Astrology and Reincarnation

[Aidron]

An interesting thought occured to me recently. The general consensus is typically that the celestial bodies offer a key to who you are at the time of your birth, a sort of key to who you really are, could be, might have been and so forth.

However, when we speak of things that are true to our souls, things that seem to vibrate within us through and through how many of you can actually find those things within your natal chart, even if you must simplify them? To further clarify, here are two examples:

Unsimplified:

I have libra in my chart five times (more than any other sign as well) and as one might expect balance is the concept and attribute I admire most. It is something that is you can find all around me and inside me. It's at the very core of who I am.

Simplified:

I have pisces ascending, which naturally leads me to be a bit more optimistic (and yet tempered with realism) than most in how I view the world. I don't generally sweat most things and prefer to find the silver lining and have a laugh at them. I translate this into my absolute obsession with Rainbow Brite (no scoffing), the epitome of child-like innocence, joy and happiness. Seems like a bit of a stretch, but simplifying things often can be.

Now, since these things are at the very core of who I am and I personally hold reincarnation as a belief, I cannot help but wonder, are we born with the same natal chart each time? If not, then the aforementioned two examples about me would not be things that are true to my soul, merely further superficialities (for lack of a better euphemism) of this body and incarnation. So, how would you seperate one from the other? I cannot think of any way to do so since these are two core things that resonate with me and are reflected in my natal chart.

Does my soul wait until the cosmos align in such a way each time before I am born again, to accurately reflect who I am? Is it perhaps the only window I have to be incarnated, that I must wait for the heavenly bodies to align in such a way so that I might be born? Could be either or it could be something else entirely. Astrology is not exactly my area of expertiese, but it all made me wonder.

Anyone else ever wondered about this?

[Valkie]

there is a branch of astrology that deals with karma and past lives.

one theory is that your current natal chart clockwise is the depiction of your last incarnation. ie. the cusp of your 12th is your past life's asc. I never quite understood that one. Other clues to past incarnations include Pluto placement, nodal axis, and a few others that I can't quiet remember right now.

The natal chart earmarks evolutions of the soul also, so it would be redundant for the soul to tackle the same lessons over and over again. On a more pratical side... it takes a really really long time for the planets to come across the same pattern, if it is even possible for it to happen.

[Aidron]

there is a branch of astrology that deals with karma and past lives.

one theory is that your current natal chart clockwise is the depiction of your last incarnation. ie. the cusp of your 12th is your past life's asc. I never quite understood that one. Other clues to past incarnations include Pluto placement, nodal axis, and a few others that I can't quiet remember right now.

The natal chart earmarks evolutions of the soul also, so it would be redundant for the soul to tackle the same lessons over and over again. On a more pratical side... it takes a really really long time for the planets to come across the same pattern, if it is even possible for it to happen.


Assuming all or any of that is true, that would then dictate that things which are true to our souls in this life are merely surface details as most things and in all actuality are not accurate reflections of who we are as spiritual beings.

[Valkie]

Assuming all or any of that is true, that would then dictate that things which are true to our souls in this life are merely surface details as most things and in all actuality are not accurate reflections of who we are as spiritual beings.
If you look at just the surface, then yes. What is important to us in this life was probably not important at all in a past life and would probably have less importance in a future life.

Think of it this way. Do you still hold the things that you valued in childhood on the same level of value as you do now? I know that the Tonka truck that I use to play with isn't on the top of my list anymore.

Personally, I can't think of a spirit as a static thing. I would say that the spirit is the very essence of life, the thing that drives us when we can't think of anything else in the world that would move us from our spot. Therefore, it would be everchanging. constantly evolving into something more than what it was before. What else would be the trademark of life than 'things change'?

When dealing with reincarnation, we have several lifetimes to learn and go through that evolution. What we are learning in this lifetime doesn't make what we learned in a past life any less significant, just as what we learn now doesn't make what we learned 10 years ago any less significant.

[Kadynas]

Does my soul wait until the cosmos align in such a way each time before I am born again, to accurately reflect who I am? Is it perhaps the only window I have to be incarnated, that I must wait for the heavenly bodies to align in such a way so that I might be born? Could be either or it could be something else entirely. Astrology is not exactly my area of expertiese, but it all made me wonder.

I tend to think the soul chooses the moment of birth, down to every detail in the chart. I've found astrology to be so accurate that it's hard for me to think otherwise! :)

As far as "windows" go, I think the soul chooses their "optimum" timing, but at the same time goes into it knowing what could happen. The soul knows if he will be early, late or C-section. The soul knows if the body he's thinking of inhabiting belongs to a woman who might choose to abort, or who has a history of miscarriage. I think we're all born exactly when we need to be... in the case of abortion or miscarriage, I think the soul has to go back to the drawing board and find another good time for the particular lessons he wants to learn.

A chart doesn't repeat itself exactly for over 4 million years so I definitely think there's more than one "window" that can be used. Just have to juggle the variables of the chart around a little til they find what they're looking for. :) I think they're more likely to try for another window rather than wait, since I also think we tend to reincarnate in groups and make agreements as to what roles our fellow souls will play in our lives. :)

There's a number of good books on the subject... most recently I read Astrology & Past Lives by Jeanne Avery.

[KEishin]

I also like the Martin Schulmann books on the Nodes and Part of Forrtune. He may be a little "out there" at times, but he really does hit on themes in one's development spiritually.

[FunLilly06]

I really do think that the soul waits until the ACCURATE planets align, in order to reflect who you will be, and what you will do in the life you are born unto. Since Astrology and the Natal Chart is used as a kind of "guide" to help us in our CURRENT life, doesn't it make sense that it ONLY reflect the current life persona? So no, I doubt that we are born with the same chart in every life, because as Valkie says, our "missions" and life purposes change every time we are re-born-so how could the chart be the same? Then it wouldn't be completely accurate, as we've had waay to many lives and personas to ever count!
Some SPECIFIC planets or odd astrological combinations MIGHT relect who you were were in a past life, though...that's just what i think. : )