceased's heart.

On a more personal level, here is how I relate to Him:
Unlike other Names of Netjer, He does not visit me in dreams but I can feel His presence when I turn to Him for help. For instance, a few months ago, I was stuck on a paragraph of Champollion's grammar and He clarified things for me almost imediately after I asked for help.
His presence is usually quiet and serene. He does not say much, but when He does, the message is always clear and helpful.
For offerings, I stuck to writing tools and stationery so far. I do not know His tastes when it comes to edible offerings. One traditional offering was for scribes to pour some ink on the ground.
Depending on how you want to work with Him, it may be useful to know that Djehuty has a strong association with the moon.

I hope this helps, please feel free to ask if you have more questions! :)
Sorry, I am old-fashioned and learn from books, so I do not have links for you. I think you will find more helpful information if you do a search under His Kemetic name as opposed to the Greek one Thoth, though.

[CleftOfLight]

Well I am interested because a reiki teacher I know told me that I have 5 spirits around me and these are the two I knew very little about,but thanks to you all I am learning.

[argento_occhi]

Well, Argent's here now. Let's have fun with Djehuty. Right. I'll just post a few thoughts on this now as my brother wants to use the computer, but I'll get the basics down.

He likes explosions. He likes chemistry. He loves experimenting with anything. But, that might just be because I'm the hemistry science type. He seems to like molecular biology too. I'll add more later. Can't seem to find what I was looking for.

Here's my experiences with Aset and Djehuty. I found what I was looking for.

DJEHUTY
Djehuty’s been the most fun, I have to admit. Despite other claims, He can be a surprising amount of fun, especially when He’s near chemicals. He really enjoyed my chemistry labs. He was almost as bad as our lecturer, wanting to experiment with everything and generally getting very excited. I've never really experienced the quiet side of Djehuty, though every now and then I can hear Him laughing at something I’m reading on any of the forums I go to, and occasionally, He smirks at me. And He keeps telling me to finish my stories. It's no use saying, "But Djehuty, I have to study!" He'll just tell me to keep writing. Hence, I’ve been obsessed with one story since January last year. It's now 150 pages long and it has the makings of a sequel in the works. *shakes head* If He does this during my new course, I'm going to be seriously pissed off. He's never satisfied with my stories. And I’m certain He's responsible for the story that so preoccupied me last year. I suppose I’ve had the least amount of direct experiences with Djehuty, or at least, not the type of experiences I’ve had with Aset and Sebek.

Oh, wait. I forgot one. ABout two months ago, He decided I required a trip to the emergency ward, even though I’m completely healthy. Somebody decided that even though the small pain I had in my chest wasn’t serious, it was best to go anyway, just in case. So mum and I spent three hours there. I had an ECG and some chest x-rays. The doctor pronounced me “disgustingly normal” and sent me home. I’m still not entirely sure why I was supposed to go, but if Djehuti’s satisfied… *looks mystified*

ASET
Aset, on the other hand, feels like a huge power, something beyond a Goddess, if that's possible. She feels so great and so powerful. I get an immense sense of Her magic. She's BIG. That's what first struck me about Her. But, She's also very loving, though not someone you want to get mad. You get the feeling that She has a nasty temper. And now Aset wants some more written about Her. She has healed me many times. She's very patient, but can be impatient if you're not getting what She's trying to tell you. I get that sometimes. Christmas was fun as I spent an awful lot of time contemplating the links between Aset and Mary. Not sure I’ve completely figured it out, nor am i hoping to.

Christmas Eve, I got a metaphysical slap in the face from Aset/Mary about me not going to church anymore. I’ve obeyed. I'm not gonna risk another near fainting, as much fun as it was Christmas Eve. I suppose it started on the 23rd Dec. I woke up with gut cramps, yet again. It wasn't too bad, and I figured it'd go away after a few days or so, as usual. The next day, it was worse. I pressed on anyway, you know, cos it was Christmas Eve and all. It got to about 9-10 pm, and I almost considered not going to Midnight Mass at the Cathedral, but I figured it was just innocent gut cramps and I'd go anyway. It was hot and humid, awful weather to be trapped in a cathedral with so many other people. I usually don't have any problems with the cathedral being so packed, but as the service started, I was beginning to feel awful, like I couldn't breathe properly. It was so hot. My head was feeling light and dizzy. Half an hour into the service, I collapsed, and mum helped me out of the cathedral. Before I pseudo-fainted, I heard a female voice tell me not to go to church again. When we were outside and I had a drink of water, I told mum, "I can't go back in there," but somehow I knew I wasn't just meaning to go and finish the service. I didn't tell mum about the voice though because I knew she wouldn't believe me. I don't know who the voice was. It could've been Aset, but Mary comes to mind. Whoever She was, it was almost a confirmation of what I had suspected: that I'm entering a new phase in my life. It feels weird, but good. My dad's changing jobs, I've turned 21, my mum 50, my brother 18. It's all sorta happening right now. I've taken a new name in honour of this: Khenmetaset. It seems right. It fits. I won't use the others now. Just Khenmetaset, though Satsobekre may turn up every now and then. Now all we have to do is wait and see how this year pans out, hey? Who knows?

And if you always recite Her morning prayer first and one morning in three years you screw up and say Djehuti's first, She'll make you drop your toast, run out of milk and margarine and generally give you a bad day. I'm NEVER making that mistake again. Aset first, then Djehuty, Sebek and Bast. Change it and risk problems. Retrospectively, it wasn't so much a bad day as a bad morning. And I did drop my toast. Smashed into the doorframe into the dining room and sent my toast flying. Managed to hang onto the plate, but I didn't have as much time for breakfast as I had to make another set of toast.

Don't get me wrong, She has Her good aspects and not-so-good aspects. She'll near faint you to get her point across but She means well, and it was really something I needed, because I've been pagan now for nigh on four years and was still occasionally going to church, Evensong, Christmas, Easter, etc. It was time for me to let that path go, and Aset, thanks you, got Her message through loud and clear.

I hope that's helpful. I know someone has a site on Djehuty somewhere, though I can't remember the address. http://t.students.umkc.edu/tardyg/index.html

There. Per Djehuty. And there's per-aset.org as well. Khuinaset's already linked to that, but I mentioned it before I realised she'd posted it.

Argent

[CleftOfLight]

Thank you and wow,They both sound very intense.Well let the fainting beging..lol.But they also sound like a lot of fun too.

[SweetIsTheTruth]

If anyone can help me I am looking for any type of info on Isis and Thoth from what they look like,what kind of deity they are so on and so forth. Basically I want to know everything.Thank you for your time.

Djehuty rocks:

http://t.students.umkc.edu/tardyg/