In a word

[The Festival Spirit]

The following quote can be found in this thread, > Here < (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=94220&page=1&pp=40)

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean different things."

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's all."

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. "They've a temper, some of them--particularly verbs, they're the proudest--adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs--however, I can manage the whole lot! Impenetrability! That's what I say!"

"Would you tell me, please," said Alice, "what that means ?"

"Now you talk like a reasonable child," said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. "I meant by "impenetrability' that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you meant to do next, as I suppose you don't intend to stop here all the rest of your life."

"That's a great deal to make one word mean," Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

"When I make a word do a lot of work like that," said Humpty Dumpty, "I always pay it extra."

"Oh!" said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.

"Ah, you should see 'em come round me of a Saturday night," Humpty Dumpty went on, wagging his head gravely from side to side: "for to get their wages, you know." [/COLOR]

:braindrai, skilly-nilly

If I am about to have a 'deep' conversation with someone, I would try to define certain words beforehand, I will say what the word means in my experience and ask the other person if that fits into their definition of the particular word, if they agree, all is fine, if they want to add to my definition and we both agree that is fine, if we don't agree I will try to help them see that my definition as discussed previously is what I mean when I say the word, not what they think I mean when they hear the word and translate it to their own definition. I am always happy to accept their definition of the word if it is true and does not oppose what I mean when I say the word. If it does oppose what I mean, and it's true I would probably point out that that is not what I mean when I say the word

An example using the word....... Understand.


If I was to say "I understand war", I mean that I am aware of war, I accept that war exists and I believe war exists, I understand war, I can visualise war, but I personally choose not make war real, thats down to others.

I understand that some people will want to make war for lots of different reasons, some will want to make war for fear of their lives, some will make war to better their lives, whether it's right or wrong, some will make war because they can, some will make war because their cause is just, in their minds, some will make war because they are greedy, war can be physical and mental, war can be survival, war can be awful, war can be dirty, war can be horrific and gory, war can be beautiful, (metaphorically)

I understand war, I don't agree with it or take part in it. I understand the man who wages war in self defence, I understand the man who wages war for greed, etc,

I feel that I am helpless when the earth and its occupants suffer from war, I understand war but I don't agree with it, if it was up to me the world would be without war. I understand why war is continuing when one person says I don't like that he commited an act of war against me so I will commit an act of war against him.

I understand how one word can mean so much more than just the word that is written or said, I understand that someone elses understanding of a particular word may be different than mine, if you read my signature, you may see how I understand things, I wonder if other peoples understanding of me and what I say will rest on whether they read this or not, I'm sure some people will not understand this, thats fine by me.

My path has been taking me by people who understand me a lot in the last 10 days or so, that has given me a new excitement and zest for life I have not felt before and I understand that my path will take me by people that don't understand me, I look forward to that more now than I ever have.

(sometimes I take so long writing stuff I forget why I started,)
words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited,

One of the reasons I stayed here is because people use words I understand, I quickly realised that there are a lot of pagan words I haven't yet come across and my understanding of them is just beginning, any help on this subject would be most appreciated, it may take me a long time to understand all the words associated with these subjects and so I wish to ask for pointers to where I can learn the words and phrases that people here will understand without me having to write many words to say just one.

If you don't understand this, please think about it before you rip into me ;)

[Twig]

words are so important to me, they are my main means of communication, they are the tools I use to make sense of how I think, how I feel, the language I think in is incredibly important, I am on this site because I want to understand what happens to me, this is the first and only site like this that I have visited...

Greetings Festival Spirit. I for one want to thank you, not rip you for your comments. You have unwittingly hit upon a great topic and something I am a stout beliver in.

The Power of Words.

Attention "teachers" both current and would be. There is great wisdom in these words and hints on how to have a better rapport with your student(s) and make lessons progress better.

Simplifyig your lessons vocabulary can make a lesson easier for them and stop a lot of frustration. To use the last sentance as an example I can save breath and make that line infinately easier to digest if I said "Dumbing down the lesson makes it go quicker." Its not pretty and doesn't make you look any more "important" but if you are just trying to look good or impress them you are wasting both parties time!

From the start I have always tried to tailor my responses to the question asked. "Simplicity fosters increased learning!". I can't say that enough.

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

[lednevir]

what words do you want to understand?

[The Festival Spirit]

Greetings Festival Spirit. I for one want to thank you, not rip you for your comments. You have unwittingly hit upon a great topic and something I am a stout beliver in.

The Power of Words.

Attention "teachers" both current and would be. There is great wisdom in these words and hints on how to have a better rapport with your student(s) and make lessons progress better.

Simplifyig your lessons vocabulary can make a lesson easier for them and stop a lot of frustration. To use the last sentance as an example I can save breath and make that line infinately easier to digest if I said "Dumbing down the lesson makes it go quicker." Its not pretty and doesn't make you look any more "important" but if you are just trying to look good or impress them you are wasting both parties time!

From the start I have always tried to tailor my responses to the question asked. "Simplicity fosters increased learning!". I can't say that enough.

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

Greetings and thanks very much to you, Twig,

My journey so far (or should that be path), has taught me that I seem to have a more precise understanding of the language we use, (English English is my only (spoken) language) so many people I talk to, unfortunately, have a habit of putting their opinion into what I say, eg they decide that I have said something other than what I have said, (I'm sure this is not just pedants) like if I was to say "I understand war" so many people immediately say I am a war monger, that is their interpretation of what I said, I understand that, but as you say Twig, it wastes time, so much precious time that could be put to better use, I am aware of the power of words and lately I did realise that the power of my words is great, (I am talking about two specific things that have happened to me very recently) I am not saying I wield power but I am so aware of the Power of Words, and that I have the ability to motivate thousands of people with just a few words.

In one sense I would like to move away from people that don't understand my words as they are meant, but that would mean I would not be able to carry on the things I enjoy most in life, I do not expect (I expect nothing, I hope) to be able to find any quick solutions to this problem, I feel it has been and will be a life's work, but I am prepared for that, but I do feel that I should surround myself with pagans, because they will have a better understanding of me and my words so that I don't waste any more time unnecassarily. feel it will enable me to 'get through' (their own interpretations) to those who are unaware of what I am really saying. Not that I am saying I must get through to them, but that I will be able to should the moment arise.

I have only just realised I may be a pagan! and there is so much more to it than that, Twig, You have unwittingly hit upon the key to my future, I feel, that I am in a place where people understand me and in turn and mutually that we will understand each other better as time moves on. Thanks again friend and I hope we shall exchange views again.


One of the reasons I stayed here is because people use words I understand, I quickly realised that there are a lot of pagan words I haven't yet come across and my understanding of them is just beginning, any help on this subject would be most appreciated, it may take me a long time to understand all the words associated with these subjects and so I wish to ask for pointers to where I can learn the words and phrases that people here will understand without me having to write many words to say just one.

[The Festival Spirit]

what words do you want to understand?


One of the reasons I stayed here is because people use words I understand, I quickly realised that there are a lot of pagan words I haven't yet come across and my understanding of them is just beginning, any help on this subject would be most appreciated, it may take me a long time to understand all the words associated with these subjects and so I wish to ask for pointers to where I can learn the words and phrases that people here will understand without me having to write many words to say just one.



OK I am looking for greetings first of all, so far I am am aware of, Merry Meet and Blessed Be Both of these are almost self explanatory but I want full understanding, I will use one of them at the end of this post but that doesn't mean I know and understand it. I know this sounds so simple to the initiated, but I'm sure people will see the worth in this, if there are other references to it on this site, I'd love a link, I would love to hear other peoples interpretations of these and other greetings I am unaware of (If I was aware of them I would name them) and a link to a reputable pagan dictionary would be excellent, I could search google, I know, but I am more interested in things that people recommend, it has the personal touch, in fact I might start a whole new thread asking, "Which Pagan dictionary if any do you recommend if one exists!"


Imbas is the first word I found to question, I found it in a thread and that went a little way to help me understand it, but I know I don't fully grasp it all yet,

Mighty Oak trees, from tiny acorns grow.

I have said elsewhere, "I am aware of the power of words and lately I did realise that the power of my words is great, (I am talking about two specific things that have happened to me very recently) I am not saying I wield power but I am so aware of the Power of Words, and that I have the ability to motivate thousands of people with just a few words."

If I was to go to Africa and/or India, for instance, and nobody there spoke English, I would no doubt find it difficult at first, but I am sure that as time goes on and with a lot of patience from all parties, I would get by and make use of the things I would require by using sign language, I am deaf (90+% deaf) and that comes naturally to me, but I have not Studied British sign language much or any other countries, as, like speech different areas have different interpretations and inflections.

Now Imagine I have just taken a journey to the Island of Pagan, and you are my guide, you speak my language and the language of Pagan, which words do you relate to me first to allow me to communicate with the Pagans? As an individual I would ask for Greetings first of all, Hello and goodbye, I hope you are well, Regards to your family and friends, good luck, safe journey etc and then simple things that say so much about people, like, me, you, please and thank you, yes and no, I'm happy, I'm sad, can I help you, etc.

As you are explaining those things to me, other words and phrases will crop up and we would have a wonderful time communicating new things and old in different languages, as I am eagerly learning I will try my best to reflect (?) the words you say to me, to ask your judgement of whether I have a full understanding and hopefully you will correct me in a way I can understand, and then we would eat and be merry to celebrate my new friend and language. :)

Thanks for your question and time ;)

Blessed Be

[skilly-nilly]

OK I am looking for greetings first of all, so far I am am aware of, Merry Meet and Blessed Be


Imbas is the first word I found to question, I found it in a thread and that went a little way to help me understand it, but I know I don't fully grasp it all yet


Now Imagine I have just taken a journey to the Island of Pagan, and you are my guide, you speak my language and the language of Pagan, which words do you relate to me first to allow me to communicate with the Pagans? As an individual I would ask for Greetings first of all, Hello and goodbye, I hope you are well, Regards to your family and friends, good luck, safe journey etc and then simple things that say so much about people, like, me, you, please and thank you, yes and no, I'm happy, I'm sad, can I help you, etc.


Thanks for your question and time ;)

Blessed Be

I finally got back a working modem today; after more than a month of me calling up the mechanical voices and getting put on ignore time after time. I was reading to catch up, and I read through your posts. :hahugh:

I found that as I went about the day doing chores and errands (it's my day off) I was thinking about your posts. They're good ones, imo.

On the one hand, I agree that understanding the terms is key to interesting and enlightening discussions. I also am fluent in merely English, and I have too much other necessary language work (something I am not at all gifted in) to ever anticipate that there'll be a time when I can learn a Gaelic Language. So I think that English-speaking people should converse in English, when possible, and be freely and happily ready to translate and discuss the meanings of unusual or incomprehensible terms, words, concepts......without snarkiness. And without More-Celtic-then-Thou Snobbery (a class I call McTats).

On the other hand, there are untranslatable ideations, surely. Imbas being one. As I see it, it is the fufillment of the God/s/dess/desses acting on or communicating with someone and the causality of the creative process by that Communication. Also the state of being when the Communication is in progress. Also the understanding of Otherness that is Communicated and thus understood. YMMV, just my opinion of course.
In using an untranslatable word, I feel it is imperative to freely discuss that word, and to allow other translations to be held by others.

On the gripping hand, I think that a lot of the pointless sniping I mean discussion is about translations. And using words as exclusionary devices.

Because I also think 'Druid' is one of those words that Humpty-Dumpty was talking about....it means just what the speaker wants it to mean. Always. To the exclusion of what the other speaker wants it to mean.

I believe in 'What Is'. If the trees Sing, then they do. Is the person the trees are Singing to therefore a Druid? Beats me :twitch:

If the Deity/ies communicating with one are those of the several Celtic nations, is the communicatee a Druid? Who gets to decide :whistle:

What I think is that all of the Druids died out with the advent of the Catholic Church thousands of years ago, and that what is preserved of them is preserved in the folklore and folkways of the cultures they were once in. Accessible to anyone who studies it. And listens to the Trees.

:yikess: , skilly-nilly

[odubhain]

What I think is that all of the Druids died out with the advent of the Catholic Church thousands of years ago, and that what is preserved of them is preserved in the folklore and folkways of the cultures they were once in. Accessible to anyone who studies it. And listens to the Trees.

:yikess: , skilly-nillyI don't think the Druids died out. They continued as the Filidh and the Brehons in Ireland for another 1000 years. As individuals, they were reborn many times since then. Their traditions, tales and teachings are still there to be learned. One of those ways is from the trees as you've said but that is only a part of what they left for others to learn. There's an entire universe of things to learn that the Druids left to us and much more besides that. Words have a power as do names. I don't think that redefining words or names really works unless there is truth in that action. If "Druid" truly means what a person defines it to be then there's not a problem but all too often, nowadays, what is being defined is an illusion or a fantasy.

Searles

[Dawa Lhamo]

OK I am looking for greetings first of all, so far I am am aware of, Merry Meet and Blessed Be Both of these are almost self explanatory but I want full understanding, I will use one of them at the end of this post but that doesn't mean I know and understand it. Well, I can help you a little with these. Merry Meet is a reference to a longer phrase: Merry Meet, Merry Part, and Merry Meet again! Basically, it means that "I meet you in joy, I depart in joy, and I will meet you with joy again"... It is sort of a blessing for happiness upon the meeting. You may find people saying "Merry Part" in closing, as well. I am unsure of the particular origins of this, but it is similar to the "Well met" that you might find in anachronistic groups ... There's a song that is often sung at the end of a ritual to open the circle that goes:
May the circle be open, but unbroken
May the Love of the Goddess be ever in your heart
Merry Meet, and Merry Part, and Merry Meet again!
So it also carries the connotation of meeting together for religious/magical reasons, though this is really a small part of its general usage... Merry meet is pretty unique to the pagan community.

For Blessed Be, it's just a blessing. Switch it around and it's "be blessed". It may refer to some poetic work which I am unaware of. It is pretty unique to the pagan community, as well, so if someone blesses you with "blessed be" then it is also something of an assurance that the person saying it is pagan or open to paganism. ^_^

You may also see "Bright Blessings", which is simply what it says.

Basically, they're just conventional greetings with a somewhat pagan association.

CAW (Church of All Worlds) folks might greet you with "Thou Art God(dess)" which has a somewhat deeper meaning than the above, indicating that the speaker recognizes the divine in you, very much like the Sanskrit greeting "Namaste"...

Ceremonial magicians also have their own greetings, usually "Love is the Law" or a number... 93, I think? which have symbolic and religious significance that I'm inadequate at explaining... ^_^

And also, new visitor to this strange Pagan-speaking island, one of the first and most consistent problems is what does paganism/neo-paganism mean, how does this relate to witchcraft, etc. I'd recommend our own Isaac Bonewit's www.neopagan.net (www.neopagan.net) for help with these terms (see the sitemap and locate "Defining Paganism" "Classifying Witchcraft" and "A Pagan Glossary" as well as anything else of interest). He isn't universally agreed-with (good luck finding a pagan who is) but he'll get you the basic ideas about what words to use when. ^_^ (There's also the problem of old conventions vs. new conventions--esp. with Wicca vs. Witchcraft--that you're bound to run into...)

Anyway, you've made some great posts so far. More questions, please?

Tashi delek!
Dawa Lhamo

(For interest, "tashi delek" is Tibetan--you'll also see it in Bhutanese, a Sino-Tibetan language itself--that roughly translates: "may auspicious good-fortune find you" and is used as a greeting, closing, and, of course, good luck in the Tibetan language. --you may see it translated as "cheers" which I think is a bad translation-- As far as I'm aware, I'm the only person on MW who uses it, though you'll see it rather often in Tibetan Buddhist circles.)

Very clever, by the way, posting about words in the Druids subforum... ^_^ I don't know that I've met more eloquent word-smiths... ^_^

[blackroseivy]

I do fully agree that there was at least an inkling of continuity to the practice of Druidry. They continued along until about the 16th-17th centuries as bards - the greatest one we are familiar with is O'Carolan, the blind harpist of Ireland, working in the late 17th c. They didn't function in quite the same ways later on, but there was still a trace of their workings. O'Carolan is known as "the last of the Irish bards" - the musical kind, I'm sorry, I'm not sure of the distinction between classes, but I'm pretty sure that that's what I have heard. He is a source of a great deal of national pride in Ireland.

The paper I am working on for Bandarach College is all about the continuity through the centuries leading up to the revival of the 18th, which of course had many, many flaws but at least did attempt a revival of the philosophies of the ancients.

I have a fascinating collection of music which is on the Dorian label, entitled "2 Worlds of the Welsh Harp". This recording has on it a small fragment of the music from the Robert ap Huw manuscript, which is medieval in content, & is written in a binary, rather than contrapuntal, structure. This structure is very ancient indeed, & its basics may very well be prehistoric in origin. It has more in common with the ancient Greek music I also have - also on the Dorian label - that uses sharps & flats instead of whole notes. The modern concept of Celtic music still shows a similar AA-BB-AA-CC (roughly) repeat pattern. My 2c about the word "Druid".

I like looking for traces of the ancient in what we know today! ;)

[wolfchild]

I have to say I find it quite interesting that those most eloquent with words are also those who speak tham least.
I do not have a grand vocabulary, and I hope I communicate in a manner to which people understand me as I understand myself. Often I'm not even sure the words I use mean what I think they mean ;).
I do know I would never fault those who understand differently than I do, being in the great bubble of LDS control, I am misunderstood more often than not (oh well).
When I first came to this site I was searching for which type of wood to use to make my wand out of for my intermediate magic classes, when I found the Druid part, I was immediatley enthralled.
I do not know what Imbas is, but I know that when I expand knowledge (and vocabulary) I feel better (this is all encompassing).

I have the greatest respect for you Festival Spirit, for being strong enough to ask questions. I must also add that Twig, you are just awesome :)

[Ladyvi]

words.... often times simply are not adequat.. even to those that have large vocabularies. words start becoming.. not enough. still you attempt to word things in a cohesive fashion and what appeared simple ends up being a 50 chapter book of a detailed description.

[Dave the Druid]

Simplicity lends itself to clarity although precision can be lost by more simplistic renderings.

[odubhain]

words.... often times simply are not adequat.. even to those that have large vocabularies. words start becoming.. not enough. still you attempt to word things in a cohesive fashion and what appeared simple ends up being a 50 chapter book of a detailed description.Images and actions often evoke better communication and responses than words. Its amazing however that air moved by one's lips can create a response or a result at all when one considers how little work is actually physically done by a word alone (in moving air). It is the response to words, images and actions that seems to hold the power and not the stimulus. To that end, it is the choices made for their approprate responses that seems more important than to have possession of a myriad of words, images and possible actions.

Searles

[wolfchild]

Images and actions often evoke better communication and responses than words. Its amazing however that air moved by one's lips can create a response or a result at all when one considers how little work is actually physically done by a word alone (in moving air). It is the response to words, images and actions that seems to hold the power and not the stimulus. To that end, it is the choices made for their approprate responses that seems more important than to have possession of a myriad of words, images and possible actions.

Searles

Could this be why thw written word seems more powerful than the spoken word?

:hmmmmm:

[odubhain]

Could this be why thw written word seems more powerful than the spoken word?

:hmmmmm:In today's world of short memories and ADD, the written word has a chance to survive and be multiplied to effect where the spoken word fades over the square of the distance from the speaker. For a spoken word to have its greatest effect, it must be empowered by spirit. Multimedia seems to amplify only the audio and visual parts of the spectrum while the spiritual goes off into the ether, lost in a vacuum of chests without hearts.

I'm in a morose mood today as the Volgons plough over Tara:

http://www.hilloftara.info/

Searles

[Ladyvi]

~~ smiles slightly~~

the actions or better yet the reactions of individuals determine wether they are a human "sentient' being. or just another beast in the field.

the will lends power. the word lends conveyance. the destination a harbor. deny the harbor.. what is there to react to.

[wolfchild]

~~ smiles slightly~~

the actions or better yet the reactions of individuals determine wether they are a human "sentient' being. or just another beast in the field.

the will lends power. the word lends conveyance. the destination a harbor. deny the harbor.. what is there to react to.
Very well put Ladyvi, and I have to say, some human reactions can prove to be more primative than animmal reactions. Take my ex-husband for example, his reaction to everything is to be the one in control, in charge at all times, no matter the cost...somewhere along the way, the cheast did become and empty vaccuum :(

[Myrddyn Emrys]

In today's world of short memories and ADD, the written word has a chance to survive and be multiplied to effect where the spoken word fades over the square of the distance from the speaker. For a spoken word to have its greatest effect, it must be empowered by spirit. Multimedia seems to amplify only the audio and visual parts of the spectrum while the spiritual goes off into the ether, lost in a vacuum of chests without hearts.

I'm in a morose mood today as the Volgons plough over Tara:

http://www.hilloftara.info/

Searles

"...lost in a vacuum of chests without hearts."

Morose mood or not, I think you've hit on the very basis behind the problem, actually many of the problems.

[odubhain]

"...lost in a vacuum of chests without hearts."

Morose mood or not, I think you've hit on the very basis behind the problem, actually many of the problems.The heart knowledge is where the Druids saw the mind as having a home. The know of the head was considered to be a different sort of knowledge that led one to Otherworlds and states of being. The heart knowledge was at the center of life and insight. I personally see it as having the nature of sea and wind and being governed by the Moon with fire as the unifying bond for all.

"Oz never game nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't already have." One has to work mightily to have no heart but that seems to be a skill that is being taught more and more in modern life.

I guess I could say that a TV is not a hearth to really place the focus where the change has occurred.

Searles

[Ladyvi]

your right. TV's have become the babysitters and what folks look to for solace and comradery. folks have forgotten what it is to be a village. the village raises the child.

[wolfchild]

your right. TV's have become the babysitters and what folks look to for solace and comradery. folks have forgotten what it is to be a village. the village raises the child.
The first time I was told it takes a village to raise a child, I scoffed, playing the single mom role my first though was "what happened to taking responsability for your own children?" then I quickly learned the need more than just a parent or they will end up as insane as the parent. I have to agree it does take a full village to raise the child, TV has sadly taken the village space, but one also wonders, how much does the child understand of what they see on tv? There is no way to verify they understood what was meant, there is no chance for them to say "do you mean you approve of war if you say you understand it, or do you just acknowledge it exists no matter how wrong? That is one of the MAJOR problems today.

[The Festival Spirit]

Very clever, by the way, posting about words in the Druids subforum... ^_^ I don't know that I've met more eloquent word-smiths... ^_^

Thank you and my apologies for only quoting this small portion of your words.

I must admit at this stage that I was posting 'blind' and I did notice almost immediately, and considered my action, In the end I thought it should stay where it was and that maybe it was meant to be. I was happy with the way it appeared where it did and it seemed fitting, I hope that was not too presumptious, it reflected my thoughts and inspirations from what I had read without realising which forum I was in.

[wolfchild]

Discussions of language, understanding, and education are most certainly welcome here IMO.
After all, if the persuit of knowledge to a Druid is never ending, than the acceptance of an opportunity to expand ones understanding of another should also be never ending. :shift:

[The Festival Spirit]

:idea: Discussions of language, understanding, and education are most certainly welcome here IMO.
After all, if the persuit of knowledge to a Druid is never ending, than the acceptance of an opportunity to expand ones understanding of another should also be never ending. :shift:

Hi there,

Sometimes I get in a situation where the new understanding I am experiencing is all encompassing, it seems that the circumstances are all new yet feel so familiar, revealing first time sensations of achievemnet or fulfillment from brand new ideas and successes, the understanding and completeness can often overwhelm if caught unawares, a moment of clarity can bring a plethora of new avenues or perhaps conclusions.

The visual ideas and objects too numerous to grasp, immediately, but etched into memory, and moments, weeks, or months later, unfurl and correlate, allowing another, more recent understanding, as valuable as the first, if not more so.

An evolution of comprehension is ticking away, ticking to, similar to cogs in a clock, each pair of cogs linking together, click, many cogs clicking together, many making one, one cycle or one circle? one, from many angles is still one, one understanding of one thing, one understanding often feels like another understanding, the feeling is the same or similar.

Understanding feels true, you will know that feeling perhaps, inevitably? I hope so, It is possible that understanding could be the key, to? the truth? the one truth? Many truths making one? If it is not the key, it will serve you well in the absence of all other things, be true, and if your truenesss is seen from many angles, be assured its true. And that it is in you,


Written over several hours meditation. Friday 16th - Saturday 17th Sept 2005.

I'm not sure I set out to write that, it was just the flow, I'm not normally that outspoken (I think), another cog clicking into place and adding to me, this thing surprises me still, I have a feeling that this is only half of the story, but I know not, yet, when it will come full circle.


having posted this i saw the similar threads and after reading and following a merry path I came up with this one, http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=13424&page=1&pp=40 (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=13424&page=1&pp=40)

I find much wisdom there and similar questions to ones I would ask.