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LadyAutumnCat
June 21st, 2005, 08:29 AM
I'm in shock. This woman should feel guilt for the rest of her life. She destroyed two lives for her own selfish ends. What more does she want, forgiveness too? What kind of a vet did this? And they tell her to get another pet to assuage the guilt? What if she decides she needs to rearrange her house? She just might kill this one too.

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SS'sBaby
June 21st, 2005, 09:47 AM
*shakes head sadly*

You know her fiance' is a dick.
She put them down because of him and he never seemed to give any indication that it was not what he wanted.
And now he is disturbed to have to deal with someone who is grieving and experiencing guilt over their choice.
Does she really want to have children with a person like this?

LadyAutumnCat
June 21st, 2005, 09:49 AM
I would not choose my furry companions over a hairless monkey (human). I wonder if they do have kids, will they just abandon them when they get to be too stressful? The jerks!

LadyTrinity
June 21st, 2005, 09:52 AM
Some vets are so bad. My ex's mother had a litter of kittens put down because one of them peed on her floors. She kept the mommy cat but not her babies. The mom cat looked around for her children and laid down for days gloomy. Mommy cat finally got better after 4-6 days. :wah:
Thats not the sad part... the sad part is the vet put the kittens down. They were in perfect health. I wonder if he asked her why she wanted all 6 of them put to sleep :wah:

LadyAutumnCat
June 21st, 2005, 09:55 AM
WTF ever happened to becoming a vet because you love animals? :whatgives There are plenty of rescue/foster groups that will help with kittens! Hell, we have 51 kittens at the shelter I volunteer at. We don't kill them, we keep them till they are adopted. I think it's due time that there are rules regarding proper companion animal care. People need to learn that it's a life long commitment. Vets should take more responsibility. So freaking pathetic. :goodgrief

Arinya
June 21st, 2005, 10:00 AM
That's really sad. When you get a pet you take on a commitment, sometimes for 10+ years. If you can not accept that you have to include your life, all of it even the stressful times, with an animal then don't get it.
The least she could have done was take them to a rescue shelter or try to find homes for them.
This woman deserves to feel every bit of guilt and does not deserve to ever own another pet.

Catiana
June 21st, 2005, 01:20 PM
I would not choose my furry companions over a hairless monkey (human). I wonder if they do have kids, will they just abandon them when they get to be too stressful? The jerks!


I would choose my furry companions over a human anyday. If some guy said to me, I want you, but not your kitties, he'd be outta there, and I'd be looking for a new guy that would love my kitties as much as I do. Exactly the same way I would be where me children are concerned. I come fully accessorized (kids & cats) and its all or nothing.

SS'sBaby
June 21st, 2005, 06:46 PM
Well in defense of Vets.....meaning the GOOD ones,
my hubby's aunt just had to put one of her dogs down.
The Vet pretty much demanded she do this.
Why?
Because she took a dog that was of a mix of interesting breeds of boston terrier-bull terrier-english terrier to begin with and then decided to MAKE the dog aggressive.
Oh he LOVED her but attempted to kill everything else.
She and I went round and round over this dog.
My attempting to undo the damage was futile as she kept repeating the same mistakes with him over and over again.
And please don't write and tell me how YOU could have saved this dog. :nuhuh:
I have the scars to show he was beyond help. :awwman: :twitch: :wah:

He was born a premie.
That and he suffered mild brain damage from having being resuscitated three times right after birth.
Meaning he suffered severe lack of oxygen a few times while barely more than a few minutes old.
*sighs*
I hate that the dog had to be put down......but I hate even more than this woman made him into what she did.
We couldn't even board the dog anywhere if we went on vacation.
They wouldn't take him.
And no Vet was fond of him.....they kept changing vets with him as each vet would point out that something needed to be done about the dog's behavior.

AND you could not have this dog around children.
EVER!
Or elderly people.
He was horrid.

While I'm saddened, I feel people are much safer with him gone.

I will how ever loudly protest if this woman ever again acquires a dog.

Rarely do Vets DEMAND you have an animal terminated.
But I couldn't blame this guy.
I use him often and he if older man who loves animals.
And pampers my seventeen year old kitty each visit.
And has never suggested I put her down, even when she went through a bad spell with her kidneys and bladder stones just a few years ago.
He tried everything and kept her from being in pain as well.
She is now perfectly healthy and happy for a kitty her age.

Sorry for rambling so much.
I just understand WHY they sometimes demand an animal be put down or why they go ahead and do it.
And I think they look at the owner's sometimes and fear sending the animal back home with them.....much like the mother cat and kitten thing mentioned here.
The vet very well could have lied and said he would and then had an assistant hand feed them and give them away once they were of an age.
I have both seen this and helped a vet do this.

But as for the chow chows being put down.......that was senseless.

halfwaynowhere
June 21st, 2005, 06:54 PM
well, when i become a vet (in 8-10 years), i am attatching myself to a rescue organization. if people can't take care of their pets and want them put down, i would suggest they turn them over to the rescue so they can find a good home. some vets do some crazy things... you can't always do what the owner wants you to do... but anyways, the woman in this case did make a mistake, and she does feel horrible about it, but at least she realizes that it was a mistake and probably won't do it again. the guilt is tormenting her enough. harsh judgements don't help.

Lunacie
June 21st, 2005, 07:25 PM
And they tell her to get another pet to assuage the guilt? What if she decides she needs to rearrange her house? She just might kill this one too.
I find that rather harsh. She realizes she made a mistake and she feels guilty.



You know her fiance' is a dick.
She put them down because of him and he never seemed to give any indication that it was not what he wanted.
And now he is disturbed to have to deal with someone who is grieving and experiencing guilt over their choice.
Does she really want to have children with a person like this?
In reading the letter I didn’t get the impression that the fiancé had any part in making this decision and probably didn't know anything about it until afterwards. Neither did I read that he is disturbed with her, only that she doesn’t feel like the same person she was before and is afraid that she will begin to resent him.



The least she could have done was take them to a rescue shelter or try to find homes for them.
This woman deserves to feel every bit of guilt and does not deserve to ever own another pet.
She may not have realized that there are people who are willing to adopt older animals. I’d guess that most people want a puppy or a kitten, but I don’t know the actual stats.



Geez, I hope the next time you folks make a mistake (and you will) that you find more compassion than you are showing here.

Valnorran
June 21st, 2005, 07:28 PM
I wonder if they do have kids, will they just abandon them when they get to be too stressful? The jerks!
Been known to happen.

I could be wrong, but I think vets are legally required to put down an animal if the onwer says so. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it varies from state to state.

halfwaynowhere
June 21st, 2005, 07:34 PM
Been known to happen.

I could be wrong, but I think vets are legally required to put down an animal if the onwer says so. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it varies from state to state.

i think that may be the case, but i don't see why a vet can't reccomend the pets be turned over to a rescue group instead... then if the owner still insists on the euthanasia, the vet has to comply... i just think an alternative should be offered...

SS'sBaby
June 21st, 2005, 07:57 PM
In reading the letter I didn’t get the impression that the fiancé had any part in making this decision and probably didn't know anything about it until afterwards. Neither did I read that he is disturbed with her, only that she doesn’t feel like the same person she was before and is afraid that she will begin to resent him.

I see your point.
I still feel that he was a party to it in many ways.
Mainly by not being involved in any way what so ever if that is the case.
He had to have known she was making this decesion for him...for them...etc.

Arinya
June 21st, 2005, 10:29 PM
Geez, I hope the next time you folks make a mistake (and you will) that you find more compassion than you are showing here.

Oh, I know I'll make mistakes. However there's a big difference between just making a mistake and murdering another living being.

Lunacie
June 21st, 2005, 11:14 PM
I see your point.
I still feel that he was a party to it in many ways.
Mainly by not being involved in any way what so ever if that is the case.
He had to have known she was making this decesion for him...for them...etc.

Hmmm, I don't know. I haven't talked to either of them. I don't know whether he was included in the decision, but they were her dogs so the final decision was hers I think.

Lunacie
June 21st, 2005, 11:24 PM
Oh, I know I'll make mistakes. However there's a big difference between just making a mistake and murdering another living being.

Is it murder to have a dog put down if the only other choice seems to be for the dog to suffer? That's what she thought the choice was at the time. I wonder if the vet suggested any other options to her?

Black-mage
June 22nd, 2005, 02:21 AM
that just...Grrr! i cant explain how frustrated reading that made me feel! :flamer:

Arcane Kitty
June 22nd, 2005, 03:11 AM
I can see both sides here... it was wrong (and maybe selfish) of her to put the dogs down for her own happiness. But as someone stated before, maybe she thought at that particular moment in time, that was what would be best for them. Maybe she didnt know all of her options? If the vet did not tell her other alternatives that she had, then shame on that vet.

We all live, we all learn. It happened once with this lady, at least she knows where she stands on the issue should it be presented before her again... not knowing one's exact situation kinda makes it hard for me to have a one sided opinion. =/

LadyAutumnCat
June 22nd, 2005, 10:57 AM
Coming from a rescue background and seeing everything that I have seen, I wouldn't adopt another animal out to her. I'm not one to pass harsh judgments as I'm very open-minded, but I've seen too many animals suffer because of what their owners have opted to do. Humane euthanasia is necessary under certain circumstances, imo, it is not a way to get rid of two companions. I'm glad she understands the mistake she made. Do I think she is ready for another animal? No. I would not adopt any of the animals in the shelter I volunteer out to her and neither would the directors. If anything, she should start out volunteering at a shelter where the animals are there without a 100% commitment. If what I said seems harsh, I'm sorry, but when you see the abuses on a daily basis, run around picking up animals off the streets, and have to rehabilitate abused animals, it does get to you. My ability to forgive people who have done harm to animals is very slim.

enchancea
June 23rd, 2005, 05:37 AM
It was pretty stupid of her to do that and I hope she feels bad about it for the rest of her life, she could have just turned them over to maybe be adopted out if they werent that mean. I know I would never give up any of my animals for anyone. They are everything to me.