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Rhianna813
June 8th, 2005, 12:44 PM
I have a new Tarot deck called DruidCraft which was produced by Stephanie and Philip Carr-Gomm of OBOD. Anyway most of the cards follow the standard Rider Waite convention and names but the Temperance card is renamed the Fferyllt. From some research I take this to mean an alchemist of sorts.
Well what is really bugging me is I have no idea how pronounce this card! It's one of my favorites in the deck - truly beautiful! Can anyone help?
Rhianna
Ron
June 8th, 2005, 07:58 PM
It's Middle Welsh....
Ff makes an English litteral F sound.
E makes a Latin e sound, or an English litteral "eh" sound.
R makes a rolled English litteral R sound.
Y, in this case, makes an English litteral "uh" sound.
Ll makes an aspirate English litteral L sound, produced by placing your tounge for a standard L, then blowing out. Llllllllllllllllll
T makes an English litteral T sound.
English Transliteration: Feh-rrr-uh-ll-t(uh)
See attachment.
Ron
June 8th, 2005, 08:02 PM
Fyi... http://druidry.insubstantial.com.au/fferyllt.html (http://druidry.insubstantial.com.au/fferyllt.html)
Sure fferylltiau might have chemist appearances to the litteral reader, but to an archetypal interpretor, it is evident that fferylltiau are a source of the AWEN/IMBAS, or greater wisdom, IMHO.
Rhianna813
June 9th, 2005, 12:03 PM
Ron,
Thank you so much for the detailed response! I wish I could show you the card but I don't have a scanner. Here is a description:
It shows the inside of a thatched roof hut with carvings on the wood beams and perhaps skins and plants hanging from the ceiling. Carvings include a snake eating an egg, man's face, and spirals. There is a broom leaning against the wall and a large bronze cauldron with misty steam rising up our of it. A beautiful woman stands at the cauldron. She wears a blue tunic with a red cloak and gold accents. She has long golden hair, tied back. She reminds my heart of Brighid. She holds a glass container up with her left and pours red liquid from another container into it. The containers glow with magic. There is a large window in the hut and outside is shows a lovely sunny day with a far off lake beside a Hill. There is a rainbow sprouting up from the Hill, across the water, and onto the land.
Artwork for this deck is my Wil Worthington (Druid Animal Oracle). The book that comes with the deck speaks of Awen often but I had not understood what that was. I thought it was a God/Goddess.
Thank you again!
Rhianna
Ron
June 9th, 2005, 03:48 PM
The book that comes with the deck speaks of Awen often but I had not understood what that was. I thought it was a God/Goddess.
My Sister,
I am not sure what your present understanding of the Awen is, although I will refer you to the BDO's understanding for future reference, perhaps? http://www.druidorder.demon.co.uk/awen.htm (http://www.druidorder.demon.co.uk/awen.htm)
In the Service,
rawn, that wished that no one mowed the lawn;
and the boy who likes to copy KellyP. :P
Sonic Seamus
June 11th, 2005, 01:49 PM
I just got this deck as well but have been slightly put off by some of the things written in the first couple of paragraphs. Some of the things described as commonalities between Wicca and Druidry arent.
I must admit though, the artwork of this deck is fascinating and I like it better than that of my the Shape Shifter deck I got so many years ago.
Tranquility
June 14th, 2005, 03:15 PM
In the O.B.O.D practice, Awen is inspiration. In the Bardic Gwersu, we strive to attain Awen and bring it into our daily reality and practice.
Tranquility
June 14th, 2005, 03:16 PM
I too have been having problems with pronunciation, does any know of any great sites to help with this? I will be searching on my own as well.
ShadowDragon999
June 14th, 2005, 05:03 PM
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Ron
June 15th, 2005, 03:50 PM
Bardic Gwersu
I'm sorry, could you refresh my memory, and that of the UW Dictionary? I don't seem to know what Gwersu means. Are you stipulating that OBOD is using a modified word of the Welsh language? Or am I out of date?
I will however note that "gwersu" would appear to have the root "gwers" which is legitimate Welsh for "course; lesson", and which is pluralized by adding "-u" or more commonly "-au". "Gwersu" would appear to be off the wall Welsh.
Is this so? Or am I off the wall? :spinner:
Dave the Druid
June 21st, 2005, 12:01 PM
We just adopted a kitten and named him Meshue, I have found that that is or seems to be an Irish word but I would like to know what it means.
thanks for the help.
odubhain
June 21st, 2005, 07:11 PM
We just adopted a kitten and named him Meshue, I have found that that is or seems to be an Irish word but I would like to know what it means.
thanks for the help.
measchú {.nm.} =
pet dog|
lap-dog
meas\2/ {.nm.} =
<1> fruit of forest tree|
mast|
meas darach, oak-mast|
meas fáibhile, beech-mast|
<2> fruit|
offspring
Cú as in Cú Chulainn.
Dave the Druid
June 22nd, 2005, 08:57 AM
The offspring thing makes sense with reference to the Irish geneology site I was looking at, thanks!
ap Dafydd
June 27th, 2005, 07:56 AM
I'm sorry, could you refresh my memory, and that of the UW Dictionary? I don't seem to know what Gwersu means. Are you stipulating that OBOD is using a modified word of the Welsh language? Or am I out of date?
I will however note that "gwersu" would appear to have the root "gwers" which is legitimate Welsh for "course; lesson", and which is pluralized by adding "-u" or more commonly "-au". "Gwersu" would appear to be off the wall Welsh.
Plural of "gwers" is "gwersi". Welsh doesn't pluralise by adding a u on its own.
"Fferyllt" is the Welsh name for the Roman poet Vergil. It has no mystical meaning over and above that, despite the claims of Douglas Monroe.
gwyn eich byd
Ffred
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